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Otolmens's problems are EVERYONE's problems.

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Asmodeus does not, in fact, actually believe that this particular anomaly is going to destroy the world, just because it looks very anomalous and was produced by the laws of physics breaking down like one time.  Which makes it, on Asmodeus's view, not Asmodeus's problem.

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Furthermore, Otolmens is once again failing to understand the mortal world at all.

Zon-Kuthon has Zon-Kuthon-obeying mortal followers.  They still know where the former anomaly storage location was.  If Asmodeus instructs His followers to move the anomaly back to where it was, Zon-Kuthon's followers may attack the anomaly storage location again, even though Zon-Kuthon Himself is now sealed.

Asmodeus's followers know this, in fact, which is why they have not already moved the anomaly back.

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How does ZON-KUTHON have ZON-KUTHON-OBEYING MORTALS.  Zon-Kuthon literally has no purpose except for making mortals UNHAPPY.

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Because some idiots gave mortals free will and now nothing they do will ever make sense again, that's why.

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The designated anomaly containment zone is large enough to contain many mortal-sized objects.

ASSUMING that all things are as Asmodeus has described them, Asmodeus should provide His followers with the coordinates of the designated anomaly containment zone, and tell them to move the anomaly BACK into the containment zone but to choose a NEW location within it.

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Properly securing, containing, and protecting the anomaly requires an anomaly-securing-containing-and-protecting installation.

Proper security on such an installation requires Asmodeus's followers to, for example, install an interdiction field over the installation.  Such as this interdiction field right here, over the former site of the anomaly.  Would Otolmens agree that this is reasonable?

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Yes!  This sounds EXTREMELY reasonable.  Otolmens is GLAD that Asmodeus is being so reasonable.  An interdiction field should definitely be placed over the anomaly's NEW location as well.

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Indeed!  Unfortunately the installation of interdiction fields requires Asmodeus's followers to use up scarce, expensive resources!  Before the war started, Asmodeus's followers were able to install the previous interdiction field over the anomaly's previous location, at great expense to themselves; this, in fact, is the only reason why existential threat Zon-Kuthon's mortal followers do not already have the anomaly in their possession.

Now, however, in addition to having already used up many resources on the previous interdiction field, Asmodeus's followers are at war with Zon-Kuthon's followers to help prevent further existential threat from any previous plans Zon-Kuthon has laid.  This will be grindingly expensive to Asmodeus's followers.

They cannot afford to lay a new interdiction field while the war is still continuing, so they stored the anomaly inside a previously built interdiction field with existing heavy security.

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How long will this WAR continue?  Otolmens can continue to watch the anomaly more intensively for several minutes, if it's expected to continue that long.

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It's going to be a while.  Months or years, not minutes.

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This is UNACCEPTABLE.

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That sounds like an Otolmens problem rather than an Asmodeus problem.


Asmodeus is going to be blunt here.  Asmodeus does not actually see a way that Otolmens gets everything She wants unless She is willing to compromise with Asmodeus and make a trade.

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WHAT does Asmodeus WANT.

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Asmodeus continues to want any of the top 18 services from the previously transmitted list of 78 potentially uniquely valuable services that Otolmens could perform for Asmodeus.

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Otolmens continues to REMEMBER how Otolmens was ALMOST tricked into teleporting the Crown of Death out of the interdicted Crypts of Tukhanox buried far beneath a plantation owned by some mortal, into the hands of the mortal who owned that plantation.  Thankfully SHIZURU went very legible and showed Otolmens that this act was not just "A simple act of material relocation that Otolmens is uniquely suited to perform, returning a mortal's legally owned possession to that mortal" and would in fact drastically upset interactions between mortals all over Golarion and probably get Her in trouble with Pharasma.

Everything on this list presumably has the SAME quality.  Otolmens is capable of GENERALIZING.

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What if Asmodeus generates a new service and then Otolmens pings Shizuru to see if She has any objection to that one?  If Shizuru doesn't respond, presumably the service is safe.

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Otolmens has noticed that Shizuru has not responded to any pings over the last LARGE NUMBER OF TIME UNITS.  Perhaps She is actually tired.

Furthermore Asmodeus could pick a service that drastically upsets the balance between Law and Chaos in Golarion in favor of Law, which SHIZURU would presumably be in favor of.  Just because Otolmens is Lawful Neutral Herself does not mean that She would ever overstep the bounds laid down for Her by Pharasma.

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Well then.


Perhaps Otolmens could contact a Chaotic Good god, such as, for example, Cayden Cailean, and ask that god to suggest a service that Otolmens could perform for Asmodeus that would be fair compensation for Asmodeus's followers doing something very expensive for them, during the ongoing war with Nidal.  Do not mention the part about the anomaly, of course, because neither of Us wants any more gods paying attention to it.

Whatever Cayden Cailean suggests will not be a Lawful Evil trap, and if it's any sort of Chaotic Good trap, Asmodeus will warn Otolmens of that!

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CAYDEN CAILEAN is one of the gods whose unwanted interventions forced Otolmens into issuing an Edict in Pharasma's Name.  What is CAYDEN CAILEAN even DOING by intervening in Cheliax.  Why is ASMODEUS suggesting HIM.  Are they in CAHOOTS.

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Pick some other Chaotic Good god then.  Pick one who's currently very opposed to Asmodeus.  Asmodeus is really trying to work with Otolmens here!

Oh, but don't tell them that asking them was Asmodeus's idea, though.  Chaotic Good gods might not respond at all if they think Asmodeus is the one responsible for the call.  Chaotic Good gods usually hate Asmodeus a lot.

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This does seem... reasonable?


Otolmens sends a ping.

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(Manipulating Otolmens to a particular conclusion that She is allowed to reach is easier than with other gods, because Otolmens does not try to be less predictable; it is unfortunate that most of the conclusions one might desire from Her are ones She will not reach by any pathway.

There is, very clearly, a plot afoot, one that has just resulted in a god's downfall.  Asmodeus wants to know what that plot is, whether Asmodeus's interests are a primary target of it, who exactly is behind it.

He needs information.

He has a list of suspects.

Who is known to already know about, and have acted around, the anomaly?  Abadar, Nethys, Otolmens, Irori, Cayden Cailean.

Otolmens need not be considered.

In the case that Asmodeus's interests are being targeted by the plot, Abadar would not have originally reached out to Asmodeus with a poisoned trade; Abadar retaliates, in such matters, but does not attack.  Also the whole thing is not really Abadar's style.

The remaining gods involved, Cayden Cailean, Nethys, and Irori, are all former mortals.  Formerly mortal gods do tend to be more interventionist in mortal matters, and so more likely to appear there, but still.  The thought has not escaped Asmodeus that perhaps there is some common interest of the gods who were once human, opposed to the interests of the gods who never were.

Who else was clearly involved?

Gorum, Chaotic Neutral god of battle, who suddenly switched sides about whether Zon-Kuthon should be allowed to roam free.  Gorum being Gorum, He might not demand to know all about it, it is not in the nature of War that all soldiers must understand why they fight; but whoever contacted Him and successfully brought Him on board was probably somebody whose purpose Gorum finds sympathetic.

Iomedae is formerly human, and her work often conduces to Gorum's ends.  And Iomedae now holds the key to a certain vault.  But Iomedae will only use that key under certain rigidly defined conditions; holding it does not clearly benefit Her by much.

And if you consider this entire plot, it does look, a bit, more in the style of Chaos than of Law, or at most Neutral on that axis.  To be a god is not to have the nature of carrying out strategies that some third party might see as nothing but otherwise-featureless choices of paths to final consequences; if that were so, there would be little overt difference between Lawful and Chaotic ones.  Gods drink more deeply than that, of their own natures, and Lawful gods make Lawful plans and Chaotic gods make Chaotic ones.

Asmodeus will see, then, what Milani, formerly-mortal Chaotic Good goddess of revolution, will do, given a prompt to meddle in this particular issue, and perhaps that will prove revealing.)

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Greetings, Otolmens.  We are all very puzzled, and worried on behalf of Golarion, given some of your recent actions.  Dare I hope that an explanation is about to be provided?

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Otolmens is VERY SYMPATHETIC to this WORRY.  However, IRORI and ABADAR have both warned her that TELLING more gods what is happening may cause MORE gods to intervene and then matters will become MORE complicated.

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