"Is it particularly useful for me to be able to guess that? I wouldn't be able to actually convince them."

"I don't think you could pull it off if I died, no. I just - enjoy watching you think it through and find it useful to know I've in fact given you enough information to derive it."

"...watching me think about it is a spectator sport?"

"I like watching people make decisions in general, and we talked about how you do more reasoning than most people."

"Okay."

"I'll stop if you like."

"...I think this is fine."

" - what's the, uh, scenario in which it's not fine, or should I not know."

"I don't know how much detail you're getting."

"...a fair bit? What kind of detail would not be fine -"

"I don't know how to describe it."

"I'll stop."

"Thanks."

Nod.

"...sorry."

Nod.

"Owning people while knowing that it's fucked up sounds tiring."

"I guess if we were to list all of the things wrong in the world and kept at it for a couple centuries it'd make the list."

"I wasn't making any statements about how big a deal that is relatively speaking."

"Yes. It's very unpleasant and I hate it."

"'s part of why I'm not remotely worried I'd just get tempted to let things rest that way if it looked too hard to fix them."

"You don't think you'll figure out a way to become comfortable with it because it's too unpleasant not to?"

"There isn't a way to become comfortable with it, I cannot not notice the effect I have on people around me and if the effect is hurting them -"

"Some people notice it and find they don't object."