"We're going to need abundant daeva, what with all these worlds to fix."

"So very many. I wonder if little hovercar things that you could seal people up in and take them into and out of Milliways would constitute violence if they tried to get out but were already stuck when they entered? I feel like that might depend on who was on security."

"Seems like a bit of a stretch. We could probably send a couple million through under current protocols."

"It's just Iobel's thing doesn't scale and I may be waiting a very long time on sufficiently generic resurrection. Leaving people behind in Warp who don't need to be there seems worth avoiding to the extent you can."

"Trust me, I know. Every person we can get into a world where they can have as many kids as they want - we owe our people that, no one's confused on that point. It's just that Milliways is ridiculously dangerous in the wrong hands."

Nod. "You could ask Security if they'd interfere."

"If I can accumulate the leverage to make it happen given Security approval I will definitely ask about security approval."

Nod.

"Sending a couple million of our people through will be an easier sell but they can maybe even relax on that eventually."

"What's the concern about sending other countries' people through exactly?"

"Can't let them visit home or they'll teach their home governments summoning, less committed to not horrifying the locals - we really put an astonishing amount of effort into arranging that everyone interfacing with humans understood human values thoroughly enough to - translate ours into those terms, if nothing else - I don't know if you read the interviews -"

"No, should I?"

"It'd be illustrative of the point but it's not exactly critical or anything. Anyway, we could probably let Tapa or Voa do it but - Tapa kills kids born without a credit, they wouldn't do that on a colony planet but they sure don't think there was anything wrong with doing it in the first place -"

"Yeesh."

"Yeah. Getting along with Revelation humans is a tough enough culture fit anyway. And then there are countries that - foster habits of irresponsible conduct which might or might not go away if people could just have kids -"

"Hm?"

"Some countries have an organized crime problem, some just have lots of people who can more or less do as they please as long as they aren't so annoying their peers have them assassinated, some countries do credits mostly as a way of getting everyone nicely motivated to make money for their rulers and won't want to stop just because we no longer need population controls, we have lots of people who would, given the chance, found their own planet and rule it not very nicely -"

Nod.

"Anitam is nothing to write home about but we - conceive of the purpose of government as giving our people a safe, stable, lawful and democratic society."

Nod.

"Voa might be fine."

"They also have this enlightened conception?"

"And no infanticide to make things awkward."

"Humans are okay with abortion but infanticide is indeed awkward."

"It doesn't happen much but Tapa's got well over a billion people, something can be very rare and still enough of a thing to stress out humans. - it's for historical reasons -"