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"...caveat that I as an individual feel unusually strongly about this. Probably most other people do not have such intense opinions about it. But it's important that people be able to - evaluate what is happening to and around them and make decisions about it on their own terms, and if what's happening to them is that they are telekinetically separated from whoever they were beating up, that's something they can do that with, and if what's happening to them is that they are suddenly magically calm, that likely is not."

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Is this more or less bad than eating children?

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"Are you envisioning having to trade off the two things in practice or are you just trying to put things in some sensible order."

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Most of the things humans think are bad I thought were bad as a sea person.  This one I did not, but that doesn't mean it's less bad to you?  So I would like to know.

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"I think eating children is worse and probably most people who are not me would think eating children was a lot worse."

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What about killing the people you don't like and eating them?

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"As you heard me say to Kerem I don't intuit that eating them makes it any worse than killing them alone, but killing people in general is bad unless you are defending yourself or other people against violence from them and don't have a non-killing option to achieve that."

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So about the same?

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"As... killing children or as doing mind control? All these things admit of a fair amount of variation in how bad they are, honestly."

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As mind control.

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"...I think there's enough variance that I wouldn't want to say that mind control is in general better or worse than killing people, I can think of comparisons between examples of both that come out each way pretty easily."

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Like what?  One of each?

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"Killing someone who's trying to kill you is not as bad as, say, mind-controlling a random stranger into giving you all their possessions and barking like a dog instead of speaking every time they try to complain about that. Murdering your neighbor is worse than... magically calming down a baby who's been colicky for the last week and won't let their mother sleep."

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Nod nod.

I hope I will never have a time when I think I have to try any of these without being able to ask a human I like first.

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"I certainly also hope so!"

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Was I any different when playing magic?

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"A little, but I think all your musical magic is liquidy in the same way, and it was moving pretty fast."

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Do you think you may be able to see it more well after some time understanding my magic?  I think this would be very good for us being able to do all things if so.

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"I do think that I'm possibly making progress on it!"

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Slightly scrawlier than usual:

If you can see me doing magic well, then this may mean you can change it?  Then this would mean that if I became good at your magic I could do one magic to the other magic I do, and maybe more things can be with this than can be with the two alone

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"I'd be really nervous about changing anything that high-stakes, I'd want to practice with things like the pillows or whatever first till I'm good at sloshing the liquid properties around, but yeah, it's a really intriguing possibility."

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Of course.  Your pillow is also still a liquid?  Have you learned anything from it?

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"It has solid properties like a pillow normally would but the magic is the liquid kind, yes, I think I'm learning from it."

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And I have liquid and also solid, too?

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