He goes even stiller, for even longer, than Melian.

I always thought bringing them to Valinor in the first place was a bad idea.

Well, Valinor sounded mostly pretty nice to her, but in a way that compensated for the Valar sticking around after designing the place more than anything else.

I don't think most Elves feel that way about it at all.

Unfortunately the quality of her explanations is limited by what she has stored, and she only has snippets of osanwëd elf memories, so if Elves are weird in some way she cannot necessarily account for that.

You would expect most people of the kind you understand to resent the Valar and regard them as a downside to life in Valinor?

Maybe not if they were very conservative and obedient by inclination. But any substantial population not selected for that yeah there'd be problems.

That is useful to know. I will go try to explain it to my brethren.

Would he like her to come along? She does like explaining things and wasn't particularly doing anything important in Doriath.

Will you disrupt the peace of Valinor?

She has to be about yea provoked (and about yea unsupervised by deities) to disturb the peace of anything. However, she does think pretty loud and contains concepts and images potentially unsuitable for children or Valian Elves.

I can take you to the Valar without bothering any Elves.

Then she is pretty unlikely to disturb the peace of Valinor.

Then the waves will rush up around them and she is standing on a different shore. It is strewn with gemstones. Ulmo joins her. I hate leaving the water, he says gloomily. This is a hundred miles south of Alqualonde, the Elven coastal city. Am I doing better at explaining things incarnates want to know?

She didn't really meet him before, but it is in fact kind of reassuringly conversational that he remarked on not liking to leave the water and she does like having an idea where they are!

The fastest way to get inland from here is flying! I think incarnates find it upsetting but I do know how to keep speed, noise, and temperature within their tolerances. We could also walk. Walking with me will be much faster than usual.

Flying actually sounds like lots of fun to Elspeth, and if it's not fun it will at least be educational. She has the following speed/noise/temperature tolerances.

Then they will fly! At eighty percent of her tolerances! For Taniquetil! It will not take long.

Whee!

If they were going slower they could appreciate the scenery; it's lovely. Instead they reach Taniquetil and Ulmo says gravely, Elspeth has a magic that allows her to explain incarnates.

She does! She has that. She can repeat what she gave Ulmo or they could ask her about something else or she could just sort of firehose Incarnates: The Concept at them.

They want to know why incarnates don't always do Eru's will even when they understand it.

Oh boy has she got information on that. Not so much Eru in particular but she's got lots of people sincerely believing in Earth religions - or obliged to pretend - or wracked with doubt - wrestling with temptations and beating their heads against theological debate and drowning in why why why and forgetting their laws their vows their convictions in a moment's excitement or lust or confusion -

This is so helpful. She has fourteen Valar positively glowing at her, which regrettably feels like more static and air pressure.

Well, that's kind of uncomfortable but she assumes they can't help it.

They can't! Containing themselves in incarnate forms: really hard. Does she know why Elves want their loved ones back from Mandos even if it is not the proper time.