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"I think I've mentioned before that gods are powered by quintessence from the Material Plane? A storm god isn't primarily a manifestation of the power of storms, they're primarily a manifestation of people's experiences of storms."

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"...oh huh.  That does make sense.  Cool.

"...Is there a god of people's experience of gods?"  The question is surprisingly funny to contemplate, and she strangles another laugh before it can happen.

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"Well, Winlas is a god of people's experiences of religious ceremony and ritual."

(Griffie is not going to bring up any discussion of the 'divinity domain' unless it is actually strategically necessary, which it does not seem to be.)

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She allows herself one giggle.

One.  No more giggles than that.

What is she doing, that is definitely more than one giggle.  Stop that at once, future herself!

"Oh my goodness there actually is, I was going to make a joke but the fact that Paizo came up with Winlas is infinitely more funny than --!"

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"…I still don't think that just because a deity in my world also appears in some publication means my world is fundamentally secondary to that publication."

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"No, no, you are as real as I am, I'm sure, it's just - Pathfinder-the-rulebook just threw it in and yours has a fullthroated raison d'être!"

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"I mean, there are a lot of deities, if I were selling recreational books I would probably not go into tons of detail about all of them?"

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"Sure, but they still...did it really weirdly.  Here, look."

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Griffie has a look at the webpage. "The library name is correct. This is describing a differently organized Heaven, mine doesn't have numbered levels and Winlas isn't in Requius. I've never heard of the Mwangi Expanse or Aroden and haven't heard of the herald mentioned either, but it hasn't really come up. And even without details on the source of divine power, someone occupying the role described there seems reasonable? Corruption of holy rituals and impersonation and such are problems."

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"You probably don't have Aroden unless he set off the godwar behind the seal.  He's pretty...specific."

"And yeah, I guess that makes sense..."

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"It's not like all gods are equally powerful or prayed to?"

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"...yes?  That's just how polytheism is.  ...wait a minute, why's your Winlas Lawful Good, if - Evil people, Evil faiths, can have ritual experiences too, y'know?  How'd he pull that off?"

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“A domain can have multiple gods and a god can have multiple domains. Axis covers documentation of stuff, Hell has coverage I’m sure though I don’t remember who, being a meta-ish deity in the Abyss probably isn’t smart unless you’re a parasitoid like Sifkesh, Protean Lords don’t actually publish handy org charts.”

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She nods.  "Makes sense.  There's no Malal-Chaos-God-Of-Order lurking in this Chaos.  And he got retconned anyway."

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“Proteans can turn Lawful but then they … aren’t chaotic.”

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"Yeah, that's why you can't have a Malal."

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"I mean, I suppose you could have someone in a similar role; 'fuck all of you in particular' is a very Chaotic Evil hat, but - well, here, look at him."

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Griffie has a look. "It seems weird for gods to have sacred numbers, what do they do with them? Sorry, tangential."

Griffie looks further. "I think daemons, uh, Abaddon!daemons, are the only group in Suaal that I know of that manages to be that pure a destructive hatred including of their own kind and still be stable. If a demon is full of hatred for the Abyss and nothing else … maybe they leave, maybe they sign up with some other plane as a suicide bomber targeting Abyssal targets, either way they don't make it to demon lord. Big Ear, uh, sorry, the King of Wind Demons, was pretty fixated on his hatred for Lamashtu for a while, and was primarily known in some circles for working with the Upper Planes and Axis to oppose her, but it wasn't literally his only goal."

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"Mostly, get their grubby cognitohazardous fingers into more pies than they otherwise would, as far as I understand that lore.

"It's a rather horrifying place."

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Griffie is not discussing pervasive infohazards. “Mm.”

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"Yeah.  Don't go there.  Like, ever.  Warhammer Chaos, whether that's in Fantasy of 40K, is really bad for everyone's health."

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“Sounds like. I certainly won’t engage anytime soon, but after winning a godwar one might feel expansionist.”

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"I'm sure there's ever been people who supplanted Chaos, but boy would I recommend extensive research on possible methods first.  And opening with rendering Tzeentch especially completely unable to act.  And having done god-scale combat against something at least aleph-null strong elsewhere first, that's less...

"Well, less like Chaos is."

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“I’m very obviously a fan of extended research and preparation and appropriate exploitation of surprise.”

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"Yeah.  I just have to say that warning, or think I haven't warned you enough.  Chaos: the worst thing ever."

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