"Yes."

Vanyel scries for it. 

This works fine, at first. He concentrates for a minute and then it stops working. 

"He'll need the Ring," he says firmly. "Or for Maedhros to be conscious, I assume we are going to have a plan before that occurs?"

"We have the starts of some plans but all of them require an interworld Gate." 

 He nods tensely.

"I can keep him unconscious a good while before it causes any permanent harm - we did it for a week before, actually, the limiting factor is how long I can stay awake. Hmm. Probably 'find the Ring before he does' is a doomy plan for all the reasons we've already mentioned?" 

"If we can manipulate it remotely it might be workable. I think we should avoid bringing it here with magic or sending a team to directly get it and do things with it."

"I think we might have some options with Gates, since Leareth can do weird things with them and presumably so can Telumë." 

"You know, our Arda has found some other worlds. Uninhabited ones. They're not useful to us but we could, in theory, drop a Ring there and seal the place off somehow, I bet Fëanáro could figure out some really solid protections to put around it." 

"I think without it Sauron cannot permanently be destroyed. But I suppose if he were restricted to an uninhabited planet that'd be good enough - as long as he couldn't learn how to leave -"

"Well, what are the ways of permanently destroying it? You'd mentioned a volcano - are there others? Is there magic from our world– Vanyel do not offer to Final Strike it, I know that face, goddamnit." 

"I don't know of other ways within our world. The Valar could maybe do it but we're not on good terms. Maybe it'd be straightforward with magic from other worlds but not being able to get close is a constraint."

"We still need to find out where it is," the older of the Vanyels says, darkly. "Before Sauron. ...Hmm, you know, I wonder if Sauron part two is easier to fight than the main one. If we can destroy that, it'll slow down his searching, give us more time." 

"I've never even heard of a Maia having two parts, it might be possessing that - creature? I would not expect it to be in fighting form, from that image."

"Hmm. I think we'd better be really careful, still. Maybe once we've all had a rest, half of the mages can go out there, Gating to a good distance away - I think Leareth has to be one of them, he can do the weird kinds of Gate - and some of us can stay back here just in case something goes wrong and we need to, er, scheme a rescue, or, um, not that." 

Nod. 

"I don't think there's any reason to have him on the floor inside a barrier when he's out like this and his senses are scrambled too," Melody points out. "I can properly block his osanwë again just in case, since I'm sitting here anyway, and also he won't be tracking much if he somehow does wake up, not without painblocking. Can we get him in a bed?" 

"Yes." He can show her where a suitable room is.

With several different peoples' help, they can get Maitimo into a bed, and then Melody settles herself in for a long vigil. It doesn't take a lot of her Gift to keep him under, so the limiting factor really is going to be how long she can stay awake. 

Savil and the two Vanyel's are syncing up. 

"I'd best not go," she decides. "I'm not much in a fight anymore. And - hmm," she looks at the older Vanyel, "you don't have the problem with Gates anymore? One, we should figure out how to replicate that, but two, probably you should be the one who goes." 

Younger Vanyel eventually takes over keeping an eye on the scrying so the other one can grab some sleep. 

Neither Sauron gets up to much. 

Weird shriveled Sauron curls up to sleep.

Leareth snuggles Belrun to sleep, which doesn't take very long, and thinks about getting up, but he's actually feeling tired as well; his suspicion is that her exhaustion is hitting him too, via the lifebond. Which at least means that she should recover faster. 

Melody redoes some blocks. Fidgets. Eventually asks Elrond if he has any books in Quenya, which she can read fairly fluently.