"Eleven thousand years ago," he says, and flicks his tail against the bench, and smiles.
"Perhaps you would prefer to tell me a history of your own," laughs Isibel. "I would be happy to listen."
"My father's name was Uralesse," he says. "He wanted me to be alive. Then I was alive. Then I was me. Then he did not want me to be alive."
"Born," she reminds him faintly. "You were born, and then you were alive."
"Demons have magic. I have magic from my dragon. I did not have magic from my dragon then. Other demons did not have magic from dragons. We had magic from—" and he rubs the burn scar on his palm.
"Pain," she says quietly. "Demons got their magic from pain. They hurt other people, and those people were in pain, and then the demons had magic to use."
"Demons hurt other people," he says. "Demons hurt elves. Demons hurt unicorns. I hurt me."
"You hurt yourself -" She bites off the questioning, incredulous inflection at the last moment, makes like she was correcting his grammar. "I did not know that would make magic."
"Demons did not know that would make magic," he says. "Demons were angry. Demons were..." he frowns; shrugs. "I was other people. Demons hurt other people for magic, I hurt me for magic, I was other people."
Isibel hesitates, then puts her hand on his near shoulder, gently, in case he wants to shrug her off. "I'm sorry that happened," she murmurs.
"I - it makes me sad that it happened," she says. "I wish it hadn't happened - I want it to have not happened." She relaxes her arm, since shrugging her off seems to be the last thing on his mind.
"They hurt me for - time," he says. "Years. They put Tialle where I was so we would kill each other. But I did not kill her, and she did not kill me, and we went away."
"That's why you touched her horn," Isibel realizes. "For magic so you could escape - go away from the other demons."
"I didn't understand before why you would touch her horn or how you escaped, but now I understand."
"That was not very smart of the demons. It did not get them what they wanted," observes Isibel.