"Yes, there's a lot of light during the daytime, but even in full daylight I wouldn't be able to see that far."

"No, I mean, Eru had to design us to function by the light of the stars alone. That's probably why we have better eyes."

"Perhaps. Well, that and Asgardians were not designed for anything in particular. You may have all sorts of convenient advantages like that which make more sense for your origins than ours."

"For example, we can't have children by accident, which is incidentally horrifying, we come back if we die, we can design our form to some degree - yeah, it does seem sort of like you were less planned out. No offense."

"None taken."

"Do the Asgardian warriors take down Powers, much? Because it'd be nice to know how that's done."

"Powers being?"

"The Ainur, we call them, the Valar and the lesser beings of the same type, everyone who's entirely spirit except if inclined to adopt a physical form, as old as the universe, that sort of thing."

"I've never personally faced off with anything of that genre. I'm sure it's been done but I can't look up any histories from here."

"It is potentially hazardous to give a captive tools and supplies."

"...right. Do you have any solutions on that front, other than 'ignore the fuck out of them', which is probably what we're going to end up doing if we can survive without them, or 'meekly beg them to let us join again', which - well, you haven't met my other brother Turvo yet, but his wife died on the way here and I am quite sure he'll choose to die rather than make nice with the people who did this..."

"Findekáno seems to think that if I operate through Maitimo I can convert healing magic into diplomacy. Whether it will be enough I don't know. If someone wants to die such as dying is for elves, and take their chances with the Valar's questionable judgment, and see their loved ones again that way, well. I have no grounds to try to interfere."

"He suggested that? Wow. Good for him. Yeah, it's worth a shot."

"He didn't seem thrilled with the prospect but I suspect almost no one is going to wind up thrilled with any result."

"Fëanor's getting everything he wants."

"I hope he has not considered the events thus far ideal."

"He was pretty broken up over the murder of his father."

"So, he is not getting everything he wants, because if his father reappears again it will be in Valinor, where Fëanor will not be able to interact with him."

"That's not compromise, though, because it's nothing to do with us." She shakes her head. "It's a good idea. It's the best one anyone has. I'm just bitter."

Nod.

"And sometimes I think, you know, if people'd stood up to him earlier, instead of always taking the higher ground, maybe he wouldn't be like this in the first place."

"That's possible. Of course, if we're talking about the 'first place' I may start opining on the practices of the Valar. Or their creator."

"We're not making them sound very good, are we? They're ...they don't know how to be kind, but they want good things for us. Everyone you talk to is just reeling from the Doom, it doesn't give you a particularly nuanced perspective."

"Beings as powerful as they are made out to be should not require much nuance to sound good."