We have not. But my grandmother was your niece - Itarillë - born in Valinor -

Oh! Well, you'll have to meet her. - once the war's over, probably. Is Sauron dead in this world?

No. But I can hold Imladris against him. 

How many Noldor are there outside Valinor.

About ten thousand. 

Ten thousand?

Like I said. Most people were dead by the time the Valar intervened. And they haven't permitted much subsequent emigration either. I don't think it'll be a conventional war, with Sauron -

It won't be but there is something we could have used half a million of our people for.

This place is beautiful. 

Thank you.

Did you know Maedhros.

Our fathers didn't get along. Is he here?

Yes. He swore himself into contradictory oaths and they're - planning to take him to the other Velgarth or something. Because Mandos doesn't know what to do with oaths. 

Did he never learn? That's all the orcs and it's been thousands of years.

I think the events of the war made the Valar more insular. It sounds like you're on better terms with yours.

Huh.

He turns to look more closely at the other humans and looks ridiculously confused. 

Belrun waves.

"These are some of the counterparts from the other Velgarth," Vanyel explains, tiredly. "It's earlier than the one I left. Leareth over there is lifebonded to Belrun." :Also extremely appalled and confused about Telumë and the entire marriage situation. I think some explanations were demanded, not sure what the result was: 

"We should explain about the Ring," the other Leareth says. He's noticeably a bit younger than the Leareth from Arda before his death. "Did you cover that at all, Elrond?" 

"I did not."

"The Sauron here made a terrifying magical artifact which - grants its bearer enormous power, and also mind-controls and corrupts them. It also has mind-control effects from a distance, to tempt people into picking it up. Sauron does not have it at this point, I am unclear on why. Maitimo had been offering advice to Sauron on how to retrieve it with Velgarth magic, so Sauron was attempting to spy on Imladris. We scryed for him and saw him in two locations, so - we scouted the secondary one, after rescuing Maitimo, assuming he was possessing a creature or otherwise doing reconnaissance. We...did not make the connection that the Ring was a major focus of Sauron's magic. Fortunately we Gated in a mile away, and...were able to walk away from it. Barely." 

"- I see. So there are - two Saurons who need killing, one magic Sauron artifact that - also needs killing? Another Velgarth - where Leareth is already married to someone different, is that the only notable divergence? How long have you been married to someone different?"

"Not long at all. A month?" 

"Lifebonds are not the same thing as being married."

Have we explained our plan to win the war, he asks his Vanyel. Because I think having a more-intact Leareth in on it makes me significantly less worried we can pull it off.

:It's been discussed. Maitimo brought it up in, er, the worst possible way - to Belrun, she landed here alone at the same time as him, her Leareth caught up a week later and we arrived with Telumë shortly after that. And then sent back Belrun to get the other Vanyel and Savil, and tiny Stef for additional painblocking since Maitimo swearing himself into a contradictory oath meant it was sort of necessary to have both for Telumë to participate in a conversation. I don't think we came to a conclusion yet but - I suspect the, um, intact Leareth has been considering offering to come take over: 

"I apologize," he says to Belrun.  "What...are people trying to achieve right now?"