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Loki is not technically banished. This is just - giving her mother space. To think. About what to do with her wayward child. She will be called back in a few years for a more permanent decision. Midgard's nice enough, anyway, and Sigyn's coming along.
The Bifrost lights up in all its colors and -
- this might be Midgard, but it is not a part of Midgard she ever saw and not the place she was expecting to be dropped, and there is no Sigyn with her.
She holds Lævateinn ready as a glaive. Maybe her mother feared her sorcery and thought she'd best be sent somewhere deadly under the impression she was meant to survive the trip -
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Loki starts writing this down. It's a good plan, or at least sounds like that to me. Pity I can't fly off and carry it out for you, it hinges on it being you personally a bit. And yes, although it's actually considered an obscure branch of economics and its applications in warfare are usually not laid out so explicitly when we're studying strategy. I just liked economics.
My little brother Moryo all but invented it as a field of study back home, you two should compare notes. Or approaches. And I don't have any advice about how you can win the war, 'persuade X person that Y is in their interest' is as granular as I actually plan, and then I don't have trouble doing it, and I don't know how to teach that as a skill. How do I fly faster?
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She speeds up and copies him on the feel of it. I haven't actually seen much use of currency. Someone said Dwarves were 'obsessed with money' and I saw what might have been gambling for gemstones once; otherwise no sign of it.
We don't use it, except for large shipments of raw materials where the usual games of Valinor's reputation economy don't work well. That might have changed here. Nothing was scarce in Valinor except desirable locations and original artwork. I'd expect Moryo's working full time on figuring out what's sensible here.
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I'll talk to him about econ like I talked to your cousins about chemistry and the dwarves about metallurgy, then, and I'll have fewer gaps.
Thank you.
Your Findekáno isn't very realistic.
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I'll tell him you said that. 'Findekáno, your boyfriend or whatever thinks you aren't very realistic.' 'Here are my conflicted feelings about that. I have six of them.'
'boyfriend or whatever'?
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Like I said, I haven't been able to figure it out by observation and haven't got a good enough excuse to ask him and don't expect you to tell me.
Romantic relationships are between men and women; marriage, which Eru sanctifies, certainly is. The Valar were horrified when we got to Valinor to realize we hadn't innately known that, beside Cuivienen.
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Well, you know - fuck the Valar. Except don't, I bet they're terrible in bed, says Loki. I wonder if anyone told the locals; Lúthien had to tell her father that she 'wasn't going to have me braiding her hair' and I hadn't even been flirting with her, I've been very good about that.
I've never met anyone who hated the Valar more than my father. It's generous-spirited of you. Anyway, they might have been right about that one. I hurt Findekáno very badly and have no path to stop doing it.
If Elwë married a Maia then I'm sure Lúthien knows Eru's teachings as much as they're knowable. Though if said Maia married an Elf, perhaps not. I don't think that's a proper romantic relationship either.
If Elwë married a Maia then I'm sure Lúthien knows Eru's teachings as much as they're knowable. Though if said Maia married an Elf, perhaps not. I don't think that's a proper romantic relationship either.
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People who prefer the opposite sex can have romantic drama too; I don't think you can blame anything about your current troubles on that. I will file this information under 'reasons not to flirt with Lúthien, number forty-eight' anyway.
At least if you slip up you won't end up married to her. And my parents had a very messy separation; I still don't think either of them dealt with each other as unjustly as I've done.
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This is the second time I've heard the possibility of accidentally getting married come up and the first time anyone has mentioned to me that Fëanor must of course have gotten all his sons from somewhere.
My mother's name is Nerdanel, and she has a particular gift for sculpture; she can make rock so convincingly imitate life that people've been known to walk up to her sculptures and start speaking with them. Though she prefers abstract work, usually. She is one of the most talented artists in Aman in her own right. Her father is Mahtan, of the Aulendil, the acolytes of Aulë in Valinor, and they met when she was forty-four and my father was forty and he was doing an apprenticeship and his examinations in metalworking. He was not the best in the world yet but he obviously had the makings of it. They travelled the whole continent together, they'd climb the Pelori - the mountains that ring Valinor - and look for a way out, and they married very very young by the standards of our people. When I was young they were happy.
She did not accompany us into exile. She'd been trying to get the Valar's permission to let us leave, but they think so slowly and he ran out of patience.
She did not accompany us into exile. She'd been trying to get the Valar's permission to let us leave, but they think so slowly and he ran out of patience.
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All that power and they can't use it to hurry up. ...Wait, how does a Quendi mistake a sculpture for a person when you can see heat, did she tuck little braziers into the sculptures or what?
Angle it exactly right against the Trees, use different types of stone which absorb heat differently, and then there'll be a specific point in the day where it has the same appearance as a living person. She could stretch that point out for hours with sufficient cleverness about materials and angles, and rather delighted in doing so.
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Oh, that's very cunning! Pause. Please explain how people can get married by accident, because that is actually really worrying.
So we can tell when another Elf is married; it creates a new osanwë bond, with much much more distance, and it's visible in the spirit sense if you know how to see souls. This is because marriage is the binding of two souls, technically; that's why it outlasts the death of the parties.
The marriage ceremony is to speak the name of Ilúvatar and ask him to bind you, and then to lie together. The custom is to have an announced engagement at least a year before the wedding, and to spend that year apart to really be sure that's what you want. But besides Cuivienen we didn't know about Eru and pairs just married by sleeping together, or in some communities by conceiving a child together. So - you don't sleep with anyone, you certainly won't get married. Or if you sleep with another man - or woman, in your case - there is no chance of being married. No one is quite clear on what happens if you sleep together but don't say the name, but maybe think it, or say it blasphemously, or anything else. But I have known people who were unattached one day, left a party with a lover, and the next day announced an engagement that everyone could see in their soul was not in fact an engagement.
I expect you'd be fine; you can't make oaths in the first place, so you probably can't marry, marriage being a specific kind of oath.
The marriage ceremony is to speak the name of Ilúvatar and ask him to bind you, and then to lie together. The custom is to have an announced engagement at least a year before the wedding, and to spend that year apart to really be sure that's what you want. But besides Cuivienen we didn't know about Eru and pairs just married by sleeping together, or in some communities by conceiving a child together. So - you don't sleep with anyone, you certainly won't get married. Or if you sleep with another man - or woman, in your case - there is no chance of being married. No one is quite clear on what happens if you sleep together but don't say the name, but maybe think it, or say it blasphemously, or anything else. But I have known people who were unattached one day, left a party with a lover, and the next day announced an engagement that everyone could see in their soul was not in fact an engagement.
I expect you'd be fine; you can't make oaths in the first place, so you probably can't marry, marriage being a specific kind of oath.
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I'd better not risk it anyway. Of all the silliest reasons to wish my friend and I had both landed in the same place... Well, he'd probably laugh. Still, I find that approximately as dismaying as everyone else seems to find accidental children. At least in principle if you have an accidental child you can find someone else who might want it. No such luck if you wander off for a little fun and wind up with permanent soul grafts!
In your world people can sleep together without marrying?
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Yes. I have no idea how many people I'd be married to at this point if we couldn't. Let alone Sigyn, my friend - or Fandral, stars, she'd be more marriage than soul.