Yeah. Well, more than just plain experientially altered, I don't want him obliged to act on his pre-Angband preferences for every purpose.

Yeah. Though if we could somehow just roll him back I think I would...

Yeah.

For the next month I swear not to act on motives magically altered by the Enemy, not to give the Enemy information or make it easier for him to acquire it, not to act against the interests of the Noldor in this war or enable other actors who serve the Enemy....

There are probably things that make it easier for the Enemy to acquire information which are worthwhile. Especially if we don't narrow the scope of "information".

And we can't do anything like 'in a way he doesn't expect we'd endorse' because I get the sense his mental models of us are a bit skewed.

Yep. Could make him actually run it by us - or somebody else -

Too easy for him to characterize things in a way that makes them sound harmless, unless we do want to take him up on swearing not to keep thoughts private from us which ugh.

Ugh, Kib agrees, especially under conditions of not thinking we're even real - would it work if he specified 'Kib and Findekáno, the real ones' or no? -

No, you can't use oaths to derive information about the world, they always go off your current best knowledge....

Grand. Run things by us with a complete sincere risk assessment?

Sure. is that the best use of your time? It can be 'run things by me and his family' if not...

It's not a great use of my time but it may make sense to have me as an option even if I'm not obligatory.

Okay. So 'on anything that allows the Enemy to learn information, run a complete risk assessment by at least one of -" and then some people - presumably none of us are coerceable with his current resources...

One hopes. If that looks like it's changing we can revise the list next month.

Okay.

Probably there are other details that should be picked over but this sounds at least draft quality.

Now I should probably talk to everyone who is likely to react badly to this one way or another, make sure my beloved cousins don't insist it be a golem of Lári's or something...

Why would that help?

Because to the right kind of mind, giving Maitimo back the Kingship and you the capacity to kill him at will and make it look like suicide or Enemy action is - concerning?

Well, giving the same power to a small child seems iffy in its own right. Politick as necessary, I guess.

I'd much rather it be you than Lári, obviously, but I think she's too young for it to occur to her that she has leverage just because she poked the golem and then told it 'do what Findekáno says'.

She's not too young to be talked into telling it to do what somebody else says.

I intend to point this out as often as necessary. Feanáro's been unreasonable at me lately and I don't know why, but everyone else I can get to come around.

Suppose he could've guessed.