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In favor; it makes it more likely the other law passes, which is bad, but she's pretty sure it'll pass anyway. She'll vote against it when the time comes though.

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In favor. The man said it would be possible anyway but she doesn't really believe him and in any case having to talk around a problem whenever you're not in a committee is really limiting.

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Against. He'll vote to pass the bill even if this rider gets added but hopefully it doesn't come to that.

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As far as she can tell, the extra part is mainly supported by whores, bandits, and lawyers. And a Thrune, which is almost as bad. Against. (In favor of the main law.)

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Abstain. It's safer not to vote against his lord's suggestion but he can't bring himself to approve.

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Against the slander law, in favor of the rider. Justice does not come to the defense of the - whole lot of people actually - and this is a blunt instrument.

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Wow! You can make people stop being mean to each other even with words with the power of law. It is very ambitious. Kicharchu would not advance such a proposal at his own kobold-centric convention. But tallfolk have many things that sewerfolk do not and this can be one of them. In favor. And if we are preventing people from being mean obviously it should not be specially excepted to be mean in true ways.

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For the amendment, and for the amended law. 

Speaking only truth is a common Law, it makes sense they would go for it. The public vs private distinction is confusing (why was the convention ruled private??) but the proposed law will still be much simpler and more obvious with this amendment. Without it, it's just a law about Not Saying Things Someone Doesn't Wants You To Say.

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Obviously many true things can nonetheless be damaging, but... it still matters, matters overwhelmingly, if things are true. Jaume would like to build a world where everyone understands that it matters if things are true.

In favor of the law and the rider.

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Not worth fighting for, he confirms, mildly but not strongly in favor.

(And he votes in favor of the amendment. He guesses.)

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Yeah, for the amendment. Lluïsa is good at saying true statements; protecting truth as a safe place to stand is for the best. Lies are the tool of the desperate and incompetent, and while we're all (paladins excepted) desperate and incompetent on occasion, it's the radicals in the nobility who reach for them as a matter of habit. And it's the radicals in the nobility who a law on slander should target, however much they want one to abuse.

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In favor, for both the amendment and the law.

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This seems like a problem you wouldn't have if everybody you talked to had known you all your life. Someone could say the most preposterous things about Soler and everyone who mattered in his life would know to ask for a second opinion. But it does seem to matter a lot to the city folk.

If even the guy who's apparently a Thrune is in favor of letting people say anything true they like, though, that's got to go along with it.

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Aina doesn't like the smell of the rider. It smells like a lot of investigation into a lot of things nobody really needs dug up just because somebody shot off at the mouth. No rider. Yes slander law though.

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Iker will not survive a day if they ban getting drunk in a tavern and talking shit about anyone and everyone. Or maybe he’ll just go into debt from the fines and they’ll make him a slave. Which is worse. 

For the amendment. Against the law.

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No slander, no hiding behind negations and rumors.

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None of this makes any bloody sense. Against on the grounds that it would be nice if laws made any bloody sense.

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Of course there should be slander law, but saying true things shouldn't be a defense against incitement! Against the amendment.

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In favor of the rider to take the teeth out, against this broad and subjective law.

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He will vote for the law as he said he would, but he thinks the amendment is a good one.

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Alexandre has tragically been silent the entire time because he's pretty sure "I want to insult people so we should have dueling instead of slander law" won't net positive votes, but yes, truth should be an absolute defense.

(Shame Oriol's rider failed. Next time!)

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Against the amendment! Slander is slander!

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Jofre has never really been in a situation where this would affect him and also he can't fucking breathe. Abstain.

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Against the amendment, in favor of the law. 

It is a true statement to say ‘Mattin Guerrero pushed a man in front of an angry manticore and is now squatting in his house’ or ‘Mattin Guerrero has captured a kobold and is keeping it as a pet’. And that’s just since he got here, back at home there’s rivals assassinated and vagrants abducted and officials threatened and guards bribed and thieves hired and… Be a good skeleton and stay in the closet, why don’t you? 

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Arlet actually just wants to be able to say whatsoever the fuck she wants. No law. At least kick it in the ankles a little with the truth thing.

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