"It, uh, doesn't prevent that. Should I perhaps add an extra precautionary layer to this person in particular?"

"Thauron. It would be good if he were actually just unable to take actions or something, he's really good at finding ways to hurt people and you don't want to keep adding patches."

"Unable to take actions seems drastic. I could just put him Downside very far away from anyone?"

"I don't think I understand how Downside works well enough to evaluate them but I am not completely sure of the safety of any sentients he'd in any way have the opportunity to interact with."

"Well, I meant something like many astronomical units away from the population so it would be necessary to teleport to visit him if for some reason anyone wished to do that."

"That should work temporarily, assuming brainphone doesn't have that kind of range. He has in the past waited several thousand years for suspicion to blow over before doing things, so I'm not inclined to say he wouldn't just patiently start Maia-ing in your direction, but at least it'd take him a while."

"Brainphone has the range but I don't see why anyone would add him to the network and it has a block function. Maia-ing in our direction?"

"Travelling at whatever their top speed is. And people might, you know, in a couple hundred years, not know the name or want something he can offer them or be intrigued for historical reasons."

"I suppose we can leave him in the catacombs to be addressed later when we get around to other people who are that dangerous. Anyone else you want to single out for that?"

"No one else known to me personally. Other prisoners of Angband might have suggestions."

"Do these people work quickly enough that it would be ill-advised to give the prisoners an opportunity to decompress before attempting to poll them?"

"No, you're probably safe. The Maiar tend to respond very poorly to surprises and won't be in top form."

"Okay, so we can catacomb Thauron and address any other problem Maiar later on - one moment -" She vanishes very briefly, then comes back. "Done."

"Thank you. I can't think of other things that'll immediately go wrong under a permanent nonconsensual violence ban."

"So next is the dead people. I don't know what we'll be able to do about the ones who aren't just disembodied on a perfectly accessible continent - outright afterlives are somewhat tricky - and separately it's probably the best policy to avoid provoking Mandos if possible, but if some of the dead are so convenient as to be brainphoneable it seems unlikely that they're actually difficult to reembody by wish."

"Mandos will in fact be provoked, but he put up with an evil god on this continent for a really long time and doesn't seem likely to be moved to action by losing all his dead. Not an impossibility but not a likelihood. Some of them he'll reembody pretty soon, you could try just doing the Doomed."

"What about the orcs?"

"The oaths mean they cannot be reembodied. He might refuse to reembody them even with the oaths fixed but perhaps he'll show some character for once; hard to predict. I expect he'd take less offense at having them snatched from him, he might even be relieved."

"So we should maybe test better-scalable de-oathing methods than my daughter and nieceoid. Perhaps not on an orc."

"What's the failure of testing? And you can de-oath me again now that I don't need commitments to keep secrets under torture."

"There's not really a failure mode of the test, it'll work as designed or the wish won't go, but going and picking out an orc would involve a lot of tedious explanations or Elspeth. Who is lovely but not necessarily good at moderating how much information she gives a random orc."

"Ah, all right. Well, you have a test subject. I won't swear the mind-altering oaths but I'm happy to swear things for a few tries."

"I wouldn't dream of asking you to swear a mind-altering oath." She starts going through progressively pointier coins, the smaller ones in a feather pattern like her wings and the larger more colorful, until she manages one that can remove his oath.

"So then what'll it take to remove all orc oaths?"

"A hex to do one means a star to do a batch means an evil to do a large batch." She produces one. Its colors shift. It is very evilly pointy.