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:I'll, er, tell Telumë that they should figure something out, I guess. Possibly I should travel back. Did you still want to leave now?: 

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Nod. :Jisa? Let's pack up and go: 

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:I'm not going back to the north: Jisa says, conversationally. 

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:What? No one said–:

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:If Telumë wants to keep him horribly imprisoned, clearly everyone in Arda has decided he's welcome to, but he can get someone else's help: 

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:Jisa, he - probably doesn't want to do that...: This doesn't seem like a productive conversation to continue right now. 

They pack up. Get on the Companions. Jisa will ride Rolan until they meet up with the Valdemaran party, and then give him back to Dara and probably ride double with Vanyel, there's a lot of Companion-swapping going on these days. 

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Fëanáro and Nerdanel spend the whole trip talking to each other. By the end Fëanáro is calmer but not tons calmer.

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Vanyel considers riding ahead at several points - maybe he's being too paranoid, Maitimo isn't even here anymore - but decides not to risk it. Probably Jisa will peel off with Fëanáro and Nerdanel once they meet up with Treven again. 

They cross paths with the Valdemaran and Karsite delegation a couple of days before reaching Alqualondë. 

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Nerdanel and Findekáno spend a long time talking. 

 

Then Nerdanel and Fëanáro spend a long time talking.

 


They decide to ride with the Valdemaran and Karsite delegations back to Taniquetil to talk to the Valar.

 

There's a chance that Fëanáro's presence will make everything worse, obviously, she says to Vanyel, but we've decided that the likeliest route to getting the Silmarils back is announcing that we formally offered them to Valdemar and Karse for the defense of their lands from Sauron. And he has to be there for that. And I think he is capable of only saying that. 

Does Telumë have, uh, the support he needs with his prisoner?

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:I'm going straight there, as soon as I'm out of Valinor and can Gate. He's keeping Maitimo unconscious in the meantime, which isn't ideal, but - he's not going to make any decisions on it until I'm there:

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Okay. We understand that he's been put in a difficult situation after deliberately deciding to step out of it because he might make mistakes. If there's support we can offer - not formally as another government with relevant interests here, you could, uh, translate Fëanáro as saying that the effects of diplomatic concerns on the conditions of Maitimo's captivity seem to have mostly been very harmful and caused unnecessary loss of life and harm to the war effort - but as people who, you know, hope they are both all right -

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:Thank you. I'll tell him that and I think it'll mean a lot. I'm - really sorry about everything: Vanyel hesitates and then holds out his arms a little, offering a hug but waiting to see if she'll accept it. 

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Nerdanel says Fëanáro disowned Maitimo?

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:I think his exact words were 'He is not my son. He is Sauron wearing him like a skin. The Noldor have no concern here; Telumë can do whatever he likes.' After we got word the Valar had sent him back to exactly the place he left. I...: He hesitates. :I understand you need to do this first, and thank you so much for your help sorting this mess out, but once you're back - I think Telumë would appreciate your advice on Maitimo. He really wasn't expecting to end up responsible for him again and it's not the pleasant kind of surprise: 

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He takes a deep breath. 

That's - a thing to say. Yes, I'd be happy to talk to Telumë about it once we're back from this. 

 

 

Do you suppose Maitimo was aiming this precisely or just - throwing lots of wood onto every fire he could see -

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:I'm not sure. I mean, I think he must've anticipated the Silmarils being taken away, but - that wasn't hard, honestly, the Valar were already pretty spooked about them. Other than that, I think the dam plot, the various possible outcomes, I think that was more seeding general destruction. Although if we want to know for sure, I suppose we could ask him: 

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Mmhmm. 

 

I would kill him. If it were me. It's Telumë, and I don't even know where to begin giving him advice, but -

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:I'd...been thinking that for a while, honestly. Ever since the attempt on Stef and Jisa. It's just goddamned impossible to keep a lid on him, and - and it's going to cost us resources we can't spare, trying. But I don't know if Telumë is capable of making that call: 

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I think you might be the only person involved who is not way too emotionally entangled.

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:...Gods. Depressing thought. I - would've said I was pretty emotionally entangled - he's my friend. Or was, anyway: Shrug. :I'll see what Telumë says: 

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He heads off with the delegation to the Valar, keeping his distance from Fëanáro.

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When Vanyel finally Gates back to Velgarth, six days after the Valar banished Maitimo, the first thing he does is find Telumë and offer him a hug. "I'm so sorry." 

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"On some level I wish they had dropped him on literally anybody else," Telumë says quietly, an hour later, when they're sitting and talking. "But - also, I do feel responsible for him on some level." He lets out his breath. "I am not going to kill him without ever letting him wake up. It might be the right strategic move but I cannot. I - will not block his ability to kill himself if he wishes, though." 

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