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But imagine if you could bottle the underlying peaceful nature. 'Dump this in the water supply and watch your violent crime rate evaporate unless a god spends hundreds of years sowing dissent!'

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What is the violent crime rate in normal societies?

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Varies a lot, don't remember much about the numbers. And my standard of a normal society has a very dense population, so if I say there's a murder a day in a big city you have to remember that a big city can have six million people in it.

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Still. We never had a murder, or an attempt, before Alqualondë.

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Yep. That's what confuses me. Did you have the concept?

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We had - we knew what the Enemy'd done. My father did at one point memorably draw a sword on Nolofinwë and was I think aware that if he stabbed him enough with the sword he'd stop moving. We played games where if you were playing as evil you'd be willing to do it. But in the same way that if you were playing as evil you'd be willing to kidnap small children and raise them as princesses, it wasn't conceivable.

Morgoth found me amusingly naive.
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There are things we didn't have a concept of. Things we wouldn't do even as a move in an evil game of Governor, wouldn't even name, things we wouldn't even have accused the Enemy of, because we had no idea...that might be true of any realm, though.

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There's a story which may or may not be apocryphal about a world which lacked a concept of suicide and had a very serious problem when someone noticed that and explained it.

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i'm inclined to say they'd had a problem before and no way of solving it.

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The story is not told in a way to imply that they acted out of actual suicidality, just a complete lack of memetic immunity, but that's possible.

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He spirals a bit lower. Hmmm. Anyway, I have no idea if Morgoth would also have found Asgardians amusingly naive or if all the horrors of the world have already been independently reinvented. We were missing a lot of concepts. Not sure if I should try to remedy that.

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I don't know and I'm not sure if I want to find out.

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I promise I wasn't going to start throwing things at you.

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Didn't think you were.

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If my purported rescuer had been one of my people, I wouldn't have said as much. It was unfair to raise it with you as frequently as I did.

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I'm pretty resilient.

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I don't think I am. It's a serious shortcoming, I'm annoyed with myself for not noticing it much earlier in my life.

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I mean, I don't know how you're doing internally but you're functioning pretty well for an extremely traumatized person who has every reason to believe he's in a malicious hallucination.

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You weren't present but I spent a day curled up in a ball before I could even retrain my brain that blades of grass weren't a reason to collapse into a puddle. I've had nearly three weeks to work on it and I cannot eat or drink.

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I don't have overwhelmingly high standards for extremely traumatized people, admittedly. ...There's probably all kinds of reasons this won't work for you, but when I don't like how my brain's behaving I write it down so I can have a look at it from the outside and see if that makes it easier to approach.

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I am really not willing to put much of this to paper.

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Yeah, I didn't think so. I invented a cipher so my sister wouldn't read my notes. Don't know if that helps.

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Amusement. We also have not invented words for much of it.

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I had to make some up.

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