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I predict this will be a self-indulgent shippy meditation on power and responsibility but it's honestly hard to predict these threads
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"Man, they're gonna need - lots of things. Right?"

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"Yeah. I think you can broadly separate most of the problems into the collapse of the church, the removal of material support from Hell, and the resulting power vacuum if Queen Abrogail II is inevitably overthrown. Which is a lot of problems. Being a goddess helps a little, but if she's chaotic good it doesn't help much, since Cheliax doesn't have very many people eligible to be clerics of chaotic good gods. Asmodeus was able to take over because Aroden's clerics were mostly lawful neutral, and were able to metaphorically jump ship. We can't do that with Elizabeth."

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Nod. "How much is Cheliax relying on material support from Hell?"

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"I don't know all of that. I think a lot of it's the military, which Elizabeth could probably substitute for. But before Asmodeus we also didn't have nurseries."

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" - yeah, I don't think anyone else has that."

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"They're one of the reasons that lots of things are so much more doable in Cheliax. Especially for women. It would be really bad to lose them, for a whole lot of people, and - I think it's probably pretty important that you not end up with a bunch of disgruntled people yearning for the good old days of listening to devils."

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"And killing their kids."

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"Cheliax has legalized infanticide. Most of the continent does."

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"Sometimes people get pregnant when they're not ready to raise a baby. Andoran made infanticide illegal and the most obvious consequence besides alignment is that their orphanages are overflowing."

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"Okay, so, uh, we can take all the babies that people don't want to raise."

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"How many of you are there?"

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"Counting orcs, tens of billions. If that's not enough we'll fork."

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"That'd be plenty if people preferred handing their children over to orcs to killing them. I'm not really sure whether they do."

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" - I mean I guess it depends on your orcs? Most orcs on Golarion are chaotic evil, which is a pretty dim option on the whole."

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"I mean if they'd rather we raise them we can do that, just, orcs are crazy about babies and accordingly more numerous. I - guess they're kind of screwed up compared to our species but they're not worse than death."

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"We should meet your orcs. Could be it's a great idea."

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"If they don't work we'll take them instead."

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"Still don't want to lose the nurseries. Be better if nobody who wanted a kid had to decide to give them away."

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"I think I might need more context to understand what the nurseries are for."

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"If a woman has a baby and can't be with it all the time, she can drop it off at a nursery for several hours and pick it up later. Without them, unmarried mothers, widows, and married women who work and don't have stay-at-home family members have a lot fewer options."

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"So the kids get taken care of by...strangers? Is that bad for them?"

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"Possibly? They still spend time with their mothers in the evenings. And they get to interact with other kids, and the nurseries can have better toys and equipment than individual people can afford, for kids who are a little bigger."

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