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"No, lots of things are also boring. All people are less interesting than the most interesting things."

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"I'll try to contain my disappointment."

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"You make some interesting things. It's not that you don't create any interest in the world."

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Snort.

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"How do I practice at perspective-taking?"

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"Who do you think might be easy to figure out?"

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"I want to do Mahtan."

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"...Okay, why not. So when you wrote stories before the main character was you and you were able to put in lots of detail about what was going on in story-you's head. What if you were writing a book about Mahtan?"

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"He has three children who are very close together, only six years apart between the oldest two and then eight for the next one. Maybe he's tired all the time; I would be."

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"Could be; are you only guessing that because you would be if you had three closely-spaced children?"

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"I guess. Children are tiring for their parents. At least I am, and there's only ever going to be one of me."

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"Somehow we are no longer talking about Mahtan."

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"I don't know anything else about him."

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"...Then he is not particularly good practice for this exercise, is he?"

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"I know as much about him as I know about most people, it's just that I don't know many things about people. You?"

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"Sure, I'll even be able to confirm or deny guesses without just making more guesses."

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"I don't know what I want to know about you."

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"I haven't done anything confusing lately?"

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"You pretty much make sense. Except when you're scared and then I get why even though it's not what I'd feel."

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"Well, that's a start, how do you go about getting why?"

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"You're from a scary world where Kings can have you killed and dragons can eat you and the Valar might squish you if you're rude. So part of you thinks you're still there."

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"I don't think I'm there," she says. "I think, that's how things work. That's just how it is when there are kings and gods around. It'd take you a long time to get used to a world where things fell up."

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"Lots of people aren't used to Valinor. My father thinks it's just how things work that if someone leaves the room alone they're dead now. Rúmil thinks lots of scary things though he mostly acts normal because he has lots he wants to do and can't stop to wonder at everything falling up."

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"I didn't know that about Rúmil."

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"You didn't?"

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