Dec 15, 2018 7:02 PM
in color amentans meet hazel
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"And if we figure out hybrids then it'll be a good thing having found humans."

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"How's that going?"

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"Rumored promising enough that if you have awful springs you're being encouraged to wait a year? But no one's published a paper yet, so I don't know why they're that optimistic."

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"Mine aren't awful. Not that I have a permission lined up or could realistically get one this year, Grandmother doesn't let anybody who's not acceptably married get in on a clan permission. Too easy to cut and run once you have it."

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"My parents had an awful time. I'm okay, but - if I could have kids who'd just want two that'd be the easiest decision of my life."

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Nod.

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And he gets back to work.

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"So the, hm, not the fundamental problem with the idea of casteing humans but a severe limitation on the execution of the idea, is that all a government can offer is the legal status of being in a caste, and the legalities are entirely in the form of limitations. All the benefits are things they're hoping will happen naturally, which might not or might take generations or might just in our case be outweighed by the drawbacks, which are all they can actually offer."

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"The legal part isn't all drawbacks - I really do think there's a case for customizing legal systems culturally, and for access to various community and educational resources. But you're right that it - mostly is, at least until kids can be raised in the culture. The ex-reds were really happy with it."

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"There aren't yet important caste-divided cultural variations in humans, so, the legal part is all drawbacks. If you wanted to do that for humans it'd be by religion or something."

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"We considered it but the religions aren't true so we kind of don't want to enshrine them in law like that. I suppose castes aren't any truer."

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"They really aren't."

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"They are at least not actively false."

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"But most religions, you can convert if you want."

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"There should be more flexibility. I think it'll happen naturally, with planets, you just need one casteless one you can swap in and out of."

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"We're working on Mars and have no timetable on more."

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"Yeah. But there are a lot of ships out looking and a potion for springs expands the options dramatically."

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"Anyway, you shouldn't have to move to another planet to go from being a sweep to being a doctor."

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"There being some barriers to entry is good, you want to preserve solidarity and expectations of stability and so on."

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"Religions have those."

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"I would be delighted to have a process for people to convert to castes. Maybe Nertel can magic up a justification for it."

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"Heh. That'd be neat."

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"But in the meantime having to swap to neutral planet and back seems like it mostly just filters for people who really want it and are willing to go to some effort, and that wouldn't be a terrible way to draw the line."

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"If that's what works for Amentans, fine. Casteing humans in the first place is dumb."

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"Not allowing humans into castes also seems dumb, and if we allow them we're expecting lots of them to choose it."

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