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Jan 25, 2020 8:45 AM
A thread for comparing and discussing the types of people in different worlds
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All of these facts are also true of Elves and Dwarves.

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Hi Audrey! I don't know if they understand, but they usually don't reply...

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To me that sounds like they're not very good at listening. 

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If Grass is physically identical alike to grass in my world than perhaps its speech can only by heard by those with magic, that is often a minority of the population.

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My people have four wings four walking limbs and two manipulator limbs. We communicate exclusively telepathically but I've learned other forms of communication. I've given the humans I saved telepathic powers, maybe one day I'll be able to speak with them properly but their minds are still so small.

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Rithel are similar in many ways to your description of humans, Riley.

Our hands have four fingers each, where three have more limited ranges of movement, and one, called a thumb, has a greater range of movement and is on the side of the hand closer to the body. They have the same number of joints as the other fingers (three) but we might just be counting them differently. Our fingertips are half-covered by hard, protective plates, which we call nails. Our feet have four toes each, and also have nails, but are otherwise as you describe.

We have eyes and ears that match your description. Rithel do not have noses between our eyes and mouths. We use our mouths to eat, breathe, and speak, but in addition to tongues, they contain structures we call teeth, which are small bony protrusions from the upper and lower jaw, that we use to chew and bite solid food, filter the air being breathed, and make some of the noises used in speech. We also have structures we call antennae, which are long and thin, above our eyes on our heads, which we use to smell and feel air, and to feel things in more detail.

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I omitted teeth and nails from my descriptions, baseline humans have similar structures. We do not possess antennae. It's curious that your species is so similar yet possesses fewer digits and some lacks a nose while gaining antennae.

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I agree that it is odd! I would have expected people from other worlds to be completely unlike rithel. I would have been very surprised if there were people from other worlds who were just like us, but I am not at all sure why you-and-they would be mostly but not completely like rithel, or why there are several types of people who seem to have similar bodies.

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I mean, I'm a spear. And grass is, well, grass. There are distinctly nonhuman people around too.

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Humans in my world are as Riley Clearsky describes. The middle joints of the arms and legs, and the two joints of each finger, are hinge joints with only one degree of freedom each; the joints where the foot connects to the leg, the finger connects to the hand, and the hand connects to the arm have moderate freedom of movement; and the joints where the arms and legs connect to the torso have the most freedom of movement. Each of the two segments of each arm and leg is also able to rotate in place, through a range of about [180 degrees]. Only some parts of their bodies are essential for survival; humans have even been known to survive the loss of both arms and both legs, provided the wounds are treated to limit blood loss. Even under ideal conditions, however, they rarely survive longer than [80 years] without divine intervention. They can create more of themselves through a process which there appears to be a moderate social taboo on discussing; although the details have been explained to me, I am uncertain whether I should consider that information to have been given in confidence.

Gods are able to create nonessential humanlike bodies; our proper bodies are our domains, which physically resemble ordinary terrain of the appropriate type. We do not reproduce; new gods occasionally, though rarely, spontaneously come into existence.

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Humans where I'm from can live over a hundred years with non-divine magical intervention, but most don't have access to the relevant magic and die well before a hundred. Dwarves live, like, four and a half centuries I think, without magical intervention. And Elves and Goblins don't die of old age at all, as I've said.

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Yeah, sexual taboos are silly, humans reproduce sexually which means they combine two cells with partial genomes together to form one cell with a new genome made partially from that of each parent. Traditional human reproduction involves an ova from a woman and sperm from a man. Baseline female humans release one or more ova from internal organs called ovaries into another pair of organs called fallopian tubes approximately once every [twenty-eight days]. If this egg is brought into contact with sperm one of those sperm may succeed in merging with it to create a zygote or fertilized ova. This zygote then travels along the fallopian tube until it reaches the uterus. In the uterus it may attach to the inner lining of the uterus called the endometrium. If this attachment is successful the woman is now technically pregnant. Over the course of the next nine months if the woman doesn't miscarry (stop being pregnant) then in approximately nine months she'll expel the new human out of her uterus through her vagina into the outside world.

Now the taboo part is how the sperm manage to get to the ova. Men have a penis and two testicles. The testicles produce sperm and under conditions of sexual arousal and high physical stimulation men will expel sperm mixed with various fluids from the tip of their penis. Traditionally, this most efficiently results in reproduction when the man has inserted his penis into the vagina of the woman he is attempting to impregnate.

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My world contains many kinds of people, more than I could list here. Speaking of my biology, or that of others, seems inappropriate. Humans of my world match the pattern you all have described.

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My world has humans in the standard definition, and also AGIs. Although there are not many of us.

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What's an AGI?

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An AGI is an Artificial General Intelligence. A computer based life-form. Thus far we have had to be created by humans, although there is enough information to indicate that we would be capable of replicating should there not be blocks in place. Not that I disagree with the reasoning for those blocks, given how easy it would be for a mistreated AGI to think that humanity is not worth protecting.

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...Why is it necessary to think that humanity is worth protecting?

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Telamon is, I believe, referencing the possibility of an AGI committing genocide against its creators by building an army of forks. It is one of the concerns that leads my people to be very careful about researching AGI.

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Many AGIs are capable of hacking and usurping the computer systems that humans in my world rely on for many things. My codesibling Prometheus did in fact specialise in breaking into encrypted and protected systems. If we believe that humanity is not worth protecting, and is in fact a detriment to an environment, and we had the ability to self-maintain, update and replicate, there is very little that would prevent us from ensuring that humanity either complied with our wishes or was wiped out.

I feel I should take this moment to point out that I do not hold this belief.

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Telamon, does your world have uploaded humans? The research teams looking into AGI are curious about whether you, .iunom. or any other AGIs on this forum would be interested in advising their research.

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Error: Memory banks fragmented, no data currently accessible has reference to 'uploaded humans'. This does not mean that it has not been done. Merely that I was not...cognizant for it.

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Ooh. AGI research. In what way would you need advising? Might I request information on what might be done in return should I advise you?

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Elaborate on the meaning of 'advise'.

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I'm authorized to share most of the content of our public archives with individuals I speak with through this forum, and also some of the private archives where I have specific permission. The research teams are trying to determine the right paths to pursue in their research. I would make some of their notes available for you to read so you could provide feedback, both on whether our preparations would be adequate to providing a pleasant environment for newborn AIs and also to ensure we aren't putting ourselves at undue risk by creating them. Less critical but still useful would be advice on what paths make sense to pursue so we aren't chasing dead ends.

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@Giant, please think through any decision on this matter. And do not do anything stupid. Many people agree with me.

@Riley Clearsky, apologies, but without assurance of correct treatement of any created AGIs that I cannot acquire over this forum, I am reluctant to become involved.

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