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Celegorm opens a door and finds himself looking, not into a guest room, but into a bar.
It is not plausible that someone turned this room into a bar, both because it's not a very Noldorin bar and because the room is too big; he built this fortress, he would know.
And, Huan says, it's very powerful magic and it smells of somewhere very far away.
Noted.
He walks in. Worrying about the Doom would be overthinking it. He hopes.
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Erik's family were wonderful, when he had them. And I had Raven, which it seems like her father didn't.
It would be lovely if we happened to meet again when that happened, but I'm glad for your sake and hers regardless.
You know, when you go around saying things like that you make it much harder to believe you're not a good person.
hastyriser
I don't believe in goodness. Like, I want to bring back all the dead everywhere, so I'm gonna do that, but if I meet someone else I'm not gonna say 'didn't you realize that what you ought to be doing is bringing back all the dead everywhere? It's the right thing to do'.
hastyriser
The being bossy, maybe not, but the thinking in terms of 'ought' - a good person basically has to. If it turned out to be wrong to bring back all the dead everywhere, I'd still do it.
Or, it came up with your daughter, our gods take issue with men sleeping with men. As far as I know they haven't got a reason beyond 'it's Wrong' but even if they did, even if they count more than us so that doing whatever they want really is the right thing to do, I'd still tell them to fuck off. It's like - Odette's goals are basically the same as my family's goals, but she's not a Feanorian. She wants what we mostly want but if that changed, her loyalty is to her. I am not Good. I want basically what Good wants but if that ever changes, my loyalty isn't with Good.
I think you have a different idea of Good than I'm used to, but that seems like a sensible way of doing things.
I think you might be underestimating your ability to influence what she wants, though.
hastyriser
She doesn't think that my loyalties are stupid, or that they'll ever stop mattering to me the way they do. And I think she'd stick with us as much as she possibly could even if things got really bad. We couldn't make it work, otherwise, I don't do well if I feel like I'm being judged or expected to improve.
But if some idiot goes and claims a Silmaril she's not gonna take on 'kill him' as her mission.
hastyriser
My father had a really hard time after his father was murdered - was murdered basically to get his attention - and he needed us and I do not regret being what he needed and I am happy that he could accept our help in that way but we all bindingly swore to retrieve his greatest creation from the Enemy and anyone else who withheld them.
hastyriser
Oath is to kill anyone who knowingly withholds a Silmaril. If we can get the Silmaril back then they're no longer technically withholding it and we don't have to kill them, though.
I trust you won't actually object if she retrieves one of these without killing the relevant person.
hastyriser
When we swore it the Enemy held them all and he still does. I doubt anyone'll get a hold of them before we pry them out of his metaphorically cold dead hands, but it's only him we want dead.