She is waiting when he gets back. "Do you stop having a body when you do that or does it just go somewhere else?"

"...Did you not touch it?"

"We asked the - person in charge of the Elves - and he said we should ask Ulmo first and Ulmo has not said anything yet so no one touched it."

"Ulmo?"

"Ulmo is the - I don't have the words - sometimes if you ask the ocean a question Ulmo answers and it is a good answer but sometimes he is far and does not answer and right now probably he is far."

"...Ulmo is the ocean?"

"Ulmo is the...ocean's parent?"

"The ocean has parents?"

"Yes. If no parents how would there be an ocean."

"...rain?" says Nelen uncertainly.

She looks equally uncertain. "Ulmo is...like Melkor. Both of them can do very much, both of them have been since the beginning of the world, both of them parent the world. There are others too. They live on a star far away."

"- okay."

"Anyway I wanted to touch it but if Círdan says ask Ulmo, then I do a different thing, my mother say Faervel what a bad example you should not live in the city..."

"...then what?"

"...then I fight with my mother I guess?"

"Does Círdan do anything?"

"If it costs - things - to fix what I did then I have to give the things, if someone is hurt I have to say sorry, if I do not understand why I should not have then people talk to me so I understand. Círdan probably not talk to me unless I do something very bad."

"Things - uh - money? Money is - someone gives money and gets rice or shoes or something?"

"Yes. If it costs money a mistake I made then I give money for it."

Nelen nods.

"Touching the thing not cost money probably but still."

"It doesn't hurt me. I think. I don't know about you."

"Are you the only - thing - it works for?"

"No - I dropped something through, and it was fine, and my clothes come - no other people have tried it."

"They could come if they want."