"You can tell because he told Odette to run when Sauron showed himself."

"Sauron knowing she exists might not have been worth that risk. He is very dangerous and is likelier than Morgoth to try something we don't expect."

"At the point at which balrogs were randomly exploding with spontaneous stone walls between them and any nearby elves and the giant dragon was having its throat and heart carved out by thin air I don't think keeping Odette's existence a secret from Morgoth or Sauron was feasible."

"Yeah. The limits of her capabilities should be, though, as much as we can, and particularly the fact they get stronger."

"How does that impact the resurrection project, I wonder."

"I'm not too hopeful we can keep her increasing abilities from the Enemy forever, and having the dead back will also enhance our capabilities. So that's something."

"I don't think she's...hm, I wonder if I should have asked her to dawdle on building the city or something."

"The dragon was probably the thing she's done that was most informative to the Enemy but also we badly needed that dragon dead."

"I don't even know if I want to know how he made it."

"He can do a lot of - biologicals. The orcs, same vague principle."

"I know what he made orcs out of. I don't know if I want to know what he made the dragon out of."

"No idea there. Could be a Maia."

"Balrogs're Maiar, right?"

"Yes. So it's possible in principle. I can't think what else would be."

"If it was a Maia, that limits how easy it would be for him to get another one..."

"I don't think he can manufacture an indefinite supply of dragons, no."

"Do you know if there are or were any others?"

"Glaurung's the only one we've seen him deploy. Maybe he won't try the trick again since it failed, but I wouldn't count on it."

"Glaurung? It had a name?"

"We named it the first time it attacked, fifty years ago. It was a juvenile then."

"It's attacked before?"

"Yeah. I drove it off without magic, that time, but as I said it was a juvenile. It wasn't accompanying an army, I don't think Morgoth meant for it to get out."

"Yikes.

I wonder if it was a person."

"I am sure it was, in the sense you mean that. So are orcs. It does not change much."

"I don't want to kill someone and not know about it and neither does Odette. The dragon being a person doesn't change that it was the right decision to kill it, but it makes it sad that she had to and my sister has a right to be sad that killing people is necessary."