"Voa keeps it lowest, I think."

"Voa seems to have a really good track record, with one glaring exception."

"I've only been there once."

"The two-per-family baby model kind of seems like the most humane thing to do, under the circumstances."

"They seem happy." She sighs.

"Planets are in sight now, and it's not too late anymore. You'll get there."

Nod. "Anyway. With magic I don't need a large grant to support my husband and myself and our friend on a tropical island, is my understanding. I could take my contract exit without being in poverty."

"Yeah."

Sigh.

"Yvalta's House system does not seem like the best way to run a country."

"Is there nowhere like it on your planet?"

"There might conceivably be, I am not familiar with every single polity on my home planet, but also we have not reached the point of needing population controls."

"That must be nice."

"Yeah--we want children, but not babies in particular, which means unfettered our population grows a lot slower--like, I have exactly one sibling and this is not because my parents lacked the opportunity to have more."

"That must help a lot."

"I imagine so, yes."

"How hard is - de-aging -"

"I've done it and I'm only three-quarters of the way through my biology degree?"

"I'm a botanist, is that applicable?"

"To some extent? We can do it if you can't."

"That doesn't scale, you doing everything."

"I know but we don't want de-aging to scale until there are planets so I'm not worrying about scaling it until closer to then."

She nods.

"Anyway, if that's something you're interested in we can make sure you learn it."

"Thank you."