A practitioner and Elves in Arda
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...what else do we have -

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We could try to help your cousins with the bogeyman plot they're probably doing? Most things have relatively low limits on what we can do from memory, and wouldn't win this anyway.

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 Might that? - come to think of it, if they copied all the books -

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They'd still only know things we have at least one person who knows, but good point.

That probably doesn't have the same problem, the main limit would be what they can summon and there are a lot of things in the Abyss. And they already weren't that concerned with safety. But odds are real good that doesn't win anything before the Enemy deciphers English.

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And then we're back to wondering why he doesn't kill everybody with his current resources -

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If it's a hidden weakness like I thought, when he gets the new resources he would use them.

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Yep. And that seemed the most plausible, at the time-

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Plausible based on assumptions about Others that don't necessarily apply. I might have been wrong.

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Shouldn't count on it, though.

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Definitely not.

We also shouldn't count on the bombardment to win it for us. So, maybe we tell the Fëanorians they can try summoning bigger things and we'll help when they can't control it?

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Sounds good. We'll keep all this going, just in case.

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Yeah. There's no way it's not helping some.

She informs the Fëanorians right away, in case they had a standing list of things they'd try if they were more confident they could contain them.

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Any chance you can get the Silmaril back -

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It isn't literally not doable, but we don't know where the dragon went and wouldn't be able to defeat it if we did.

Assuming Ungoliant didn't end up just eating it.

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Then I don't think so, that's not what we're constrained by. 

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It didn't seem like it should be. If more ability to threaten your summons helps while you're working your way up to the really powerful things, you have it.

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Good skill. And luck.

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Likewise. How many people -

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City was empty when we got there. It was disproportionately practitioners and those were mostly gone, but it was in the thousands. And only people who knew about magic had suicide triggers.

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How long do we have, in your estimation?

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I have no idea! It depends on how long it takes him to learn an unfamiliar language, how many people are good enough at languages to help him, and how much he's speeding up time; I can't even guess at those.

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Divination -

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Can probably tell us before he does anything large scale. We haven't had much luck with finding out who's doing what inside Angband, let alone who knows what.

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I think I can get there eventually - or at least get something that can track down the Silmaril, at which point we have time -

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