"I don't think it's a good idea to vote for just copying Lastwall if we don't even know what Lastwall does." She's pretty sure she disagrees with Lastwall here but it would be kind of a stupid idea to vote for a law like this even if she didn't.

"I think it less likely that Lastwall has a list of prohibited sentences than that the law only provides for a specific whitelist."

"We can say 'not permitted by' instead of 'prohibited by', then. I think your objection is reasonable, Delegate Ferrer, if you don't trust Iomedae, but personally I do. Even if Lastwall is too restrictive, Her church won't be."

"I don't think Lastwall is going to be doing anything super Evil? But I wouldn't — if there were a country where everyone was a Calistrian, I wouldn't want to just copy everything they were doing either, if I didn't know what it was. ...And also Iomedae picked Chosen Artigas as a priest even though he used to be an Asmodean priest who tortured innocent people to death to support Asmodeus, and — I don't know how to explain this well, I can try again if it's confusing — but I don't want to trust that a god who would do that will always do the right thing? And I definitely don't want to just automatically trust her church, when some of the people in her church used to be priests of Asmodeus. And the Lastwall rules might be fine, but I don't want to just assume they definitely are and then be stuck with them for forty years."

"Do... you have any reason to believe that Select Artigas's repentance is less than sincere... that possibly we should know about...?"

She's a Calistrian and doesn't believe in redemption.

Sure but you have to follow up on this sort of thing just in case.

"...I don't... specifically know of him torturing any innocent people to death since Iomedae picked him? But that doesn't mean — if I were a god I wouldn't pick priests who'd tortured any innocent people to death, even if they'd stopped. And it seems like... if Iomedae sometimes thinks the thing to do with people who've tortured innocent people to death for Asmodeus is to pick them as priests... there are probably other things where we'd also disagree on the right punishment? And I still don't understand why she'd choose someone like him so I don't know whether we'll have small disagreements or big disagreements."

“I talked to Select Artigas, first day of the convention, and I saw him do a healing channel.” 

"I'm not saying he's lying about being a priest of Iomedae, if he were just lying it wouldn't make me trust Iomedae less."

"If I had heard any misconduct complaints about Select Artigas they might be confidential so I won't claim not to have done so, but I believe he is a genuine Select doing his utmost to serve Iomedae, and that this implies he is not going to torture people, because torturing people is Evil."

"I'm not saying I think he'd go torture innocent people? I'm just saying that I don't want to trust that Iomedae is always right about everything."

"Because She won't allow torturing people enough to suit you?"

"I don't know how much torturing people she allows? Maybe if we check it'll turn out it's the right amount. But, uh, in this case the problem is that she's allowing too much torturing people. By picking someone... who tortured people." Victòria really doesn't think this is very complicated.

“I wouldn’t think a Chosen ever would be turned to good, but before the convention I’d have said the same thing about a lawyer. Heaven is good at taking evil people and turning them good, I think, better than I expected.”

“Agree that it’d be better to know what Lastwall does instead of just trusting. But I trust them—“

The rest of that sentence, ‘more than what the other committee will come up with if they win the race’ is saying bad things about people. He almost didn’t catch himself Before he said it.

"Avenger, She isn't allowing any torturing people at all. He isn't torturing any people."

He nods along with the paladin.

"I don't see how the fact that he's stopped now changes whether I should trust the Lastwall rules are good when I don't even know what they are? I'm not saying — I know we're not allowed to punish people for things they did before the amnesty." At least not legally. 

Enric hopes that Iomedae doesn’t allow any torture, but also remembers how no one agrees what that word means. He’s heard that in Iomedae’s country, demon cultists are burned at the stake. He doesn’t think that’s true, but isn’t sure.

"I trust Iomedae," in some specific areas, "But I'm also not sure that we can pass a law if we don't know what it means. How are people supposed to follow it?"

“Is there a way to learn what Lastwall does before the committee ends? Send someone to find someone from there? Or a book?”

"Some of the other paladins are from there, I can go ask one to step in."

"That's probably best. We can wait a few minutes."

Off Angela goes to find a Lastwaller.

And a few minutes later, a somewhat Galtan-looking male paladin arrives.

"Ser Jornet said you wanted a summary of the punishments used in Lastwall?"