variously evil!Elves meet Elspeth
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She seems to remember something about it being unaffordable to have a war with Doriath.

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Without the Silmarils and heavier-than-air flight. With them it'll merely be very, very ugly. Do you have an alternative in mind?

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Have they considered asking nicely. It's a radical idea especially in the world where everyone is awful but some people might not actually want the thing that was dropped on them by the Enemy in order to cause them to have a war!

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We will certainly try asking nicely first. I've dispatched messengers already. 

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Good.

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Scrying confirms that Doriath is glowing with the unmistakeable light of a Silmaril, and that the other Enemy is standing patiently outside its range. Someone tries to assassinate the King, and is captured alive. The King is checking whether there were co-conspirators he should execute also.

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Elspeth doesn't have a particularly strong opinion on the death penalty for assassins but how pray tell is he checking.

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"Do you really want to distract us both by hating me right now? It looks like the Enemy's positioning for Doriath to refuse us the Silmaril because they don't have another means of defense against the twinned version of the Enemy."

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Does he really want to get back on the train of avoiding Elspeth knowing things of relevance to her. Didn't he swear something about that. Anyway maybe Silmaril related research should be conducted in a location such that Doriath can have some of the shiny.

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Elspeth can go watch a would-be assassin be tortured if she really wants.  They can slowly march the whole population down to Doriath's borders while keeping everyone shielded from the things, but the things can presumably throw rocks or something once the Noldor are no longer behind Himring's walls.

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She does not really want. She would like him to stop that. Does that even work any better on Elves than on people from her world? It only helps if you can verify the information and they don't have a Maggie - Jane herself could torment someone all day and it would not help not if they really wanted to keep their secret -

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"We do have a way to verify information, obviously, she can swear to it."

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So they're assuming from the fact that she hasn't sworn to be acting alone that she wasn't and they're just trying to figure out who. What if she doesn't know who?

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"She could swear to that, too."

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What if she swore not to tell? Seems like a precaution a conspirator might take.

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"That'd be a shame for her, then."

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Elspeth does not like that answer. At all.

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"I did not expect you to. No one is trying to murder you but maybe even if they did you'd feel strongly about their wellbeing."

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In fact no one has ever tried to murder Elspeth. She's much too valuable alive as leverage on various people or for her magic. She's been tortured though, not for long but probably more intensely because Jane didn't really have a stun setting, and has memories of more, and she does not like this answer at all.

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"Findekáno," he says, "I'm not currently in a mood to negotiate reasonably with Doriath, do you want to have a go at changing that?"

"Better offer," Findekáno says.

"Do you want to do the negotiating?"

"No, you'll probably be better at that. I want you to do absolutely everything in your power for this not to come to a fight."

"Then go upstairs."

He knows that smiling viciously at Elspeth before he follows Findekáno upstairs will make him hate himself more but he does it anyway.

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Elspeth goes and sits within projection range of the torture victim and sends empty painless blankness to soothe it away as best she can.

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They start organizing everyone to march to within range of Doriath.

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If the torture victim would like to be mnemic-blasted Elspeth can do that.

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She would.

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There she goes.

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