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Yeah, yeah it should. How exactly does sex result in marriage? This is an alternative nonverbal oath swearing method?

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Pretty much. Marriage is - you can tell when two people are married, you can see it in their eyes, and they have osanwë over a much greater range and with some additional nuance and detail. I think there's still a verbal or commitment-affirming component but it's easy enough to do by accident that accidental drunk marriages do happen.

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...I can't tell, Kib remarks. Possibly because I don't have my own osanwë.

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Huh. Okay, good to know. It's supposed to be very nice, being married, but indecorous to discuss beyond 'you'll know someday' which I will not. My father'd probably happily tell you, since you also presumably won't know someday, if humans don't do that.

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We do not. Marriage is supposedly one of the few universal cultural habits but its exact details vary a lot, it boils down to some public acknowledgment that people are together but we have to accomplish that nontelepathically.

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No, our marriage is very much metaphysical. Thus why Eru's opinions about who can get married are made manifest.

Married Elves also supposedly die if raped. I say 'supposedly' because it hasn't come up ever in Valinor and didn't much even before.
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I'm not sure that's an advantage.

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Depends what one thinks of Mandos, really; anywhere from a convenient teleport out of a bad situation and to safety to, well, I personally really really do not want to die and can't imagine that changing.

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I mean, I guess I might get a teleport into a fresh childhood but that seems like a waste of time even compared to how long getting over a nasty experience would take me?

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Mandos can do revivals faster than a person grows up, if he's so inclined. But yes. I suppose there's also a deterrence aspect, but it doesn't seem particularly effective there.

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Oh, yeah, it's presumably faster for you than me to get up and running again, if my reincarnating wasn't a one-off in the first place.

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Let's not find out.

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Agreed.

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Whether Elves can accidentally marry humans would be very interesting but let's also aspire not to figure that one out.

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Well, I'm hardly going to investigate, but when Lári grows up she may be straight, humans often are.

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That'll be different. She'll be able to take care of herself and if she wants someone she can very well have them. I was worried about offworld guests.

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Yeah, it'll be on the info sheet.

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Thank you. That is everything I was of a mind to discuss; is there anything on yours?

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I am sort of curious if not taking turns is a sideways thing or an experimentally acquired personal taste.

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I like things with power dynamics. If our world had chosen to assign different things power dynamics I imagine I'd be fond of those, and if we were some enlightened society in which sex had absolutely no associated power dynamics then I think I'd find sex no more interesting than any other form of interpersonal interaction.
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Huh. The fact that I'm not assigning that significance to it doesn't wreck the mood or anything?

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Did I seem to have trouble staying in the mood?

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No, but maybe you're normally in still-greater transports or something, it's not like your baseline interest in interpersonal interaction seems low...

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I had a thoroughly delightful evening and I suppose it's technically conceivable that if you ever decide to start playing psychological games with me then I'll have evenings which are even more enjoyable. I didn't want you in the expectation you'd want that kind of thing.

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I don't think I'd be very good at that sort of psychological game.

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