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Oct 21, 2020 12:31 AM
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That is reasonable. I will consider it further but I think I would approve of that name.

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:Can't look into the future to see if you will or not?:

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A flicker of amusement. I suppose that would be one way of describing how I make decisions, but I think that - depicts the process as more circular than it in fact is. A different description would be that I will look ahead to see which paths would be good, and the pattern-that-I-am is, predictably, always going to choose the most-good path. According to my assessment of goodness, of course.

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:Fair enough.

Will we be able to talk to you from Haven?:

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Yes, once I am ready to begin speaking with the other gods. I am old enough now that this is going to be my judgement and not Leareth's, but I do not think I am quite ready yet, I will need a little longer to become used to my current way-of-being.

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:What's it like?:

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It is like - imagine that you woke up tomorrow and suddenly your arms and legs were several miles long and you could suddenly multiply ten-digit numbers in your head, but nothing else was different. It gives me greater reach but it is somewhat disorienting.

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:That sounds like it would make it hard to do things nearby:

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'Nearby' and 'far away' are odd concepts at a god-scale, so that is perhaps a confusing analogy, but - yes, having the greater reach does mean there is a larger gulf to cross in, for example, translating concepts to you in this way, than there was before. It can be crossed because I have correspondingly more resources to do the translating with, but I do need much more processing dedicated to that.

Pause. That is a fact about the Shadowgod, I think, They have a very long reach but lack all the kinds of internal infrastructure They would need to also operate 'nearby'.

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:Huh. Does that cash out to - longer timescales?:

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Longer timescales and longer...paths-of-inference and paths-of-influence, I think. It is now easier for me to notice and cheaper for me to use indirect routes to achieve goals, which means I am less comprehensible to humans, who find it easiest and cheapest to model and carry out nearby actions.

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:Huh. But you're still - localized physically, that seems in tension to me:

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Localized in a material plane territory, you mean? I think this part seems much less salient to me because most of my existence is not based in the material world at all.

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:But causes can affect results that are far away - normal travel takes a long time but divine Foresight reaches a lot farther than that, and Gates are quick. So even if being physically localized isn't looming very large in your experience of the world, it's weird that you simultaneously have a smallish area of the world where your influence is strong and also a long time horizon:

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I suppose that is odd. There is a - privileging-the-centre sort of asymmetry to it. It does not feel more counterintuitive to me than the fact that there is meaningfully a 'present moment' even though past and future in Foresight seem they should be symmetrical. I am not sure if that makes sense to humans though.

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:Is your territory a place where it's most convenient to start things that will later affect stuff how you want it, some of which might be far away, or a place where you can get results you want, even if some of the cause-end tweaks are best made elsewhere, or both?:

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That does not quite feel like the natural way to divide it, but - I think somewhat more the latter thing, though the former thing is not false.

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:What would be a natural way to divide it?:

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I am not yet sure how to translate that into human words. I will think about it.

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:Okay:

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I think there are many things I will need to learn how to translate into human words. But there is time for that. 

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:Yup. It's going to be fun figuring everything out:

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