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If I came back after you were married I would have coped! I would have been fine if you were straight, too! It's wanting something just in reach that brings out, well, everything in me.

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Are there other examples?

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The minute it occurred to me that I might not have to choose after all between power and a personal life - and it took it a very long time to occur to me - I wanted it so intensely, and brought it about so carefully...

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Was it much of a choice when you thought it had to be one?

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I was going to be King.

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That was my guess. Well, lucky you, you get both.

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I did! It's lovely!!

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Were you at least going to be King and then leverage your kingly power into being able to have a personal life eventually, it's a little tragic to think about otherwise.

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...maybe eventually? It wasn't in the first thousand things I wanted to do with power, and - at the time I had some mixed-up thinking about the whole thing - it took me a very long time to stop believing it was an insult to people to want them, and certainly to have them...

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...that's a really challenging mindset for me to imagine inhabiting so I can't envision how you got out of it.

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Findekáno, obviously. All my intractable errors of judgment tend to be in situations where his instincts are better suited.

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The thing where he teased you relentlessly?

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I tried to imagine how he'd react if I explained to him that I respected him far too much to take him to my bed and my mental model of him was very good and kept slapping me.

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- Kib snorts.

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So then I tried to reconstruct the reasoning - I know people in the sense of knowing what they'll do much faster than I can identify what's motivating them - and that got me - part of the way, as far as 'wanting someone is not inherently incompatible with respect for him, any more than making a specific gesture at him, just made so incompatible by cultural context - and then I could rather disentangle it from there. It didn't help me that I found something appealing about it even when I thought it was deeply disrespectful...

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I may or may not flatter myself to think that I could have reasoned my way out of a social taboo without help.

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You could have. Findekáno did. I have no particular advantage at moral reasoning and take people and their motives and their status games much, much deeper to heart than either of you. And I still might have, eventually, but it was a very Elf-paced questioning.

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D'you know how he did it or should I just ask him?

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I don't know, actually. Worried there are other taboos you might be failing to notice?

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Not especially, just curious. I am occasionally curious.

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You are! It is adorable! You are welcome to quiz him on it. Well, not that my permission'd really be relevant, but.

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Are you sure? It seems non-negligibly likely that this conversation will involve making fun of you.

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Then I will throw you both in the dungeons for it!

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Tempted to ask what your plan is for getting around my warservant, concerned you may have one.

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