"Hm."

"Hm?"

"I'm wondering if they have anything in common with demons."

"What are those like?"

"They vary wildly. They start out as adults in an adjacent, highly unpleasant dimension, and many of them live down to it."

"Wild elementals start out pretty chill."

"That's good."

"...yeah."

"Hm?"

"It means they're kind of naive and stuff."

"That would seem to follow, wouldn't it."

"Yep."

Sigh. "How bad is it?"

"It took a while for Penumbra to trust me at all."

Sigh. "I wish I was surprised."

Sigh.

"Anything straightforward to be done about it?"

"Local magic appears to be potentially unlimited, so that's exciting."

"True. I meant more 'is the problem something that can be solved through direct application of force,' such as by say for example leading a slave uprising, or is it something that requires politics."

"Uh, in theory the correct brand of force would do most of it."

"Well. Kanimir's good at that."

Nod.

"What's the problem, precisely, or would you rather not say?"

"...not today. Sorry. You seem very nice."

"Sure. 'These people are being oppressed, here's how' is something the kind of person you don't yet know I'm not could use to oppress people."