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"I can do things which don't praise your queen, and which match lots of other books, but I can't actually perfectly assess truth." That said, she can have a copy of Severing Geryon's Tongue: On the Infernal Lies of Cheliax, and their Refuations, by "an Aspirant to the Windswept Lea".

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And what does this book think the infernal lies of Cheliax are?

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The table of contents may be suggestive?

  1. Hell is Not Inevitable
    1. Most Souls are Not Condemned
    2. No Thrune can Sell your Soul
    3. Aroden's Killer Remains Unknown
  2. It is Wise to Turn Away from Evil
    1. The Power of the Heavens
    2. Very Few Rule in Hell
    3. Turning Away from Evil
  3. The Petty Lies of Cheliax
    1. A Brief Chelish History
    2. Recent History of Galt and Andoran
    3. A Sampling of Other Lies
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Blink blink blink. "—Who else could have killed Aroden?"

That's not the most important thing on the list but it might be the most confusing!

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"There's a lot of claims about that. He put too much of his power into the Starstone and the ascension of so many through it drained him. Gozreh killed him so she could open the Eye of Abendego. He stole from the First Vault and Abadar unmade him accordingly. He spent all his power to prevent the end of all life on a distant planet. I don't actually know what killed your Aroden, there isn't a lot of consensus in the records."

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"...My Aroden?"

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"There are multiple worlds known as Golarion with associated Arodens. It's a big multiverse."

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"I think I'm confused." She glances at the plant-person.

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"I'm not sure I should say that some things are just intrinsically confusing, but this is the kind of subject that makes me very tempted."

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"Fair enough."

Flip flip flip. She knew most people weren't damned, they checked Korva. She flips past the whole section on "turning away from Evil." What does the section called "A Sampling of Other Lies" say?

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Composure while risking torture is not that valuable a skill in most professions in most countries. It is possible to call and trade with inevitables. The many dead of the Blackridge Academy class of 4705 in fact managed to escape Hell, if only because their killer summoned a daemon which ate the victims' souls. (You should not summon a daemon to eat people's souls. If you're reading this book and tempted, you should talk to a holy priest. If necessary, the Final Blade is not evil.) Taldor is doing badly but not as badly as the Thrunes say. It is not rare for women and men to both enjoy sex, if the man is considerate. Osirion does not feed failed seminary students to crocodiles.

The author continues in this vein for a while. One gets the feeling that this is a bit of a dumping-ground for claims which did not fit in the rest of the book.

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It's not rare for women — huh. That explains some things.

She reads for a little while. Eventually she looks up at the plant-person. "Apparently there are things in the Dark Tapestry that are trying to do that but there's a lot of disagreement on how exactly they work, this book isn't sure. But if other worlds don't have any places like that maybe they wouldn't need gods to stop them from getting crushed."

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"Dark Tapestry?"

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"It's — uh, someone I know back home explained it but I don't know if I understood it all — it's like a place way out at the end of Creation that twists up anything that goes there. Shelyn's brother went there and got twisted around and now he's a god of torture."

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"Huh."

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"Descriptions make it sound somewhat analogous to the Far Realms."

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"Makes sense. I think there are lots of humans in worlds where the biggest threats from faraway places are that a big rock might hit their planet or a star might explode."

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"I think the gods could definitely protect people from a big rock or a star, that sounds way easier than a lot of the other things they're stopping," says Victòria, who knows nothing about the history of the Starstone or the size of stars. "Uh, I forgot what we were talking about before, do you remember?"

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"Well, I think sometimes the stars just don't explode much. Anyway, we were comparing what deities we were familiar with."

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"Right. Uh, I could list all the gods I've ever heard of if you want? Most of them are going to be Evil, though."

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"I'm kind of curious but I can ask Bar myself if you don't want to talk, assuming people mostly write about gods that exist. If you'd like time to read I'm certainly not in a hurry. – Usually time in your world is paused when you're in Milliways."

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"Is there a limit to how long I'm allowed to stay here?"

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"Your budget, assuming you eat food or care about privacy at all. Food after the first drink isn't free and renting a room isn't either. If you get a job cleaning you can get a room with it. If you can do medical or security work you can get room and board and then stay indefinitely. If you age you'll still die of that, though."

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But as long as she stays here, nothing bad can happen to Valia or Alicia or Raimon.

"I could probably do a little medical work or maybe a little security work, but I'm only first circle. I guess I could also clean but I wasn't smart enough to go to wizard school, I don't know if the boss here would still hire me."

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"Circles aren't everything, how much medical experience do you have? And I've seen other people here cleaning with brooms and mops. I think Bar hands them out, like she does with bandages if you work at the infirmary. Does the place you're from have so many wizards the average cleaner has prestidigitation?"

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