Idaia and Imliss in the First Age
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Can't see them if you're going to act on them.

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Can't be circular, becoming able to do a thing because you see yourself doing it?

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Nah, that'd make more sense.

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Could you get a prophecy that lasts a certain amount of time and then set up to waltz in as soon as doing so wouldn't alter the vision?

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...maybe? You don't get to choose to get them.

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Yah, but if he just happened to...

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I guess it's possible.

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I dunno, this is of necessity just wild speculation.

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It's scary that he pulled it off, however he did it.

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Yeah.

I think it was just a Maia or something in his service, not him, for whatever that's worth.

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Good to know, at least.

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Didn't have the Vala staticky thing.

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Good to know. It'd be a bit surprising for him to leave Angband anyway.

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So probably a servant.

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I'm so glad you're okay.

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Nothing we can do about anybody else.

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At some point Idaia goes back to the cartographer to inquire about the nature of scariness.

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Dwarves travel in large caravans and stick to the roads. This means they are not harassed by things, and mostly hear about them from the Elves, and indirectly because Elves are illiterate and do not tend to consider the Dwarves a worthy audience for their travel tales anyway.

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Elves are illiterate?

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Huh.

She knows these other Elves who only arrived on the continent a few decades ago and have as far as she knows never killed any Dwarves and aren't illiterate. It's possible they suck less than the Elves Dwarves are used to.

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How does she know them?

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