I really like the way you project. It's very reassuring. If I'd met you when I was in doubt about reality I'd have found you quite inimitable. But - yeah. Not for that, probably. Do we know if the whole planet's evil or just Irisse's husband and me and maybe my family?

The whole planet seems eviler, in sort of a background radiation way, compared to what Elspeth has picked up. It is not inconceivable that this is a small number of disproportionate influences, but some of them are, like, probably the Valar. (She has decided not to try to get a Vala to remove her parents' honeymoon. It would complicate her and Addy keeping each other updated.)

That is very worrying. What are we going to do with all of them  - what are we going to do with an evil version of my father, particularly if he hasn't actually done anything evil...

Well, they're making up an interdimensional criminal code anyway, being evil could be illegal all by itself or something, although then they have to rigorously define it instead of tossing it around as a descriptor in lieu of a nickname. As for what to do if the Fëanáro is evil Elspeth does not know.

Kill him one way or another, oath or Tesseract...

Death by oath is optionally reversible if they have another idea later, via Aether-imposed free will.

My version of my father'd refuse, though, no question. Offer him death or a mind-altering oath and he'd say 'tell my children I love them and make it fast enough you can pat yourself on the back later for how humane you were'.

Well, this doesn't actually seem like an unreasonable policy when dealing with hostile parties who are prepared to kill you, but it is sort of discouraging from the hostile party perspective.

Yeah. I couldn't persuade him. Doubt my evil alt could, either.

Do they even have a good evilness-evaluation plan for the live alts-of-relevant people? Like, she met Tyelcormo only briefly, he was not overtly evil at the time if one is slightly charitable about bloodthirstiness towards those who had harmed his (non-evil) friend, how would they go about checking in more detail.

I'm good at people. I sort of think I'll know. But it makes me queasy to go around sizing people up for whether we execute them for being, well, normal, in a world where normal was pretty awful.

It could just be a condition of travel outside of the world. Quarantine the place. Doesn't work for anyone who will react to that by inventing interdimensional transit, but...

No one except my father will do that.

So they have to special case his dad's template, but otherwise there is not necessarily any call to run the entire world through a sieve.

Maybe people who want to go off-dimension can petition.

And have to be vetted by a Maitimo or Maggie-or-Dad or oathed into being well-behaved tourists or just accompanied.

That works. And my alt can't leave.

If Maedhros thinks Evil Maitimo could pass the vetting they might need to snug the vetting.

Well, he's not currently doing anything evil, regrets evil things he did, and would happily swear anything. I can imagine vetting that'd be quite reasonable but would let him out.

If he happily swore some adequate something... still no?

(Addy isn't going anywhere but that is because Addy can copy magic and might be able to copy something from offworld that wrecked the delicate balance keeping her in line. And she can't swear oaths.)

The thing is that even if he swears his whole mind over to be exactly mine, something could give him free will - and I am not actually sure it'll take additional exertion on his part for his Findekano to come back to him - his Findekano would genuinely feel happier and more secure if I'd take him to bed, he'll happily agree that his Maitimo's evil but he also thinks his Maitimo's the only person to whom he is not interchangeable -

He's not interchangeable to Elspeth either!

That's good of you. If you have projects he's uniquely suited to that'd help a lot.

Unfortunately she is not dispositionally a projects person most of the time. Reasonableizing the Valar was a project but it is over now. They are all reasonable. Also she could not have meaningfully benefited from help with that.

Yeah. I've been giving him work on our projects, and it's all valuable and meaningful work that'll enhance galactic standards of living, but he's not uniquely suited to it and not going to be, and I think for a while I can obviate that by having him save more people here than he could back home - but he'd rather be back home, and he's made it quite clear how I'd change his preference to go home, and -

- I loathe my alt.