They did jump a long way; maybe they lost them.
Carissa goes to her appointment with the diplomat. He has the same eerie ageless face as the rest of them, and elaborately braided hair, and according to Detect Thoughts accepts her explanation about her various art projects without seriously considering that they might be false, though he does wonder privately if some terrible past experience drove her to that.
"A lot of people have a hard time interacting with orcs because of the - tragedy, right. They were supposed to be us. if they had not been harmed so grievously and deliberately they would be our neighbors. But - this is the world as the Creator saw fit to make it for now, apparently, and they're not like us, and they're not just a tragedy. They have their own interests and passions, and I do think there's much to be learned from them. And their love for their children is very inspiring; I think it has taught me to appreciate my own in new ways."
"Is it true," she says, "that Melkor - made orcs by torturing Elves."
"Yes. Our body knows the form it ought to take, and only constant pain holds it back from taking that form. Orcs are in pain all the time."
"Do they mind?"
"They don't. I admit it seems very strange to me but they don't seem to consider it very concerning at all."
It doesn't seem very strange to Carissa at all. "What did Melkor want?"
"If only we knew. I think he was just - evil, because he's evil. He wanted to hurt and enslave people."
"The orcs seem ...harder to enslave than Elves, really."
"What do you mean by that?"
"They're - more suspicious? More - defiant, more inclined to act in their own interests and not the interests of strangers..."
"I think that makes them easier to enslave. Half slaves already."