It's hours later when Loki and Cam bring Bella, Elspeth, and Jake to Vanda Nossëo and make it known to whom it may concern that they're here, news is available about the newest Arda and its adjacent world-with-a-Bell-in-it, and someone needs to relay Elspeth the spell symbols because Golden can't let mind-affecting powers including osanwë through her shield unless she trusts whoever is using them. And Elspeth wants to know if the non-evil Maitimo who was so upset is okay now.
"I'm missing all the childhood stuff, and it's not just not being from an Earth, in translation Iobel's birthplace has a suspiciously similar name to the town Cam and Bella are from."
"So you seem to come in various genders, backstories, and families, and we seem to come in 'space' and 'not'. And 'rapist'."
"...similarly to not wanting to meet an evil Fëanor I do not want to meet an evil Bell."
"If the Valar hadn't happened to mention it I think the evil version of me could have leveraged the trust the non-evil versions earned a long way - certainly into getting free will and getting his father back - and if he pieced together at that point that we weren't all like him he might have been able to manage it a while longer."
He buries his head in his hands. "I could persuade his Findekáno not to object but I suppose that's a very very bad idea."
"Yeah. I - just - do not want to live in a multiverse with him in it, it's as bad as knowing there are still Thaurons about."
"According to Thuringwethil he used to be nice enough but I'm not sure her opinion is worth the paper I didn't bother printing it on."
"Problem with checking whether the Enemy's still evil is that apparently, given warning, he can run away."
"I might be able to hold him given the knowledge that I knew I had to be doing that - in Edda-adjacent worlds, anyway - but I'm not positive - may depend on how exactly it is they moved and I don't know if even a reasonable-ized Vala would want me to perform the experiment -"
"I don't do mind control unless I'm pretty much hitting somebody hard enough to kill them."
"I take a pretty dim view of mind control. There's a couple witches who manipulate emotions left alive - one of them can't turn it off but she's got a pretty sharp range limit, other one uses it to wrangle newborn vampires because they're pretty out of control and dangerous."
"It was a favored tactic of the Enemy. He can't directly control minds but he can coerce oaths or he can tamper with memories at will and then run you through scenarios until he gets a result he likes, and it often came out to nearly the same."