"I know, but they don't think like that, they're too stupid -"

"Are they going to want to punish the orcs too -"

"I have no idea. Possibly not, there is a significant moral difference between being stuck with something you swore as a child and swearing something as a fully knowing adult -"

"It doesn't seem fair to say you were fully knowing."

"Okay, true, but 'hasn't ever heard of anyone other than the Enemy deliberately hurting another person' is a different sort of failure than 'is three, recites what parents say'..."

"Yeah." Sigh.

"I don't know. But it'd sort of surprise me if they wanted to punish orcs. ...if they wanted to just unmake them somehow that wouldn't surprise me at all, but."

"Can orcs do that? You said Elves can't..."

"Orcs can't either. We're the same thing - orcs were bred from Elves -"

Nod.

"Which is why the Valar might be grateful of your help."

"Just maybe not enough to - not stick you in the Halls forever -"

"Maybe not that much. But I also don't have to turn myself in."

Nod.

"I love you and we'll figure it out together."

The twins want to go to war. The twins are fourteen. The twins come find Annie and Lírnith and Rirosseth to tell them.

Well, Annie thinks that sounds like a terrible idea both because they are fourteen and because they are not literally deities.

Yes. 

The literal deities called for people to join them in arms, though.

"The Valar are kind of stupid."

There are hundreds of thousands of humans enslaved in what was once Beleriand and leaving them to the stupid Valar seems like a bad idea.

And do they have a plan to interfere with the Valar being stupid at/about the humans which isn't "show up, be fourteen"?

Fight in the war, become able to influence the Valar? Lhindir did it.

"He was half-Maia."

"Oh, are they also racist on top of everything else?"