"The Valar wouldn't do anything to make it harder to overthrow them, maybe something that made it harder for you to do stuff like when your pencils and paper got taken away?"

I don't know if it would occur to them to do that. They're really not very - people.

"...huh."

Uh, here it is a bad idea to say things like that, okay?

Your government seems okay so far.

- greens glance at each other.

"It's illegal to advocate breaking the law. Overthrowing the government would break the law."

" - that's an awful law. What if you had a law that people should do something bad? It'd be illegal to say 'no, that's bad and you shouldn't do it'?"

"Pretty much. It's okay to say that we should have different laws, though, that's not the same thing."

"That law is stupid and horrible and you should stop having it."

"I agree but no one has campaigned on that platform recently."

"Hmmph."

Hug.

So in Valinor if you go around yelling that the Valar are evil and you're going to overthrow them, your father will be disappointed but the Valar won't react because they - don't handle incentives normally?

I guess. They're just really bad at things. Which is why we need to overthrow them.

...okay. If someone said they were going to overthrow your father? What would happen then?

I guess he would talk with them about why they felt that way and get them set up with a city somewhere else where they could do whatever they wanted.

That sounds nice.

It hasn't really come up.

"But what if they wanted to rule his city in particular, not some other city?"

"I guess he'd have to tell them it was taken."

"Suppose they knew that and wanted to anyway."

"Then maybe my father would talk with his friends to figure out why he was unwell and being unreasonable? Or he might just ignore him."

"Huh."

" - so, you don't have a crime rate, aside from Melkor, and you don't have any mechanism for handling crimes if they do happen, but they don't, because 'someone could overthrow the King' actually just isn't true if everyone's immortal and won't acknowledge the new King and there are no law enforcement things for them to seize."