Kib in Arda
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Can't fault their tactics.

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Think we should have done something?

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I am managing to counter that thought as it comes up by asking it 'yeah, like what?'.

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Yep. 

 

 

I don't generally experience a desire to make someone suffer but -

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I want him humiliatingly defeated because apparently orchestrating a story of this happening would be out of character for him. And I want him dead after that. Suffering per se unnecessary.

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Very admirable. Are there other stories that would be out of character - I suppose if he tells us of them they're weaker evidence - 

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He mentioned there are emotional notes he's never seen Thauron hit, but that they aren't characteristic of any of the people he's close to anyway. Lamented surrounding himself with - I may forget a word or two - ambitious arrogant something something people -

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I could try being aggressively humble and uninspired at him?

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I suppose it's possible this would briefly amuse him? I don't really think so - he's been fooled, he can't trust himself now -

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Yeah. 

 

If the Enemy wanted him to believe one of the hallucinations he could make him forget the previous ones?

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Presumably.

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So he can't even believe he's supposed to believe this.

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Yeah, it's just as likely to be designed to sound out his reactions to things.

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I bet those forest Elves are known to Doriath and now word's going to somehow reach them.

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We could tell them first, spin it a bit...

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We probably should. I'll go talk to Maitimo. Though there's not an encouraging spin.

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"We tried to help the Elves and Men talk out their differences but the Men were deceived by Gorthaur, it's not their fault, we could maybe get them out from under him with enough help"?

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Does Thingol strike you as a rational, helpfully inclined sort of fellow?

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No, he strikes me like if I met him in person I'd probably want to strike him right back, but it's probably marginally better than "humans are murder-happy pyromaniacs, kill them if you want to live".

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I'll run it by Maitimo.

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Nod. Sigh.

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They tell Thingol. He announces that humans are banned from Doriath and from half a mile of its borders. 

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"Well. At least this way I will never be close enough to be tempted to actually smack him."

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"Please don't smack him. I don't get the sense it would help."

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"I won't, I won't."

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