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He wants to castigate the liberals for sinking this low in their desperation, but he is in fact pretty sure they're more dignified than this and had nothing to do with it; this strikes him as more of the consequence of encouraging the commons to get ideas. A pox on the galtan archmage.

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Yup, you've got it. Blackmail is just crude.

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Sigh.

"Delegate Ferrer actually recognized in committee that she should not be allowed to publish anything, as she lacks the judgement and experience necessary to determine which works are dangerous, and that indeed it is a strength of this law that it will prevent others like her from doing so."

"Beyond that, I would like to clarify for anyone who is concerned about enriching foreign publishers at the expense of our own: this bill does not do so. Generally speaking, a Chelish bookseller will buy one copy of an approved foreign work. From this original, he can make and sell as many copies as he wishes; therefore, almost all the profits go to the Chelish bookseller, who in turn goes on to buy things from the rest of his community. I am not an expert in finance, but if the economic effects do make the difference for anyone, I would ask if any of the clerics of Abadar among us are willing to estimate the loss of value we would incur by burning every book in Cheliax which is more than two years old, and of throwing every existing bookseller out of business."

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Send to Silvia, write down the rant while dodging the flying spittle and tears of wrath, get it edited and published someone actually at the convention can do that much faster than he can.

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That proposal was so long and complex that Feather gave up halfway through. Probably she could figure out, given a wtitten copy, what it would permit, but she's expected to vote on it? And there are proposed amendments to vote on, too? .

..and competing proposals, and long arguments about possible future effects, complete with multiple people saying they don't understand what it will do, and others saying somebody else misunderstood what it would do, and...

Didn't someone say simplicity was a virtue, and the meaning of a law should be obvious to the people who live by it? And that Asmodean law was only complex because it was Evil? She's sure she heard that before somewhere.

Anyway, she is Very Firmly Abstaining from this one.

(Are they still going to redo all this in forty years? Feather is optimistic about understanding Chelish humans forty years from now!)

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Overall, the arguments are very helpful, more data on the noble factions!  Also, Victoria is apparently on the rights committee, so Dia can track her down and get her to say what Jillia and Xavier said there.  It will help her triangulate which opinions are real and which are intended to shift the fringes of the conversation to make their allies’ proposals seem moderate.  (Dia still isn’t sure if Jillia is trying to shift the fringes to aide her allies proposals in favor of moderate censorship, proposing her own real opinions, or trying to sabotage the moderate censorship).

Dia is aware the reactionary-radical noble faction will probably accidentally (or on purpose) ban all written communication by non-nobles if this “moderate” censorship is beaten… but doesn’t see the big deal (for the abbey), they’ll just ignore that shit anyway.  It might actually be beneficial to the abbey, it would get Thea to give up on treating mortal society’s shit as part of her Lawfulness.  Well, maybe Thea should step up aiding beggars and such, Irori can empower True Neutral if it actually does cost Thea her Law. It feels stupid that this of all things would risk Thea’s Lawfulness, the Sisterhood of Eiseth made lawful even murdering random beggars and engaged in constant simmering conflict with the more mainstream Asmodean institutions!

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She figured anything stopping the riots would be good, but Oriol has a better point, these nobles might ban completely innocent writing of normal people and not care because they know they are above the law in the first place.  And the riots take place in the cities, so as soon as she’s back home she and everyone she cares about is safe… unless the nobles start trying to end writing altogether.  So she’ll vote against anything and everything that might give the nobles the right to interfere with her everyday life.  Lucky for her the vote is secret now, that is the only thing that might stop her.

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He’s lost track of what the Lawful and Good options are.  How much will abstaining be penalized?  

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Good thing he has someone else telling him how to vote!

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How is this going? He can't tell. Some of the backwards nobles are sounding deranged, but to different ears so was the Archduchess, though he's pretty sure she was doing that on purpose. (Both her amendments will fail. That part's obvious.) Mister Oriol's question wouldn't get a good answer from the blunt instrument 'Law and Order' is going to try, which is probably significantly helpful. Hmm. Maybe he should put them on the spot about it? No, they might change the proposal.

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Raimon's not going to assassinate a guy for talking shit. Some guys get off on talking shit, it's whatever. But he's watching. With a politely incredulous expression.

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Laia wants to get in line to talk about censorship actually, but she's also chairing Virtuous Churches so she can plan to say something about that too if they're still on that topic when she gets to the podium.

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Ricard would rather like to be able to keep reading foreign books.  Xavier seems to know his stuff about riots, so he trusts him to know how much literature can be allowed without causing another Third.

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Didac gets in line, as instructed. His wife shifts seamlessly into talking via [Message]

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(Carlota has Tallandria's comments scribed and will submit them to Westcrown's first Publishing House, the existence of which she spent this weekend negotiating with a grumpy nervous merchant who disapproved of the unbounded liability but approved of the 'you will have a monopoly on a new industry'. Greed won out eventually.)

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In an uncharacteristic display of political awareness, Lluïsa realized this was beyond her around the time the Archduchess proposed amendments to her own bill, and is just listening anxiously.

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It's still mad over people angrily denouncing its pet Mephistophelean as a Mephistophelean earlier. That is not how you deprogram recovering Mephistopheleans!

But over the current debate, it's ????????????????.

Though mortals should probably ban Asmodeus's holy book, it's dreck but it's dreck that sends people to Hell. Then again if you have a really principled free speech standard... well, in no event do mortals have it easy.

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She’s scared out of her wits, but she got the Archmage’s assistant to disguise her, and she really doesn’t want to have people arresting her neighbors over a wedding invitation.

“I think, I think everyone is upset about the third.  I thought I was going to die myself, but I made it out of town okay.  But it’s a city problem, so everyone living outside the cities should think twice about any law that’s going to affect you in countryside once you go back when this convention ends.  Do you want to be harassed by the law over a wedding invitation that mentioned Erastil?  And that’s a risk with the current proposal, which apparently some are complaining is too loose!  Just, just…”

She loses her nerve for a moment and has to take a few deep breaths.

“I haven’t ever known the law to show restraint, at least before Valia Wain’s trial.  I don’t know how I feel about that.  So I don’t trust this proposal, but if it’s more lenient than what others are asking for… I don’t know.  Could we hear the current proposal read off slowly one more time before the vote?”

She realizes she didn’t really think about this proposal as a compromise with even worse ideas.  Why can’t they just ban the bad pamphlets and let everything else go unchanged?

After a few moments of silence, she hurries off the stage, embarrassed.  At least no one will know who she was.

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"Of course," he says, voice smooth and calm and reassuring, and reads it off point-by-point with short explanations in simple words of what it all means.

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She feels a lot better after hearing it like that, she was confused by some of the terms and thought some of them had to be combined instead of each being separate options.  If it’s this or something worse she guesses she’ll take this. And the riots were pretty terrible also.

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"I have many remaining reservations about this bill but the most important one that we can address here on the floor is that the penalties are not strict enough. If a man makes a broadsheet which falsely names you, Archduke, as a diabolist and a traitor, and posts it in the city square, he spends thirty days in prison where he is fed, and pays a fine of a single gold piece. That is outrageously insufficient."

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"It is certainly a matter of high priority to institute laws against slander and libel, Your Excellency, which would impose a harsher penalty for such deeds, but I did not consider this as part of the task of this bill and so left it for a topic of its own, when it could receive the full consideration such a weighty matter deserves."

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"Ladies and gentlemen, this bill outlaws the theater.

"There is absolutely no production of play or opera that is immune to the assertion that it has social commentary if it has words in it at all, and rather few productions of wordless music or dance that meet that standard. Wizards may be patrons of the arts but seldom are they practiced at identifying all the themes of a work and guessing how the public will receive it, and then of course a play is not just the script - what wizard will want to sign off on even an innocuous play if he fears the understudy for the villain may raise his eyebrow in just the wrong way and leave him ruined?

"Theater is an entertainment for the full range of people in a city and must be presented in the local dialect. Can we understand our Molthuni and Lastwaller friends when they speak? Yes, of course! Is it as easy as understanding Chelish in the accent of your own city? Is the theater any good to you if you can't make out half the words because I had to read off the lines as they were written in Sothis, not even permitted to swap out Osiriani words that may creep into a Taldane script?

The sixth statute cannot help the theater at all, as it has no affordance for performance. The fifth? Well, maybe someone would watch me read out the Queen's decrees! Maybe I should! But I fear it would pall quickly. The seventh - a stage is not a library. Eighth? If her majesty wants a command performance, perhaps! I'd be honored! But I must sell tickets at times when she has other demands on her schedule!

In Infernal Cheliax the censors were harsh and stifling, but they existed, and playwrights and actors like myself knew how to navigate them. If this law only authorized some person or some sort of person to serve in that role - other than the petty censors it hopes to make of every laundry wizard who has no training in literature or art - perhaps it would be a good law. But friends, I speak of the theater because that is what I know. There are things I do not know, and in my ignorance I have likely missed other good and essential things that this law would ban. Someone thought of the booksellers, but no one has thought of the actors: what else have they missed? If you must ban pamphlets in Westcrown on an emergency basis please don't let me stop you! That can be done narrowly and instantly, with a broader censorship bill given time and attention and staffing before it kills a dozen fields like my own.

Thank you."

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Oh dear, Shensen will never forgive her. Even her version would have had trouble.

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Well, that's a disaster nobody anticipated.

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