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We don't have that! It sounds ...bad. Are you all right?

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:I'm fine, but it's a reasonable question. I also have a Companion, who is a magic horse person who is also glued to my soul but slightly less so and it was more under her control and she was able to wait till I asked, which I would not normally have done but was kind of wedged about. She saw what happened and can presumably tell people such as my lifebonded, though she'd take some time to get to him:

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All right. I'll let people know to maybe expect them, at least. They're in ...the same place as Maedhros's wife? Or the same part of the world but in different eras? I'm sorry, there's a lot to track, here...

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:My world is a few years earlier than his version. My Companion and I were in Valdemar's capital city Haven at the time I was eaten by a monster; my lifebonded lives north of Valdemar, which is not a formal political unit:

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All right. Sigh. 

 

Everyone I've spoken to is all right with it if we bring Maedhros in here. But we want to avoid discussing the events of our world with him. Can you be careful not to mention it?

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:The whole war with the evil god? Yeah:

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Just for now. Probably at some point we will come up with a better plan. I'm assuming that the people he was with had some kind of one. 

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:Maybe, but they were keeping him prisoner so I doubt he knows a lot of detail:

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They were keeping him prisoner?

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:Yeah. There was a war in his version that is not happening, at least not yet, in mine - my Velgarth hasn't had contact with Arda - anyway the other side of the war grabbed him and that's whence all the mind magic:

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I would really like to speak to his wife because I assume that she has all of the context on under what conditions the Valar saw fit to restore him to life and whether there's information he shouldn't have or a plan to introduce him to it gradually -

- but also I am pretty concerned? If he doesn't remember anything about the last five hundred years of his life, and they involved fighting a doomed war against an evil god and being tortured for decades and losing everyone he loved and then eventually losing himself to his terrible oath and committing lots of crimes - and the decision that has been made is to keep all of that from him for the time being -

- then he is in no state to get married!

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:- I brought up the alternate versions of the world thing because it seems plausible to me that this world also has alternate versions, if mine does:

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Oh. Maybe. 

 

We should talk with him and try to figure that out, I guess.

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:Yeah, I think so:

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So he has Maedhros, or maybe just Nelyafinwë Maitimo, the man who'd been dead a long time by the time Elrond met him, set up comfortably in a room in the houses of healing of Imladris, and gets a lot of paper for taking notes, and then they can go in there to compare them. 

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"I am pretty confident that Leareth found his way to Arda by accident while doing magic research in 807. He is a secretive person but I think if he'd found his way over years or lifetimes before that there'd have been some things that went differently. His intervention precipitated the war, in some ways, but I don't think that was his fault, the gods saw a new piece on the playing field and sprung any plans they had in wait that they didn't want ruined. Melkor attacked Valinor and killed one person, my grandfather. My kingdom retaliated and killed - gods, tens of thousands of orcs. Leareth was on the side of my kingdom. I hadn't defected yet but my father and I were fighting constantly."

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"In my world it's 803 in Valdemar, Leareth and I were lifebonded earlier this year when he was on a business trip to Petras in neighboring country Rethwellan, and there has been no contact with Arda except for my appearance here today. I was working on preventing Leareth from going to war with Valdemar and I think I got that mostly sewn up before disappearing, fortunately."

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"I don't know all that much about the political situation back home at that point but Leareth felt the discovery there were other worlds obviated his original plans, and when he asked Vanyel to come help kill Melkor Vanyel agreed, so they must not have actively been at war.

Melkor captured Leareth, turned him to his side - through lots of iterations of attempted persuasion, I think, he can modify memories and other features of minds. Leareth did some work for him - only little bits that we saw, he Gated orcs into Valinor so the Valar panicked and banned Gating, which made it much harder for the Noldor to fight the war - I don't think they were uncomplicatedly allied and there was probably a lot of torture and mind-control involved -"

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"I'm sorry.

 

Vanyel figured out a way to destroy Angband using - um, I'm sorry, using very powerful magic that I think Vanyel made the deliberate decision not to let Leareth know he had, just in case, so I probably shouldn't tell you -"

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"...okay..."

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"Leareth died when the war spilled over into Velgarth - this was in 813 - came back as Telumë, which is Quenya for the same thing - night sky - but for about a year we hadn't heard from him. Once Melkor was dead, the war turned into an excuse for everyone who'd ever wanted a war to have it. My father wanted to build Leareth's god, with or without him, faster than he'd originally planned, kill the peoples of Arda to do it.

I left the Noldor. It had been - while we were fighting Melkor it didn't really matter what I thought of my father or what I thought of all our allies or our end goals because obviously it was better than Melkor, but then he was dead and the war wasn't over and - I left. Went to Haven. There was war between Iftel and Leareth's people in the north, between Valdemar and the Star-Eyed's people - and by this point Valdemar and Karse and Iftel were all allied, I don't know if that's true in your timeline - I spent most of my time trying to stabilize the relationship between Rethwellan and Valdemar, the Queen in Rethwellan was assassinated and they looked likely to join the whole mess from some angle - they didn't, they're still at peace as far as I know -

- and Telumë and his allies made a plan to get me back. They - succeeded. I hadn't expected that to be possible. Kidnapped me right out of Haven and had one of the Star-Eyed's mages step through the Gate they dropped me through and do a Final Strike in the middle of the city so no one would know what exactly had happened. I woke up in Telumë's custody. That was about six months ago."

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"The plan to build a god matches... uh, Elrond, the killing people is a power source thing, way more people are projected to die if nothing of comparable scope is achieved to deal with the next magical disaster expected in a couple centuries but I acknowledge it is very horrible... Valdemar has an alliance on paper with both of Iftel and Karse at this time since they won their war with Karse and endorsed a claimant to its throne instead... I am bewildered to hear he had an alliance with the Star-Eyed, she's historically been very hostile to him even for a god."

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"I was confused by it too. She's having some kind of dispute with Vkandis but that's probably only one piece of the story. There was fighting in Lineas, which she was very upset about because there's a Heartstone there that's holding some kind of horrific magical fault line closed."

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" - can we backtrack a little bit, is Telumë a man or a woman."

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