Annie at the end of all things
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It is going to get harder, though, as computers get better.

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I'd imagine. Is there a plan for dealing with that?

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We've debated coming forward, we've debated announcing immortality if not that we were immortal to start with -

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Some people are surprisingly negative on immortality, I've noticed.

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I bet it's because there aren't immortals around obviously still having meaning and joy in their lives. Not that I'm the person to-

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...I've mostly encountered religious objections, but that too.

Aulë literally told me that Eru had a plan for me which did not involve the Valar making me immortal and this did not cause me to have religious objections to immortality so I don't know know why flimsier commandments are so compelling to some people, but.

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Well, you have more sense than almost everybody.

 

...this is Eru's plan for us?

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I don't know. It could still be the artifact and her plan could have been for me to stay dead. Can't exactly ask the Dean of Analysis back in Drofnfjord.

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I do know what happened to me - what I did - was Eru's plan. Mandos said.

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Well, at least she was kind enough to give me you?

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I don't know that that was her - although if this is Arda maybe worlds can look like this and still have Eru managing them...

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Or she stopped after the invasion of Valinor, which would maybe make it worth it after all.

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Thauron talked a human kingdom into invading Valinor. For the life extension, and also she told them that the Valar could make them all immortal if they pleased, and also there were various other things going on, but - anyway, that's when Eru ate some continents.

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...Eru and the Valar do not have a very well developed sense of moral responsibility, do they.

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Thauron's - out of the picture now, right -

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Dead. 

 

Given the premise that this isn't a hallucination.

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Yep. It was kind of a ridiculous series of events, but - as long as it worked.

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Thauron seduced Celebrendes under an alias and suggested to her they work together on ways to be more powerful than a Vala. Ended up forging magic rings for it. She sabotaged the project, though, so the Vala powers she was handing out secretly made one vulnerable to her mind-control. Celebrendes figured it out, hid the notes and what could be salvaged of the project, Thauron sacked the continent and tortured her to death trying to get the locations, Thauron carried on unimpeded for two thousand years culminating in the sinking of the continents, and was working on becoming a Vala via some abuse of aforementioned rings - basically, she poured all of her magic into it. Then there's a battle in which everyone is being trivially slaughtered, and someone manages to cut her ring finger off and she abruptly loses all her power and vanishes.

 

And then the ring exerts its mind-control on the victor to not get thrown away, and exchanges hands for three thousand years while Thauron slowly regains power, and then ends up in the hands of someone who could resist the mind-control far enough to get to the brink of destroying it, whereupon the mind-control dominated, but then there was a scuffle and the ring went over anyway and Thauron died.

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...oh - poor Celebrendes - what kind of ultimate power leaves you vulnerable to having it chopped off? - who'd you wind up hearing this from, was Lírnith still around at the time - what wound up happening to her anyway -

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