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"How old are you?"

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"I don't know exactly. Edie and I were summoned in 1961, but we didn't exactly count the years before that."

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"Ballpark?"

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"About five hundred?"

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"We're fairly young for demons."

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"I guess. Did you talk much to the other demons or the dead people while you were still in Hell?"

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"Getting near the dead people would have required going anywhere near the kinds of demons who have a vested interest in Hell continuing to contain dead people."

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Nod. "What about the other demons who weren't with the dead people, then?"

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"We weren't hermits but we didn't really form relationships with anyone besides each other."

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"Is there like... a society?"

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"...Nothing as complex as any human culture, but not nothing."

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"Why isn't it complex?"

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"Because there aren't as many of us."

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Nod, nod. "But you do all live forever so you would have lots of time to do culture things... and even little towns can have cultures..."

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"I mean, I did say it's not nothing. But you also have the confounding factor of--I'm only referring to the circles I moved in, you understand, I don't know much about anyone else--the confounding factor of trying to stay as far away as possible from anyone whose attention you might regret attracting, and part of that means getting summoned as often as possible and part of that means specifically avoiding doing things that would be too conspicuous."

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"How do you try to get summoned?"

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"Pay attention to any summons general enough to plausibly refer to you and grab it before someone else does."

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"What does that feel like?"

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"Um...I can try to tell you through metaphor what the mental process for grabbing one is like but words really don't exist in any human language for the sensations."

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"I'd still like the metaphor."

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"So it's sort of...like a lot of little portals, at the edge of your consciousness, and most of the time you don't pay any attention to them because none of them are for you know matter how loosely you interpret them, so they're like--glass windows--but every now and then, if you're pushing on them, it'll turn out that one could be interpreted to mean you, and the more generous in your interpretation you have to be to include yourself the harder the barrier is and the harder it is to push through it, so usually someone who fits better grabs it first, but sometimes you can manage to push through even one that feels like stiff rubber, and sometimes it's really definitely for you and then it's like there's no barrier at all."

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"Can you be not summoned if you want to stay behind?"

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"If the summons invokes you specifically then you might have to go depending on the summons involved, but if it wants 'a succubus' or 'a wrath demon' or allows leeway for the summonee to stay behind if they want then you can stay."

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"What if all of the succubi or wrath demons wanted to stay behind?"

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