Alexeara Cansellarion is in his study when he gets the vision from his Goddess, which means he must have fucked up quite badly.
…That one might in fact not be his (or Lastwall’s) fault though if they’ve been able to resurrect the mortal Iomedae this whole time - well someone made a mistake somewhere in there. He teleports to Vigil as soon as the vision ends, to ask Her in the next planned commune whether this vision was in fact from Her, then does a sending to ask, ugh, Clepati, whether she happens to have prepared true resurrection this morning.
"Alfirin. She - worked with me on the whole project, she's the one with the better memory for all the chemical manufacturing processes - I can pay for her resurrection, or I predict I'll be able to once we work out terms -"
She's a bit hard to understand, because she is speaking Taldane not just as it was spoken nine hundred years ago but as it was spoken nine hundred years ago in rural Menador.
"...may I have some clothes."
“I am a paladin of Aroden and usually wear men’s clothes,” says the teenage girl, “though it isn’t very important. ....Who…are you?” She had kind of expected the church’s senior priests to be more…she’s not sure, actually. More ornately dressed, less confused, more people who are the kind of people in the kind of stories you hear about the glorious imperial capital - stories she can now identify as kind of awful, but material abundance will make it better -
"Okay, let me try to explain everything - well, the most important things. You - Iomedae - called Arazni, joined and took over leadership of the crusade against Tar-Baphon, defeated him, and sealed him away in Gallowspire. Then you went for the starstone and became a god. Eight hundred years later, Aroden tried to come back for the Age of Glory and died instead. Asmodeus' church took over Cheliax. It's about a hundred years since then and we're still trying to fix it. There are some other problems too but that's the big one. And then today You - that is to say, the goddess Iomedae - told me that I could resurrect Her mortal self, and Nefreti here is the high priestess of Nethys and always has the right spells prepared when something really weird happens so I asked her. I assume that's not enough of an explanation, just tell me where you want more detail."
Iomedae mostly got stuck on the part where Aroden died, actually, and is now staring at the man sort of frozen in horror. All of the other bad things he mentioned you can probably fix with guns, but that one she’s not sure you can.
“Well,” she says in a very small voice when she manages to talk at all, “that is - not what we were expecting. But I think we can still fix it. Possibly not Aroden being dead, I don’t know how to fix that. But Asmodeus’s church taking over Cheliax sounds like you could fix it with a lot of really cheap weapons which don’t take much skill to fire and which are very deadly? And with a lot of money?”
"Devils are immune to fire," he says, half-automatically. "...but yes, that would help a lot. I'm sorry about Aroden. I don't know if there's any way to fix it but maybe we can resurrect his teenage self now and he can go for the starstone again when he's ready? Since that's apparently a thing that works."
"We didn't die in this world," says Iomedae. "Five years ago Alfirin and I were transported somehow to another world, called Earth, that has - lots of wonders of Azlant, without any magic at all. And we were enslaved - it's kind of a long story - but eventually we realized that if we memorized everything about how Earth made all its weapons and all its wonders, and then killed ourselves, then Aroden could tell His church to call us home and we'd know enough to make the whole world rich, and kill Tar-Baphon besides. So we did that. I don't know why we're - here - instead of being home. But I don't think you could get Aroden the way you got us, because he wasn't…with us? …we did try to check if there were any others but we never found any."
Iomedae looks to Alfirin. Her own instincts are to go where the fancy knight says but she has picked up enough common sense off Alfirin to note that there is an argument against doing that, which is that they don't actually know anything at all about the fancy knight except that he says his god, who is Iomedae, told him to resurrect them.
"....right," says Iomedae. "...I propose that I kill myself again and you have a Lawful Good priest of Iomedae raise me, if there's really such a thing, and then I'll know that it's at least true there's a Lawful Good goddess Iomedae. I will tell you enough to pay for the resurrection in advance, though."
"I do want to do that," Iomedae says. "But if it's impossible, then I think that just means we shouldn't explain guns, and we should probably explain nitrogen fixation and smallpox inoculation and penicillin to everyone, and hope that things get kind of backwardsedly better like they are in America? I haven't thought about this very carefully yet, I was expecting to be raised by Aroden's high priest and trust Him because He's Aroden's high priest. I don't know, what do you think we should do?"
"Um - is there any way to test without dying? We could - I don't know. Maybe you're right and we should explain those things and then you can try dying and if they don't get you right back I'll do it too. But if there's any other way to check while alive we could do that instead."
"I bet there are other ways to check, I just don't know what they are because I don't actually know very much about magic. And since Aroden's - dead - I can't even count on that He'd strip me of my powers if I was accidentally helping the Asmodeans who are apparently ruling Taldor from Colorado all the way to California."
Iomedae only under extraordinary circumstances makes a paladin of someone who does not know Her and does not trust Her. For most people, it is a healthier journey, to satisfy oneself about a god and then enter their service, to know what they think a paladin is before you become one.
On top of that, a soul like the teenage girl Iomedae is one that you would definitely want to make a paladin of but with some caution about the surrounding situation so that the baby paladin does not hare off in a wildly unproductive direction, as baby paladins who are obsessed with personally solving all the problems in the world often do.
But 'I'd like to be a paladin so I can get credible communication about whether I'm giving extremely powerful weapons to the right people' is not, in the end, not an Iomedaen prayer.
All of Aroden's former servants are cheap to take up; it's reaching out with the part of Her that is shaped like a part of Him, and holding it up to one of the trillion cracks Aroden's death left in the world.
Iomedae nods seriously. ...they really know almost nothing, don't they. She assumed they'd be waking up in Oppara and she at least had vague ideas about Oppara and instead they are - important out of all proportion to their ability to figure out what's going on, and Teleports can be ordered for them in the blink of an eye.
She is terrified and she is not going to let that get in the way of making the world rich and fixing all its problems. "Well, if Vigil is the place to fix everything then I guess we should go there right away." And she takes Alfirin's hand.
Iomedae is not very impressed by Vigil, at a first glance. America is good at big impressive cities, and she is on the whole not even all that impressed with America. She would've been impressed if she'd come here before America; the streets are paved and clean and the buildings well-maintained and the walls in the distance are thick and tall. It is the biggest Golarion city she has ever seen, and it was supposedly founded by her.
But that was a version of her that did not know how to build skyscrapers and may only have possessed a shaky grasp on sewers. She clings to Alfirin's hand and thinks about how they were right they did the right thing it worked, but it feels kind of hollow since - she did it out of trust in Aroden, and Aroden is dead.
Alfirin is still kind of processing the thing where instead of going back to the Golarion that they left they went to a Golarion that's had another thousand years pass and also where Iomedae at least never left and instead became a god. Maybe that means they never left and they're just copies that got made and put on Earth? That doesn't really explain the thing where Iomedae's a god, though. Iomedae is very impressive as a person and has an intensity to her that very few people do but - very few isn't none, and most of them don't become gods. (It's not at all weird that the original Alfirin isn't a god, she probably got eaten by a bear or something. Most people don't become gods.)
As for how it's been a thousand years here - Well, maybe it's been a thousand years on Earth too, and they just weren't conscious for it - maybe it took them a thousand years to get here, if their souls were traveling at light-speed or slower. Or, speaking of light-speed, maybe Golarion is moving very fast? Or next to a black hole? She doesn't know if that's the direction that works because relativity isn't very useful for industrializing a planet and is complicated besides.
This city is definitely smaller than American cities, and worse, and also, she notices, much colder than the city in which they were revived. She makes her shirt into a sweater because it is admittedly very cool that it can do that, and clings to Iomedae.
Iomedae is clinging right back. The onlookers (there are quite a few, in uniforms) look a bit confused, she thinks. Probably the important paladin of Iomedae does not usually tow around teenage girls by Teleport. "You know," she says in English, "I might have expected if I'd known a thousand years would pass that there wouldn't be anything for us to do. The Industrial Revolution didn't take a thousand years on Earth."
"I guess. And even if Aroden was trying to make it happen faster, He's - dead. So." Does the paladin of Iomedae seem to want them to do anything? Iomedae is honestly fairly intimidated by the paladin of Iomedae. He is the second real paladin she's met not counting herself and he's armored and taller than her and watching her like - like she became a god in this world, only she's not actually sure she is qualified.
He mostly seems to want them to follow him through the city's citadel to a room with tables and chairs and maps - He kicks out the people who were using it already, apologetically. They don't question it. "Is there anything you need? Should I send for the other people you should meet now, or do you have more questions for me or other things you want to address first?"
They did a practice of this two weeks ago. It isn't easy to know if it'll work the same for real - they could hardly bring in someone who'd pretend to be from Golarion and relevantly ignorant - but they know the first two days of what they want to say, at least. "I can't think of anything else either."
Cansellarion does so. He introduces the others as they arrive. Jan Zima, Lord-Watcher - that's the title for the leader of their country, he's not a king and got his position by merit not blood - Veena Heliu, precentor-martial for magic, and… a bunch of researchers who Veena will introduce because Cansellarion doesn't know their names. And some secretaries. Veena and Jan are shooting Cansellarion questioning looks. The researchers seem mildly curious.
Iomedae was not expecting to meet the rulers of any countries. At least, certainly not out of the blue like that, with them walking into the conference room; she had expected that once they'd accomplished some things they might get presented to the Emperor, like people sometimes are in legends.
But no, here he is. It's terrifying. She's suddenly deeply curious how they define merit but it - doesn't matter. She's not going to be any good at politics. The thing she and Alfirin have spent four years studying and planning for is bringing technology here, and she'll just have to hope that Evil gods can't pick paladins and that if she's doing Evil in helping these people her god will renounce her. …possibly there are other things she could do but she doesn't know what they are.
Are these people waiting for her to speak. Oh no. Her stomach is doing somersaults.
"Almost five years ago Alfirin and I were transported in some kind of accident to another world," she says. "It has almost eight billion humans living on it, and no magic that they know of, and rumors of things the gods did a long time ago but no empowered priests anymore. They are very very rich. Only one person in a hundred works on a farm, but they can feed all the rest, and clothes and books are so cheap that they are thrown away, and it is very rare for anyone to die of disease or of monsters, though also none of them are heroes out of legend. Any person can talk to any other person, anywhere on the world, with a nonmagical device they can buy for two weeks' wages in America. They have horseless carriages that go on great paved roads around the land, and they have flying ones that take millions of people every day to any big city in the world. The big cities are very big, they know how to build buildings a hundred stories tall.
They have weapons that can kill a man from a mile away, without magic, at not much expense, and weapons that do not take much training to use but that can kill a bear, or shoot through armor. They have weapons that are scarier than those, that can burn whole cities and poison the ground where they stood, but I am probably not going to teach you how to build them because I think it might be better not to have them here.
So Alfirin and I figured, we would learn all of the things they know how to do on Earth, and we would commit them to memory, and practice teaching them, and then we would take our own lives and if my god saw fit He'd direct His church to bring us back so we could tell you everything and make this world rich and also beat Tar-Baphon. Only apparently it's too late for that, and my god is dead, and Asmodeus rules the Empire where I was born. I still think the things we taught ourselves will probably help, though.
…I'm Iomedae. Sir Cansellarion said that this world has an Iomedae who became a god but I - if there'd been a book in the libraries of Earth about how to become a god I'd only have read it in my free time, probably, because this was our best guess about what needed doing. And there wasn't such a book, and I really don't know anything about being a god, and I wouldn't want anyone to imagine I did. Alfirin's actually the one with the better memory for all the tricky engineering processes."
Alfirin swallows, and gets down from the table where she was sitting. "Are there any questions about that or should we start explaining technology?" she asks, nervously. Somehow this is scarier than pulling the trigger was, which is objectively ridiculous and insane of her.
"Okay. Iomedae and I don't know what you already know, because we're from eight hundred years ago, so if I'm explaining something that's not new you should tell me and I'll skip to the next thing. The first thing is that you need lots and lots of steel, for making the machines for making everything else. That means lots of iron and coal mines and - I don't know the Taldane word. Are there wizards here who can cast the spell to make us know modern Taldane?"
"Limestone," Alfirin says, once she has the vocabulary. "Iron and coal and limestone. The limestone is - it removes the bad parts of rock coal, so that you can use rock coal and not charcoal, because it's easier to get lots of rock coal. I'm going to explain how to make a Watt engine, which is a type of machine that can operate a pump by burning coal, because a pump to get water out and air in is important for making deeper mines and you can start building them before you have a whole steel manufacturing chain set up…"
They can keep going in this vein for a very long time. Iomedae expected the nervousness to get better by a few hours in, but it actually doesn't; it's just unbearably stressful the whole way through. It doesn't help that she now has a language in her head that is the Taldane of 900 years in the future, crisper and cleaner and with wildly more vocabulary than she ever had with the Taldane she spoke growing up. It feels like it's crowding it out, like she can't remember how to speak her own Taldane anymore. Which is fine since no one speaks it anymore except her, except that itself hurts, though it seems like it really ought to be a very small hurt alongside everyone she knew being dead and Aroden being gone and her homeland being ruled by Hell.
For the most part it's not worth trying to cheat with magic at precision manufacture, which you're going to need to master the slow way, but there are various things that would be really nice to have a little earlier than you'd otherwise get them, such as radio, so they have those presented a little early in the logical progression because they're probably not that hard for a determined tinkering wizard to iron out.
After …some number of hours…Iomedae doesn't think it's a small number of hours…Alfirin looks like she's flagging a little bit, and Iomedae herself feels like she is made of paper. "Maybe we could take a break?" she says hopefully. Is it rude to suggest this in front of the President/Emperor of an entire country? Probably.
"Of course," says Zima, "How long do you need - oh, of course, you were just raised, you don't have rings. Let's adjourn for dinner and resume tomorrow morning." He directs an aide to find two rings of sustenance if they're going spare or even if they aren't, and another to reserve a couple of guest suites and then make sure some food is brought to them - real food, for people who eat.
Iomedae would in principle be kind of curious about that claim which seems to implicitly contain some other ones but she is too tired to be curious. She wants food, and a bed, and a hug. In her imagination of how this would happen, Aroden sent a vision to her father as he was important enough he could pay for an important priest to confirm the vision was real, and he was there when they woke up. Also she was dressed. Also everyone was very proud of them and praised their cleverness. Also Aroden wasn't dead.
"Thank you," she says to the President/Emperor, and after that hopefully she can just go where she is told.
Iomedae hugs her back, very fiercely. She usually remembers that she is very strong but she seems to be forgetting right this second. "It was so so scary. I hadn't - thought about that part - I guess it felt like everything scary was leading up to that, and at the point where the gods have said we knew enough we'd already won - you did a very good job -"
"- I'm really upset that He's dead," Iomedae admits after a bit. "I know that it will still be good and help a lot of people, but - He would've been so proud of us, and He's the person who explained - that you ought to do it, if you could -
- and this is very silly but I think His church would've been more pleased with us. These people don't really seem very pleased, just - is that what I'm like as a person -"
"They really don't - it's not what you're like at all, you told me I did a very good job when I really wasn't sure - I think you did a good job too - I think you're great and your, um, original copy? made a country that - everyone important wears army uniforms, it's like some kind of military dictatorship - so I'm not sure I like Her very much at all." Alfirin's probably being faintly ridiculous in how sure she is that she's got the better of the two Iomedaes, when the other one went on to become a god, but the other one never brought all of America's science knowledge to Golarion, so there.
"That's exactly it, I couldn't put my finger on it but you're right. It's a military dictatorship. And not one that - I mean, not one that opened with ‘we know this looks really bad but actually it's the only way to stop Asmodeus who is ruling half the Empire'. What do you suppose they mean that they choose their President on merit."
"They said 'on merit, not by blood' and sounded a little smug about it so - I don't know. The president names a successor? Their top generals vote for one of their number to be president? Their priests do? Some so-called 'impartial panel of experts'? Maybe the god Iomedae picks. I bet military dictatorships don't look as bad if everyone else is still doing monarchy - real monarchy, not queen-of-england monarchy."
"I guess maybe if no one has ever tried democracy you do some kind of ‘we choose a successor through deliberation' thing and if it doesn't break down into civil wars as often as Taldor you feel very pleased with yourself. That doesn't explain the all being very grim and cold but I do feel kind of silly being mad that people weren't being more flattering - if we'd been Raised in Oppara I expect there'd have been plenty of praise but who knows how much of it real-"
"It really doesn't - we could ask to leave, and see if they let us. I think we shouldn't mention nuclear bombs any more, even here." They could probably kill themselves again, right now, but not with any expectation that there'd be anyone better than Lastwall interested in raising them again.
Iomedae nods. "I think the god Iomedae would have made sure we made it to people who were real enemies of Asmodeus. But I don't know enough about the god Iomedae to guess if She would have made sure we made it to people who would treat us fairly, or who it would be a good idea for us to trust… I guess now that I think about it I didn't know those things about Aroden either - I don't think paladins can betray people even in a complicated way, it feels like the kind of thing you'd fall for if you took advice from some time travellers meant for beating the Nazis and then used it to fight communism in Vietnam or something, but Sir Cansellarion was the only paladin in that room -"
"You'd think he'd be more cheerful but maybe as President he doesn't know very much about iron furnaces and lathes and doesn't understand why it's all so important - that might be part of it, I tried to explain and you tried to explain but maybe it doesn't work, saying it with words, and we'd have to show them America before they understand why it's such a big deal and are impressed with us."
"Or even if some of the wizards understood, maybe they felt like they had to match the mood of the President, and if he wasn't jumping for joy then nor would they, so as long as he doesn't see anything to be cheerful about it'll feel like none of them understand. You could do an illusion, in the morning, and show them Costco and satellite imagery and the space shuttle and Times Square -"
"I can't. I don't have the spellbook anymore, and I never figured out how to hang a spell without it - Maybe one of their wizards will share. Also illusions aren't very good - maybe it's just that I'm comparing them in my head to photographs and video. Maybe an illusion of those will do it."
"You'd really think that even if one ran a military dictatorship and wasn't Arodenite at all and didn't care about curing the plague and tuberculosis and smallpox or making food cheap or letting all people talk to each other, one would get cheerful about guns. I guess we'll see if that's what happens with the President."
"She shouldn't trust us. Her god's dead but conveniently there's a new god, who is her, and we promise we want the weapons to fight Hell, which rules her homeland? I wouldn't trust us. So she gives us - the things that you'd begrudge very few people. But, Heaven someday heal us, I don't want to teach Cheliax how to fix smallpox."
"I'm not exactly disputing that, but I'll note that she is very very young - younger than you're imagining - knows less than would be ideal about what a paladin is, and spent the whole day terrified. If it wasn't Her I don't think we'd be doing as we ought, if we were to pressure her into giving us weapons. It is Her, and I think we can be pretty sure she'll be glad she did, but even so it doesn't sit right."
Iomedae prays before she sleeps, because she has done that every night since she was too young to remember. She prays to Aroden. Doing anything else hurts too much and besides, what if he's not dead and they're lying…she's not sure the logic holds up. She prays to him anyway, to withhold her from error and help her build America in Golarion, except better.
She tries praying to the goddess who is supposedly Iomedae but it's just too awkward. She ends up just saying 'it's been nine hundred years, and Hell rules the Empire now? Really?' and then realizing that is actually an excellent question.
Someone brings them magic rings that'll make them need less sleep, supposedly. Iomedae looks to Alfirin; she's not going to be able to tell the difference between a helpful ring and a cursed one that imprisons them both or something.
If one of them needs to force the other to remove the ring, Iomedae can take it off Alfirin and there's no way Alfirin can take it off Iomedae. But if things have come to that, the President's Secret Service can probably step in anyway, so - "sure."
She puts on the ring. "It doesn't feel like anything."
"I don't feel obliged to answer," Iomedae says, that being easiest to check for. "And I think I could lie, subject to my usual constraints on that - suppose I wished to and wouldn't deceive you thereby, I could say that America being a British colony its monarch is the Queen of England."
"We'll decide together," says Iomedae, who is also picking up on that. "I think - it would be helpful if you described what you would do if you had the weapons to conquer your world." This seems like a slightly wiser approach than saying 'reassure me you won't just impose your military dictatorship everywhere', because if they will do that they probably think it's right and glorious of them to do it and there's a chance they will just say as much.
"To conquer the world? We'd - skipping over Cheliax, for the moment, because the diplomatic situation makes that a little complicated - once we'd dealt with that - maybe with sufficiently obvious overwhelming force we could get a real peace treaty with Belkzen - our neighbor to the northwest, barbarians, conduct a lot of raids into our territory. And more permanently deal with Tar-Baphon if the weapons could be used for that. And then - make defensive alliances with all of Cyprian's neighbors so he stops conquering them? Ask the Goddess if we can and should do something about Nidal, or Geb? I suspect the weapons in question wouldn't be enough for either of those."
Iomedae isn't in fact qualified to do politics, and she knows it. She is a teenager and the President is probably very good at diplomacy and knows everything about a hundred different topics she is stunningly ignorant of. It sounds like a good answer. Is that because it's really easy to guess what she wants to hear? It's probably easiest to guess what she wants to hear if the goddess Iomedae is a lot like her. Or was a lot like her as an idealistic teenager, and then turned into the kind of person who founds a military dictatorship.
It doesn't really feel like a solvable problem and of course that's not any excuse at all not to solve it.
"Does your Goddess not want to rule the whole world?" she asks neutrally. It is a reasonable thing for gods to want, she thinks.
…Did Iomedae at sixteen want to rule the whole world? Or - not at sixteen - at whenever this Iomedae left Golarion - and maybe hasn't yet encountered whatever convinced her otherwise? "No, She doesn't. She wants to - make a world that's free from great Evils like Tar-Baphon and Asmodeus, but not to rule it." He says as neutrally as he can. It probably won't help the situation if she thinks he's judging her for her ambitions.
"...yes?" Obviously this is being very rude to very important people but anything that can be faked at all can be faked more easily on more notice. (And if the very important people get annoyed and throw them in the dungeons, that'd be - good to know. If inconvenient. Considering.)
Iomedae nods. " - I'm sorry. About the inconvenience. It's just that Asmodeus could also think of having a priest of Nethys resurrect us." Probably if He did that He'd have just pretended to be Aroden's priesthood in Oppara which had to partner with Nethys's for the resurrection due to some magical reason Iomedae and Alfirin didn't know enough to object to, instead of pretending Iomedae is a god and that Asmodeus rules the Empire, but.
It smells horrible. There is a slave market. Iomedae hates it instantly.
She will forge bravely onwards and strike up conversations with random shop owners about the state of the world these days. She doesn't actually initially ask them very many questions. She's kind of hoping that someone will go ahead and tell her what to think without her asking ...
...now that she thinks that through, it's stupid. She asks questions. Where they're from, why they're here, what sells best, what one should look for in a husband, which gods favor Absalom, which gods have ascended here, what one should do if one's father is a mean drunk, what one should do if one is with child and unmarried, which afterlife they want, why.
This man was born in Absalom, and has always lived here; This one emigrated from Taldor and is considering moving back; These three are refugees from Galt. This catfolk came from Amurristan with her parents after the war, but she was only this big at the time and doesn't remember anywhere else.
These people all live here, these ones are sailors whose ship is in, this one's hoping to study at the Arcanamirium.
Silks, wine, cod, mount spells, knee-high boots with too many buckles.
All the ascended gods favor Absalom, of course. Also Abadar. Also Sarenrae, and Pharasma, and Shelyn, and... some people will just go on to list every god that they don't find personally distasteful and then some. The gods that ascended here are Aroden and Norgorber and Cayden Cailean and Iomedae.
If one's father is a mean drunk, one should get away from the house when he's in his cups/burn all the liquor/no definitely do not do that/hit him back harder.
If one is with child and unmarried one should ask her grandmother for help instead of random strangers/give the child to a temple/get married quickly, obviously/oh you poor thing, here, I can set you up with a remedy/raise the child, of course/go to a priestess of Callistria/go become a priestess of Callistria.
People want to go to Nirvana (To finally get a chance to rest and not work for a living) and Heaven (My father is in Heaven, and his father, and his father; because I don't want to turn into a fox or something; It's just the best one, isn't it?) or Axis (What can I say, I like the city life) and Elysium (I have endured the city life for forty years, when I'm dead I want something different) and "wherever my wife went".
She also reads. Slowly, haltingly, not very well; her Taldane literacy hasn't been exercised in five years of her time and the language has gone off and changed.
The history books seem to mostly agree with Lastwall on major points such as Iomedae: a Lawful Good god and Aroden: dead and Cheliax: ruled by Hell. Iomedae cannot find any good complaints about her god-self except that her god-self abandoned the revolution in Galt. She asks Cansellarion about that.
"The Goddess had many priorities in this world, and only limited ability to intervene. The revolution in Galt also had - after the initial stages - a lot of particularly vicious infighting I think it made it a place where She was very constrained in doing right by everyone who asked for Her help, more so than usual."
Alfirin, for her part, asks different people different questions. And then she and Iomedae can compare at the end. Alfirin tries in Hallit, and in Taldane, and then a bit in Spanish to see if it's a trick where they're using magic for the languages - If it is they're clever enough because the shopkeeper can't understand Spanish at all. Some of them do speak Hallit though. She doesn't know if they speak Hallit anywhere in Cheliax so it doesn't mean very much.
Can Abadarans be paid to swear that claims like "Lastwall is a Lawful Good state that has not started a lot of wars" and "the high priest of Nethys doesn't generally do resurrections for infernal Cheliax" and "it sure appears even to advanced magical inspection that Cansellarion is a paladin" and "paladins are not allowed to lie" are true?
Iomedae can't actually think of anything else. She's pretty sure if she had realized this was a problem she was going to have she'd have been able to. But. She and Alfirin will compare notes, in English. "- I think at the point where they could fake all of this they would have easier ways to get us to tell them things."
"I think I'm not ready but mostly because - if we teach them today and then realize tomorrow why that was a mistake it's hard to fix. And that's just going to keep being true every day - maybe we should still wait a day or two, though, because one day really isn't that much time and we could have missed something obvious to check -"
They find one, eventually, from a scrollmaker. Alfirin requests it and an empty spellbook and some inks. (She tested the ink in her old spellbook, back on earth; it had enough unexpected metals and compounds in it that she's pretty sure spellbooks need a special ink and don't just use whatever's available.)
Alfirin resists the impulse - it's quite a strong one, really - to tell him that she already is one and see if paladins get the same look on their face that high school chemistry teachers do. He's prooobably not secretly an evil paladin but if he is it would be better if he didn't know. "Yes," she not-technically-lies instead, "When I'm older, but I should probably start learning soon, right? Maybe when I'm done with the other things we're doing and I have time for it I'll try to learn to cast some of the spells in this book."
"We're not ready to teach you the weapons yet," Iomedae tells the President. She is trying to conceal that she's terrified a little bit, because it's embarrassing, but she's not trying as hard as possible because firstly at some point that feels like Lying and secondly because this is in fact a sort of test and it is relevant if the President wants them to be afraid. "We do have more things to teach for the rest of today and the next several days."
A few days is unlikely to matter, for the strategic picture, as long as they can keep this secret - and they probably won't start the big obvious things like trying to build blast furnaces in the next few days anyways. "Okay," says Jan, "Let's get started on whatever's next for today then."
"I don't know either. I think we probably shouldn't do it if we are expecting zero stupid wars but - rich modern worlds do have fewer wars, on the whole. And Lastwall's small, I don't think they could conquer the continent and hold it just as a matter of the industrial base they'd be starting from - I'm rationalizing that it won't be so bad because I want to do it, aren't I."
Iomedae feels uneasy whenever she notices how successfully America acculturated her. This is her world and she would like not to feel like a foreign explorer doing anthropology in it. Well, not exactly. Maybe it wouldn't feel like this if they'd succeeded at really going home.
"...I would have a lot of fun exploring this place for secret passages and also they absolutely have guards at our door."
"I'm out of practice at reading Taldane," Iomedae confesses. "Oppara's still there, approximately where I'd have expected it to be, and it's an option but - probably a worse option than this place. …I couldn't find Sarkoris on the map at all, not that we'd want to go there anyway."
She looked, though. That's sweet. "It's not there. I think. I didn't exactly know a ton of geography before I left, but - the countries that I think should have been close by are there, but then, if you look north of Ustalav and west of Mendev there's just - I think something horrible happened -"
In the morning Iomedae tells them that they're ready to talk about weapons. Alfirin's better at all of the chemistry and metallurgy and physics, but Iomedae's the one who instinctively adored guns, and spent a while in fact making them herself with varying quality tools and testing them out on trees in the American wilderness to see if they were of any practical use. Making anything good - and especially mass production of anything good - is going to require them to master all of the metalworking and machining and chemistry things that Alfirin's been lecturing on for the last several days, but the thing about guns is that they're useful across a really wide range of competence at making them.
Is this, in fact, what it takes to cheer up the President and all the researchers diligently taking their cues from him?
The President seems maybe a little less grumpy, sure. Jan is glad they're getting weapons though it sure looks like they need to make a lot of the other things first and while industrial policy is arguably his job more than anyone else's it's also an entirely novel field and he's not looking forward to all the mistakes he's going to make. (He's also maybe a little uncomfortable about how much he's going to need to rely on advice from a pair of teenage girls.)
Iomedae gets through the whole day without getting too discouraged by President Grim, but by mid afternoon she has resolved to, in fact, say something. Her rationalization is that it does in fact seem like a failure of imagination, or something, on their part, to be approaching this the way they are approaching it. But at least half her actual reason is that it - feels like talking to a brick wall, and she would like to see if perhaps instead they can trust each other and like each other.
"I keep feeling as if there must be something I'm misunderstanding," she says when she's done explaining what they'll need for the first gun that's decidedly better than a longbow instead of just not that much worse and much much easier to train people to use. "Maybe because the world changed, maybe because I'm explaining myself badly. If I went to - any place I've ever known before I found myself on Earth, and admittedly there weren't very many of them, and I told them these things, they would weep, because they are tired of burying their children when they're too little to be good, and they are tired of losing their goats to wolves, and they are tired of going hungry every time it rains too much - and they would want to soar through the air and go and visit all the wonders of the world - I don't know whether we can build Axis here in the world or whether Axis would no longer impress me but it's one of those and you all seem like you haven't made up your minds whether it's worth being happy about it."
"I'm not really making plans about when I can be happy - but I expect that I probably won't be cheerful until it's at least more clear that we will win. We still need to build all of this, and train engineers to operate all the devices, and teach all the farmers how to use the new fertilizers and plows, and - try to do it all without ruining tens of thousands of lives and livelihoods - and train soldiers and develop doctrines and somehow stop Cheliax from just copying everything we've done until after Hell is removed from power there - There's a lot to be done. Time enough for happiness later.
…I am glad, though, that you and your friend learned all of this, that you came to us to build Axis in the world. I just don't show it very well."
"So long as it's not that we're - failing to make it understood - it's not really any of my business how anyone feels about it." It's a free country, they'd say in America, except she's pretty sure it isn't so she doesn't say that. "I don't know if we're going to win. I just wasn't planning on waiting that long to be pleased about guns, because they're great, or medicine, which is objectively even better. And I'd expect that if Cheliax tries putting guns in the hands of their people they won't like who gets shot."
"Even if any soldier who'd rather not go to Hell could instead shoot their commander? Or do they not know that they work for Hell - this isn't important right now." But she knows the people she grew up with, and even if they were temporarily pretending to obey Hell they'd stop the instant they could, instead, fight.
He's a little too old and jaded for the hope that the people of Cheliax will see sense and turn against their evil overlords. They've had plenty of time for it, if they were going to do it without help. "You're right. Let's get back to the lectures. You two are doing a great job." He manages a smile.
"If there was a war already going on he'd of course join the other side of it. If there wasn't - he might wait for someone who looked like they had a shot, to join in then, or he might rebel right away, I'm not sure. It'd probably depend what our priest had to say but of course we hypothesize here that the priest is suddenly powerless… I am sure he'd never give them his oath. It's just - such a stupid thing to do, right, aside from an Evil one -"
"Probably they did. And their families. But I think that still leaves - more people who think they have no choice to play along than…people who think it's fine… I don't know. A lot of people were Nazis and it didn't even take a hundred years to get them to be like that. Though it also wasn't that hard, once you won the war, to get them to stop…. Part of me says that our job is to bring modern technology to Golarion and there are a thousand people more qualified to figure out Cheliax but part of me doesn't believe that at all and doesn't really think these people will get it right unless we help them."
"Yes. I think in hindsight it was stupid to not have thought of this more as a - political and diplomatic project, as much as a technical one. We thought we had a different political environment we were operating in, but - I spent a lot more time building guns than thinking about meeting Presidents and how to not offend them and how to be taken seriously while a teenage girl - you know, to Lastwall's credit, I don't think the 'girl' part's mattered -"
"I assume Lastwall has families somewhere - maybe none of the people in charge do, if they're like - monks and nuns or something. And then if they don't have families women can do important work - that sounds a little more plausible, with the surrounding tech level, and also really sad."
"- I have no idea how to make birth control. I did look into it when we were doing medications but it looked complicated and I gave up. You could probably do, like, surgical interventions made easier by priest healing - maybe once we've gotten through the first week we can ask questions about what Lastwall is like and get a sense of things like this -"
"Copper IUDs are mostly just copper - of course you need to have competent doctors to install them but maybe healing magic can help and even if it can't that's going to be easier than setting up a whole pharmaceutical industry. It's a shame biology is so complicated."
Iomedae could not keep up with all of the biology. She could really only keep up at things that she happened to find utterly delightful or that didn't require very much cleverness. All the biology she knows she already told Lastwall, on day 1: inoculation, and how to identify the bread mold that treats infections and consumption and the plague. (Hopefully even here there is a bread mold for that.) "It's a shame everything is so complicated. …I didn't want to say it in front of the President because I didn't want to sound like a naive child, but I think we're going to win. I think they're underestimating America, and underestimating how the thing - has its own momentum, once it's going."
"Of course they're underestimating America. They've never seen it, so they hear me explain blast furnaces and they think 'Wow, we can make swords and armor much more cheaply' and not 'We can build cars and trucks, we can make buildings out of steel, we can make all our tools out of good steel and use those to make more better tools faster, we can make steel ships and steel boxes and fill them with corn and feed a million people on the other side of the world.' I don't think they'll really understand until it gets going and they can see it for themselves. It's kind of unbelievable."
"That's an Americanism they made up to explain away the fact that Jesus hadn't done anything for a couple hundred years. I think it makes sense to trust Aroden more than the god version of you, you don't know anything about who you grew up to be besides that she started a military dictatorship and became a god, presumably by touching a magic rock that also ascended a mafia don and a drunk."
Iomedae says in Commune to do it, and approves the devoting-the-most-resources of the plans they propose to her, but commands that they adopt the more cautious of their proposed schedules, delaying substantially to buy more secrecy. Partner with Kraggodan as much as possible for the coal mining; do as much work as possible in Vigil, which is hard to infiltrate, and much of the work underground in the fortress itself.
Should they sell much of this information to the Church of Abadar? Yes. Confidentially and with a negotiated delay on the Church of Abadar's open use of it? Yes.
Do they need to fear external threats to the girls' safety and to continued custody of them? Unclear.
There is not much for anyone to notice - even an archmage who is paying Cansellarion and Lastwall particularly careful attention - for three months. They do partner with Kraggodan on the coal mining, and they use Teleports to move the fuel for their first blast furnaces, and they don't send anyone out of the fortress with the first guns.
(There are ripples, if you're looking closely. Lastwall's usual suppliers in Absalom have been procuring more boots of teleportation for them, but no new regular teleport routes materialize. The air above Vigil is always smokier in the winter, with the additional need for heating, but this year it's worse than usual, darker and sootier. Some call it an ill omen.)
The Church of Abadar pays them eyepopping sums of money, in secret. They offer most of these eyepopping sums of money to their teenage girls, in secret.
Iomedae is not richer than Bill Gates and intends to be impressed by nothing less. She does smile broadly at them, though, so as to encourage honorable behavior like paying your employees. "Thank you. Is it legal here to pay your government to make policy changes or is that bribery?"
"It's not illegal - it's illegal to pay the people in the government to make policy changes. But paying into the treasury - that's just a treaty, I guess." Not the sort of treaty that comes up very often, and when it does usually not with teenage girls, but these are some unusual teenage girls.
"All right. If you're importantly constrained on money I can try to think about things I want right now but I'll probably want more intelligent things next year so I'd prefer that." Iomedae has now read several history books but still feels like she barely has half a grasp on this new world, and also she has no idea how much diplomatic credit she has with these people. She does have the sense that proposing they become a democracy would be spending rather A LOT of it.
Alfirin wishes they'd paid more attention to history. She's pretty sure there were democracies before industrialization, America was already independent when the steam engine was invented - but she doesn't really know at all how you actually make one. She floats to Iomedae at one point that they could, actually, try to relocate to Andoran which is kind of a democracy and not doing the revolutionary France thing Galt is. She doesn't know much about revolutionary France except that a lot of people got their heads cut off and she's rather attached to hers.
Iomedae considers Andoran the likeliest place they should leave to, if they decide to leave Lastwall, but Cheliax could invade it immediately if they felt threatened by something it was doing and it's in fact probably unwise to be anywhere Cheliax could invade immediately if they felt threatened. She negotiates to own a bunch of the tools they're making; if they have to go to Andoran they won't be starting over entirely. (If Lastwall is duplicitous enough that the agreements of ownership are fake, then likely so are the assurances that they can leave if they choose.)
If Lastwall does not want to reclaim her money from her by agreeing to negotiations on how to run their country, then she'll …what do you even do with money in Golarion. Ask the Abadarans to hold onto it, probably.
"You could buy spells."
"We could both buy magic items - probably the ones Lastwall has loaned us are the ones most useful for what we're doing, but maybe there's more we'd want. I guess it won't hurt to buy spells, maybe even second-circle ones even though I can't cast them yet. I really do think the thing I'm relatively best at here is being an engineer, though, not a wizard. I haven't been using any of my spells most days except prestidigitation."
"Yes. There's a part of me that wants to be an adventurer and go fight monsters and get stronger and eventually - do half the things that the Goddess did in her holy books - but I'd probably die, and it's not actually where I'm needed, and all the moreso for you. …but if we're being tricked in some way, it's harder to trick a powerful wizard. And harder to kidnap one."
"Ooooh yes, it'll definitely deter kidnappers if they hear I can detect doors. After all, whatever cell they put me in, I'll always be able to find the way out as long as it's not locked... You're right, and I should work on it, it's just - I don't see it mattering, very much, in the next couple of years. Maybe I'll get second circle, maybe even third, but not fifth. And I'll probably need a teacher." Alfirin doesn't get along well with teachers when she's smarter and more knowledgeable than them, (or thinks she is) and always seems to feel ashamed or inadequate when she has to turn to someone who she acknowledges knows more than her.
"Not in the next couple of years, maybe. But - Golarion's not America. I worry it's not a place where you can get things done, if you can't resist spells cast on you and can't defend yourself in an ambush. …maybe instead of fretting about this, I should build you a really excellent gun." And she'll pull Alfirin in for a tight hug and then get back to doing that.
In the spring more ripples are detectable. They've hired more than a thousand people. They inoculate new conscripts against smallpox. The hospital for consumptives on the coast of Lake Encarthan - run by retired paladins - is rumored to have been blessed by the Goddess and to be curing them rather than just delaying the inevitable. On the other hand the smog over Vigil does not clear.
Can control weather fix smoke? They consult some priests and druids; The druids say that rain will fix smoke, by putting out fires and by washing it out of the air and into the ground where it will revitalize the earth. They try it; Vigil is still smokey, though less so, and the frequent rains aren't reassuring to the residents who were worried about ill omens. Alfirin warns that the flue gasses from industrial processes probably aren't great for the groundwater either, and the last few wells in Vigil are bricked up and replaced by a handful more priests with create water duties.
They have working radios. It'd be really nice to have working radios at the Worldwound. Iomedae proposes that they set up some very good transmitters and then have things Cheliax will be too scared to let their population hear playing on all the radios, thereby enabling radio adoption in all free countries and letting all the unfree ones shoot themselves in the foot. ….Earth metaphor.
…Iomedae was kind of expecting some pushback on this suggestion because Lastwall is not America and doesn't seem to want to be. Cool. They should do some audience message testing but she's pretty sure that what the people want is adventure stories, told in installments by an announcer who does really good voices and sound effects, and group prayer, and news, and sports broadcasts, and an advice column, and after dark an advice column that touches on marital matters. …the obvious thing to start with for Radio Free Avistan is the stories of the Shining Crusade, isn't it, it exists pre-dramatized in workable installments.
Possibly they should sell radios everywhere while initially only transmitting the sports broadcasts, and then introduce all the rest and force Cheliax to spend its time and state capacity cracking down on a technology that's easy to hide and easy to smuggle and even possible to build at home, which they're desperate to censor because it's possible to use to hear the story of Chelish heroes fighting in the Shining Crusade, or else to let it slide and let them talk directly into every Chelish home. They should maybe get some Chelish expats for market research, if they're going to try this, because Iomedae might be misguessing what people in Cheliax will want to hear, but those are the broad strokes.
…also they'll have to pick a dialect that's mostly mutually comprehensible and they'll probably lastingly effect some linguistic unification of Avistan thereby and if this inveighs in a different political direction than 'appeal to people in Cheliax' then they can do localization for Cheliax with good placement of towers, effectively make the Chelish-accessible edition of Radio Free Avistan a bit different than the other ones.
…Iomedae turns out to have a lot of opinions about how to run programming for a radio station. She is open to learning they're stupid opinions, it's just, a radio station is such a multiplier on your ability to talk to people and people are almost always Good deep down once you talk to them.
The announcer describes what's happening at the sports event. You wouldn't think this would be appealing to people but it turns out it absolutely is. Iomedae's not sure how well this will translate to popular sports on Golarion because she's not sure what those are but you could certainly do live commentary on chariot racing, if that's still a thing, or blow-by-blows on show fights though she has mixed feelings about encouraging a popular interest in those. Iomedae does not herself particularly understand the appeal of sports but she's pretty sure they're important.
So, in America, sixty to a hundred thousand people will gather in a stadium to watch two sports teams battle it out at American sports, which aren't very good because America doesn't have magic and no one is a legendary hero or can fly. They paint their faces and barely-dressed women do coordinated dances around the field. There will be fireworks. Fighter jets fly overhead. It's a big thing.
...None of that makes any sense to them and they're not sure how they'd put it on the radio if it did. Which seems for the best, at least in the case of the prostitutes. But. They can try to find some competitive sports and talk about them on the radio if Iomedae is really sure it's a good idea? Maybe start with the games in Oppara, those sound a bit more like what Iomedae's talking about than anything else they know of.
Oh, she's absolutely not sure it's a good idea. If no one's going to tell her that her opinions are stupid then she's going to have to learn this from trial and error and will presumably find that many of them were. But sports are really very popular on Earth and worth attempting to incorporate if they can figure out how.
Iomedae has listened to approximately half of one radio broadcast of sports but she can try to coach someone on how she thinks it's done. …also she should pick a new name. If she's going to be in the radio broadcast business and maybe even if she isn't. She gets the sense that people here do not name their children after their Goddess much.
"...are you trying to hint I should be spending more time on wizardry? I think it's - an approximation, not exactly 'things they are wearing' so much as 'things very close to their skin that move with them' - Maybe someone's found a way to make a rowboat that's as resistant to magic as the rower's clothes, but I doubt it."
"I think the main reasons it doesn't work on Earth are heat shielding, the acceleration forces, the noise, and the fact you'd need superhuman reflexes, and a magic item fixes half of those and powerful adventurers don't have the other half.
…oh, and fuel. I guess that's still a problem."
Radio Free Avistan has a slow, gradual launch, because people have to hear about it and purchase radios. The Church of Abadar has a frequency on which they have someone read aloud market values of various goods in various places, starting over when they get through all of the relevant goods, which is brilliant and Iomedae wouldn't have thought of it, good for the Church of Abadar. They soon thereafter launch another frequency which warns ships of storms and pays for itself in reduced cost of insuring them.
There are sports. There are prayers. There are animated tellings of adventuring stories (starting with ones less politically fraught than the Shining Crusade, to entice Cheliax to allow the sale of radios). There is an advice column and an after-dark advice column that still meticulously avoids using any actual descriptive vocabulary about the act being advised about.
None of it is discernably related to Lastwall; some wizard came up with this design, and sold it to the Church of Abadar, and is anonymous and now presumably fabulously rich. Lastwall does announce once radios are widely available for purchase that there is a frequency they will monitor for requests for help within their territory, which is just good sense; every other state that was organized enough for village temples to have scrolls of Sending will do it too. Including Cheliax.
Catherine suspects that Lastwall is involved, somehow. She had noticed the boots of teleportation being scarcer and tracked that to Lastwall's suppliers. Watching them more closely led her to notice when those same suppliers went and purchased a copy of every known first- and second-circle spell. It's a strange set of purchases for a powerful wizard, who would presumably pick some higher-circle spells too, and outside the typical budget of a second-circle wizard. When the radios first start appearing, made with a wizard's cleverness but nonmagical - it starts to make a bit more sense.
They intend to go public with the guns once there's enough to hand them out everywhere at the Worldwound at that point everyone else will presumably start desperately re-engineering, but at that point the lead will really be quite large, because these guns are made of metal alloys no one else has the slightest idea how to produce, and manufactured to a precision no one else can dream of attaining without quite a lot of magic help. (They asked their Goddess if they should wait even longer than that, until they have flying powered armor and so on, but she said no; The best guess of why is that this is much, much much slower than the open operations will be. Most smart people in the world aren't trying their hand with these tools yet and things will change a lot faster once they are.)
The person Catherine's riding along with spends his day crafting rifle barrels to ridiculous precision, while a person next to him checks if the precision from him and the other craftsmen is in fact adequate, which it only is about half the time. He is one of a hundred or so people spending their day that way. The smoke-producing processes must be elsewhere, but it's evident at a glance (if you're an archmage with a lot of engineering knowledge) that they're working with steel alloys no one else has, both for the rifles and for the tools that make them.
Morale is high. They know they're making secret weapons, really excellent ones, and they know that with these in hand their soldiers will be unstoppable.
Iomedae comes in to collect the latest round of rifles completed to the newest set of specifications. It's sometimes useful to talk to the people who made them, especially if the reject rate is kind of high and it has been for these batches. She waits until the mid-afternoon lunch break so as not to interrupt everyone in their work, though she still interrupts a couple of people working through lunch. She pets the most recently finished rifle like a beloved child and then asks if the specifications are no good or something.
So the person in charge is a child - or chooses to appear that way - in strange clothes that don't match any styles Catherine has heard of in Avistan or Garund or Casmaron or even Tian Xia. From Alkenstar, maybe, it fits with the smoke and the firearms - but it seems like these firearms are expected to work, reliably. So either there have been some breakthroughs in Alkenstar, which got exported to Lastwall and as of yet nowhere else - or something else.
The girl reminds her of Iomedae, a bit. Might be a distant relative, at least one of Iomedae's brothers had children, and Catherine can imagine the family might have fled Menador for Lastwall - or it could be a coincidence. Catherine's curious, though, and her curiosity about this lines up neatly with her curiosity about everything else going on here - she jumps over and follows the girl when she leaves.
She goes back to the firing range to test out the rifles that seem to be within tolerances. There's a Silence up, so she works without conversation, here. She's pretty good with the guns, though obviously the actual adventurers present are wildly better. The rifles do, in fact, reliably work. And at close range punch through steel; that's one of the things they're testing. (Another thing they're testing is alloys their guns don't punch through.)
And then out of the Silence to consult with - another teenage girl. In a different language. (It's not a Golarian language, but Catherine understands it fine anyways. Non-Golarian languages are the whole reason she did a permanent comprehend languages.) "They're getting about half of them within tolerances. Theorized it might have to do with the metal temperature, or the air temperature, or the hand of God. People seem very set on hypothesizing that their own allies are sabotaging our industrial processes to confuse us, when their allies are gods."
The other girl rolls her eyes. "It's not the hand of God. Quality control at the steel mills is pretty good - I wonder if it's the parts warping from heat from the machining, maybe we need to tell them to go slower, or use more water for coolant -" She prestidigitates her hands clean of grease from some device she was working on. "Let's go take a closer look at the process, shall we?"
"Works for me." She holds out her own hands, which have powder on them from firing the guns, and once they're fixed puts a strand of hair back behind her friend's ear. "The ones that are within tolerance can punch through enchanted steel at forty feet but not at a hundred. Unreliable in between."
"Or mithril but using the lightness to make it thicker rather than overall lighter, yeah. Though I note we've contributed notably less to mithril production - I'll suggest thicker armor to the President, they'll probably want to start training them with it soon if we're going to have the guns out within a season -"
"Might not be worth it. In the long run it's still a losing proposition, the guns will keep getting better - we might have a while without good personal ballistic armor until there's enough of a chemicals industry to synthesize you a real kevlar vest. Or a wizard comes up with something."
"In the long run it's still a losing proposition but for the war I think we'll have a forty-to-one advantage at steel production and that makes a lot of losing propositions look pretty good, if they are 'throw more steel at the problem'. Maybe we can at least run tests on thicker plates and see what it'd take. That's also useful for building tanks." They're thinking hybrid magitech tanks, probably, because proper tanks are very hard to build. Flying carpets surrounded by steel with holes to fire through are less hard to build.
"Good evening, Avistan. This is Freedom, reporting live from an undisclosed location probably somewhere inside Creation. If you tune over to 95.5, the Church of Abadar will certify that I have sworn to them this morning that to my knowledge no lie has ever been spoken on Freedom Radio. That was an easy thing to swear, as this is our first broadcast, but they're going to tell you every day when they last heard it from us. Freedom Radio is here to tell you the truth, whoever gets mad about it. That's why we're reporting live from an undisclosed location.
Now, some of our listeners are wizards in fancy towers, pulling out their crystal balls right now to try to learn who I am - good luck with that, wizards! But most of our listeners are ordinary folks, who saved up to buy or borrow a radio, or who went over to a neighbor who had one even though it's getting dark, because you wanted to hear how much grain's selling for near you, or whether there's storms coming. Maybe you know that on 97.7 there's dancing music, and maybe you know that on 97.9 there's sports, but you're not here for puzzles for wizards. What can the truth do for you?
Well, Freedom Radio's running because we think the truth can do very nearly everything. I can tell you what I'd do if my child was sick, and maybe it'll save yours. I can tell you if there's a war brewing, so you can hide what's precious to you when there are soldiers marching towards it. There are some things terribly wrong, in our world, and a world united can beat them into the dust, and a world that doesn't know what's true and what's a lie doesn't stand a chance. And I can tell you about the world to come, and line up some people who've been there who can tell you what you'll answer for when you face the Judge. There's a lot of things in this world that work because people are ignorant. And Freedom Radio is going to make sure that no one will ever be able to take advantage of your ignorance again.
So, welcome. It's an honor to have you listening. In time, we'll introduce a way for you to call in and talk back. Now, the news."
It's a one hour news segment, which is starting with extremely basic facts about Golarion like which continents it has and which countries are on them, hopefully not presented in an excessively condescending fashion. It has updates on the most recent battle between Cyprian's forces and whichever River Kingdom he's at war with today. It has news of a shipwreck in a storm on Lake Encarthan and another of a shipwreck in a storm near Goka. It has an informational segment about what to give your children to drink if they're diarrheal and an explanation of what causes excess bleeding in childbirth and what to do about it if there's no priest nearby. And it includes interviews with ten farmers in ten different places about what most often eats their animals and what they've tried to drive it off.
Iomedae waits smugly to see if Cheliax is now going to try to ban the entire concept of radio or not.
Yes, they are.
Abrogail is alarmed. Some of her idiot advisors are parsing this as a dumb idealistic Andoran scheme, which like the attacks on slave ships is going to alienate them from their neighbors as much as it inconveniences their enemies. Three more such schemes and they'll be able to conquer Andoran back; they're nothing to be afraid of.
But the kind of person who invents a nonmagical way of receiving unblockable messages sent from some secret location halfway across the continent is clever, and ambitious, and probably has a plan beyond 'aggravate everyone'. It would be stupid to wait to see what the plan is, before responding to it.
She orders a lot of scries. Not during the broadcast, when she's sure the girl is ensconced in a Mage's Private Sanctum, but over the upcoming days and weeks. She can't be in a Mage's Private Sanctum all the time - or if she is, that narrows down her location to a few possibilities. Sothis, which would fit with the Church of Abadar's evident involvement, but she can't really see the kind of woman who runs Freedom Radio being willing to live and work in Sothis. Morgethai's private demiplane, in which case the problem reduces to the known problem that Cheliax needs to soul-trap Felandriel Morgethai, and might be sufficient justification to bend Hell's resources towards at last getting it done. Razmiran but that's ruled out because Razmir is too stupid to do this and too evil to want to. Vigil, whose Castle Overwatch Arazni defended against all kinds of magical interference, but it's hard to imagine the paladins espousing the liberating power of truth and freedom either. Or Cyprian, who has the subtlety - but this isn't where he'd turn the engineering prowess -
The scries fail.
Well.
Well, Lastwall and Mendev's Worldwound forts can use radios for communications, and Andoran and Taldor and Qadira and Osirion and Rahadoum's ships may use them on the high seas, but Cheliax is Evil, and Evil is weak. Sucks to suck.
"I have to say, Lastwall is being better-behaved than I expected from a military dictatorship," Iomedae says to Alfirin.
"I don't know. They liked the show. They don't yell at their subordinates. They could be concealing it well, but people - don't seem scared. They don't hide mistakes. We haven't had any of the stupid things that you'd hear about from USSR space projects or whatever, people reporting things work that don't work, or stealing everything that's not nailed down, or sending us the supply numbers we wanted instead of the real ones - maybe magic just makes it easier to be an effective authoritarian state."
"Maybe. Truth spells, lots of people who are paladins and can't lie - I guess I can see how they might have fewer abuses of power or messy politics. Could also explain how Cheliax has lasted a hundred years - the truth spells, at least, since they don't have Paladins. I still want to go to Andoran once the war's over or - whatever else happens to make it so Cheliax can't just invade."
"Yep. Andoran - wants to be America, and Lastwall doesn't. …you know what Lastwall really is is a theocracy in a world where the gods do things, and it doesn't have good Earth analogues for that reason. None of our comparison points are going to be any good because there just haven't been Earth countries pointed at the service of an involved god since they were low-tech themselves."
"I think she died young," says Iomedae dubiously, who looked up Joan of Arc once after being told she was reminiscent. "The Catholic Church used to be a state and call crusades and so on. …maybe still is one, but just pretending their communes work?...there's so much more we'd know if we'd waited a few more years. Probably wouldn't have been worth it, even if the years are one to one and definitely if they're a hundred to one."
"Would've been worth it if we'd been learning the right things, I think, but we had no way to know what those were. I've been thinking about which things we didn't learn but we could've guessed that we should have - the only one I've come up with is that we learned how to make guns but not how armies use guns - World War I had trenches, but that's about all I know."
"Magic might make it more complicated anyway. I - don't know how good to expect Lastwall's execution to be. It seems like if you are paying all the costs of being a military dictatorship you should at least be a useful one and win all your wars but I'm not sure that's how that works. …do you suppose that the fact the other Iomedae was a tactical genius suggests I could learn. I have been assuming it requires, you know, genius."
"I don't think military dictatorships are good at winning wars?" She's not sure who is good at winning wars, besides America. "I think you could probably learn tactical genius, if she did. Unless she spent those four years of her life in a secluded monastery receiving training from the archangel Michael, in which case you might need to find that monastery."
"Joining us here today on Freedom Radio is Temos Sevandivasen , seventh circle cleric of Abadar. He's on the other side of a screen from me, in the service of my efforts to be hard for curious wizards to track down, but he's agreed to sit down with us for an hour and answer all your questions about Abadar. Archbanker, thank you for joining us."
"I was born and grew up in Kumura, a Vudrani kingdom that when I was a young man threw off Keleshite rule and had the opportunity for the first time to be governed independently. But the new state was badly in debt, and had many obligations that it was unclear if it could meet, and the people had been impoverished by centuries of exploitation and by the war that freed them. I turned to Abadar because I wanted to understand how to make a country rich, and His Manual of City-Building had a section on how a responsible governor could make a place rich through reliable rule. We arrived at agreements with our creditors - agreements to pay them in full, because a state like a man has only its word, and we wanted Kumura's word to be good. We set up a banking system. It took thirty years of hard work, but - Kumura prospered.
So much so that our neighbors grew jealous, and about six years ago they banded together to destroy Kumura and see it absorbed into a rival kingdom. The attack took us by surprise. We lost. I died there, but - I had insurance. I awoke in Absalom. I live and work there now."
"I don't know. Abadar opposes war. It is a terrible thing. Necessary, sometimes, but always destructive. Civilized people would be able to compare their strength and settle matters in a fashion both prefer to destroying one another. Of course, if you predictably won't fight back that invites people to try things - but it's one thing to defend yourself whatever your strength, and another entirely to spend a few decades in exile and then come back to revenge yourself on entirely different people descended from the ones who wronged you. I dream of returning, but - I would have to have good reason to think the people of Kumura would not thereby be wronged."
"Abadar is the Lawful Neutral god of cities, wealth, and justice. His domain in Axis is called Aktun, and it is a more prosperous place than any on Golarion, full of wonders that are hard to describe. The buildings reach straight up into the sky, and carriages carry people through the air and underground to their destinations, and nearly all of the people are dressed as kings, and about only that work which purchases them things they are willing to work to have."
"Well, gambling refers to all kinds of different things, right. There are games played in Vyre designed so you will always lose money playing them, preying on foolishness, and one probably shouldn't advisedly do that. There are games of skill, played for all the reasons that might participate in any other contest of skill, and the Church has nothing to say about that. We don't preach against people spending their money however amuses them, really, if they rob no one else in so doing. And then there are games of - divination. Say that in a room of people, one of them knows the truth of your identity, and all in that room are called to place bets on the result. That one will bet correctly, and will probably be willing to bet a larger share of his purse than those of us beleaguered by ignorance. The betting, then, will tend to favor the knowledgeable over the ignorant. This works even if the person doesn't know the truth of your identity but is just a better guesser than most people."
"By betting on whether you're a priest of Abadar, the priesthood of Abadar makes it the case that knowledge of whether or not you're a priest of Abadar is easy to make money off. And in general, by betting on many things, the Church rewards knowledge and punishes foolishness. Not ignorance - if you're ignorant and know it you can simply not bet - but foolishness will lose you money."
" - I am going to play a little game with you. I'm going to flip a fair coin, behind my screen, and if it comes up heads I will tell you truthfully whether or not I am a priest of Abadar, and if it comes up tails I will claim not to be one." There's the sound of a coin spinning. "Either I'm not a priest of Abadar, or the coin came up tails. Now what do you suppose are the odds on your market?"
Iomedae is a responsible radio host and spends most of the hour talking about things of more immediate relevance to her audience. But at the end - "I have one more question for you. There are several people in the Church who know for sure my identity. Why haven't they just bet in the markets, in the direction of the truth, with lots more money than anyone who doesn't know is willing to spend, and thereby clarify the matter?"
"Yes. We consider it - a favor He does us. Because a people who are held to their word by the power of a god can give it and be trusted even when the need may be very, very great. If we could break our word we would be weaker, not stronger. And the advice I would give a person among your audience who wants to serve Abadar is to meditate on that. Many people want to be a priest to have the spells, to have His favor, to be wealthy. But to work for Abadar is to be trustworthy, to make your word something that people can pay you for and have full faith in what they paid, and it's understanding that which makes one more suited to work for Him."
"Abadar selects as priests people who can do work that benefits Abadar and benefits them. It sounds strange until you realize it is how all free employment works. You offer people work if you want their work more than you want the pay you're offering them; they accept if they want the pay enough to do the work. There are many such numbers, for some employment relationships, and Abadar aspires to one in the middle of the range of possible ones, but - the core idea is very simple. We work for Him, in that He pays us to do things and we choose to do the things at that pay. He does not want our undying obedience, but our diligent work for as long as the relationship serves both sides."
"What a way to put it. The Church of Abadar insures merchant ventures, and condemns piracy, and loses money every time it happens. Are your tactical differences and some awkwardness on your balance sheets more important than the essential freedoms of thousands of people herded like animals across the Inner Sea on ships your church insures?"
"But see, then, how you tie yourself up in knots! You insure the ships, and so you don't like it when people sink them, even though you agree that those people are fighting among the most important evils of our world. Don't you think it's an uncomfortable situation, to profit so much from things you abhor that you get annoyed when people start ending them?"
"I think you could, as a principled matter, offer the loans and also be quietly pleased when the ships become uninsurable because the people who oppose this evil are too numerous. But I think you could also, as a principled matter, charge more for services that enable things you don't want, because it's - not a situation of a surplus being split between you - or, the abhorrence of what you're enabling changes what's a fair price, by quite a lot -"
" -you know, it's mostly just what I've already said. The institutional Church of Abadar was surprised by the plans to sponsor the pharaoh of Osirion, and it was a serious concern that it would give the appearance of ending our neutrality in geopolitical matters. The Church in Osirion is independent from the Church outside it, to partially assuage such worries."
Iomedae hugs her. Kind of wants to kiss her, actually, which is a new feeling. She's not sure if paladins are allowed to do that or not. She doesn't really want to ask anyone in Lastwall - maybe she can fold it into her on-air interview with a priest of Iomedae, in three weeks. "I wore intelligence not splendour for it. I should really see about getting both, at this point - I feel odd about spending huge sums like that, because Lastwall hasn't asked me to give back all the money they paid me, but I know their situation is moderately dire and I'd quite plausibly be glad I did give them the money, I just don't know how to know, and I don't know if they'd ask if it's actually severely dire or if they consider themselves honor-bound not to."
"You could just ask. They're paying me more than half in ownership of the industries, because I think they're shorter on gold than they are ownership in the industries. The gold's mostly for - you can't even buy the best headbands, so it's mostly for if I'm wrong about whether they'll respect my partial ownership when we leave -"
She nods. "I guess I should ask. I - I've been so busy that I don't know that it was an error not to try to get to the bottom of it, but I don't really understand them at all, as people. …I guess I'll learn about them on the air in three weeks. It'll be very authentic. The audience will love it."
"...You haven't sworn to an order yet, have you? You should probably do that soon - I can sit down and talk with you about what the oaths for my order are, though you ought to check with representatives of the other major orders too and get their perspective - Whichever one you pick, oaths are initially for a period of a year, and you'd renew them for the longer-term after that. Do you want to have that conversation with me now? I have things to do today but none that have to get done this morning."
"You're young and very busy with very important work - and with paladins who get empowered younger, before they've chosen or sworn to an order, we usually want to get them into an order quickly because the structure helps them keep to their principles and not stumble - and I guess nobody was thinking of that as a likely problem, with you."
"No, they're very reasonable. Reassuring about Iomedae as a god, really. They won't take my lifetime oath, for one thing, just a year for a trial, and they're - careful - I would swear to obey lawful orders from my leadership. …that's how America does it too but I don't think it's how America did it in the 1800s. It's just that I guess I've gotten so used to steering only by prayer and my own judgment that now part of me is hesitant even about swearing to obey lawful orders from someone who is trying to fight Cheliax and will be better at it with my help. Like I said. Kind of ridiculous."
"I don't have a leg to stand on calling your reluctance ridiculous when I very much am not signing up for any paladin orders myself - but I do see what you mean. Is it that you think sometimes you'll get lawful orders that are mistakes, or that you'd rather not follow for other reasons, or just the principle of signing away your ability to make the call for yourself -"
"I think it's that - when I planned to join a paladin order, I had contemplated the life path of giving my obedience to a husband, or the life path of giving my obedience to Aroden and to whoever He placed in my way, and it would've just been - silly, pointless, unproductive - to contemplate a life path where I simply did whatever I wanted. It wouldn't have worked. I would have failed to achieve any of my very ambitious life goals. And then in America - I wanted to serve Aroden, but I was very plainly going to have to figure out for myself what that even meant, and sometimes it was terrifying but I think on the whole I was glad of it, and also everyone would've been horrified at the idea of my giving a lifelong oath of service at age fifteen, and I guess that rubbed off to the point where it genuinely started to feel irresponsible. And so now instead of feeling like - the obvious way to get the leverage that I want, as the person that I am -
I guess I expect sometimes I'll get lawful orders that are mistakes, but even if I never did it's a little frightening to sign away the ability to decide for myself. Or - not just frightening but in a bad reference class - which I think is probably mistaken, but that's how it feels - like an irresponsible decision -"
Alfirin squeezes her tighter. "I don't think it's necessarily irresponsible of you - especially with the one year oaths - but you know you don't have to, right? You wanted to be a paladin before America, and the god Iomedae made you a paladin now, but - that doesn't mean you have to be one. You can say no, if that's what you want."
"I know. I think - I think I want to be one. The deal with the Abadarans about the radio show - it's a very elaborate very expensive workaround for 'when I speak, people know I'm telling the truth', which is very very important to me, and the world has an - institution for it, for being trustworthy and trusted. We're going to invade Cheliax and I want to make the people of Cheliax understand what paladins are so that they know what to expect and - why - and I could do all that without actually being one but I'd be - reinventing the wheel, right. Specifically I'd apparently mostly be reinventing the wheel that historical Iomedae invented. This seems like a really dumb use of my time!"
"I suppose one upside of being a future-shifted copy of the person who went on to invent the metaphorical wheel is that it's already been invented for you, by you. I think it makes sense for you to swear the oaths, then - they're compatible with doing all the work you're doing, right - and then see if you still feel odd about them after following them for a year."
"They are compatible with doing all the work I'm doing unless Cansellarion decides to order me to the Worldwound or something instead. Which I'm not really very worried about. And - yeah, the way to be in a position to make a more informed decision in a year is to try it and see if it feels like - abandoning my responsibility for making my own decisions - or just having more ways to make that responsibility transparent to people."
"...I'm not sure. I'll ask. If there is a ceremony I'd appreciate you being there. …oh I guess while I'm at it I should explain what finally prompted me to ask. I noticed yesterday that I wanted to kiss you, and I wasn't sure if paladins were allowed to do that or not. I obviously do not mind if you don't feel that way, I know most people don't, it's entirely fine, I think if you dislike it that'll probably make it go away at once."
"Yes. I think I made Cansellarion mildly uncomfortable, asking, because I do not think his Goddess got up to anything she would have to leave out of her holy books, but it is allowed. And they are pretty sure they'd have noticed if it was evil and it's not that either, not that I think we were in very much doubt."
Iomedae has a half formed objection about how that doesn't seem like the relevant reference class at all, probably most women who decide to wear men's clothes and be knights are not straight, but now she is distracted and delightful and can't assemble the words in her head. "Oh. All right." She does not really know how kissing is supposed to work but probably it's not harder to figure out than firearm manufacture.
Iomedae in fact considers inviting the President and telling him Cansellarion said she could bring a friend, just because while it would not make him crack a smile it would entertain her immensely. However she's pretty sure that's not how to do international diplomacy. She asks Alfirin to be there, and to help her read over all the oaths in advance one last time and make sure she didn't miss something that's unreasonable.
Then that's that, then. She's terribly nervous but she thinks only because she is correctly identifying this as a big decision important to get right, rather than because it feels like a bad one.
(She notifies the President and the rest of his team at the next big high-level strategy meeting, which is sooner than Oathday, and says that she assumes that they're very busy and that their attendance would be notable and so does not expect it, and that she won't mind at all if they just miss it but that if they wanted to do something helpful to her to commemorate the occasion they could tell her some time when it's convenient how they decided to take the oaths of Lastwall leadership. She is pretty sure this is closer to how to do international diplomacy.)
The workshops under Vigil are warded pretty heavily against all the traditional divinations, which means that Catherine is forced to do all her espionage here in person. It's not her favorite way to learn what Lastwall is up to - if it goes badly it would both reveal her involvement and her status as a powerful spellcaster - but she's under a mind blank and she's never yet encountered an organization that performs routine random exorcisms on their employees - it's almost safe. She rides along with a different worker in the morning and hops over to Iomedae's friend when she sees her in the workshop checking one of the devices. With any luck if she does this regularly enough she can be present for a strategy meeting.
"Well this belt's starting to get a bit worn down and I was going to replace it, but that's a whole trip downstairs and across the street - it can wait, nothing's going to explode. Just let me finish updating the log. I know it's not a sensible prioritization but as far as personal convenience goes, I really wish we'd done ballpoints first, rifles second…
…done. I'm all yours."
"Gosh," says Iomedae, delightedly, and locks the door behind them. "You know, I have this terrible problem now where I'll be doing my work, going about my business, and suddenly a voice in my head will say 'did you know that Alfirin is the most beautiful person in the world?' It does this…once or twice an hour. Maybe three times."
There is a moment of panic - how did she find out - how is that at all a sensible response to finding out - before the alternate hypothesis even occurs to her. The other girl, the one who doesn't resemble Iomedae and bear her name - she is Sarkorin - it - still doesn't make any sense. Why? How? - these girls are younger than the real Iomedae and Alfirin were when they met, younger than they were before either joined the Crusade -
"I don't think it would work, anyway. I have a suspicion that the voice in my heart that names you the most beautiful in all the land is assigning a lot of credit to your personality, and your brilliance, and your knowledge of industrialization, and your political opinions no one born to this beknighted planet really stands a chance of improving on, and your smile, and the way you tease me, and -" She has gotten distracted. They should kiss some more. Shapechanging outfits are really convenient for kissing.
This is simultaneously incredibly informative and incredibly confusing and incredibly upsetting. She would like it to stop, now, but there's nobody else around to jump to - she could just leave but then she'd appear, right there, and that would panic them and raise alarms - she could put them both to sleep, but that would almost certainly alarm them too -
"Wasn't much to decide, by that point," Jan tells Iomedae over tea later that day, "I'd been serving for decades, I'd already sworn half a dozen oaths of office. When they asked me to be Lord-Watcher, I was thinking about the responsibilities of the office, not the oaths. The responsibilities are what matter, here. The oath is just putting those into words."
"That's right. It just - applies a lot more, when you're a junior paladin taking her oaths for the first time, or a junior officer fresh out of the war college, than it does when you're my age taking the oaths to be Lord-Watcher... I'd love to tell you I was thoughtful and responsible about it when I was fresh out of the war college but I can't. I took the oaths because that's what officers of Lastwall do, and by the Goddess I wanted to be an officer of Lastwall."
"Becoming one of Cansellarion's people? It tells us a bit more about what to expect. I think we've had some trouble planning around you and Alfirin but - a lot of that is just that you're bringing some very new things to the world. You're not very hard to plan around, personally, but radio broadcasts and 'Watt engines' are."
On Oathday Iomedae goes to the Cathedral de Sancta Iomedaea to make her vows to Cansellarion’s paladin order. She’s still nervous, and still pretty sure that her nerves reflect her correctly understanding the decision to be a significant one, rather than some part of her warning herself not to do it. She really genuinely expects Cansellarion to continue being a reasonable person when she is committed to his order, and if he’s not there isn’t actually a cheaper way to find out.
She spends a slightly embarrassing amount of time fretting over what to wear. Not the cyberpunk jumpsuits, she doesn’t wear those out of the facility. A dress seems just as wildly inappropriate. Most paladins wear armor but she hasn’t in nearly five years and would be incompetent in it, and it seems like that undercuts all the symbolism -
(Alfirin may notice this predicament because she’s anxiously making the sleeves of many garments swing back and forth between everything from an Imperial Taldane gentleman’s riding outfit to an xkcd tshirt.)
“I thought about enlisting for access to training on modern US military systems, and their military mostly just fights wars in the Middle East that don't accomplish anything! Cansellarion wants to take my homeland back from Hell! I’m being completely ridiculous!”
She ended up not enlisting because training on modern US military systems wasn't going to be useful, there was no way they could memorize and learn enough to build them. But the vows weren't in fact prohibitive.
"Yep. Completely ridiculous. Like absolutely everyone going into a big life-changing ceremony... maybe not like people with a few more paladin powers whose god has given them immunity to stage fright. But like every other normal human being in this situation." She'd be kind of sad if Iomedae were the kind of paladin who never felt afraid. Depends how it works, really, but it seems like it'd be losing something good along with the bad, there.
"Don't they mostly sign up and swear the oaths before they get magic powers about it? I'm sure this is perfectly normal and they see it every year. I've heard you're supposed to imagine something completely ridiculous, for stage fright. Should I come up with suggestions?"
"I don't know if I could stand the discipline - or take seriously any army without any, I guess. Maybe I can talk Zima - no, not him, Valentina, she's slightly less grumpy - into starting an army corps of engineers and appointing me colonel or something. Let me design the uniforms… No, still too much discipline I think. Sorry, dear."
"You know, you could make a decent living, reading the newspapers -" Now she's sad and a little homesick. She thinks it's kind of stupid to be homesick for a place she never wanted to go back to but persists in it anyways.
"...Anyways, while I am happy to stand here and look pretty - striking? I imagine I probably look more striking than pretty in this - we were trying to figure out what you can wear."
The Cathedral de Sancta Iomedaea is very very nice. It's hard to imagine the Lastwall leadership she's met authorizing spending this much on an incredibly nice cathedral. Maybe magic makes the economics make more sense. There's a wildly-more-than-life-sized sculpture of the goddess, with Aroden's eye on her shield, holding a blazing sword aloft.
It's nice in the way she associates with Arodenite Taldor, beautiful to prove you can make beautiful things, grand to prove you can make grand ones. Not because it is easy, but because it is hard and we're better at hard things than the Russians.
She hadn't been expecting the shield with the eye of Aroden. For some incredibly stupid reason; of course the goddess Iomedae had a shield with her god's holy symbol on it. Iomedae's heart hurts a little.
No one's staring at her but it feels like everyone's staring at her.
The ceremony is not as short as it possibly could be; It does not have a ton of extraneous detail, but Cansellarion does give a speech, and each initiate walks to the front separately to kneel and take their oaths. They pray together, at the end, rather than individually, for the Goddess Iomedae to hear their oaths, and to help them keep them, and to hold them accountable should they fail.
It doesn't feel instantly right and perfect once it's done, like all her worries were nothing really. It also doesn't feel like a grave mistake. It feels like -
Like she's been a free person since she turned eighteen and now she's something more complicated than that. Maybe better, but definitely more complicated. She asks the Goddess Iomedae to end the evil afterlives and it doesn't feel quite the same as asking Aroden but that's got to be in her imagination.
Is there something she's supposed to do after this.
Not exactly supposed to. The other initiates are standing around socializing, being congratulated by their friends and their families and Cansellarion - some people are at this point staring at her a bit curiously, probably because she showed up for the ceremony and took the oath and was definitely not in training with the rest of the initiates who all seem to know each other. One of them does eventually wander over and ask. "Aina, was it? How did you come to join the order?"
She should make friends. It is known unhealthy to have one friend, who is also your entire support network, who is also your coworker, who you are also sleeping with. "I'm sorry, it's not just a bit of a long story but also a bit of a secret one. And yes, I'm going by Aina. Marit, right?" He was one of two in the ceremony. It must be a popular name. It was in the holy book, too, so maybe it was a popular name in her time and just not in her part of Taldor.
She picked the name to imply it. It's true, but still kind of misleading to be implying. She looks at her shoes. "Well, if you're guessing instantly I think the secrecy-related error has to be on my end. How about you, are you from here?" This is differently excruciating than high school in America but she's not actually sure it's less so. Which is fine. She figured out high school in America eventually and at least here people share her basic premises about the functioning of the universe.
Yeah she's going to be substantially handicapped at making friends by the secrets. She's really not very much of a secrets person, temperamentally. She misses her father and there's nothing she can say that's not either outright false or wildly misleading - if she says 'my parents are dead' that means different things, in modern Cheliax - "When did you decide that you wanted to be a paladin?"
"I guess I was mostly comparing to having a lot of children, who could themselves be soldiers. Or to being a wizard before it became clear I'm not smart enough. It seemed to me like probably being a wizard was the best way to fix the entire world all at once by yourself, but only if you were very good at it, which turns out to be quite the catch."
"Right, it'd be a terrible idea to have all the paladin orders celibate and breed lawful goodness right out of your population like an unfavorable color of sheep. But my mother's theory, and she did have half a point, was that women who'd make good paladins should instead have five sons who'd probably inherit the aptitude and who could pursue it without choosing between that and children." Iomedae lacked the vocabulary to articulate her disagreement at the time. She's vaguely curious if her mother was ever persuaded. It would be sort of like her to be unpersuaded even when Iomedae won the war and became a god.
"I figured that it was the sort of puzzle easier to sort out if one was a god, and yet the gods did pick women sometimes so it couldn't always be decided in the one direction. I think if I were arguing the point with her now I'd say that it is bad for societies and the people in them if only men in them hold power because there are concerns they will miss, and that a person really has much stronger evidence about their aptitudes than they'd arrive at reasoning from first principles, but at the time I didn't know to say either of those things so I said we'd see if I got chosen or not."
"Thank you. I think probably my mother is happier now, but I do sort of wish fewer secret things had happened and I could complain to more people about all of it. …does the Goddess not choose on a schedule, if you've got something else you're planning to go do if you're not going to be a good paladin? It really seems like it'd save people a lot of time to be predictable that way - you could have two tracks, 'this is what I want to do regardless, pick me in thirty years if that's what makes sense' and 'make up your mind within one'..."
"... probably better under different circumstances. Not that I wish it hadn't happened, I've never once wished that, but - I think if I had chosen the order first, and satisfied myself of all my questions about the Goddess, and - been able to tell the people I'd have wanted to tell - then it would be a very beautiful memory, probably. I wouldn't have wanted Her to do anything different. I guess I want to live in a different sort of world, but - that's why we've got to build it, right."
"Like - like I spent all this time in this context where it was universally agreed that I was supposed to listen to someone who it had been decided was more qualified than me to decide what things happened to me, and even when she was right and I didn't disagree it shouldn't have been her choice, because she didn't have all the context - couldn't have all of the context - not that I had all the context, either, but it was my life - and I expect I'd have a different set of fears if Evelyn had been bad at her job but in fact she was good at it and it's just that everyone agreed she had the right, and so all of my ability to act in the world ended up - compressed and narrowed to pass through one person -."
"Yeah - in a way it doesn't matter whether she was right or wrong, just that she was getting to decide and we weren't - obviously it matters in a different way that she wasn't terribly wrong all the time, but - for what was bad about being a foster child, separate from what might be bad about having a bad foster parent - what matters is that we weren't free. And now you're feeling like you're again not free, even though you chose it."
"Yes. And I think I thought of being an adult, being fully a person, as - getting to be the one who decided. And obviously it would've been very different for both of us if Evelyn had said 'hey, I'll feed you both and get you an education but you have to follow my rules', we'd plausibly both have taken her up on it, we wouldn't in fact have been unfree. Free people can agree to be predictable for various reasons - can want to - I don't want to be free to lie on the radio - It's not actually very similar at all. But there's a part of me that doesn't see the difference, and that - doesn't know how to have someone have power over me without panicking. …and that is making Cansellarion a really excessive share of my mental universe. I really do not think 'try to make my boss happy' is a good use of half my thoughts."
"Oh no. That's far too many of your thoughts…I think something a lot like that is why I don't want to enlist with Lastwall myself. Right now I'm free to tinker with engines and build factories and teach people chemistry and physics and stuff and - if I worked for Lastwall I would have to tinker with engines and build factories and teach people chemistry and physics and stuff and it would be awful."
Iomedae laugh-sob-hiccups. "Yep. That. Except that - I really do want to be a paladin, so I've got to figure it out. I guess I will wait a couple of weeks and see if it dies down once I get a sense of how they've actually changed how they treat me, and if it hasn't then I will….complain to you again."
Alfirin pulls her in close so she can pet Iomedae's hair. "Yeah, see if it changes in a couple weeks - and, worst case, it's a year. Even if it never gets any better - you're strong. You can do this for a year and then - we can figure out some other oaths for you, that get what you want from them even if you don't have anyone commanding you - I bet the other paladins would be okay with that. Maybe it's leaning a bit on your god-self's reputation but - I bet they'd be okay with it."
Catherine broods. Almost certainly this is all some elaborate trick, quite likely a trap laid for her specifically - who else, after all, would have any interest in Alfirin? It's not the work of Lastwall, which could mean Lastwall is another intended target - she is not sure whether or how to warn them, if so. It's not the work of Cheliax but that does not mean it's not the work of Hell. (If it is the work of Hell, Lilia is not safe where she is, but Catherine cannot think of a way to make her safer that doesn't throw away crucial assets in the cases where it's not Hell's doing.)
The problem is, despite being facially ridiculous, it could very well be real. It probably is real, or near-enough to it, even though it is a trick. Lastwall could not possibly have failed to check with their Goddess, whether the person appearing to be Her younger mortal self really was that. Somehow, whoever arranged this managed a real, genuine copy of Iomedae. As a child. And if they did that, why not Alfirin as well?
(She is trying not to dwell on the fact that the two of them are happy and in love. She is trying not to dwell on the fact that this Iomedae seems to want to stay human, mortal, herself. She is trying not to dwell on the experience of sex that was, somehow, so much worse than any other instance in her centuries of grudgingly tolerating other people's sex lives. She's trying not to dwell on how safe and unafraid the other Alfirin seems to be.)
(She is not really succeeding at any of those.)
Another person might turn to a friend or confidant for advice, but really, who can Catherine turn to for something like this? There's only one other person on this plane with the relevant context and there is no way that Catherine is going to go speak with her.
"This is Freedom Radio, reporting live from an undisclosed location. We're on this week with a priest of the goddess Iomedae, here to tell us about perhaps the most famous mortal woman ever to walk the earth. You've heard the stories of the Shining Crusade, but what kind of goddess does that legendary hero become? Thank you for joining us, Captain Aarind."
"I am sure someone will start a radio show for flattering priests with straightforward questions. And perhaps the people who think I am disrespectful will prefer to listen to it. But we heard from the Church of Abadar that many listeners, all around the world, were chosen by Abadar as they heard us speak of Him. I think our gods are served by our comprehension, and our comprehension is served by asking uncomfortable questions. So, Iomedae. Tell us about her. Chaotic? Evil?"
"No, not at all. Quite the opposite, in fact. Iomedae is a Lawful Good god, which means that She is principally interested in pursuing the happiness and wellbeing of mortals, and that She thinks these aims are best served by - in Her case, through organizations created for the purpose of promoting the good or for the purpose of opposing Evil. Other Lawful Good gods instead favor the bonds of small communities, or the growth and strengthening of cities and nations."
Iomedae wants to be a responsible radio show host and so she'll go through the other basics too - where is Iomedae's divine realm, what was she like as a mortal, what are her teachings, what sorts of people does she pick as priests - before she can start asking Aarind all her real questions.
"Is Lastwall a free country?"
"I think there are many elements of freedom," Freedom says thoughtfully. "The right to listen to the radio, or to speak on it. The right to speak before a court, or own land, or demand recompense if soldiers passing through take their things… I think Lastwall lets all people do those things, or maybe all people who can seem reasonable and meritorious.
The right to choose their leader, or how their taxes are spent, of course no one in Lastwall possesses."
"No, not at all. The country where I have seen political freedom best executed was mostly cities, and very rich. But in every city, the people voted for a representative, and the representatives all got together and conferred and chose the President, and so every adult, landowning or not, knew that their armies were commanded and their laws decided by a person they or at least their compatriots had chosen, and if they didn't like how it was going they'd pick a different one. That is a kind of freedom, I think, and Lastwall doesn't have it."
"Well, I can imagine a few ways that might be true. One is that Lastwall's people are very foolish, and don't know what they want, and would choose badly who was in charge if they got to choose. We don't give toddlers freedom, as they'd wander off and be eaten by bears. Is that the reason you are thinking of?"
"So the people of Lastwall would do a pretty good job, probably, of choosing their leaders, but not as good a job of it as Iomedae can do Herself. Like how a boy of twenty training to be a smith can make a pretty good horseshoe, but not as good as his master, probably. Only, if his master never lets him make any horseshoes, he'll never have the chance to surpass the master."
"I see what you're saying but - it does not seem right, to choose the leaders and laws of an entire country that way. The consequences of choosing a bad ruler or a bad law are far, far worse than those of making a bad horseshoe, and fall on many people. It seems to me that it's wronging those people, to expose them to those consequences only so that they can get practice deciding. Even if some of them might, with practice, become better choosers than the ones who decide now, I think that not all of them will."
"Well I wouldn't say that the only point of political freedom is to train people in the choosing of leaders, though it's among the advantages. Another point is that duties we've chosen are easier to take up than duties assigned to us. Does Iomedae order people to join her church and become her priests? Are those She empowers considered so ordered?"
"But that's precisely what a country is! It issues orders to those who have never taken any oath to follow them, or else requires those oaths in the first place. A man cannot grow up in Lastwall and decline to pay taxes or follow laws because he never agreed to do that, can he?"
"I am glad of that. It's very important. But philosophically, I think every demand that people obey orders from an authority they did not choose is on shaky ground, and so it is good when people choose their government. It is not the only good. If Lastwall fails in its duties, we will all die horribly, and I will readily admit that it seems important for us to not all die horribly. Lastwall is perhaps unique in how little it could weather a single fool of a ruler, because its watch cannot be interrupted and the other wars wouldn't do much better.
But - but I would say that this is an injustice that was done to Lastwall in its founding, that it was saddled with a task that had no affordance for error and therefore no affordance for political freedom."
"I think that you believe this because democracy is in its infancy, and no one you've ever seen has a lot of practice at it. And of course when Iomedae chose to make her state as it stands, democracy was not even in its infancy, and there was nothing even to try to improve on. …and some of the truth of this matter depends on how smart gods are, exactly, and how much they improve even on the best possible popular judgment. But I think that the people of Lastwall are - treated as children, in having a government in which they have no say, and the benefits of the treatment are real but the costs hard to measure. …should we argue about something else?"
"So, say you see a slaver ship on the high seas, and with just a little bit of banditry you could take three hundred free people to the nearest free port. And maybe not make it to Heaven, but Nirvana's all right too. Does Iomedae say you shouldn't do this?"
Oh, this one he prepared for.
"Iomedae does not command us to attack slave ships, nor does She forbid it. In this sort of matter, She instead teaches us how to properly go about it - If Lastwall were to decide to put an end to the slave trade in the inner sea, we would not do so with random, unpredictable attacks on slave ships. There would be - a declaration of war, I suppose, against all slavers, and a set of procedures that our captains would follow when demanding a ship's surrender, and courts to ensure that all our captures were legal and to compensate any merchants we troubled who were not carrying mortal cargo. An individual Iomedan ship's captain, unaffiliated with Lastwall or any other Iomedan order, might engage in a private crusade against slavery, in which case the teachings of the Goddess would still be to do so openly, without trickery, to demand surrender rather than attack without warning, to compensate those wrongly detained, and so on."
"So all of those things could be justified two ways, or at least I can think of two ways, and maybe your church with more practice justifying them could justify them some more ways after that. The first way makes reference to the fallibility of mortals. Sure, I might say, for a truly just cause it would be worth conducting oneself in an underhanded manner, but many people are wrong about their cause or wrong that their actions advance it. By committing to ask for surrender and avoid trickery, the Iomedaean captain saves himself if he is in error, and it is error that his rules protect him from.
This explanation proposes the question: does Iomedae have to care about the rules? She's a god. She's not in error."
"Even gods can err. Aroden did, one assumes, or else His plan is far beyond our comprehension. But even setting that aside - there is a power in being predictable. In following the rules so that you are seen to follow the rules - Only attacking following a declaration of war, or the like, means forfeiting the element of surprise, but it also means that anyone who you have not declared war on knows that they are safe, that they do not need to fear a surprise attack from you, that they can make themselves vulnerable in approaching you and you will not take advantage of them doing so. It means a lot more opportunities to work with people to get things you both want, even people who might be your enemies - or imagine themselves to be your enemies - in other circumstances."
"That was the second explanation that I thought of! It's related to what Sevandivasen spoke of. People know Abadarans won't steal their money, and so people will put their money in an Abadaran bank, when they'd otherwise be fools to trust it to a stranger. This is a gift Abadar gives His priests, even if the form the gift takes is the fact He might strike them dead on the spot about it; they are stronger for the fact He might do that, not weaker, because it is worth so much to be known to be trustworthy. If people know Iomedans will respect their surrender, will war with them only openly, will be straightforward in negotiations, then this is a gift She gives Her priests. Assuming they can hold to it. 'Don't steal money' is simpler than 'war only openly'. If a listener lives in Cheliax, and will die the minute that they war openly with House Thrune, should they war secretly, or not at all, or should they just plan on dying?"
"I must admit, the teachings of the Goddess for countries like Lastwall and for free people are likely not the best possible advice for people who are not free. If there are listeners in Cheliax who find themselves more called to Milani's path - I can hardly fault them for that. I myself would probably choose that way, living under the Thrunes. Though dying in the fight against evil is often not the worst fate that a man might meet."
"I have taken an oath of honesty," says Freedom, "and some time after I first considered myself bound by it I was taken prisoner in a foreign country, and made a kind of indentured servant, which is a position in which honesty is very difficult. The hardest part was not actually that I feared I might die, if I was asked the wrong question, though I did fear that. The hardest part was that I feared I might get other people in trouble with me, and they would rightfully be very angry with me, for having made an oath that now obliged me to betray them to their captors.
If I could speak now to myself then, I would tell her that - that to draw a line in the sand and say you'll die before you cross it is the freedom it is most difficult to deny people, and the most precious one I've ever known. To take up the hand you've been dealt and decide the point past which you will refuse to play it is to be a free person in secret, no matter what those who have power over you believe you to be. For a while it was my greatest source of strength.
...but it is reasonable to choose not to draw one's personal line in the sand at 'ever lying'.
And it makes sense for Iomedae's banner to mean certain things to all who see it, things that one cannot make true alone in enemy territory, such that one should not take that banner up where one cannot make those promises come true. In sufficiently difficult circumstances the promises one makes to oneself should be different ones than She made, as the champion of a great Crusade, as a god.
But it seems to me that one is walking in Her footsteps, whenever one tries to figure out who they'll be even if the world is trying to make them worse than that, who it is that they will refuse to ever stop being. There is following Iomedae by keeping the promises She was known for, and there is trying to be like Iomedae, by making your own."
Iomedae is kind of expecting the next high level strategy meeting to be awkward because she went on the radio and called their country unfree. She is giving them a fair bit of credit that Cansellarion has not ordered her to cut it out. Her father would at this point have ordered her to cut it out.
Fortunately they're all politicians and are presumably experienced at being diplomatic even if they're annoyed with her.
She was planning to pressure him into it by getting Codwin and Cyprian first. She looks at the table, a bit sheepishly. …then she realizes that he is joking, and that she got him to make a joke, and then she is delighted. "You are going to take this as the strongest case yet against democracy but in America the president takes questions from reporters every week. They stand in a crowd with their microphones and shout them at him."
(from an August 2014 press conference which I selected at random, drafted before recent events, resemblance genuinely coincidental):
"You've said there should be a ceasefire in Gaza, but how can Israel agree to that when today one of their soldiers was kidnapped? Also, have you seen the Israeli government respond at all to your call for them to do more to protect civilians?" and "Do you think you could have done more to prevent the Russian invasion of Ukraine?" and "Mr. President, you've called for a ceasefire in Gaza, you've also called for a ceasefire in Ukraine, with no more success there. Has the U.S. lost its global influence? Have you lost yours?" Iomedae liked listening to Obama's press conferences. She found them very instructive. She can do voices for all of the reporters.
"No, he absolutely needn't answer, but the people of his country will form opinions about whether his Ukraine policy and his Gaza policy are any good, and they'll vote for Romney if he's doing a bad job, so if he wants to stay in office his explanations had better be satisfying." Iomedae herself preferred Romney, but she didn’t in fact think that Obama was doing a bad job. He was so, so good at explaining himself.
"What if his policy is good but it doesn't sound very good - if reporters were shouting at me asking why we're not at war with Cheliax I don't think I could give an explanation that would satisfy the average farmer, but I still think our policy of keeping to our international commitments even when it's inconvenient is the right one."
"...I think I have three answers. One is that I do think America gets into far more dumb foreign wars than Lastwall does according to its histories, in part because its commitments are no more durable than 'until sixty in a hundred senators votes to change this', though also I'm not convinced by the example of Cheliax that countries should make long-term commitments more durable than that. Maybe they should be eighty senators of durable, or even a hundred senators of durable, but - there's something to having an escape valve which will clearly only operate under extreme circumstances. The second is that I suppose even if we shouldn't go to war with Cheliax there's something to having people ask us to defend it. I don't know. I used to ask Aroden every night to fix the Evil afterlives already. I didn't really believe that he had the means to do it and would just forget if I didn't remind him, but - but it's a way of being in the habit of noticing the question, right, and not being someone who never wonders.
The third and most practical answer is that America has three hundred million people in it and the President is the most persuasive and compelling and comprehensible one and I am nowhere near his rival, at making complicated decisions sensible to people. I probably will be in twenty years."
"Yes. People like it when their rulers make sense to them and make the world make sense to them. You can interpret this as idiocy, or as - all of you would I suspect be unhappy if Iomedae appointed an outsider with no comprehension of Lastwall's culture as your ruler, even if he was a genius at all of war and foreign policy and lawgiving.
I can imagine it, some American who has the advantage of you at war and law because his world has more study of it and who happens to get along splendidly with Cyprian and Galfrey but who is an American, and eats absurdly sweet foods in absurdly large quantities and has no reverence for your gods and considers it mildly impolite to mention that they exist and who is licentious because a lot of Americans are, and you might work for him but you wouldn't like it, and every time a different woman left his chambers undressed except for being smeared in an exotic chocolate sauce he imported from Casmaron you'd feel - diminished, no matter how brilliant his tactical decisionmaking, because he doesn't care about the things you care about, and doesn't even know they're there to care about, and has never been subject to the constraints you are subject to and cannot recognize grace within them.
I think this is how the people of a country usually feel about their rulers.
No one likes to be ruled by strangers who cannot know their lives or make themselves understood to them. And no one likes to be unable to evaluate those who have power over them, they want those who have power over them to display those signs they can recognize as signs of familiarity and allegiance and shared values.
In democracies when people get a choice they choose to be ruled by people who are comprehensible and likeable and feel like allies and friends to them, at the expense of other concerns. Some part of that is foolishly underrating the other concerns, some part of that is a preference as entitled to significance as any other. I don't know how much is the one and how much is the other.
But I do think that the fact people, given a choice, grasp ravenously for something that their rulers don't agree matters and would never otherwise think to give them is an argument for democracy, not against it."
"...okay, that's true, but only very technically. We sent them a note. It said that when the worship of the Good gods is permitted in Cheliax and when Cheliax's children grow up healthy and happy and strong and when newspapers telling the truth are sold in Chelish street corners, we'll be happy to host them on the show. And we will, though I'll tell you how that's almost certainly going to go down.
House Thrune is losing. Many of you have been lied to about history, so let me spell it out. In Aspex's time, the Empire - the greatest power in all of Avistan - stretched as far north as Lastwall and Varisia and as far south as some holdings on the Mwangi coast. The Empire grew and prospered until Aroden's death, and then it collapsed into thirty years of devastating civil war, egged on by Asmodeus. Now, let me tell you some things about thirty years of war. The ordinary people die, when the soldiers take all the food they need for the next harvest. Disciplined soldiers moving through their own territory will have enough sense to leave some food. But as the war dragged on, the soldiers got worse. The first year that you leave a family with barely any food for winter, their children die, and their elderly. The next year, or maybe the year after that, they all die. Then the people in the cities where the food was taken die too. People get out, if they can, and starve, if they can't. No natural war I know of has endured as long as this one at the intensity of this one; it endured so long only because Asmodeus was making it.
Asmodeus robbed Cheliax, crippled it and leached it and starved it, for thirty years, until he could puppet some cowards to the top of the pile of corpses he'd made of their country and declare them in charge.
But the people of Avistan are brave, and noble, and they're not idiots. And you'd have to be an idiot, to work for Asmodeus. Your only reward is eternal torture. If he says anything else, he's lying. It's worse than dealing with the fae. So the people of Avistan? Rebelled, either during the civil war or as soon as it was clear who Hell had placed atop their mound of corpses. Rahadoum broke free. Molthune and NIrmathas broke free. Varisia broke free. Korvosa broke free. The holdings on the Mwangi coast broke free.
Pezzack rebelled, and the Thrunes had to burn one of its own richest and greatest cities to the ground because they realized they'd never see peace from it. Galt broke free. Andoran broke free.
Once, there were twenty archduchies. Now, there's five to go.
One of those five is the place I'm from. I promise you, when I tell you what the Chelish people have been robbed of, I am not judging you. You had no way to know the worth that is your birthright and your inheritance, that was ripped from your hands by the Church of Asmodeus. You have felt, perhaps, the aching absence of something, something that should have been yours, but you did not know the words to put to it. I will be there to take it back with you. I know what we're supposed to be.
Five to go. We'll get them. It'll take longer than I'd like, and more people will die than I'd like, but I truly expect that all of Cheliax will rise up and have their freedom, in our lifetimes, or by the work of our lives, because we will certainly many of us die in the doing.
And then we'll legalize the worship of good gods, and bring good modern medicine and invent even better more modern medicine, and we'll allow any newspaper that speaks the truth, whether the people in power like it or not.
And then we'll put every priest of Asmodeus who participated in Asmodeus's butchery of our country on trial for their crimes. And I'll visit one of them in prison, and that's how this show will fulfill its commitment to let a priest of Asmodeus tell us about their faith, though we'll still have some problems since I don't allow lying on this show and nearly every word out of their mouths is a lie. They worship an Evil, weak, pathetic god, that could only with enormous effort and expense manage to wrap his fingers around the throat of my homeland, and mortals have spent every minute since breaking those fingers one by one and prying him loose. And there aren't very many fingers left.
The Thrunes are weak. It makes sense; strong and free people have their choice of employers, so Asmodeus can only work with slaves, or people too stupid to realize they're getting a bad deal, or people who no one else would ever choose to work with. In nearly every case I've ever heard of, a dynasty as incompetent and wasteful and self-destructive and infighting-happy as the Thrunes would be overthrown, and good riddance. But Hell keeps its puppets in power; it has to. All the rest of its puppets are somehow even worse."
Iomedae has several dozen embarrassing completely true stories about the Thrunes and then a segment called 'lies the Thrunes thought they could get us to believe'. Her tone sobers, as that wraps up.
"I do want to admit something. We're going to kill Abrogail, if one of her relatives doesn't get to it first, and I'm very much looking forward to it. But I can't usually bring myself to hate her. Why? Because this is the story of Abrogail Thrune's life: she will spend it as a tortured lump of flesh that can't remember her name. That is the whole story of Abrogail Thrune's life, thousands and thousands of years, depending how long it takes us to fix Hell and that one might genuinely take us a while.
There's a little brief window at the beginning of her story where she has some kind of title and does a lot of torturing people and feeling special, but it's unfathomably short, alongside eternity. Even if she outlives the median Thrune in power, and she probably won't, it's the blink of an eye alongside her eternal reward for it. Abrogail Thrune's story is that she will be tortured horribly for a very long time and she won't remember what it was for and no one will care who she was. Nothing else features in her story, not really.
Obviously if she had any sense she could escape that fate. Get her soul trapped. Plane Shift to Heaven and beg them for help. Hire the best lawyers in Creation to try to find a way free of her contract. Why doesn't she? Well, part of the answer is that if you're the kind of person who realizes you don't want to go to Hell and does something about it, you're too smart for Asmodeus to put on the throne of Cheliax. Part of the answer is that Asmodeans have built up this long list of lies and rationalizations, and she may genuinely believe she's too special to be tortured in Hell. She's not, but she may believe it. Part of the answer is that Asmodeans try to insist that everyone goes to Hell, that there's nothing else, and -
There is something else. There is a better world, and it is in your reach. We'll talk with the dead, on this radio show, in the upcoming weeks. We might visit Axis and report to you directly from there, once we have some adequate recording equipment. Abrogail Thrune, if she found the courage to get out, would have some problems, but ordinary people can just choose to do the right thing, and escape Hell that way. It's not easy. But it's hard the way that getting the harvest in is hard, not the way that flying to the Moon is hard. You work hard, leave the world better than you found it, and get into paradise that way. Most people aren't damned, in countries that Hell isn't trying to strangle. Most people need not be damned, even in countries Hell is trying to strangle.
Hell wants people to think that Goodness is a strange impossible thing you have no hope of doing. Goodness is very simple. Close your eyes, think about how you could leave the world a little bit of a better place, make someone else's burden a little lighter, do a little bit more of your part in keeping the wolves at bay. Take a sick friend soup. Pick up a baby and count to ten on their fingers. Tell someone who doesn't have a radio what the weather's going to be. It's these things paradise is made of.
Asmodeus has to combat the natural human instinct to love one's children, the natural human instinct to love one's parents, the natural human instinct to love one's self, because all of those loves will guide you out of Hell, if you let them.
Asmodeus also claims that he's going to conquer the other afterlives, but I have seen the weapons of war that are made by free hands in the defense of free lands and when you see them too you'll know that's just another lie of His.
Evil has to fear the strength of its own people. Good doesn't. Cheliax has to closely monitor all its wizards because most of them defect at fifth circle, the minute they can Teleport to freedom. Good countries rejoice on learning that their wizards have reached fifth circle because their strength strengthens everyone.
Anyone can see that they cannot trust anyone who wants them to be weak. Abrogail Thrune wants you to be weak. I don't. Her Cheliax cannot endure you at your strongest. The true Cheliax is built out of all of us, at our strongest. This is Freedom Radio, reporting from an undisclosed location; but one day we will report from the soil of my birth, in Cheliax, and we'll build paradise together."
When the episode ends she is crying. She wasn't expecting that. She isn't sure what to do with it. It feels slightly like being unable to breathe and slightly like everyone else is very far away.
And then there is a touch on her metaphorical shoulder, a feeling of recognition and conviction and love and safety - not the kind of safety where there isn't danger, but the kind of safety where you are at last a legal adult and at last have a concealed carry permit - and she can Lay on Hands in the morning.
Abrogail Thrune II is upset about Freedom Radio. Reasonably so; it has presented them a thorny challenge. The radios are most popular with ship's captains, who rely on them to avoid storms, and who can obtain them cheaply in every foreign port; when the radios on ships aren't needed for weather-watching, people will inevitably listen to descriptions of chariot-races, or adventure stories, or Freedom Radio if someone's daring. Banning them has been tremendously unpopular and notably hard to enforce. Banning them because a teenage girl said mean things about Abrogail on the radio also looks weak.
The better option is to assassinate Freedom, or better yet to arrest her and host a public execution and malediction. Abrogail did not initially assume that this would be very difficult. But far from the ad hoc operation they initially presumed this was, it seems well prepared (Probably still Morgethai.) Manohar has met Temos Sevandivasen, and ran a Discern Location when the man appeared live with Freedom. It failed, which can only mean he was Mind Blanked. Scries for Freedom herself fail consistently, even when conducted by powerful casters who one might expect could overcome the difficulty intrinsic to having never seen her and only heard her voice; she’s probably Mind Blanked all the time too.
There's of course one way to extradite someone which doesn't require knowing their real name or where they are.
And so Paraduchess Lilia Ramona de Montero, Cheliax's spymaster, is not very surprised to learn that Abrogail is planning to use Gorthoklek's once-yearly Wish to try to grab the little bitch, along with seventeen other people Cheliax would like to publicly execute and maledict. (She learns this because Abrogail needs to know which of the other likely candidates are in fact still alive and not known to be operating at the Worldwound.) It will fail for a majority of the subjects, but strike terror in the hearts of all of them, and it's less likely to fail for Freedom, who can't possibly yet be a powerful adventurer. Mind Blank and a priesthood from Milani or Iomedae or whoever she's got them from won't save anyone from a Wish cast by Gorthoklek. Even if she’s a paladin the girl’s odds are very slim.
Then, of course, they'll broadcast the girl's torture, and her death, and her malediction, and all will be right with the universe again.
Lilia agrees it’s a good plan. One that requires complicated setup: for Freedom herself, ‘Wished into the immediate vicinity of a pit fiend’ will probably do for taking her prisoner, but if you’re not wasting the opportunity to grab seventeen other people then you want to make sure you can secure them if you get them, and the list is going to include people like Morgethai who wear a wizard’s hat and can’t merely be dropped right into an antimagic field. She gets a very small team to work on it; you don't want to risk something like this leaking.
...Lilia falls asleep and into a routinely scheduled mindscape, and informs Myrabelle of this. They're going to time the Wish for mid-next-broadcast so it's harder for the show to hide by getting an imitator. They're going to try for, in addition to the little brat, Morgethai and Cansellarion and Galt's Cyprian and some of his marshals and Andoran's Supreme Elect, Codwin, and some Andoren generals and leaders, and a half-dozen prominent Chelish defectors and Catherine de Litran and a couple noted political philosophers and one of Abrogail's distant cousins who defected and is in hiding somewhere.
She gives Myrabelle the whole list because sometimes Myrabelle may want to adjust the results of such matters, though in this case she doesn't really expect any adjustments, certainly not for the benefit of very stupid teenage girls. They're not in the saving brave idiots from the consequences of their decisions business.
Two days later, Catherine de Litran uses a wand of sending to request a secret meeting with Cansellarion. She's expected to be a future ally, and they've worked together before - He tells her to visit his estate disguised and under the name Salda. The guards let her in, and lead her to a study within a private sanctum.
"I think you know who Freedom is, or at least how to reach her."
"Well, if you do know how to get in touch with her, or how to send her resources - Cheliax is planning to abduct her via wish in the middle of her next broadcast. I'm also intending to tell Morgethai. You're both targets too. Am I correct in guessing that between the two of you you have enough resources to make sure this fails?"
"Cyprian, Codwin, myself, Marshal Belmont. And presumably others. From the timing, I would guess that Freedom is the primary target and the rest of us are opportunistic. Can you - discreetly - make sure Cyprian is tipped off and on his guard? He and I aren't on the best speaking terms right now.
...And yes, I'd appreciate any additional protections you or Lastwall can provide cheaply, I think I'm adequately prepared but it's not something I want to take risks about."
She looks nervous. He'd tell her she's not in trouble, but she kind of is. "I've recently learned that Cheliax is going to attempt to have you kidnapped via wish spell during your broadcast tomorrow. We're planning to cast some spells on you that will help you resist the kidnapping, and to otherwise proceed as normal. This is secret and you should not tell anybody - Cheliax will probably learn that we knew, but we might get away with them thinking you are much more powerful than they think, or your normal protections are strong enough to prevent this, and even if they do determine that we knew the less they know about how much we knew and when the better. Do you understand?"
"I know that they are targeting more people than just you, I don't know Alfirin to be one of the targets - We think this is revenge for your last broadcast. I don't yet have any reason to believe that Cheliax knows Alfirin exists. But you're right, that we should try to protect her too…do you know if she is Good?"
"- I would really expect so! We have been doing all the same things, for all of the same reasons. Are we safe in a Forbiddance?" She hasn’t had time to get caught up on all of the possible interactions of magic - and most of what she did learn was aimed at understanding magic warfare so they could figure out which weapons it was most important to make soonest - but Lastwall has lots of Lawful Good Forbiddances, they are safe to walk into and out of only if you're Lawful Good, and one can't Teleport directly in or out of them, she knows that much.
"Wish is - I think the only known spell, though I'd have to ask a wizard to be sure - which can teleport someone out of a forbiddance. If it couldn't - I expect they wouldn't try it. I asked if she was Good because some of the protective spells that we'd use only help Good people…I think we will not be able to protect her as well as we can you, even if she is Good. Paladins are already very resistant to magic and the same protections we have that only work on Good people work better on Paladins. I'm sorry."
"I don't think you'll be given the opportunity to kill yourself, or Alfirin or any other people they get, but if you do get it take it. We'll try to get you back regardless, but - raising you might be the easiest way to do that. And it gets you out of their hands. We'll go to a priest of a Good god, so you know it's us."
"You're not going to lose me. Lastwall can protect me, and worst case, I'll explode on them and Lastwall will raise me. And absolute worst case the goddess Iomedae will probably intervene, because She can't afford to have Cheliax capture me either. It's going to fail, and it's going to make Cheliax look stupid and weak, and it's going to make them actually weaker since they can't use the Wish to do anything else. …but I'm scared too. Because - because I didn't know this was possible at all, and -"
"Yeah. I don't know how they found out this time. But they're probably not perfect at it. I can wear an explosive vest all the time, though it makes stupid workplace accidents a lot likelier and stupider. …they're also going to try to protect you tomorrow, just in case, though we don't think Cheliax knows it might want to target you."
"There are other targets. I don't know how many, or if - gods. The explosive vests show our hand to Cheliax to some degree. I'm not sure if that's worth it for all of the targets. I guess that's Cansellarion's decision. Let's figure out how many we can make tonight and then he can figure out how to allocate them."
Hughughug. "I don't know if that gives Cheliax ideas or not. Probably not to an important degree. Glad it's not my decision. I wish I was the kind of paladin who isn't scared, it's really distracting being this scared - I'm going to need to do something so I don't sound scared on the show tomorrow -"
Iomedae goes to find Cansellarion in the extremely early morning to tell him there are four vests, and ask if there's a spell for not sounding scared on the radio. Also she'd like to know if it'll feel like anything, when it happens, and if it's all right for her to react on radio or if she's supposed to pretend she didn't notice.
"Anyone who could resist a wish transporting them would notice… I don't know if you'd notice if it just didn't work because you were in the Dome in Sothis… I will ask Morgethai that when she gets here to cast some of the spells. If they think we're broadcasting from the Dome then maybe they won't guess that we knew, so if Morgethai thinks you wouldn't notice then you should try not to react."
"Any time, though ideally not too many of them. I'm going to leave before the show starts; I want to be in Andoran if anything happens, and it's where my own precautions live. Gallipsiwhoop will stay with you and notify me if anything goes wrong." Gallipsiwhoop isn't visibly present at all.
It lets her through. The room on the other side is under a Mage's Private Sanctum, and has, as promised, a table for tea. "I was planning to listen to the radio myself," she says. "It's an entertaining show. I am the more impressed by it learning a bit more of its host," in particular that she aired that episode about Lastwall while sheltering in Vigil, but this is presumably obvious enough to not be worth the (minimal) risk of saying it aloud.
"Aren't you the most powerful wizard on the continent? Surely having a conversation with yourself isn't beyond your abilities. Do her voice as an illusion and speak your own lines - it's just sound, not that I doubt you could do it with someone watching via scry."
"Perhaps I can ask her to conspire with me to say nothing in the episode incompatible with such a theory. I don't know, she does not seem very temperamentally inclined to mislead people even in the service of great goods, like my amusement. Are you confident in your security today, or gambling?"
"It gives good fortune in a moment of unusual unluckiness. You mustn't wear it around all the time or it'll save you from stubbing your toe on your coffee table, and be expended thereby, but it's nice for something like this. I sold Lastwall a half-dozen; I think they prefer purchase orders they can put in their books to presents over tea."
"The future of Andoran? You want my thoughts? Are you imagining that I'll have the good fortune to win my war with Cheliax, and the poor sense to immediately turn around and pick a fight with my ally who is still the most powerful wizard on the continent? Or are you asking me to help defend Andoran if Cyprian starts looking this way? I don't know if I can commit to that. I'd try to talk him out of it, of course, but - that's hinging on him hypothetically having reasons to listen to me in the future."
"It would, I think, be awfully rude, to ask you for commitments over tea! No, I just mean that I haven't the faintest idea how you think a place ought to be run, whether it's Cheliax or Andoran or Galt, and nor have I any good guess how you plan to drag Cheliax out of its current state even if you were to conquer it, and these questions have acquired some strange new urgency lately, with girls on the radio all but saying the war's next year."
"I had hoped, once, for - a crown surrounded by republican institutions. I don't know if it would hold up, in the Chelish heartlands. Not that I expect to win that crown without someone else deciding to hand it to me, if the war is next year. Girls on the radio have thrown everyone's plans into disarray, I imagine."
"This is Freedom Radio, reporting live from an undisclosed location somewhere in creation. This week, we're talking with Afasi Kennadas, a fifth-circle priest of Pharasma, goddess of Creation, birth and death – but first, we're going to talk about a matter near and dear to many of us: why do so many babies die? I was initially planning to pose this question to the priest, but then it occurred to me it isn't really a question of theology. After all, no babies - or very few of them - die because the gods willed them dead. They get sick, or they're born sick, or they're born funny-shaped or too small or unable to breathe. Rich families save their dying babies. They get powerful priests to come drive an illness from their child's body, or they cut away a crippled part and regrow it right, or they use the most powerful of healing magic that can address almost any ill whatever its cause.
My family was rich, but not so rich that we could call a powerful priest for a sick baby, and so we prayed for them, and when our prayers were not enough we buried them. Three of my sisters, two of my brothers. The gods didn't do that. So what did?
We have talked before about the germ theory of disease, the theory that sicknesses are caused by tiny living creatures that can be shared from person to person, or pass through tainted water, and which spread and multiply inside the human body. Such diseases are everywhere, and when a flu comes to a household, probably everyone in it will get sick. But the baby is likeliest to die? Why is that? What I learned from great scholars in the functioning of the human body is that babies are born practically without the defenses which a healthy body can raise against disease…"
Alfirin doesn't feel a thing, but she sees Iomedae's expression change - she glances at Cansellarion and he nods - Iomedae's still here, and that's the most important thing -
...Iomedae's still here and wearing an unstable homemade explosive vest and if she gets blown up Alfirin will never forgive herself even though it was obviously the right decision at the time… She'll start disarming her own vest and wait impatiently for the broadcast to end.
Iomedae's trying incredibly hard not to sound any different, it was important for making Cheliax think that she is in Sothis. Unfortunately, it was distracting, and she paused, and also the cleric of Pharasma was not informed about the plan to pretend they were in Sothis and is a perceptive person even when all he has to go off is a mid-sentence intake of breath. "Are you all right?"
Ugh, that probably ruins it, and if it's ruined then she wants to switch strategies towards mocking Abrogail on-air but the orders were not 'pretend unless you failed at pretending and cannot achieve your pretending-related goals anymore', though she should have asked for those orders, if she'd thought of it.
"Oh, I'm quite well," she says. "I was saying that I'm told it's possible to save born-early babies but you have to keep them warm and get them good air, and how do you do both of those things at once? Put them by a fire, and the air isn't good enough for them and they'll likely die; keep them somewhere dry with clean fresh air, and it will be a great nearly impossible labor keeping them warm, when their body can't produce enough warmth itself. So the best thing you can do is to keep the baby on their mother, touching her skin, every waking moment, somewhere away from a smoky fire, and that's nearly as good as what they do for kings." She has so many things to say to Abrogail right now and she's not allowed to say them and she's mad at herself for not clarifying what to do if she failed to act like nothing happened.
(Catherine is still having tea with Morgethai and reluctantly lets the wish slip away. She's mind blanked and very good at hiding her magic but she's also sitting right in front of an archmage, inside that archmage's sanctum; It's not worth the risk.)
Cansellarion can tell Iomedae wants to talk about the attempt, but he doesn't want to speak up and risk his voice getting on the broadcast - he whispers to Alfirin, who goes over and whispers to Iomedae that she can say whatever she wants, no use keeping up the deception once it's been blown. (She disarms the main trigger for the vest while she's there.)
"Imagine you're Abrogail Thrune. You've got a lot of problems, as we talked about last week. Your country is poor, and Asmodeus is strangling it. Much of what he destroyed to conquer it has never been rebuilt. Your ships sail around the ruins of an arch the old Empire would've repaired inside two years; it's been a hundred of them. There's an ancient green dragon planning out an elaborate revenge on you for your uncle's flatly stupid effort to rob her library after she let Chelish apprentices visit it. Most of the Empire that was once one with Cheliax is now free and independent and hates you passionately. You are damned by an infernal contract you signed at an age where no decent father would let you marry if you weren't already pregnant. Cyprian's a better commander than anyone who has ever worked for you, and a lot of your wizards work for him because Cheliax can't keep people who have the power to leave. Felandriel Morgethai's a better wizard than any of yours.
Also, there's a teenage girl making fun of you on the radio.
But you possess the means to harness untold arcane power to solve your problems! You can do things that many gods wish mortals did not dare to dream of! You can cast a Wish, and rewrite all of reality to suit your vision! Listeners, if you're imagining that a Wish could solve every problem in your life, you're completely right, it could. A poorly-worded one will come back to bite you, sure, but a careful Wish is everything it's renowned to be. It can raise the dead, or cure any illness or injury, or make your home and village safe. There are castles raised by Wishes that stand after centuries, looking brand new. Should Abrogail rebuild the Arch of Aroden? The cities that her predecessors razed to the ground? Should she pry herself free of Cheliax and to Heaven, to seek out her best hope of escaping damnation?"
"I swear to you, to each and every one of you, that as far as I know, the way Abrogail Thrune chose to use that Wish is to try to make me stop making fun of her on the radio. She turned on her radio, listened to me talk about keeping early-born babies alive, and she ordered that the fabric of the universe bend and quake so she could get back at me for saying that Asmodeus can build a mound of corpses and prop her up on top of them but he can never make her the true ruler of our country. That's what she did.
And it didn't work.
Abby - can I call you Abby - glad to have you among our listeners! Use the next one for your Wisdom! …you know, I say that, and it's good advice, but it's also kind of mean advice, because they wouldn't let her. She can't cast Wishes herself. Hell's supplying them. If she tells Asmodeus that she wants a Wish to kidnap people off radio shows, sure, he's happy to supply that, it's Evil and it's …at least dubiously lawful - I am arguably a Chelish subject - and it's her playing Hell's stupid, stupid game, where the most important thing in the world is your pride. So they'll give her the Wish, if that's what she wants it for. If she asks for a Wish for her Wisdom - if she asks for a Wish to make Cheliax strong and rich and free - well, Hell will turn out, shockingly, to be out of Wishes today. Or they'll kill her.
Abby - I would save you, if I could. If I were writing the story of your life, it wouldn't be 'a suffering lump of flesh, forever'. But the only person who can save you is yourself, and the only way you can do it is by getting out of there, and if you had the courage to do that Asmodeus would never have chosen you.
Right. Apologies, Ser Kennadas, I think we can get back to business."
"I must admit, I do not have so thorough an account of your activities that I could say right now that I know you to have cast an eighth-circle spell on a Toilday. She's really trying quite hard, though even so I'd be pretty surprised if it worked."
"I don't know. There's got to be some limit on it or everyone would be doing it all the time."- …Cansellarion is right there, being very patient with the person who definitely has to be his absolute highest maintenance employee of all time. And he'd know. She extracts herself slightly to look curious at him.
"A pit fiend can grant a wish once a year, and - there are hundreds, maybe thousands of pit fiends, but sending them to Golarion or using them for His own wishes is very expensive for Asmodeus. Cheliax only has one pit fiend at its disposal, and I do not think they can call upon others for wishes."
Iomedae is pretty sure that she made a bunch of important mistakes here and owes Lastwall a complicated apology but she's not in fact perfectly clear on what precisely the mistakes were and probably figuring that out is a prerequisite to apologizing properly. And it'll keep, for a day. 'I will see you tomorrow' is not 'you did not screw up', it's 'you don't seem to be in any state to be reasonable', which is probably true. "Tomorrow," she says.
"All right. So, in one story, you show up in a world with knowledge of industrialization, and you find a buyer and you sell them all your industrialization. I think in this case the - obligations that you have towards your buyer - are pretty limited. You should warn them about health hazards and side effects that come up, and so on. But you can leave if you happen to feel like it, you probably don't need to worry all that much about whether they're going to like the consequences for the stability of their government though I don't think it'd be all right to actively conceal it. That's not the kind of - trust - that exists between a seller and a buyer. You can have side jobs working for their rivals. You can - call for the overthrow of their government. And they probably won't save you, unless they're getting paid for it.
Different story, you show up in a world and are embraced as the long lost heir to their throne, which they promptly put you on, and everyone in their kingdom will die for you. I think it's all right to leave, if someone does that to you - or, it might have bad consequences, but the analysis is about consequences, not duties. But if you stay, if you accept the role - if all of these people will die for you - then I think it's different. I think you have to - actively try, to be doing right by them, specifically -"
"They have not. But I don't think it's comfortably just the first story. I don't know how they learned Cheliax was planning this. But - it was quite likely a big risk, to tip us off, a risk incurred by someone who is in danger of Hell if they get caught, and more likely to get caught because I lost my sentence midway through. And if it it'd worked, today, if Cheliax had been smart enough to do it at an unpredictable time, they would have put a lot of people into terrible danger to get me back.
Partially because I know too much. Partially because you'd pay them. Partially because I'm sort of their god. Partially because it's their honest best guess of the best way to fix the world. I don't know. But - when I decided to do a radio episode refuting Asmodeanism, I wasn't thinking 'a lot of people may well die and some of them may go to Hell, defending me from the Chelish retaliation or otherwise caught up in it, and that's worth it'. And I wasn't thinking 'I have some duty towards Lastwall to protect their agents and not put them at unnecessary risk, but other things are more important.' I was just - acting like I could do whatever I wanted, if no one had actually told me to cut it out. I was tracking whether I thought it would work. But not - whether everything I was gambling with was mine, and if it was mine how we'd ended up deciding it was mine."
"You took a risk, and it felt like a risk just to you, but it's not, because Lastwall is relying on you - for all their reasons - and they put other people at risk to protect you. And then you made a mistake, today, and put those people more at risk - and you feel guilty about not thinking about those other people, and about making the mistake that endangered them more - am I understanding right?"
"...probably I would avoid picking political fights that make them uncomfortable during strategy meetings. I'm right, and it feels very satisfying, and like speaking truth to power and so on, but - it's boldly speaking truth to power if they're tolerating it because they want me to work for them. It's …something else…if they're sending people out to die horribly for me and politely tolerating my political opinions is just kind of small besides that."
"If you don't actually think they should reform their government right now - I don't - then the point can probably wait? It's not like our leverage is going to disappear when the war ends." squeeze. "Are you mad at yourself for thinking the risks were just to yourself or for not noticing how risky it was?"
"Hmm. About that, I think - I have a sense of what an Abadaran priest might say, here. And I don't know that what they'd say is exactly right but - it's in the right direction, from where you are now. I think they'd say that Lastwall is paying us a lot for what we're teaching them, and part of that has been paying us in money, and part in…stock, except that I don't know that they have the concept, exactly - and part in security. And we should know how much they're paying us in security, because it matters how much they're paying us in total, but we shouldn't be reluctant to take risks just because Lastwall's protecting us, or - we should but - if we do they owe us more in not-security pay? Or something? I think I've lost track of exactly what the Abadaran in my head is thinking. And what I said there was probably wrong, but - the opposite mistake from the one you're maybe making already?"
"Hmmm," says Iomedae, and leans into Alfirin because Alfirin is very good and comforting and it's easier to think in her arms. "I think - Lastwall could be a place that was paying us partially in security and partially in money, and we could have a contract with them where they don't get to make demands about our making ourselves easier to secure except by changing how much they charge for it. If we were dealing with Abadar's church we'd do that. It's a fine way to treat people, if everyone's doing that.
I guess I - I don't know. I could say something which isn't what you were saying which is also a reasonable and principled thing to say, which is that Lastwall has a whole lot more information than I do about the tradeoffs they're making and can just make the ones they want to make, and that it's a bit odd to try to analyze the situation in terms of my not taking enough ownership of their risk-related decisions which they presumably endorse. It's not like they didn't have plenty of opportunity to ask me to make different ones, even. If that was how someone felt about it I don't think I could argue with them. But I don't like it. And I especially don't like it if they're - trying to be trustworthy, trying to do right by me in a manner other than technically fulfilling the terms of our agreement - and I'm not doing that back. And I think the way I'd most want to relate to people is one where I check all the tradeoffs being made on my behalf that my decisions affect, instead of having all these consequences of my actions off in the background where I can't directly interact with them? Where I don't consider my duties done if no one's actually complained to my face."
"I mean - I think the Abadaran would say that Lastwall is paying us in security and money and - goodwill, maybe? And just… in denial about it? - I guess it's not important, exactly. I think… you should ask Cansellarion, maybe, whether Lastwall is trying to do right by you, or whether they're just trying to keep to the agreement we have, or whether they're - hm. Helping you out because they think that if you can do more things you'll do more things that they like, or - mmm - I don't know exactly how to say it - using you as a tool to do the things that you and they both want done - if it matters for how you're going to treat with them to be - fair. I'm sorry, those words don't feel quite right, does it make sense what I'm saying?"
"...yes in principle, but I don't …know what it means to them? I mean, I'm clear on my vows. I was annoyed with myself for not getting better orders from Cansellarion, once I realized I'd failed at not pausing about the Wish, but I wasn't going to disobey them, and I think he knew that, and that's - important - I am very glad of the vows, actually, I think I'd feel much worse about today if not for that - but I don't know if, say, they as a principled matter try to treat with their soldiers less adversarially because of having more duties to them, or more adversarially because they - signed up for it -
Also my father said that if the army would take me at all they'd beat the being stubborn and rebellious out of me and they have not done that and I'm not sure if it's because they're not really counting me as theirs or what."
"Have you been stubborn and rebellious…OK yes, you've been stubborn and rebellious. Maybe they don't do beatings, or maybe they don't beat paladins, or maybe they just don't do beatings in the war room. Do you want me to try to find out some of the answers, I can't imagine you're looking forward to asking Cansellarion 'sir, why haven't you beaten me senseless for insubordination?'"
Tomorrow the latest episode of Freedom Radio is somewhat the talk of the secret project. Some people have made the obvious guess that the radios are another division of this secret project, but Iomedae doesn't know if any of them have made the connection between their supervisor and the radio host (she tries to use a different voice for radio). This means she gets all their opinions about her, said in front of her, which is a lot of fun.
They only know about this at all because she screwed up but it's still very satisfying.
In the afternoon there's a strategy meeting. Iomedae enters quietly and goes to her seat and is not particularly stubborn or rebellious.
"...Okay. Let's all put it down in our hearts as a moderately costly victory until we know more. There won't be an incident report until we know what, if anything, it cost us or could have cost us - Iomedae, how many guns of each kind can you have ready by the end of Calistril? And how much ammunition?"
Is that going to be all of the discussion. Well, it makes sense that the most important question is whether their spies in Cheliax got caught for this and they don't know yet. Iomedae has current estimates on guns and ammunition by type, as of this morning. She'll read them off. "- and eight thousand of the centerfire bolt-action rifles. We could do more but can't scale the ammunition as easily. Same deal with the crank guns. I could make you a hundred of them but only about four thousand shells, and they go through two hundred a minute, that's the whole point of them."
"How much would it cut into regular ammunition stockpiling if Cansellarion starts soldiers drilling with the new weapons over the winter? We have twelve months in which Cheliax is without their usual reserve wish, and with that I'm inclined to - advise - that it's not worth another year to stockpile and train more."
"- for that we wouldn't need the batch 3 ammunition, which is designed for the Worldwound. Batch 2 we can produce a thousand a day. You could …probably design a halfway adequate training regime where every soldier learning the weapon fired forty shots? Less than that I’d worry they wouldn’t have experienced any problems while reloading and wouldn’t know what to do with it, or that under pressure they'll just forget how to do it at all.” She is suddenly aware of how she really doesn’t treat the President as a President at all, and generally does not behave at all like she acknowledges any authority whatsoever, and how possibly this is part of the error she identified yesterday. “Sir."
"- I don't actually know. I expect more than implied by 'production is four dozen a day' but less than implied by ‘production is doubling every month’ - at some point we're going to run into supply bottlenecks we haven't even thought of, or your druids will rebel about what you're doing to the groundwater. Or - see, I didn't know you could use Wishes to kidnap people, and I don't know how many more things like that there are and how often you will learn in advance of them."
"Artillery guns?" Alfirin adds, somewhat uncertainly. "Same basic principle, but bigger. Pulled around by a horse or a team of horses, usually used as siege weapons - might be useful against adventurers, if you can aim them fast enough. Or dragons. They're very good on ships or armored vehicles. But it'd mean setting up a whole extra production line and that would cut into the rest of production pretty sharply if you want them by spring."
"Artillery guns are very important in Earth warfare of this time period but - mostly in wars between major powers, they're not as important when a single industrial power is fighting some backwater. And I don't know enough about fireballs to say if they're a lot better than fireballs. ...I want airplanes but I think I could only have them in fifteen months if I did nothing else and it's not a good trade. …airplanes can do most of what dragons can do, and are only a little less scary, and also they can do overland logistics. But they're ill suited to these secrecy conditions and quite challenging even if you're cheating in various ways I expect we will to start out."
Cheliax learns that their enemies knew of the Wish attempt because they have Manohar run some Discern Locations from a scroll at the right time. They fail, as they would if everyone were Mind Blanked, and Codwin and Cansellarion usually aren't.
Lilia frames a subordinate, obviously, modifying his memory to include going out to dinner with a friend the night before the operation and then waking up in his own bed with no memories of the rest of the dinner at all. She gets tortured anyway, because Abrogail Thrune is very upset and can't take it out on Gorthoklek, but she can beat a Detect Thoughts and a Dominate and she is ultimately not under wildly more suspicion that she was before, as far as she can tell.
She is nonetheless irritated that Myrabelle presumably intervened to save the girl. Lilia finds the girl very annoying. She's aware this is mostly just because her own life is a lot worse when Abrogail Thrune is having a bad day, and doesn't reflect much on the girl's actual value as an ally, but she would have enjoyed interrogating her and she has not enjoyed the last few days of her life at all.
"It seems incorrect to have the paladins exempt," Iomedae says thoughtfully, "but not very surprising if they're just much better at rule-following.
I'm still confused about something but I really don't want to have to ask Cansellarion a question I've only halfway articulated in my own head when he's got a war to plan."
"...I assume that I haven't actually broken any rules because they don't actually have a rule against being stubborn and rebellious? But that just relocates the confusion to why I haven't been ordered to be less stubborn and rebellious... I think I am worried I'm being extended a degree of indulgence no one else is because of the god Iomedae."
"No! You are a ludicrously valuable ally they are very glad of and don't especially trust or want to ask too much of because you're also a foreigner and a teenage girl and too weak to read alignment off, and they treat you in a way that makes perfect sense given that. But I would like them to be able to ask more than that of me, if there's more to ask, because - because I ask more of them, when I have more to ask."
"To run Freedom Radio out of their basement, when they disagree with it. For them to appear on it, when I was going to pick a bunch of fights and propose overthrowing their government. For them to risk their people in Cheliax to bail me out from the consequences, apparently, though I didn't know I was asking that. But the radio was my idea, for my aims, and - probably not the best thing you could do if you're Lastwall, and I'm grateful they gave me latitude to do it anyway, and - I don't know.
I just don't want to be - making them pay costs they don't have to because they think otherwise I won't do what needs to be done -"
"Hmmm. I think a lot of those things are - things that I could ask of them too. I'm not sure you're in fact asking more of them than you could as just a foreign teenage girl who wasn't also complicatedly related to their god. Maybe I don't understand what you mean, exactly?"
"....the thing where I'd be stubborn and rebellious to Evelyn until she got overwhelmed and unhappy, but she still wouldn't order me to cut it out? I respect that, a lot, but I don't like it, because I'd rather people be able to order me to cut it out because then I'm not just guessing when and how I should - but it only works if they will -"
"Yes. And if I'm currently taking a lot of my pay in goodwill and tolerance, then that's probably a bad trade for everyone involved, because I'm in fact capable of playing by the rules, I just …well, I need to know what they are, and also Freedom doesn't really come across like someone who'll do what she's told without making an enormous fuss about it and I want to make sure that people correctly predict how I'll behave if told to change my behavior."
"And there's not really a great way to start that conversation, to tell them 'I'm not actually some radical anarchist, I just play one on TV' - That is the conversation you want to have, I think. Pointing out that - Freedom is you, but she's not all that there is to you, that you are still Lawful at heart."
"That does seem like the way to have the conversation. And like it answers what was previously a slightly puzzling question about my own psychology, which was why I felt vaguely morose that the army hadn't attempted to beat the rebelliousness out of me - I don't think it's necessary and I know I'd hate it, but I'd abide because I in fact want them to be able to treat me the way they treat other people and I want them to know they can do that and that's - one thing it might look like if they definitely did know. …why are you so good at unentangling my head. When I have to do it by myself it takes hours."
Iomedae can't think of a good way to bring up the topic so she decides to just attempt more differentiation between Freedom and Iomedae, and to be more on-task and reserved when being Iomedae, and see if things improve over time.
Also, she'll pick some different churches to pick on.
Freedom interviews a priest of Cayden Cailean and spends a good chunk of the segment on a rant about the damage alcohol does in terms of addiction and domestic abuse. ("We're against that, obviously. But it's possible to drink responsibly -")
"It's possible for many people to drink responsibly! For addicts, it is often better to quit! Completely! Never go near a bar again! The kindest thing the bartender can do for them is refuse to sell them even a single drink! And if you have addiction in your family, I wouldn't even start. It's possible to do all kinds of reckless and ill-advised things responsibly. But many of the people trying will, in fact, ruin their lives. It doesn't seem decent to me to weave pit traps with spikes at the bottom through all of the fabric of civilization and then point out that you can jump over them, not when we can just go out there and count how many bodies the traps collect each year."
"Mhm. It'll be pretty obvious what inspired me to the thought, but I can still be the one to push it. No aversions whatsoever to playing the big bad anarchist democrat - I think that's a contradiction or something, but no-one else is going to know if you don't tell them."
Alfirin can be a very polite troublemaker. She'll wait until all the other business is done before bringing it up.
"If I may suggest one more item? I was moved by Freedom's interview yesterday, to consider the matter of alcohol. Lots of people are moved, by drink, to ruin their lives or the lives of people around them. It's bad for children - makes them grow up stupider, it's bad for pregnant women, it's bad for men who drink too much even if they have the decency and sense not to do anything dangerous while drunk or to hurt anyone else - America tried to ban it once, and I think Lastwall should think about trying too. In America it went badly because it empowered the…thieves' guilds, who became the only places that anyone who was interested could still find wine or liquor. I think Lastwall doesn't have a problem with organized crime, so it might work better here, and of course you have a god who answers questions who can venture an opinion."
Aha. "Well, I wouldn't make the kind where the artilleryman sets a charge rather than just putting in a shell... but if it's aimed sloppily maybe the projectile doesn't go far enough, lands among our own men. Or it overshoots the enemy. Worst case it explodes if it's not maintained or if the breech isn't closed properly..."
"Machine shops, chemical plants - they or someone else could lose a limb easily. Or their head. Munitions plants - we've tried quite hard to idiotproof them, so maybe nothing. But we've tried that hard because a bad enough mistake there and the whole plant would go up."
Alfirin kisses her. She hasn't deliberately cultivated a habit of doing that every time Iomedae says she's brilliant, it happened by accident. "I am sure it did not occur to them, but I think maybe I'll save the 'Hey, you know what's great for morale? When you don't kidnap people from their homes and force them to fight for you!' for later. Lastwall isn't even a very big country, they might not have enough volunteers for a proper army and we can't deny that they need a proper army - or, Cansellarion needs a proper army and Lastwall's decided they're allowed to give it to him?"
"Yes, I think 'end conscription' is a point to argue with them later. …and I think I was right to shut up, even though it was very difficult and I thought of dozens of clever things to say. It's their country, and they thought of different clever things, ones that matter to them…and didn't feel like they had to close ranks because the bizarre outworlders were proposing terrible ideas in a fraught fashion… probably eventually I'll get the hang of this diplomacy thing.
I'm not clear on how allowed Lastwall is to give him an army? It doesn't really meet most definitions of neutrality I've heard of, to give someone an army. Giving the guns is obviously allowed, America did lend-lease and so on…"
"Giving the guns is obviously allowed under Earth international law. I have no idea what the standards are for Golarion international law. If they even have the concept of defined standards of international law instead of just - what one country promised to do and everyone's best guess of how those promises apply."
"We should - ask about that. It's fine if they're making a principled decision to play hardball with the letter of their treaty because that's what Cheliax is doing, trying to kidnap Cansellarion with a Wish, but - I hope they're doing something principled and not just forgetting inconvenient promises once they have overwhelming force, that'd bode ill for the next situation."
"Right. Not for at least a year and it might all be over by then… I know almost nothing about the Keleshites besides that they showed up in children's stories and lived even farther from Sarkoris than Taldor. I never got the impression their empire was a particularly nice place to live, if you weren't as rich as a king…which I guess we are, but I don't think that's exactly the thing."
"I have also heard nothing good about them but Taldor was forever at war with them and if they were actually a lovely place I wouldn't have heard it. There's -I guess I'd expect there's somewhere that can protect us from Cheliax and where freedom is either generally available or purchaseable. …though if we assume the god Iomedae allied, then we might assume She would've told the best available people to get us." She frowns. "I wonder if She ever got good at international diplomacy. Currently it feels very forbidding, as a thing to have to get good at."
"I bet she did. She had it easy though, she had her own country and lacked your noble impulse to tell everyone they should be a democracy…I assume. I think the fact that she sent us to her people is a little bit of a reason to think that she's not exactly allied, or not exactly unbiased, and I guess also a bit of a reason to think maybe her people really are the best. Or maybe she knew Andoran would have been just as good and assumed you'd be more comfortable in a military dictatorship because she was when she was mortal."
"Lastwall pledged to remain neutral in the Chelish civil war and to detain and exile any refugees from the civil war who were found to be planning to continue their part in the war from within Lastwall's borders. In theory, the obligation expired when the war ended and house Thrune took the crown. In practice - when the war was over Lastwall was still unable to renounce her primary duties guarding Gallowspire, nor was she able to simultaneously guard Gallowspire and prosecute a war with infernal Cheliax. So she remained neutral."
"So if we're continuing our part in the civil war from within Lastwall's borders, that's not allowed, and they plan to argue that we're really not doing that, we're just invading? ...how is the rest of the international community going to evaluate that. It seems a little like splitting hairs."
"Cheliax will claim it's a violation of Lastwall's neutrality, though not out of some principled belief, it just benefits them to claim that. They're not exactly respecting it themselves. The hellknights at the worldwound will pitch a fit - not about Lastwall neutrality, though, just about two countries involved in the defense of the Worldwound spending any of their time and energy opposing each other. But, no, I don't think…Taldor, or Andoran, or Osirion are going to feel misled. It's possible that before the war starts Jan will make a declaration that Lastwall's leadership considers the Chelish civil war to be over, but I think everything they've done so far pretty unambiguously doesn't violate their pledged neutrality. I'm not Chelish; you've never set foot in the country of Cheliax, when the war starts nobody in my army will be serving Lastwall, and we'll start in Nirmathas, whose independence from Cheliax at least is recognized almost everywhere."
"Well, it's much less expensive for us to ask Her questions via commune, so we can ask Her for clarifications. We asked Her if we should proceed with industrialization, for example. We try to be proactive about asking things so that She doesn't have to do the more expensive intervention of contacting us. What She said to me is secret, but only insofar as your identity and presence in the world and how you got here are, you can tell Alfirin or anyone else who knows those things."
Iomedae spent the few seconds Alfirin was getting help fighting her way through the pillows on Alfirin's side of the bed panicking about the fact Alfirin wasn't there, never mind that she could literally see Alfirin standing a few feet away. "- I don't know. I don't think so?"
"I'm not very injured," Iomedae says. "But I am injured and that's fairly concerning, since I don't think anything should've been able to get in here. I - woke up to something very terrible and I was bleeding. That's all I remember. I'm sorry. - Alfirin did you notice anything before I screamed?"
"I hate this," Iomedae complains into her shoulder. "I hate being scared all the time, I hate that - I don't know if they have a policy of not telling us anything unless it comes up or if they figure we'd ask if we wanted to know or if there's just so many thousands of things that there'd be no point in telling us a few hundred. I hate not having enough context to make any tradeoffs in an informed way, I hate having to trust people who seem pretty trustworthy but too busy to really try very hard to justify all their choices to us unless we make a huge fuss and since we lack any context to make any tradeoffs it's hard to tell what we're losing when we do that and I miss Aroden and I miss knowing what people want from me and I miss being safe -"
Cling. "I know. I'm going to make them tell us, though - not any of the leadership, but there's probably a wizard here who's not so busy and can just - sit down, and tell us - if not all the things that Cheliax is going to try all the types of things they might try. And someone else to give us context. And someone else to teach me to be a wizard. Because we can't just - keep putting all these things off until we're not busy. 'We're not busy' isn't going to happen."
"It's really really not. I think that's a good plan. If I knew the sorts of things that were possible with magic I'd be less terrified when they kept unexpectedly happening - ugh, I'm not going to be able to get back to sleep at all but you should, especially if you want to be a wizard…"
"Mmm. You're not wrong but it sure does feel backwards, you getting attacked in the middle of the night and then staying awake while I go back to sleep." She'll close her eyes and rest her head on Iomedae until she's calm enough to sleep properly. "Miss being the most powerful wizard on the planet, things like this never happened when I was the most powerful wizard on the planet."
Iomedae is very tired in the morning but she drags herself up and to the workshop because if the invasion of Cheliax is starting in the spring they can't afford any delays. Also presumably Cheliax did this to her so as a matter of spiting them she has to be twice as productive today. If the crafters in the workshop and the soldiers in testing notice that she seems shaken up, they don't say anything.
Alfirin doesn't go back to sleep this time, just stays up through the night holding her. In the morning she's tired and cranky and demands to know what Lastwall can do about this, because if it happens every night Iomedae is not going to be functional after too much longer.
Today some people do notice that Iomedae is miserable and exhausted and ask if everything is all right. She tells them to stay on task and then feels bad about how instantly she is obeyed.
All right, she needs to figure this out. She isn't going to be able to run the supply work for a war while this much of a wreck, and the sleep deprivation isn't helping but she doesn't think it's all the sleep deprivation. What is it.
She wants to know if she's making horrible mistakes or not. She wants to know if she's wronging people or not. She gave up on directly asking and addressing it indirectly is more respectful of everyone's time but it means she doesn't get any feedback about whether she's doing it right. She wants to be safe, but she chose to do dangerous things. She wants to know whether that decision was a mistake or not, but they aren't looking closely at the Wish incident and what mistakes she made until Cansellarion knows whether the people who risked their lives to protect her were caught and are in Hell -
(She hides in a supply closet and cries for ten minutes.)
She wants to be able to defend herself, but she's picked a fight with people far stronger than her and she's probably never again in her life going to be capable of defending herself against the caliber of people who want to kill her. She wants Aroden back, she just doesn't feel the same way about her god-self and in any event no one seems willing to tell her how to surrender herself to her god-self's service even if that would possibly be the best way to limp through the next four months.
She hasn't slept much in two days and she'll probably feel better once she has except the current plan is for her not to sleep tonight and she's not sure when the plan next involves her sleeping.
She prays for strength and is not sure it's helping, which is weird, because it usually helps a lot. Eventually she decides that if twenty minutes of desperate introspection hasn't untangled her then the thing to do is to stop trying and do her job and not think about it until something goes wrong - no, okay, that's clearly a stupid plan. Not think about it until Alfirin has gotten a restful night of sleep and can help her.
She is not at her best but she does work for the rest of the day, mostly on things like figuring out the supply requirements for a weapons-training regime where she doesn't need all that much trust in her own judgment.
That evening after dinner one of Lastwall's wizards comes by their suite to cast the spell on them. "You still need to rest, the same amount of time you'd usually be asleep, but you'll still be awake for it. No vigorous activity, but you can still read, talk, take light walks - stare out into the dark looking for oncoming orc raiders - whatever. Starts when I cast it, if you break it you'll have to sleep the rest of the time as normal."
"I think I don't feel able to - close the loop or something - on the Wish attempt without figuring out what I did wrong and of course we don't know yet because it presumably depends on whether Cheliax caught the people who warned us and I feel sick when I think about that and I want to - figure out what I did wrong - but it's hard when everything is secret. I could also settle for being told what I did wrong but Cansellarion really does not seem to consider instructing me to be in his job remit at all. Which makes sense because a week and a half after I joined his paladin order we accidentally provoked Abrogail Thrune into an act of war against half the continent and now he's supposed to be conquering Cheliax in the spring, and I can't imagine that much of his war planning from before we brought him guns is usable without some serious adaptation, and I really really don't want to waste his time, but I'm not sure anyone else in the world has enough context. I miss Aroden and probably I should try to learn enough about Iomedae to figure out if I - want to trust her the way I trust Aroden - but I don't have time, but it turns out it was kind of psychologically important to love and trust my god, and I'm very aware that these are all childish problems to have and if I tell anyone in Lastwall they will probably be like 'yep, that's the problem with putting teenage girls in charge of your weapons development program', and I rankle about being parsed that way but also I do feel too young for this. And I won't get to grow up, it's all going to be over so fast and at the same time it's never ever going to stop." She pauses. "Just that, I think. How about you, how was your day."
"I wasted it on ink because my judgment and reflexes were too impaired to work with explosives or power tools. I'm fine, really. I don't think your problems are childish, exactly. I think it's normal, to want to be able to love and trust your god, or to want to know how badly you messed up when you make a mistake, or wanting to be treated with respect by your coworkers - it does rankle, a bit, every time I notice them noticing that we're girls."
"I wonder if they have any priests that do…pastoral care…or if that's even been invented yet. It probably wouldn't help if they're not authorized to learn all the secrets. I miss Evelyn because she would not think this was my fault at all and would be upset that all of the benevolent well-intentioned institutions had neglected to look after me properly and I miss my father because he'd think this was my fault but that I could do better. …I miss the idealized version of my father I've been consulting in my head for five years, my real father was probably substantially worse."
"It would be pretty weird if they haven't invented the concept of priests listening to their parishioners' problems and advising them. Maybe not as weird if they had it but not in a way that interacts well with secrecy, or maybe they do it in some overly-structured military theocracy way...
...do you want my thoughts on what you did wrong, or is it not the same coming from someone who's not actually an authority at all."
"I think you didn't actually make a mistake taunting Abrogail - well, not in hindsight. It was a mistake doing it without knowing how she'd respond but if we knew how she'd respond - It was terrifying and you being attacked every night is really scary too, but I think it's still - I think Cansellarion's really glad she doesn't have that wish next spring.
As for losing your sentence… I think a lot of that is just that you're not temperamentally deceptive, and you don't have much practice being deceptive, and you're not always very good at it. And… I don't know, I don't know what it felt like, maybe even if you'd had a ton of practice tricking people it still would've thrown you off - but it seems like if there was an avoidable mistake there, it's just that you never took the time to get good at lying. And I don't think that's actually a mistake."
On the radio, Freedom does not give Abrogail Thrune the satisfaction of knowing the Nightmares are getting to her. She talks with a cleric of Erastil about Erastil and intersperses it with an educational segment on crop rotation.
“Do you plan to marry?” asks the cleric of Erastil, at one point in their conversation.
“Oh, I don’t know. Not while Asmodeus is strangling my country. Maybe once we’ve won.”
“No matter how great the adversity we face, it’s often wise not to face it alone.”
“I agree with that, but - well, some adversities are of a character it’s not wise to bring children into. And some require straightening out which promises you’ve made and which rank the highest. And - marriage, as it functions in many societies, obliges women to the service of men who might well be unworthy of them, and I don’t think much of that at all.”
“All of life is substantially spent in the service of people we might easily judge unworthy of our care.”
“No one is unworthy of our care, but lots of people are unworthy of our service. Every person of any species or shade or origin ought to have safety, and freedom, and an education and a radio and labor by which they can improve their lives, and a knowledge of the evils in the world so they can help solve them. No one can be unworthy of that. Abrogail Thrune’s not unworthy of that. There is no slave and no criminal and no destitute beggar who I am above feeding, if I have food and time and they are hungry.
But to swear to obey another - it is not enough that they are a reasoning being and that good things ought to be theirs. They must also be someone who will fulfill their duties, admit their errors, keep their promises - how many women, every day, give their word to a man they know none of these things are true of, because they have no choice, and how many give their word believing this to be true and learn bitterly that it is false?”
“And so we strive to teach men to be worthy, and women to look for men who are.”
“You could also just tell everyone not to pledge obedience in marriage. Some places don’t.”
“...that does seem to me to be taking it a bit far, damaging many healthy and happy homes to solve a problem that could be solved more directly.”
“Does it damage a healthy and happy home, if a husband and wife pledge to one another that they will both be faithful and both care for the other, in sickness and in health, for better or for worse, that they will honor each other and respect each other, and no one promises obedience?”
“...I suppose it might depend on the home. I have to say, this is not the disagreement I expected you to have. I have met Andoren political radicals before and they were generally in favor of abolishing the family altogether in favor of free love.”
“Well, I think there is nothing modern or radical about trying to talk women into sex while having no intentions of doing right by them, nor about conceiving children you cannot support, both of those being among the oldest vices of mankind.
...with that said, the kinds of people who want to abolish the family altogether in favor of free love can go found experimental communes, and all my goodwill to them, as long as they have some way to ensure no children are conceived to parents who cannot provide them a stable and loving home. There are some ways! I know of one community that pairs young men with older women, and teaches the men continence so they cannot get women with children, and I think that is working to the satisfaction of those involved. I think that some will regret their experimental communes and some won’t but it is in any event the absolute right of any person to pursue their eccentric vision of the good alongside those who share it, if they don’t endanger children thereby.
But most of our listeners are not Andoren political radicals, and they are thinking to themselves that that sounds shocking and appalling, and I propose not that they contemplate free love communes but that they raise honorable sons and honorable daughters and that the sons and the daughters make the same promises, and strive to fairly share the burdens of life and to make its crucial decisions together. …and that women should leave husbands who beat them, I suppose that’s a bit of a radical political opinion.”
“Well, it depends why he beats her, I’d say.”
“Oh? When would you say it’s all right?”
“Well, if it’s a matter of adultery, or - theft, or slander, some matter that in a man would be pursued in court -”
“We reach a very wide audience of people, living under very different legal codes,” says Iomedae, “and it seems perilous to try to make absolute proclamations about all of them. I will say that I stayed once with a woman who refused to ever even hit a child, no matter what they did, and it worked, to raise honorable hardworking children. And if there is anybody who hates to hit their children, but thinks it is their duty, I wish they could know that it is not irresponsible not to, that the virtues can be taught otherwise. And - this seems as true for a spouse, in most cases, though I’ll grant you that it’s complicated in cases where a husband is to act as the law towards his wife. Probably we shouldn’t have that situation, and the law should treat men and women just alike.”
“Should it? Men and women aren’t just alike.”
“The law should treat alike many peoples who are different. I am also broadly against different legal codes for different races of people. Our uniquenesses are admired by our friends and loved ones: the law does not assess our character, and should be consistent and impartial.”
“I think I would say instead that there should not be institutions that need function at a scale where they work by arbitrary rules with no consideration for the individual.”
“That seems like a fully general argument against living anywhere bigger than a village.”
“Well, yes. Erastil thinks cities are…mostly contrary to human flourishing.”
“You know, that’s very fair of him. For now. But when we address disease and learn to build paradise in this world, cities will be much improved, and then He’ll be wrong.”
The difference between Freedom’s affect and Iomedae’s is at this point quite large. Switching Splendour out for Intelligence makes the transition even easier. It’s easy, with the Splendour headband on, to be Freedom, who picks fights on the radio and calls the rulers of countries by entertaining nicknames and is untouchable even by Abrogail Thrune, but when the radio is off she is exhausted and scared and overwhelmed and in meetings she is quiet, unless someone asks her for numbers.
“I don’t,” Iomedae agrees. “A proper night of sleep would probably help but that seems not to be on offer.” Apparently Evil wizards with Nightmares can in fact detect when you’re sleeping and send the spell then, so you can’t foil them just by sleeping infrequently. Lastwall suggested some more magic items but they seem to have only moderately reduced the frequency of the nightmares, and now sometimes she has sleep problems in anticipation of having magical ones. “If I had any ideas to be more okay I would definitely be acting on them but it feels a little insurmountable right now. I can’t exactly take a couple of weeks off. I feel like we gave introspection and discussion a fairly good shake and it didn’t quite get me to - a picture of what I need from myself. Possibly I should ask about wearing Wisdom some time? But I don’t know, it doesn’t feel like I’m having a failure of wisdom, it feels like I’m having a failure of - trying to do a really hard project while unable to sleep because of harassment from Evil wizards and while I have exactly one person in the world I trust, and while a lot of important emotional needs of mine like being able to defend myself are basically not attainable. …we talk about my feelings too much. How have you been doing?”
"Well, awkwardly, if we're trying not to talk about your feelings - my biggest problem right now is that I'm worried about you. Everything else about this is - I mean a lot of things about the world are bad but day-to-day it's fine? I'm running a factory, I'm learning magic, I'm making ridiculous amounts of money that I don't even know how to spend but - it's validating, right, and everyone thinks I'm really smart and they all know I understand the machines better than anyone else - and I have this wonderful girlfriend whose life a bunch of Asmodeans are determined to ruin. I wonder if it's worth trying to sleep in the middle of the day or something. I think the way the spell works they do have to be keeping a powerful wizard of theirs in a coma waiting for you to sleep, I'd be surprised if they went for that 24/7…We should ask someone tomorrow."
"Mmm. You're not sleeping, making it by on magical metaphorical coffee, even if we find a solution here you're scared they'll find something else - I think if I were you I'd find it very satisfying, knowing Abby is making her wizards waste a teleport every day to give me bad dreams, but also I'd be worried they'd escalate to something worse… I feel like you're having a hard enough time here that I'm allowed to worry about you. Even if you can keep powering through it, even if you'll be okay eventually. I care about you and I care about you being okay now even when that doesn't make sense as a strategic priority."
Lean. "I guess you are allowed to worry about me. I'd sure worry if it was you. We should ask someone about whether sleeping in the day will help, and about whether there's anything else they can do even if it's expensive, at least occasionally. Also someone - which means you, as I haven't done great at making any other friends - should appreciate how even though I am in a very bad mood I have picked no fights with our allies at all."
"I bet you the men are and the women are not. For a man it makes a career easier, to have a wife. And it'd in fact be very stupid to have all your most impressive people childless…. Cansellarion might be unmarried. I think a reasonable person whose plan for their life is to take down House Thrune would probably not risk it, if they thought they could bear to live alone. My worst nightmares that aren't sent by Evil wizards are of Abrogail learning about you."
The easiest way to infiltrate Freedom Radio is obviously to get invited to be on Freedom Radio, and so Cheliax seriously contemplates ways to do that. They could have a fake defector start their own radio channel, exposing Chelish secrets in a way that appeals to Freedom, until she invites him on her show, but it's a plan that involves further embarrassment for them if it fails and for a while even if it succeeds. Also they're kind of worried that on exposure to Freedom fake defectors will defect for real. Lilia's been asked to produce a list of candidates for Abrogail, and she grudgingly does so even though she resents every minute spent thinking about the radio brat.
Eventually she proposes allowing the rescue of one of the people captured in the same Wish that failed to get Freedom, who Freedom will of course find irresistible to interview as she can confirm Freedom's story, and implanting a shrunken imp inside her abdomen which should be separately possible to Discern Location on. Abrogail approves. Lilia leaks the information about when Andira Marusek will be in transit for the execution and malediction and tips someone off that a rescue would go well. If the forces of Good don't bite they'll legitimately kill and maledict her and try again with another. She's hopeful they'll bite, though. The tip only has to be good enough for them to ask Iomedae; She can't see that far ahead, any more, and will probably be able to correctly tell them they can get the woman out safely and not able to tell whether, should she eventually appear on the radio, she'll lead them to Freedom. And the forces of Good get so worked up about their people being sent to Hell.
Also around then, the Legend Lore they commenced four weeks earlier finishes. Lilia'd been expecting it not to work, as the little brat isn't a figure of any importance, but that meant that if it did work, it'd be notable - and the wizard says he got a bunch of visions of Iomedae and the Shining Crusade, plus some of unfamiliar foreign lands. Which is…confusing and not very helpful, as you'd expect from a Legend Lore on a person you know very little about. Iomedae was among their top guesses for who the brat was a priest of. This result probably means paladin and not priest, which also explains how she beat the Wish - even forewarned, it would be tricky for most people who aren't very powerful - and, frankly, is more consistent with the girl's identifiable strengths (splendour) and weaknesses (tendency to bait Abrogail Thrune, not a trait widely identified with wisdom).
The Legend Lore result probably also means that someone's planning to declare a crusade against Cheliax soon. Abrogail announces that if they do that, she'll simply pull nearly everyone off the Worldwound, and needs her people to give her a plan which walks the narrow line ‘make the Worldwound much harder for Mendev and Lastwall to hold, but in a way that won't actually result in the whole world being overrun by demons unless Lastwall subsequently fucks up and Iomedae fails to bail them out'. (Mendev fucking up is taken for granted and considered a plus). Surveillance and assassination of Cansellarion and Codwin gets elevated in priority, because if the Church of Iomedae declares a crusade it'll probably be them leading it.
Codwin doesn't bite; Andoran is mobilizing but doesn't want to be baited into starting the war on Cheliax's terms and that's what this obviously is.
Unfortunately for him, Codwin does not actually have the ability to decide policy in a way that means that everyone in Andoran will follow it. Marusek is well-loved by her Eagle Knights and when Codwin tells them there'll be no rescue they arrange one themselves, and pull it off in spectacular style, Teleporting with their insensate prisoner right into Andoran's largest cathedral to get her Healed on the spot. There is an immediate parade. Everyone loves the story that Codwin said it was too dangerous and then they did it anyway; that's the stuff of amazing stories.
Freedom Radio does this as soon as they hear the news! Iomedae obviously feels terrible about the fact she nearly got this woman condemned to Hell and did get her tortured horribly, and quite aside from that they should really have a good meaty episode on abolition soon anyway. She has no idea if Marusek is up for it, but if she is, it's all hers.
Andira Marusek, it happens, has not been tortured too horribly to appear on a radio show. Good fortune, that. She doesn't really want to talk about her week in Cheliax, but she'd be happy to talk about what they'll do with the place once they overthrow its current leadership, and she'd be happy to talk about slavery.
"I thought they'd agreed not to pick fights with us. Can we get them for breaking their paladin rules?" Abrogail is frowning at the map, presumably calculating how many people she'd have to piss off to invade Lastwall. (Molthune, and Nirmathas, unless they're doing it over Lake Encarthan through Druma, and that supply line runs riskily close to the front in Druma…)
"Fine. If we conduct a raid for her, what're they going to do in response, they're very busy -"
"That scares a lot of people we don't want to scare. And gets them out of their declared neutrality."
"Can we pay Razmir to do it?"
"Hasn't been interested, your majesty," says the Queen's international affairs advisor
"Get him interested."
"Yes, your majesty."
Everyone will still know it's you, your majesty, there's no strategic reason to go after this girl except because she's undercutting your regime. She's avoided saying mean things about Razmir, probably for the obvious reason. Lilia does not say this.
"Even Razmir may not be able to," Lilia says, reluctantly. "Arazni built that fortress."
"I really, really doubt it." And Abrogail looks murderous so - "but I do expect we can use our new ability to trace Marusek to our advantage to identify other Eagle Knights, and ultimately we expect her to run for President of Andoran and we at that time can finish what we started with her, time it for when it'll cause a succession crisis."
Blindingly obvious and elegant once he says it, plainly one of the things that being a paladin is for. Hard to think of on the spot when the person asking was tortured horribly and nearly damned because no one bothered to tell her, though.
"- I don't want to discuss further right now because she's waiting, but if there are other policies like that I am evidently not competent to derive them fast enough on the spot, even though I can see how it's obvious. Is there a - book of them -"
"...Yes. I'm sorry, I've been negligent here - usually a new paladin would have learned all of this when they were in training - Oh you haven't had illegal orders training either - Finish your conversation. Then report back here and we'll sort this out, see if there's anything else I overlooked."
"If you want me to give you money I very happily will. If you consider yourself wronged by me that seems very fair of you. But if we disagree about whether it can help, to draw a general rule and follow it when this is plainly not - fair - then I think probably that's because we've mostly seen people draw different lines. I have seen how rich free countries choose where to make their general rules, not as a way out of their obligation to think for themselves and not as a way to drag people down and make them Evil.
...in the country I traveled in before I came here, which is - a free country, much more like Andoran than like any other place in this world they had managed to enforce a taboo on hitting children. It wasn't done. If anyone did it, they'd call special police who protect children from crimes committed against them by their parents. Because if you make it acceptable some parents will be vaguely reasonable and some parents will beat their children half to death and the children won't know when it's reasonable and when it's not, whether the thing that's being done to them isn't the same thing being done to all their friends. Whereas if you tell all the children at school ‘no one should ever hit you, no one should ever touch you in any way you don't like'.
And that's what they did, that's what they told them all …that's what I think of, when I think of general rules. That sometimes you want to weave your messy way through every detail saying ‘look, this case is clearly different from this case', and sometimes you want to draw a great black line down through the whole world and say ‘no special pleading'. The country I travelled through banned slavery except as a punishment for a crime and that still seemed to me to be a little too much like trying to weave our messy way through every detail, where there was the option to instead say ‘go fuck yourself, no, I'm not looking at the details'.
And I am very sorry that you were taken prisoner in the operation to grab me but I'm not in fact sorry for having a general rule about secrets. I promise it is not sparing me any anguish, here. But I think there are some things you - hold to even when it hurts more than anything -"
"Here is a copy of the rules and regulations of the order. You are expected to know them, though you're not required to be able to cite them or quote them verbatim. You are also to attend illegal orders training tomorrow, and to be fitted for a uniform afterward. You're not usually required to wear your uniform. When it's required and when it's forbidden are both covered in the regulations."
She takes the copy of the rules, glances at them. One of them requires her to report if she breaks any of the others, quite sensibly. "Thank you, sir. - I think on a straightforward reading I broke the secrecy rule today, I didn't give the same answer I'd have given if it'd been a surprise."
"I said, "I don't know if I can answer that. I'm sorry. If you'd like I can check whether I can answer that.' But I think if it'd been false I would've said ‘no', and I think she could and did infer that, because I - was paying attention to - the secret rather than the actual underlying policy."
"I see - in the future, of course, an answer like that might be the one you should give, if you are in fact uncertain as to whether the answer to a question would be secret or not. But it does seem like in this case that was an answer that gave away secret information. Thank you for telling me. There will be no disciplinary action. Do you have any other questions?"
"I think 'I need a copy of the regulations of my paladin order' is not exactly a personal problem - and even if it is, it's pretty centrally part of a Lastwall secretary's skillset. And I suspect he was assigned to you to deal with your personal problems as well as project business, that is pretty standard for busy people whose time is valuable."
"Oh. That makes sense." And she has been asking Alfirin to sneak around and figure out what she's supposed to wear to things. She is an idiot. "...I have been reluctant to ask people for things unrelated to the project, especially Lastwall's people for things related to the broadcasts or the war. I notice that people are very indulgent of my incompetence and ignorance and rudeness and I worry it's because of the - family resemblance - or because the project's important, which really ought to be the opposite of an excuse for incompetence - and that they wouldn't tell me, if I'm asking for unreasonable things or - using their effort in a way they wish I wouldn't -."
"...yes?" Obviously?? "Arguably not because I didn't derive it, though it's - obvious enough I should have been able to - but certainly because I didn't ask anyone for a copy of the rules when I realized I needed them, or …think about the fact that of course she'd want to know, and what my answer would be - she could've asked on-air -"
"I think that it was centrally my error; as your commander it is my responsibility to ensure that you know what's expected of you. I failed to do that because I have been very busy with other things, and because I'm not in the habit of being in direct command of junior paladins, and really I should have assigned someone else to be your direct commander but failed to do so because everyone else in the order who is read-in on what the project is is also busy with other important things. Nonetheless, I should have found someone."
They're planning to go to war in a few months. If anyone has to spend time babysitting Iomedae this is obviously Iomedae's fault for needing babysitting, not theirs for having been busy. Iomedae is not going to argue this point because she does not in fact want to be difficult to manage. She struggles for a second to think of a truthful response, given that. "I understand, sir."
"I didn't just mean your age, also - someone who comes to the order at thirty is often still unused to the ways we do things and needs guidance from those who are more experienced. I agree that we would not normally put someone with your level of experience in charge of a project this large and important, but - anyone coming from Earth with the knowledge you have would have been unfamiliar with the way we run operations here. And if your inexperience leaves you unequipped to handle something of this scale, all the more reason that I need to make sure you have adequate support."
"...I think the project - of course it'd be better with more resources but we ask for what we need, and it's going about as well as it could, and I can't think of personal failures that have made it worse that a mentor could have bailed me out of. I think the broadcast is relying on a lot of people I didn't know existed taking risks I can't quite forgive myself for making them take, and also I'm insufficiently skilled in - acting like nothing happened, giving convincing nonanswers - and also it's annoying my allies and I thought that was worth it at the outset but I was totally ignorant of how much they were risking for me and at this point I feel terrible about it. I'm not sure that's a mentorship shortcoming, though it does seem like an example of people maybe letting me get away with things either because of my name or because the project is important, when I did not intend to benefit by either of those things."
"I don't think it's - just, to assure myself you've thought about it and so I can do whatever I want until someone tells me to stop - and I think in a sense you didn't get a fair chance to decide because I didn't ask in advance 'hey, I'm going to expose you to a lot of risk by insulting Abrogail as much as possible, is that worth it to you or just to me -"
"We knew from the beginning that the radio project would be provocative to Cheliax - We didn't know about that particular episode in advance, but we did evaluate whether it was worth the risk of provoking them. We didn't tell you to be careful not to provoke them, which we could have if we were worried. We haven't told you that now.
To be clear - your provocation of Abrogail Thrune is something we consider to have been a success, not a failure. Without intending to comment at all on what was actually lost here -" because he doesn't know what was actually lost, on top of the normal obvious secrecy reasons not to say, "- If one of our agents in Cheliax had had their cover blown, for this, and was tortured and sent to Hell - this is something that everyone we send into Cheliax knows might happen. They took that risk willingly, and in this case what we won for it was absolutely worth the risk."
"Yes, of course. Even when Freedom picks fights with our priests about how Lastwall isn't a democracy, that's - it probably causes Cheliax to think you're not working with us, it's good for her credibility - if we thought you were making mistakes that we'd noticed we'd tell you.
…I understand why you were a lot gentler with Andira, but it would probably be a mistake to be similarly uncharacteristically gentle with Codwin if you can ever get him on."
"I want to emphasize that that's just my perspective, not an order. You still know a lot more about radio shows than anybody else. My guess is that if people get too strong of an impression of your show as being an Andoren show pushing Andoren politics it will have less of an impact but if you have reasons to think otherwise it's your call."
"I think I'd feel uncomfortable having orders about the tenor of the show because I'm representing myself to people as saying what I want, but I agree with you. I have plenty of fights I can pick with Andoran. …sort of similar to some of the ones I had with America, actually! It turns out one thing people do with freedom is run away from all their responsibilities."
"I do not expect to give you any orders about the tenor of the show, for that reason. Though while we are on the topic - And do not take this as an indictment, I am sure you have enough sense that this order is redundant but it seems better not to rely only on my guess of your good sense here - you are forbidden from broadcasting any military secrets, or information about the progress of your other project, on your radio show."
Iomedae still isn't sleeping very often or very well but it turns out that having a list of the rules of her paladin order and an assurance that she'll be told if she's taking too many risks makes her not scared, somehow, and everything else is just easier to face if you're not scared. She continues to not have political opinions during strategy meetings but it's a deliberate effort of will instead of being scared and tired and not even really feeling like saying anything.
She gets Codwin on the show and expresses the opinion that the rest of the world, looking at Andoran, might reasonably think that democracy and a national ethos of irresponsibility go hand in hand, and the opinion that no state worth emulating has beggar children on its streets, and that if it were true of humans that this was what freedom produced then that would be fairly discouraging. Codwin seems fairly exasperated but it probably plays well at home for him to vocally defend his people against complaints that they are the worst, and probably plays well everywhere else for Freedom to make the case against them.
"I think you could stand to have more sympathy," he says, "for the plight of a woman who finds herself pregnant with a child she cannot support. Should she subject herself and her child to years of abuse at the hands of a man she didn't love, even if she can get him to agree to that? Is that the highest triumph of civilization, for all of them to suffer together until someone gets sick and dies and then leaves them in the same plight anyway?"
"When I was fifteen a man tried to force himself on me," Freedom says thoughtfully. "...I stabbed him, but that's a bit besides the point. If he'd succeeded I certainly wouldn't have married him, nor would I claim that other people ought to, in that situation. To become a mother alone and unready is a terrible thing but not the most terrible thing, and I think to become a wife to a man like that is worse.
I would have wanted the society around me to help me feed myself and my child and help me care for the child, and not to assume that I'd been at fault in whatever came to pass, and for men to consider whether they'd marry me, as they might a widow. I'd want people to look at me and have, in their hearts grace and mercy and the knowledge that no one can actually be so virtuous as to be spared all misfortune.
I would not want them to tell me to abandon my child. I would not want them to tell me it'd be all right if I abandoned my child. Those things aren't all right and I don't like being lied to. If sympathy for this woman means that we agree that her lot is outrageously hard, I have it. If it takes the form of helping her with her expenses and watching her child for her and embracing her with love and compassion, you are entirely right to demand it. If sympathy for her takes the form of claiming that she can't be expected to do the right thing, that if you're wronged enough yourself it's okay to start doing Evil - well, it's not.
And every abandoned child is abandoned by two parents, and their fathers have precisely the same duty to them, and are just as guilty if they fail in it. Their abandonment is less obvious, it's less dramatic, but it's just as despicable. Don't sleep with people if you aren't prepared to raise your children. It really is that simple. You will never be respected as a free people if that's what you do with your freedom."
Having even a little bit of access to teleportation is of disproportionate value, with a factory; if production is held up on one reagent, and it exists somewhere, you can dispatch the wizards to go get some immediately. They've had delays for supply problems, and delays for quality assurance problems, but really fewer of them than they have any right to, considering the sheer number of people and moving parts.
Iomedae is exhausted, but now that she doesn't feel lost and scared it's the good kind of exhaustion, the ache of exercise. They're going to have rifles for approximately Cansellarion's whole army, and a couple of really good ones made to much more precise tolerances through the strategy of making the barrels really large and then using Shrink Item, for sniping at nearly a mile of range. They're going to have portable radios. (Alfirin wants radar too, but portable radar wouldn't be ready by spring regardless so she hasn't put the time into building a prototype to test whether it picks up invisible creatures. Next year, maybe, if the war lasts that long.) They're going to have the crank guns, now working to the specifications Iomedae and Alfirin had memorized as achievable.
They invite Lastwall's command for a demonstration once they finally have the crank guns down.
Iomedae finds it very endearing how little anyone in Lastwall seems bloodthirsty. It is really a failure mode you would expect in a military dictatorship at war with their orc neighbors and the forces of both Hell and the Abyss. Whatever else Iomedae the goddess did she does not seem to teach them to take joy in the destruction of their enemies. "Where machine guns go from here is using recoil or the explosive gasses to operate the reloading mechanism," she says. "Alfirin thinks she can do it and have a few ready by the spring. And making it a little lighter will probably let paladins with weapon bonds have a weapon bond with it, which they presently cannot. …Greater Magic Weapon doesn't help with the accuracy, probably because you aren't aiming. It does help with the damage. The weapons enchanter thinks making it seeking would help a lot with the accuracy, but isn't going to have that figured out by spring."
"How many of Lastwall's wizards do work that could be hired out to untrusted wizards if there were untrusted wizards willing to do it for pay?" Iomedae asks her secretary. Having been given permission to badger her secretary about things not related to the project she now does it constantly. He’s hired another assistant.
" - sure, I suppose that's a reasonable thing to do. Or if anyone else has proposals on what I should do with the - it's a lot more than ten thousand pounds, right?" She hasn't checked. She's aware this is slightly irresponsible. She did take Alfirin's suggestion to have much of it in ownership shares but it's so much money that even only having a fifth of it in cash is an awful lot.
"I think if you started the conversation yourself Cansellarion might be more willing to advise you on that, and I think that he - or someone else high up in his order - would know better than I do right now. I can ask his people for a report on their spending priorities?" This all seems very indirect relative to just donating money to the order.
Iomedae doesn't know how donating money to the order works!! She doesn't know how anything works! "That sounds good, thank you. And I'll try asking him directly."
She complains to Alfirin that evening, though. "It does not feel intrinsically dishonorable behavior, to me, to have said to us the day we decided that the war would begin in the spring, 'also, if we had another four hundred thousand Absalom pounds here's how we'd spend them'."
"It's not that I'm going off nothing at all. He follows, very closely, the thing that - it feels to me like paladins are for - and he's careful about important things, and obviously he picked the most important problem in the world to work on. And saved me, I guess I'm also giving some credit for that. But also probably to some degree what is going on is that I feel safer and happier when I trust the people I work for and that probably caused me to trust him more, even though it really shouldn't work like that."
"Well. Maybe he was correct to not bring up the money. But I think I want to give it to him. On a purely selfish practical level I want Abrogail Thrune dead inside the year, right, and on a purely altruistic level I also think that winning the war is the most important thing. I'd feel tremendously stupid if the war went badly in a way that fabulous riches could've solved, and I can't imagine anything I'll find to spend it on where I'll wish I didn't spend it overthrowing Cheliax."
He sighs. "Everything I can think of better than 'give the money to me to spend on the Order' I've already spent the Order's funds on until it's not a better way anymore. But we try very hard to discourage the sort of culture where our paladins give all their pay right back to the order.
…I'm inclined to ignore that in your case, but only because of your - family resemblance. If you're trying to avoid special treatment."
"It makes sense to me that it would be - bad for the culture of the order, that it'd make it hard for people to have a felt sense that they are - earning money, independently, the effects of which they are responsible for independently, that it feeds the inclination to - trust anything you're in any event acting like you trust, to take your own sacrifices as evidence of their correctness. I do have that tendency, though I try to ignore it.
But also it really seems like this is an unusual case. Not because of the family resemblance necessarily but because - it's a lot of money, you didn't pay me most of it, I'm going to earn a lot more of it, and if I'd suddenly decided I cared about nothing but my own long life I'd still really want you to take down Cheliax inside this year. And if it makes you feel better I was planning to keep enough for a Teleport and to build a new broadcasting station, if I ever want to leave."
"Are you planning on putting anything aside for things that make you happy? It's what I'd be concerned about if it were another idealistic young paladin. I do think since it's mostly not your salary - entirely not your salary if you're setting aside a teleport and a broadcast station - a lot of the usual concerns don't apply."
"Usually someone pursuing a romantic relationship would be encouraged to save for - a home, a plot of land - though I suppose that advice doesn't exactly apply, for your case…I think you not having much of anything you can think of to spend the money on, selfishly, would be the sort of thing I'd be worried about if not for the family resemblance."
Iomedae tries to imagine how she might feel about it later, if she'll wish she had more selfish precious things. If she didn't have Alfirin, maybe. But she does have Alfirin. And if she and Alfirin someday want a plot of land they'll be rich enough to raise it out of the sea like Aroden did, or like the Dutch.
And she knows what conditions make her unhappy. They aren't about deprivation. They're about not knowing if she's working on the right thing and if she's treating her allies fairly and if she'd hear about it if she was making a mistake. It really doesn't feel like there'll be some point where she'll be unable to keep going unless she stops being sure she's headed in the right direction. "She did it, though? Just worked on fixing stuff until it made more sense to work from Heaven?"
Cansellarion has known for a long time how he'll do it, once he has the resources to do it. Isger, then along the foothills of the Menador mountains into central Cheliax, likely meeting the Chelish army on the Fields of Chelam. The opening assault, on Citadel Dinyar where it's perched in the Aspodel Mountains, has to be high-magic; the fortress is accessible overland only by a narrow, winding mountain pass all of which is exposed to shot from the fortress. It goes on for ages, built into the mountain itself, and there's no way a small Teleport-capable team could clear it, but they can clear the walls and let everyone else march in. And then, Hellknights being at least nominally lawful, perhaps they can negotiate their surrender and send them to the Worldwound. The Godclaw's really about as not-bad as any military force defending the Thrune regime could possibly be.
The other reason to go after Dinyar first is that they have Heart's Edge. They can't even use it, not being paladins. They keep it in a vault. Cansellarion obviously does not himself feel worthy of wielding Iomedae's sword but there isn't really much question about whether She'd want him to, and the symbolism is excellent. (If the other Iomedae weren't quite so young and inexperienced there'd be the temptation to have her participate openly in the invasion, as herself, with her sword, but she flatly can't do it and it's not worth waiting until she possibly could.)
When he talked with Codwin about this a year ago Andoran planned to stay out of it. They'd be gambling their entire country, whereas Cansellarion pointedly isn't gambling Lastwall; he's launching his operations from his own holdings in Nirmathas, and even if they are defeated and destroyed it's unlikely Cheliax will be able to destroy Lastwall in their retaliation. But Andoran is much easier for Cheliax to take and to hold.
Guns change that. With guns, Andoran ought to be able to hold its border even against a much larger Chelish force. They don't have enough guns, yet, to give them to Andoran this spring, but they may well have enough by summer, at which point Andoran will quite plausibly be willing to join the war. And the Wish-attempt changed the situation too; everyone in Andoran is screaming for a fight, and Codwin intends to deliver it to them and is scrambling to figure out how to make it one that doesn’t gamble his whole country.
If they win on the Fields of Chelam he intends to bypass Egorian and go for Westcrown. It's the true capital, and if they take Rivad they can hold the Adivian against the Chelish navy, which they otherwise lack any real way to deal with.
(Navies go down to a few Meteor Swarms. He asked Morgethai, and she said she didn't have the spell and much preferred uses of her ninth circle spells in the war effort that aren't immediately obvious to Cheliax (and therefore did not immediately communicate that she had expended her ninth circle spells for the day). He asked Nefreti, and she said…'You are going to have to wait for someone even older and more foolish than me, or someone younger, or someone wiser, or they aren't here and you will die'.
…actually.)
"No," says Nefreti impatiently. "I can do half of Teleportation Circles. I can give quests to adventurers. I can't do anything about Arazni, obviously. I can tell you when all is lost. I can change how many boats there are, though not who the boats belong to, I'm not good at details like that."
Freedom Radio manages, with some finagling, to get the infrastructure up to take calls from listeners. The way they have this work is that listeners in locations with their own transmission-capable radios (which include many towns, at this point) can call in to one of several frequencies monitored by Freedom Radio's staff, and then if they have something interesting to say that frequency can play in the room Iomedae's in. Sound quality is an ongoing problem, but Iomedae thinks it's worth it for the opportunities to authentically talk to people on-air.
They get listener questions about various heresies. Various rumors. A lot of people want to be on the air just to ask if anyone else anywhere in the world has heard anything about a lost loved one. Iomedae coldbloodedly figures a little human interest content helps with ratings but you've got to keep it limited, and does so.
"When," one man says coldly to her after a few weeks of this, "is the last time you've talked to a normal human being who isn't part of your little rebel cell? Not counting the radio calls."
"Unfortunately that's secret," Freedom says. "But if you are saying that I am clueless and out of touch with the concerns of ordinary people I am inclined to believe you. I have led an unusual life, this last while."
"You're oblivious. It's maddening. You think anyone takes issue with the Church of Iomedae because Her country's not run by the mob?"
"I sincerely take issue with it for that reason! Why do you?"
"Because they hung my son as a cultist. He wasn't a cultist. His cousin was probably dabbling with some nonsense he should never have gotten into, but all my son did was not report his cousin to die, and anyone would do that."
"Certainly at least a lot of people would. And it's a hanging offense in Lastwall, and you think it shouldn't be?" Iomedae's insides feel cold. It's not the sort of question they asked when they were trying to decide what to think of Lastwall. It's not - strictly inconsistent with things she did read, things that made sense to her at the time - the regulations of her paladin order state that it could if appropriate to the situation put her to death, for concealing a capital crime, but that struck her as entirely just. And she didn't bother asking -
"I don't know a thing about Lastwall. It's a hanging offense in Kenabres."
She doesn't even know where that is. "Well, I'll say I agree with you that if that's the whole of the situation I don't think it should be one. It - sounds like your son didn't trust that his cousin would get a fair trial."
"Of course he wouldn't get a fair trial. Why would the Church of Iomedae care about fair trials?"
It's like the gut-wrenching feeling of a Wish trying to kidnap you, except this is in fact all her fault, for not checking. "Well, the reason anyone Lawful ought to care about a fair trial is that it's how you tell whether people are guilty, and the reason anyone Good ought to care is that it's how you ensure people don't live in terror, and anyone ought to care about making sure that people like your son are willing to go to the authorities, which they only will be if the authorities are fair and merciful and concerned for the wellbeing of everyone."
"You're a silly little girl," the man says.
"Do you know of other cases where you think people have not gotten a fair trial?"
"I have watched six hundred people hang since they stopped burning them and I promise you not one of them got a fair trial. Maybe got the chance to say under a truth spell that they'd never done anything wrong, if that was true, but who's that true of?"
"I don't know," says Freedom. "Certainly not me. Are you in danger, from having made this complaint to us? Should I send someone to -" No, she can't have him picked up and brought to Vigil, she can't, she doesn't know what avenues that gives Lastwall to make him recant but there have to be some - "get you money and resources you can use to flee to safety?"
"If I cared what they did to me, I wouldn't have called," the man says.
"I am very grateful that you did. Now, you understand, I have to check if this is true, but if it is, then it's lawless and evil and we'll have to put an end to it. And listeners elsewhere, I want to ask you: is this true in your cities and countries? Are things unusually bad in Kenabres, or is that how the law works for everyone? We usually end at the top of the hour, but I'm going to stay on two hours more, tonight, because the more we know, the more we can change things."
But of course the people she has filtering the incoming channels will filter who she talks to - if Alfirin's smart (and Alfirin is a genius) she's tuned into one of those channels already, and can tell Iomedae later if that's what happened -
"Our priest's a good man, and fair. No one thought the Carter boy had killed his father, but they'd been heard fighting so he had to do a truth spell, and he wouldn't deny it, so the priest sat and talked with him a few hours and eventually he said he did it, in a fit of madness, and regretted it more than anything, and was ready to die and be judged for it, and the priest said that instead to repent he could dig out the whole pass between 'saville and Games, and have given our village as much as he'd robbed of it, and it took him ten years but he did it, and at first no one would talk to him when he came in for the channel at night but after a few years folks saw he was serious. It would've been fair to hang him but I think this way's better."
"I don't see why you shouldn't hang a man, for not reporting a den of cultists. The cultists will summon demons or something and kill everyone. They ought to be reported, and if you're not reporting them you are probably at least sympathetic to them. The man was in the wrong, and it was for the good of the whole city if he was hanged for it."
"I would say that the cultists certainly ought to be reported, though it's not surprising they wouldn't be, if they won't get a fair trial. And I would say that anyone who doesn't report them to a fair court has done wrong himself. But I wouldn't say he should die of it. That's justice, maybe, but it's justice done in a way that weakens the fabric of society rather than strengthens it.
Now, maybe when we learn more of this situation we'll learn he did more than not report them, hid evidence of their crimes, and that'd be different. Or maybe we will learn he was a sworn officer of the law, and still did not act, and in that case I think they'd be right to hang him. But in the case described, what I hear is a legal system that people don't believe to be just, punishing them for acting like they don't believe it's just, and thereby further degrading their faith in it, and I don't like it at all."
Eventually they go off air. If Iomedae's listeners are to be trusted (a big if) there is substantial variance in readiness to put people to death but Kenabres is much worse than anything anyone else described.
Iomedae sits there. She probably shouldn't sit here. She should probably do something. She just can't quite think what.
"I don't even know if this was secret," she says miserably. "I didn't ask what they kill people over. I wasn't expecting them to be all American about it. I have no idea how merciful it is reasonable to expect people with these resources to be. …if I think an order isn't lawful, I should not obey it, even if it’s not in the category I was trained on, but 'I don't like how often this radio caller claims you execute people' doesn't make an order to stay in secure locations where Cheliax can't steal me unlawful. Not that I've been so ordered, but I expect to be if we try to leave."
'I asked some of the workers, too - I really don't think it's normal here. It still seems very evil to me, to execute people for not informing on their neighbors - but for all I can tell that could have been one rogue priest, and if it's more widespread we can do more about it here than in Andoran…"
"Yep. I am curious whether they'll say anything about it, and if so it'll be 'that's a rogue priest' or 'that's fine, what are you upset about', but - mostly I'm just thrown off because I'm reminded how high stakes everything is, and how hard it is to have the whole picture of what's going on."
"If you don't want to tell me anything that's fine," Xiomara says as soon as they're behind closed doors, "But I'd appreciate you staying the whole half hour even if so, and not telling anyone what we did or didn't discuss. That said, I think something is troubling you and I'd like to know what, if you can and wish to say."
…she likes these people. She really really likes these people, and trusts them, they make sense to her, it's not impossible to believe it's the civilization she'd have built if she didn't know that it was possible to make democracy work. That's why it keeps hurting every time she needs reminding that, in fact, they run a military dictatorship - "I got a caller on the radio who wanted to make the case that the real problem with the Church of Iomedae is that they executed his son, for not reporting his cousin for being in some kind of cult. I don't know if that's what happened, I don't have a good way to check if that's what happened, not all the callers thought it was a problem even if that's exactly what happened, but it saddened me. America was so stupidly rich they hardly ever put anyone to death and I don't expect that but -"
"Then… I would not be surprised to learn that that's what really happened. The Church in Mendev is a mess, the nobility of Mendev fervently resists every attempt we make to clean it up or even just explain theology to them - and they do genuinely have a serious problem with demonic cults. I don't know if I would manage to do better if it was me, there. I suspect I would but it's very easy to look from afar and judge a task far easier than it is when you're actually up close and doing it."
"Well, generically 'serving our enemies' isn't a crime, it's much too vague - if someone can say under a truth spell that they don't worship Asmodeus or any devils, that they've never called a devil or made a pact with one, and that they don't plan to do any of those things - maybe with some more similar clauses depending on the particular case - they won't be convicted of diabolism."
"Yes. Well - they say what they'd want to say under a truth spell, and work out with the court a set of things they can say that would clear them if true, and then they get a truth spell. The court pays for it, unless they can't - or refuse to - actually say the things they worked out ahead of time."
"The government in America was very powerful. They had more than a million prisoners. They intervened whenever parents hit their children hard enough to leave a mark. The person assigned to mind Alfirin and I was required to send summaries about how we were adapting to being Americans every week to her minder, along with records of what kind of blood we had and whether we were angry, and they considered us poor illiterate farmworkers of no significance whatsoever to anyone. America is not really trying to have an obedient population, that's the kind of control they had without trying. In some ways they were trying not to. They made a lot of rules that protect the right to - dissent against the government, to protest its processes, to refuse to be complicit in it - you can say anything true, in America, and you can peacefully assemble with any number of other people for any reason including to protest the government, and you cannot be compelled to testify if by truthfully doing so you would incriminate yourself. And it's not just the laws, there's also a matter of - what the culture valorizes - if a man leaks military secrets to prove that the country went to war unnecessarily for evil reasons, is he a traitor or a hero?
America has - made up legendary heroes, since it doesn't have real ones, the most famous one called Captain America. They make big two-hour immersive-illusion-stories about him. In the one that came out shortly before we left America, Captain America learns that the U.S. military has developed a secret new weapons system that lets them watch every person in the country and calculate if they represent a threat, and kill them if they are. He objects immediately, they say that it's for the greater good and necessary given all the threats to the world out there, he continues objecting and ends up at war with his own country. Now, of course, it turns out that the Asmodeans - the Nazis, but it's basically the same thing - are behind this effort, and once Captain America defeats it his country embraces him again, but - it struck me, when I watched it, as a very American movie, a movie from a people with no external enemies, correctly identifying their greatest enemy as their own government's impulses towards trying to keep them in line, and correctly identifying the role of their greatest heroes as - hearing an elaborate justification for how this serves the good and then saying 'no'.
There are countries on Earth that exercise far more control over their citizens than I think Cheliax possibly can. They watch them every waking moment. They know every purchase they make. It is a natural direction for places to move in, as they become wealthy and powerful. I strongly suspect it's evil, but it's a complicated kind of evil made out of parts that are many of them individually compelling. You can get crime rates very low, that way.
I don't know if I have any real disagreements with the goddess Iomedae or if it's entirely just that She's smarter and better at prioritization and has very complex tradeoffs to manage and will start managing them in different directions as soon as the horrible emergencies are over. But the thing that - jumps out - and that seems like something She could be missing, because I sure didn't see it until I'd seen something else - is the ways in which you absolutely can, teach children to report their parents and their friends, build a state where everyone in it is loyal only to the state because the state will ultimately punish their loyalty to anything else, where it's easy to do, where it's made of trades which many of them seem like good trades, unless you cherish stubbornness and rebelliousness, themselves, quite a lot.
Earth has countries run by their armies and they are bad countries to live in, because armies cannot possibly cherish stubbornness and rebelliousness. Well, for a lot of reasons, but my best guess is legitimately that that's one of those reasons.
I think if I learned about a priest of Iomedae doing some tragic and destructive thing that was unrelated to this - fear of mine, that She just prefers human society be organized into military dictatorships which will listen to Her - then I would be sad, but I wouldn't be afraid. But when I learn that she has empowered people who are doing this - very common thing, that works very well, and has this lovely orderly endpoint - it's hard to be sure, if She thinks it's bad and can't do better, or if She thinks it's fine. This is not really very fair to any of you. You are by far the most human freedom respecting military dictatorship I've ever encountered, and a lot moreso than an Earth military dictatorship could possibly have had, and She has to be part of the difference.
But - you said earlier that you don't think it'd work, executing people for not reporting their loved ones. I think it works, though mostly by making people who know they can't trust each other. I think it works well and I'd renounce a priest for trying it.
If I were a god, which I'm not.
There are two stories that make sense of everything I have seen, and in one of those stories people with an impossible task are working very diligently at it and being chided wherever they fail to meet the standards of a spoiled child from another world, and in the other I am repeatedly ignoring sign after sign that the Church is not actually Good as I understand the Good, doesn't cherish the things I cherish, and that Iomedae's purposes do not actually particularly resemble mine. I'd run off and wander around talking to peasants in random places and check, except Cheliax would find me very quickly, and also I don't even know if it'd be a good check, since half the question is about which things Iomedae will purchase when She's richer as She's soon to be. I'm sure all of this is much easier to be sure of if one is fairly confident no one's carefully managing one's access to information about Iomedae but -"
She's getting disorganized. She stills herself. "I am ill-equipped to straighten out any of this right now, and will be for a long time, and it hardly matters because you can't be worse than Cheliax, and I'm not planning to be difficult about it. But it did bother me quite a lot."
But of those two possible lenses on the situation you laid out, it's definitely the 'spoiled child' one, Iomedae is inferring as the unspoken next sentence.
Iomedae with deliberate effort doesn't feel annoyed. She isn't any good at diplomacy but she can avoid being difficult to satisfy. "And I see how with all of the problems that you have, some people in another country enforcing some ill-advised laws is not an emergency of particular note, even if they're priests of your god, unless it startles your badly acculturated engineering team."
"I wouldn't say that, exactly - it's a situation we don't have very much ability to influence. We've definitely tried. It used to be much worse than it is now, we recalled and reassigned everyone involved that we could, but we only have so much influence in Mendev and we've spent a lot of it on this already. I didn't address whether the Goddess' purposes, and Lastwall's purposes diverge from yours because I can't say whether they do, with the limited perspective I have on America and what you want from the world."
"- see, that you recalled and reassigned everyone involved that you could is much more reassuring. If you'd said that at first I wouldn't have been alarmed! But you could also - start a radio channel, that explains Iomedaean orthodoxy, if the people in Mendev don't know it. They are evidently listening. I will believe you if you tell me everyone is too busy but it's an easier task now, to make sure your priests in other countries know their religion properly.
It matters to me, a lot, if I share your Goddess's purposes, and if I share yours, but it doesn't actually change anything right now. If you have questions that'd let you venture a guess I'll answer them, because it'd be good for my own mood, if I trusted Her the way I trusted Aroden, but, I mean - I think America captured some important things about virtue and human flourishing in a rich world. I think all of it is missing the point while Hell rules a country. The Church of Iomedae has a system for solving that problem and I mean to obey it and it's fine if everything else waits."
"It does seem somewhat beside the point. But I'll try, while we're here, and if I can't resolve the question and it's affecting your work we can find you a priest. A month ago, to make a point, you said something about American men and women wearing nothing but chocolate - I think you made the point you were making well, but I don't know if that's - considered ideal behavior by Americans, if it's a part of what you think America knows about flourishing in a rich world…?"
Iomedae flushes. "I was rude and have since attempted to stop being similarly rude in similar situations. I… was trying to point at something that - would raise eyebrows even in America, honestly, but - which would raise eyebrows as silly behavior rather than as immoral behavior, and that is in that context genuinely not Evil. I doubt I find it much less personally upsetting than anyone else here.
…America has fairly reliable means of preventing pregnancy, and that by itself is just good and part of flourishing in a rich world, right, if a woman's going to die of the next child she and her husband don't have to try to live apart, if they're in desperate straits they can wait until they're in better ones. I think that is good.
When it is commonplace, a society gives up on teaching chastity to its children almost entirely, in favor of teaching them not to have children unready, and not to put undue pressure on anyone. This produces - kind of a lot of societal changes, some good, some bad, some mostly confusing. Men in America just don't care if a woman's slept with a dozen people before him. Almost everyone in America tends to experiment before marriage. As far as I can tell, for some people, this goes all right, and for some people it is very terrible. Some people have innate inclinations such that, even under the best possible material circumstances, they will be miserable if they have casual flings with strangers. Some people have innate inclinations such that if you create the right material circumstances, they'll be perfectly happy, or claim to be and act like it and at some point it's rude to contest it. I guess I don't really think the second group is doing anything wrong, though I think a society which tells the first group they should be licentious is obviously wronging them thereby.
I think that the technology is inevitable and that implies the necessity of figuring out rules that survive the transition, because the old rules don't, but - it certainly wasn't one of the things I liked about America. When I say that I think I might have differences with you that is not one I had in mind."
"They don't know. Their gods stopped talking to them. They give lots of money to the poor and oblige by law all hospitals to care for the sick whether or not they can pay. They try to have a rule against anyone ever hitting a child. But also they have a lot of abortions, because their methods of preventing pregnancy are only mostly reliable and they don't know it's Evil, they just hotly debate it. And they torture the animals because it makes food cheap. But also they buy all kinds of elaborate enrichment toys for their dogs because they want them to be happy. They run international programs to fight disease. And they are involved in a couple of different foreign wars at all times. I think if you met a person from America they would strike you as notably good, compared to people from Imperial Taldor. The President of America is wildly more Good than any Emperor I've ever heard of.
They're - trying for Goodness, with no gods to guide them, and no signs of whether they've found it, and I would hope the Judge gives them lots of credit for trying but they sure are often wrong."
"Not - like Golarion does. There are evil rulers who treat their people cruelly. America sometimes starts wars about that but it doesn't usually improve the situation when they do - and it's always, you know, a little unclear whether they really thought it would - and there are the torture farms, and the complicated Evils of ignorance - they have so many abortions - there's a history of World War II I read in which the leader of an allied country says of the Americans, they always do the right thing after they have exhausted all of the alternatives, and there's something to that. But even given all of that they have done far more to make the world Good than a place dedicated to it that wasn't as free, or rich, or inventive, because you can purchase so much good when you are free and rich and inventive."
"They - as a consequence of not knowing what Goodness is, have to teach people how to try to figure it out instead of teaching them the answers. I think that captures something of the Good, and I think - well, it was a skill that was needed in this world too at some point and I guess I doubt that my first self solved it and it's no longer needed.
Perhaps relatedly I think they are more - tolerant of nonconformity. Though that might just be that I can only talk to people cleared to know about me and America doesn't grant its weird people security clearances either.
You're …not as Arodenite as I would really have expected. You do not take very much - joy in the achievements and strength of human civilization. You do not act like it is your birthright to surpass your gods. But it is. Even if She's the best possible thing She could be, She clearly can't do it alone, and - not all of the strengths we'll need to win are represented, in Her - She's not a god of invention and technology - And Americans aren't even sure if they have any gods but they have much more of the attitude that one ought to personally grow up to improve on them."
"I can talk to a priest." She still feels strange about the idea, and she isn't sure why. Maybe because it'd be obviously incorrect to go to a priest seeking reassurance that she should trust the goddess, and yet that feels like more the kind of thing to expect from a priest than a clear-eyed assessment - is that unfair to priests? Probably. "Thank you."
"I mean, it's not entirely irrelevant, it's worse to do witch burnings if there aren't even any real witches. But yes. It felt like they agreed it was unfortunate and would do something about it if they saw something to do about it but did not feel like it was a colossal betrayal of everything their goddess stands for that they should immediately all go on the radio and vocally denounce - though maybe when I get a magistrate they will feel that way, I was advised to get a magistrate."
"No. Different legal system, and anyway if they're dead it wouldn't help that much. Just to speak on the radio about how the law's supposed to work and what they're doing wrong if that's what they're doing in Kenabres. I am tempted to go to Kenabres myself and ask questions pointedly, though - many possible ways of doing it are an unacceptable risk - and if I talk about it on the air it implies a lot about the resources of my organization-."
"Yeah. Risky to go to a war zone for interviews, and it tells the world that you can afford to teleport to a war zone for interviews." Probably it would be good - for the radio show, for her sanity - for Iomedae to leave Vigil occasionally to do some reporting, but it doesn't seem very safe, and 'the border of the worldwound where people get executed for not reporting their friends to the inquisition' seems like a particularly unsafe place to go.
"If you say so… I'll save my intrepid reporting from Kenabres for when the war starts, and Cheliax has bigger problems. I assume we'll be even busier but it could be done in a few hours and it'll be good for me and someone's got to take it appropriately seriously. …I guess I do need to confirm that the plan is for me to remain here for the war's duration. Most of the order's empowered paladins are, you know, participating in the fighting."
"You know when we were planning all this back on Earth I never imagined that when it came down to the actual fighting they might want you sheltered away from the front and me at it - They don't, I expect, but if we'd had the tanks and artillery out sooner they might've."
"I don't think it makes any sense right now. They need bullets more than they need field engineers, they're going to be giving up on anything a Mending doesn't fix and we could only with difficulty improve on that… if we had ten years we'd have such a good army. I don't think it's worth waiting but I was definitely imagining we'd have more time before it was directly engaged in the most important fight."
"It doesn't seem worth waiting, no. We'd have had such a good army, though… Maybe it's for the best. If we decide when it's all over that it doesn't make sense for Lastwall to be holding all the guns, we'll probably be glad they don't have planes or howitzers." Or nuclear weapons, but they don't speak of those anymore.
Iomedae is mildly surprised that they haven't asked to meet her. She sort of imagines that if you want to understand your god it'd be useful to have a version of her on hand even if it's a teenager who isn't sure she agrees with the god. You could at least pick out which were the persistent tendencies and which ones were situational. Raise a hundred Iomedae-clones in a hundred different families in Lastwall - she should suggest that, actually - no, the technology's way too distant - "I don't know. I'm trying to figure out if I should trust the Goddess. Is that a common problem?"
"I actually don't know all that much formal theology. I read through the holy book but" now she's embarrassed with herself, "the week I got here, when my Taldane literacy was pretty shaky. I - maybe you should get a theologian who doesn't know who I am but would be very qualified to notice any ways in which I am a heretic, that would probably be very informative all by itself."
Iomedae is not in her scifi jumpsuit or in uniform, in favor of looking like a wizard she saw in Absalom once. She isn't sure how to expect this to go but it probably goes differently if it is established she's already an empowered paladin. "I am trying to figure out if I agree with Her, and if I understand Her. The difficulty I'm having is that it seems hard to guess what She would want, if there weren't a country ruled by Hell and a rift to the Abyss, and if She'd finished her war with Tar-Baphon, and - I don't know. It's hard to evaluate a god who seems mostly busy barely not losing a lot of different wars. I think I want Her to win those but it's not the same thing as trusting Her. Do you trust Her?"
"My situation is kind of complicated. I think probably I mostly want to know the things that would be relevant to someone considering joining Her church….Iomedae can't possibly meet those standards in general, there are people who want, I don't know, some horrible thing, and it couldn't possibly go better for them to obey Her than to do anything else, unless by 'better' you mean 'more Lawfully Good' -"
“It is the case that if one is receiving orders directly from Iomedae - which is of course a pretty rare phenomenon - following those orders will go better by your values accounting for all the possible futures rather than just the one that happens. She of course cannot guarantee that as well as She could when prophecy obtained, but this mostly means that She has a higher standard for how sure she has to be that things will work out well in order to order them.”
“I think She does not do that, or rather not for those reasons. It is believed that it is often less expensive for Her to give people information that they would value having, rather than giving orders. But She applies the same standards to all communications She initiates with mortals, that collecting all the futures they are better for the mortals She is communicating with.”
"There are no Lawful Good gods that we know to be deliberately deceptive, giving someone orders with the intent to make them act against their interests. There are Lawful Good gods much more alien than Iomedae, who would not be able to act at all if they held themselves to the comprehension of mortal priorities She has, and there's Shizuru, who ...doesn't make decisions very much, and we think when people get interventions from Her they’re effectively decisions made by a small and disconnected fragment of Her which came unmoored from the rest."
"Mostly, worshippers benefit a god by giving them more ability to influence the world. The gods hear our prayers, and helps them notice mortal concerns and be aware of what is happening in the world, and they have a somewhat greater ability to respond to prayers than to intervene unprompted. A god's followers will generally share many of the god's interests and priorities, and even without any divine intervention having dedicated followers will thus mean that a god's interests are more represented in the world and more fulfilled in the world. Think, for example, on how Abadar desires more trade and commerce in the world, and His bankers facilitate that by lending money to enable more ventures and by insuring ships and the like. And of course having more followers means that a god has more people aligned with their goals who can act as their priests, or people who they can otherwise act through if they respect mortal priorities the way Iomedae does."
"So by worshipping Iomedae we - care about the things She cares about, and make it more cleanly true of us that She can use us if she needs to, and when we speak to her She hears us? …I feel like that should answer all my questions but it feels like I still have one, somehow.
…do you like Her? Does She feel like an - angry disapproving person with the authority of a parent even though you are a grownup -" What a stupid question.
"Huh." She feels like she is rotating ideas in her mind, trying to get them to fit into place. "Does She get mad - no, She wouldn't, that'd be stupid - does She relate to us all as very stupid toddlers -" Aroden didn't, Aroden related to everybody as prospective gods. Made everyone into prospective gods, so that He could relate to them that way.
"The Goddess does not relate to us like we relate to toddlers. In part this is due to Her limited ability to intervene - even if She would otherwise relate to us like that, I imagine you would relate very differently to a young child in your care if you could watch them but only speak to them once a year - but in general She does not relate to us the same way that we relate to other mortals at all. In a sense, She is lacking certain capacities that you and I have. She chose on ascending to give up the ability to be frustrated with, or angry at, or disappointed in mortals the way we might feel frustrated or angry or disappointed towards each other. She cares for us, but not the way we care for each other, we think. She grieves for us, but not the way we grieve. It's not very useful to try to explain the way She relates to mortals with analogies to the way we relate to each other."
"Thank you."
Iomedae doesn't, she thinks, have theological reasons she doesn't trust the goddess Iomedae. She just has her foster-child personal issues around authority and she has the fact that the goddess Iomedae is a substitute for Aroden, who she loved and trusted and who is dead. There's no theology which will make that stop hurting.
And it really is good enough reason to plan on doing what she is told until the wars are won and the world's problems not best solved by winning them.
Iomedae is indeed assigned, as spring approaches, to running radio broadcasts once the war begins, daily rather than weekly. It's good for morale, and for recruitment, and as they conquer bits of Isger and Cheliax it'll be good for giving out instructions in conquered territory; they have spare radios and can sell them in towns they pass through. Someone on the weapons project's staff gets a permanent Telepathic Bond with someone in Cansellarion's staff, through which information for broadcast will be reported along with information relevant to weapons supply and manufacture, though they're almost always going to be broadcasting news on a delay of a week or so.
Iomedae has read precisely one book about World War II but it gave her some ideas. "I think sometimes on Earth they'd read notes from a soldier's family, on his birthday, can we do that or is it too strongly suggestive I'm in Lastwall? Also news like a baby born at home. Does it cost Iomedae if we do interviews with dead soldiers called from Heaven? …and if so can we also call dead Chelish soldiers from Hell and have fairly awful interviews with them?"
"It costs Heaven a little - not very much, though. It's probably worth it, except that it'll be a couple weeks at least before any soldiers from this campaign are in Heaven. We'll call some when they are, though. I am not sure it would be good for morale to broadcast to our troops reminders of what it means that all the soldiers they are killing are damned, though."
Iomedae nods seriously. She can't really imagine forgetting, but she can imagine not wanting to think about it in very much detail. "I can't think of anything else I need from you." She had wanted to send them off with chocolate, that being the other thing she remembers about World War II, but it's not really a defensible research priority.
Cansellarion moves first. The weather is unseasonably perfect for it, which isn't how he'd use his very limited access to seventh-circle cleric magic but is probably the work of a sympathetic priest. Iomedae finds herself full of nervous energy; she skips sleep less because she's scared of nightmares and more because it's hard to spend her time not helping.
They first acknowledge the war on the air three days after the surrender of Citadel Dinyar.
"This is Freedom Radio, with some exciting news. The liberation of the last five archduchies of Cheliax has begun! We're going to be switching for a weekly schedule to a daily schedule from now until the end of the war, to bring you the news about the fight for Chelish liberation. Abby, if you're disappointed that means Mysteries of the Pharaoh's Tombs won't run until the eleventh hour on Oathdays, you can always just surrender, and we'll return to our normal programming right away!
I don't think we can expect Abby's surrender, and that means that this war is going to last a long time, and it's going to be awful - for the people fighting to free Cheliax, for the people living in Cheliax who don't know when it's safe to join the cause of freedom, for anyone who makes the mistake of being in the room with Abby when she gets bad news, which I expect is going to be nearly every single day.
One of our priorities is making sure you know what you need to know to keep yourselves safe and your families safe. Where we've achieved great victories, where the remains of the Chelish army are rumored to have run to, and what to expect. But we're also going to tell you that there is, in fact, more to be done here than cowering in your homes. -I'll speak to that more in a bit.
First, I have joined the Glorious Reclamation in its fight to liberate Cheliax. I joined them a few months back, actually. The Glorious Reclamation is led by the Lord Marshal Alexeara Cansellarion, a paladin of Iomedae. His family is from Nirmathas, from what was once the Chelish Archduchy of Tamran, which like most of the archduchies of Cheliax declared it would have no part in Asmodean rule. In Nirmathas the forces of the Glorious Reclamation have assembled, and it's there you should go if you want to help, to join the army that will make our people free.
Some of you may be wondering what it means for the radio show that I have joined the Glorious Reclamation. It does not change that I will never lie to you. My oaths do not permit it; were I so ordered I would disobey, and no one including Iomedae Herself has the authority to give me such an order. It does mean that I will learn some things and keep them secret. If the army has planned an overnight march to surround and capture a Chelish city, for example, I won't betray it by telling you that on the radio. I'll say nothing at all, instead, until the operation has concluded. I will typically report events here some time after they happened, both to protect our soldiers and because it takes time for me to learn things and verify them. I joined this war effort because I believe it will triumph, but only an idiot imagines that every single battle will be a triumph, and only a fool would believe what I had to tell you if I told you only good news, so I'll tell you the enemy's successes, too, if they manage to have any.
The Glorious Reclamation began our campaign at Citadel Dinyar, in Isger. I'm going to talk through the geography of Cheliax, quickly, for those of you who haven't seen a map. Isger was once part of the empire; a week ago it was a Chelish possession, but a lightly defended one. We're taking it back. Now, Citadel Dinyar guards the pass between Isger and northeastern Cheliax. It's built high into the Aspodel Mountains, well positioned to ride out and strike at Cheliax or at Isger. Our news reports from two days ago tell us that the walls have been breached and there's now intense fighting for Citadel Dinyar." Her news reports from today tell her that the citadel has surrendered, but she'll break that in tomorrow's news. It's good to let people form their expectations about what's going to happen instead of having it all dumped on them at once. "Why should the Glorious Reclamation start at Citadel Dinyar? The geography is one obvious reason; it's a poorly-defended border, on a river, giving our forces a clear shot straight to the false capital Egorian and past it to the true capital in Westcrown. If Cheliax decides to pull its forces off the border with Andoran to try to stop the Glorious Reclamation - well, they can try it. It's been a whole three months since Andoren freedom fighters last carried out successful operations inside Cheliax's borders. Maybe Abby is hoping they can't do it again. I am sure she's hoping Andoran won't join the war - but personally, I'm betting they almost certainly will. The free Chelish territories know the difference between Hell's rule and freedom better than anyone.
In fact, I talked with some experts on the military situation in the Inner Sea, and what they told me was this: Cheliax knew that a war was coming this spring, because they practically started it in the fall, with the effort to kidnap people by Wish. They spent the winter building up their forces on the border with Andoran, and Andoran did the same. Now, both sides have fortresses entrenched in the mountains that stand between the countries, prepared for an invasion. Now, half of Cheliax's forces are tied up there. If they move, Andoran will take them. if they stay, the country will fall behind their backs. Andoran hasn't declared war, yet, but even Abrogail Thrune isn't stupid enough to think she can turn her back.
Anyway, that's one reason to start at Citadel Dinyar. There is another. Iomedae herself, in the Shining Crusade, wielded a sword of great power, which in the hands of a paladin becomes even more powerful than that, an incomprehensibly strong force for Good. Not only is it deadlier and more dangerous than almost any sword known, it can combat any magic, and protects its wielder, and can bring sunlight in darkness and terrible realization to its enemies. …after the Crusade, Iomedae fulfilling an old oath of hers gave it to the Archduke of Menador, and his line treasured it for a long time, until the Chelish Civil War, when it went missing. It turned up in Citadel Dinyar, and the Glorious Reclamation means to wield it as we return to free the last five archduchies of our homeland. Iomedae is with us. Iomedae is with us more than She has been with any war effort since Her own crusade. Iomedae is, Herself, from Cheliax, and wants to see it free, and will see it free.
You may also have heard rumors that the forces of the Glorious Reclamation wield weapons like none ever seen before on the face of Golarion. That is true. I have tested and fired those weapons myself. They are extraordinarily powerful and extraordinarily dangerous. I don't really expect you to believe me about this, even with my oath, even with all kinds of fancy priests telling you I've never lied. I think you'll believe this one when you hear how the battles are going. I will tell you that on the walls of Citadel Dinyar, men started falling when the invaders were a mile away.
I said earlier that there is more for the people of Cheliax to do, if they wish to be free, than cower in their homes. You may be called upon to fight, and if you are, my recommendation is just to proceed as slowly as you possibly can, so that the war is over before you have to die in it. Lose your armor, lose your supplies, get confused and wander off in the wrong direction. Asmodeus is strangling your country. He is not owed your service. It may not be safe for you to openly defy Him, but I promise, it's not safe to serve Him either. Do a bad job of it. Delay as much as you can in arriving where you are ordered, and we may well have triumphed before you do.
I also want to give instructions on how to kill a first circle cleric of Asmodeus with four of your friends. Just, you know, in case anyone finds themselves in the situation where your village would be safer if someone knew how this was done. Such a priest has few spells, and they are not well suited for defending them. Their most dangerous ability is the ability to channel negative energy, which will cause injury to anyone within six paces. Outside that range there is very little they can do, except cause you to feel afraid and believe yourself doomed. Use a hunting bow and ambush them. A first circle priest is scarcely harder to kill than an ordinary man. Alternatively, catch them sleeping; a priest needs a holy symbol to channel or to spellcast, and without one is approximately powerless. It is a dangerous thing, and I would not do it without allies, but with allies I think it is often less dangerous than not doing it. We'll send your village a real priest, of a Good god, who can heal your loved ones with their channel, as soon as it's feasible.
I want to conclude, today, by leading a prayer for our troops, and thanking them, for the dangers they have undertaken to make our country and our world free of Hell. We'll win, but it's not going to be a quick war, or an easy one. But our soldiers are brave, and they know that House Thrune cannot stand, and they are willing to risk everything to be the ones to make it happen. Iomedae, be with the people of your homeland, as they fight for freedom! Guide us, strengthen us, deliver us from evil. Your will be done, in this world as it is in Heaven, and make us the instruments of the doing."
"Two Miracles," Lilia says to Myrabelle. "For a permanent Gate to Hell through which its forces can come to our defense. …I really wasn't expecting that." Admittedly the first engagements of the war have been terrifying. Lastwall does seem to have secretly built guns that actually function reliably and beat longbows for range, accuracy, and damage. Thousands of them. She wouldn't have imagined them capable of it.
Somewhat surprising. It might be that Abrogail is panicking, spending down resources she'll need later to try to fix the problem now. Unlikely, though. Miracles go through Aspexia, who is diligent enough to check what her master can afford to spend... so most likely Cheliax can afford more than she thought.
"How many diamonds do they have left, after that, in your best estimate?"
"He is, yes. If it goes poorly, well, once there's a Gate through which the forces of Hell come to our defense it's not that costly to send another pit fiend." She would really have expected 'a permanent Gate through which the forces of Hell come to our defense' to be, itself, too costly, but she never really understood the rules the gods played their little game with the world by.
A solid wall of hellfire meets the Glorious Reclamation at the pass through the place where the Menador and Aspodel Mountains meet.
Gorthoklek's devils can pass through it, and plan A is for them to quickly overwhelm the invaders with more devils than anyone would have dreamed they could bring to the material and retake Dinyar and Isger. But Abrogail isn't actually an idiot and she notices that 'win in the field against unfamiliar weapons' isn't a plan you want to count on, and so the wall of Hellfire is insurance. The devils can travel through it freely; the invaders won't be able to. And it means that she doesn't need the army at the pass, either way; even if Cansellarion's put together an army that can stand up to hundreds of powerful devils summoning thousands of lesser ones, it won't get him onto Chelish soil. They can continue to keep their forces concentrated on the border with Andoran, where they plan to attack as soon as they have determined the capabilities of Good's new guns and the best counters to them.
When the army has approached the hellfire and doesn't appear to be approaching any closer, the devils fly through it. You think you can kill a pit fiend? Fine. Lots of people think they can kill a pit fiend. Try two dozen of them, and immolation devils, and handmaiden devils, and belier devils, all of them surrounded by the lesser devil cohorts they're empowered to summon.
They don't have that many machine guns, and they haven't yet figured out how to directly enchant them with special qualities, so they are in the hands of powerful paladins with a weapon bond, and in one case a powerful inquisitor with a weapon bond. They are firing silver-electroplated bullets. They are blessed by the good gods. They are enhanced with greater magic weapon.
Cheliax seized a couple of guns in raids in the course of the Glorious Reclamation's quick march across Isger. They're not impossible to make sense of, though they look like they must have taken decades of work to develop and perfect and train people to mass-produce. If they seize a storehouse for the ammunition, they can maybe turn the guns back on their creators at scale; otherwise it'll have to be the occasional shot, to distract or confuse them. They have a sense of what the guns can do; of their range, of how much skill it takes to reload them and fire them.
They did not seize any of the machine guns.
They know that the Glorious Reclamation can be very very deadly at range, and that they'll draw fire as soon as they emerge from the hellfire. (They do it anyway, with the summons to distract their enemies and spend down their expensive-looking ammunition and be easily replaced.)
They do not in fact know what guns do at close range until some devils Teleport in to try it.
...most of the forces of Hell, though decidedly not all of them, escape back into the wall of hellfire within two moments.
- That is a Dominate Monster. That is a powerful Dominate monster; Gorthoklek has a good many ways to resist mortal magic, and still barely rips free of it. They didn't think Iomedae's forces here had an archmage supporting. He immediately calls out for the appropriate protective spells to be placed -
Protection from Good won't save him. Neither will Protection from Evil, for that matter, but she doesn't want to get into an extended fight with a couple dozen pit fiends in a curtain of hellfire after losing the element of surprise. A curse on him, then, the kind that won't go away without destroying him and can't be easily removed, and a mutual retreat. She'll try again if he ever shows his face again. He probably won't risk it.
Lilia is very tired. "If it wasn't Morgethai - I think there's a substantial difference between having her ideologically opposed and having her personally mad and openly involved. And I am not sure it was Morgethai; we don't know her to be any good at enchantments."
"I have no more plausible candidate. And whether or not it was her I'd favor a strike on Almas that could actually kill her, just not one that'll irritate her. ...She may also have sold the Reclamation a scroll of it, at some point, and regard herself as uninvolved.
Also, Clepati may do normal things sometimes, and just successfully conceal them…it does seem unlikely Clepati would try this and fail."
"- there's something we're missing," says Abrogail, who for her many, many, many faults isn't actually an idiot except when she's angry. "We thought the Iomedaens couldn't do this, and they did. We thought they didn't have an archmage, and now one is casting for them. We thought the little bitch on the radio was Andoren, she's theirs. There is a single underlying explanation for the archmage and the guns and the radios. The obvious one is that there is a secret archmage who developed nonmagical weapons and - constructs, probably, that produce them -"
It is the obvious conclusion. Lilia hadn't ventured it but it is quite likely what she would believe if she didn't have a different guess. "I think it's a plausible explanation, your Majesty. And would imply this isn't Morgethai, and that we might be well-advised to keep the peace with Andoran, while it lasts, which probably won't be all that long but we'll have had more time to reproduce these weapons by the time it fails."
Cheliax draws down its Worldwound forces to the treaty minimums and has a lot of invisible flying wizards Fireball the forces of the Glorious Reclamation. In the daytime this doesn't go well, because inquisitors can See Invisibility and fire one of the specially-made sniper rifles; at night it's much more of a problem. `
It's not a new tactic, and the Reclamation has all the old responses ready. They camp without night fires, and cover or darken any metal that might catch the moonlight, so the enemy wizards have to come in closer to identify a target; they have their own wizards on night patrol, hoping to catch the attackers in a glitterdust aimed at the fireballs' origins. The only change is that when they succeed it's riflemen trying to shoot the attackers down rather than archers, with predictable improvements to hit rate and lethality. Some of the Chelish manage to both land their fireballs and escape, but even with Cheliax' greater numbers the Reclamation is optimistic about a favorable attrition rate.
Freedom finds military tactics fascinating. For the most part the people who can sit down and explain them to her - the plays, the counterplays, what kinds of advantages are durable and what kinds are altered by guns - are very busy but wherever they are not she'll sit down and talk to them for hours. The non-secret bits she explains on the radio, soberly, including where she's discussing ways that Thrune-loyal forces have an advantage. "We're winning, of course, but there's no point pretending that everything's going our way; no one's going to believe that. If you claim that the war will be won without horrible losses, then when there are horrible losses people might go 'why am I fighting in this war'? So you have to be straightforward. Many people are going to die. We're going to win, though.
Why do you suppose Cheliax has more people at the Worldwound usually? Because if you have too few, they spend too much time in the field, and they're tired and not combat effective, and they die more. The usual numbers are the numbers that are best for Cheliax in the long run, and now they're eating their seed corn. The forces of Hell have arrived to their aid, and realized they can't meet us in the field because our weapons are too dangerous.
And I'm sure at this point a lot of you are wondering, can't Cheliax steal these weapons? They've tried! But what makes them powerful is that we have ten thousand of them, and the ammunition for them, and by now House Thrune has discovered it can't make them or make ammunition for them. You might think that they can learn how, since people did learn how in the first place, but remember that only slaves, desperate people, and stupid people work for House Thrune, and many of the slaves are now contemplating escape. Invention is the business of free people, defending free countries. Cheliax will be a place of invention once again as soon as it's free."
There's still a wall of hellfire blocking the pass. It must have been an elaborate and expensive miracle, as it does not fade.
There are half a dozen gods who would remove the hellfire as a miracle of their own. The glorious reclamation does not want to try to match Cheliax miracle for miracle, diamond for diamond, even when they can get the miracles from other gods. Cansellarion will look for another way around.
(Catherine could offer such a way, if she was willing to tip her hand to her allies and show a bit more of it to her enemies. She's not at that point, yet. She conjures up seasonal thunderstorms and unseasonable blizzards to bottle up the Chelish fleets in their harbors.)
There's not really a good way to march around the wall of Hellfire but that doesn't mean it can't be bypassed. Can Morgethai and Clepati do a teleportation circle for them in the morning? Can he count on occasional teleportation circles for supply, or should he plan as if he doesn't have access to those?
"That depends on Nefreti," Morgethai says flatly. She's not delighted about doing a Teleportation Circle - she only has one non-transmutation ninth circle spell a day, and Teleportation Circles are openly advertising that she doesn't have, for instance, a Disjunction - but she's had a few month's warning that the war was coming and wrote a lot of scrolls and Cheliax won't find her wildly more unprepared on a day with a Teleportation Circle than they'd find her any other day.
Cansellarion returns to his troops and they spend the rest of the day retreating from the wall of Hellfire. He makes for the passes into Andoran; maybe Cheliax will imagine that, thwarted, he's taking the long way around and letting them consolidate their forces in the east.
Lilia doesn't particularly imagine this is the case. If Andoran too had been training its people on guns over the winter, and was ready to bet everything on this, they'd have joined the initial invasion; since they didn't, they're training their people now and/or waiting for a definitive sign the war has broken in their favor before they swoop in. She tells Abrogail that her bet is it's a ruse, and he's planning on a Miracle or a Teleportation Circle overnight.
"Yes, your Majesty." Lilia is genuinely unsure if Abrogail's confidence this can be achieved is because negotiations with Razmir went well or because negotiations with Arazni went well or because Abrogail is a blithering idiot. She's being kept out of the loop, on all of those. Abrogail isn't a trusting person, and Lilia has a lot of credibility to spend but Myrabelle has, on net, been distinctly spending it these last few months. There is no question in Lilia's mind that Myrabelle will, ultimately, gamble with Lilia until she loses, and that they're coming close now to losing.
When dawn reaches Isger and slightly before it reaches Menador Nefreti does her end of a Teleportation Circle, six miles north of Kantaria, on the west side of the river. The battle would go a little better if she did seven miles but explaining things like this to Cansellarion is exhausting.
Menador's army is camped outside the city, not yet fully mustered to march east and join up with the main concentration of Chelish troops. A boat traveling downriver caught sight of the invaders, and Menador's men had enough warning to form squares and prepare for battle, if not quite enough warning to think to do something else.
Once observers have confirmed that, yes, Cansellarion seems to have teleported his entire army into central Mendaor, and yes, he's fighting Chelish armies on Chelish soil, and yes, he seems to be winning - once those things are established, the leadership of Rahadoum is convinced enough that this is the best opportunity they will get and the fighting around the southern end of the Arch of Aroden starts in earnest.
"This is Freedom Radio, and a lot of new developments here for you since yesterday's broadcast. The first and most important is that, three days ago at dawn, the Glorious Reclamation teleported their whole army to outside Kantaria, where they engaged and very easily defeated the army of the archduke of Menador.
Now, you're probably thinking 'it's possible to Teleport whole armies? I didn't even know that could be done!' because that's what I was thinking when I first heard the news. Normal wizards can only take a few people with them in a Teleport. My experts on magic tell me that Teleportation Circle takes a bit of ground and magically links it to another bit of ground, and then for the next several hours, anyone stepping on the one bit of ground arrives on the other. You can use it to move tens of thousands of people, and wagons, and horses, and so on – and that appears to be precisely what the Glorious Reclamation did.
Now, this is a tremendously useful spell, right? Why doesn't everyone do it? It is also one of the hardest-to-cast spells known to all of magic. That's because it requires two archmages capable of casting ninth circle spells, acting in perfect synchronization across the distance to cast the spell together. And it's not often that Avistan has two archmages who want to work together. For a cause like breaking Asmodeus's grip on Cheliax, though, we managed to see it done. This leaves House Thrune's last move, trying to curtain the country in hellfire, looking more than slightly stupid. First off, it's a stark reminder that that is their vision for Cheliax: a country too weak to defend itself against the rest of the world, blockaded by a wall of hellfire that keeps its own people in and civilization out, like Nidal.
And second off, hey, we just went around it. Abby, I really think you should see if you can get your infernal masters to use one of the diamonds on your wisdom. You can try convincing them that you'd use their resources less stupidly if you were wiser, maybe then they'll let you do it.
But that's not all of the big news I have for you since yesterday's broadcast. Listeners in Rahadoum have been telling me that Rahadoum has now struck out to retake its northernmost territories from Cheliax. Under ordinary circumstances, Cheliax would probably be able to beat back the Rahadoumi - but right now, they can't afford to send any help south, and I'm not even sure they can afford for the navy and the forces stationed around Corentyn to be tied up dealing with this. Cheliax cries out for freedom from every corner, and now we can each hear all of the others, and know that we aren't alone, and know that soon we will all be free together."
Razmir was initially reluctant to help. He likes the radio. Thassilon had mass communications.
They don't know what exactly Asmodeus offered him, but he's on board now.
Abrogail's initial proposal is just that they try the Wishnapping again, at an unpredictable hour, with repeated tries if necessary. Morgethai is the most important target, and they probably won't get her, and they probably won't get Cansellarion either, but if they get enough other essential people Morgethai may attempt an ill-advised rescue, or at least burn diamonds in the back-and-forth. Abrogail can win a confrontation that comes down to who has more diamonds.
"Might work, might be worth trying," says Lilia. "Alternatively, can we get him to pick a fight with Lastwall? We know they're behind this, and they may not know we know that, and you weren't wrong to propose that it'd solve some of our problems if we burn them to the ground. And he's nearer to them than we are, and can't really imagine that if they're getting bold they won't go after him eventually."
She doesn't elaborate. Lilia doesn't ask. "I think," Lilia says instead, "the best way to avoid having a war on three fronts in another two weeks is to destroy Azir and Vellumis and Vigil, if one can, and Razmir has presumably thought about how to do it." He has burned cities to the ground with less provocation, really, though burning Vigil wouldn't really work.
"It can't be done, your Majesty. I had forty people in Isarn for that, a dozen in the city government; in Vigil at great expense we have four, none of any rank to speak of. And the preparations take too long for it to be impactful in the war. And I bet Iomedae just intervenes directly, though everywhere we can force Iomedae to intervene directly that isn't here is a good thing…."
Well that's not good. It's not terribly surprising that some of Tar-Baphon's remaining servants would take advantage of Lastwall's distraction. Cansellarion's busy, the worldwound is already stretched kind of thin right now and they probably shouldn't pull anyone off Crusader's Fort if they can afford it - they are actually somewhat short of high-level adventurers of their own right now.
What they're not particularly short of, courtesy of two young women and the church of Abadar, is money, which means they can hire mercenaries to back up some mid-level paladins. He'll also teleport to Absalom himself and see if he can can call in a favor and get support from Ahnkamen given her god's interests and the reasons behind the Iomedae's Church's shorthandedness.
She agrees to go, and comes back two days later, mildly battered and blazingly angry. It must have been quite a weekend; more than half the group is dead and two of the mid-level paladins have third circle spells now.
"As you expected there were some servants of the Tyrant trying to break the seal. But - this didn't start in Gallowspire. I know of some divinations broken since prophecy broke, not for divining the future but for divining the past, and I know of some recent work to get them working again, as prophecy really ought not to have been broken backwards; by the time we got there it was nearly too late, but I was able to closely examine the original disturbance.
Someone's interfering with the Great Seal through one of the lesser ones."
"Yes. In principle it shouldn't be possible to destroy through one of the lesser seals. But - temporarily introducing a vulnerability - I don't know. You might be able to get a spell off through it, somehow. The Whispering Way committed to this like they expected it to work. Does Egorian claim to be in secure possession of theirs?"
Half a dozen oddities, now coming together in her mind. The mystery of why Aspexia’s being so free with diamonds and miracles. The mystery of what Razmir was offered for his help. The mystery of how Isarn got to the point of nearly succeeding, if she hadn’t intervened.
Asmodeus is willing to expend unfathomable sums, to hold his country. Greater than we imagined.
The good thing is that the forces of Good are less inept than Lilia thought.
“That’s a good argument for succeeding at it, your majesty,” she says. “But not much of one for failing at it. Lastwall’s claiming to everyone who’ll listen - and they’re paladins, everyone believes them - in a day or two it’ll be on the radio - turning over northern Avistan to Tar-Baphon is not something to do halfheartedly - I would that I had known, so it could've either succeeded or not been noticed."
Lilia doesn’t resist. It wouldn't work; in that, at least, Abrogail's not an idiot. And this is a tantrum, not sure proof; even odds Abrogail will calm down in a few hours and Lilia will recover and they’ll never speak of it again, even odds Abrogail will have her horribly tortured to death. She’s pretty sure that whatever Myrabelle’s magic warped in her, to make her loyal, also makes her care about that much less than a person reasonably ought to, but she doesn’t actually wish she was a snivelling idiot about it either.
Cheliax, obviously, denies having done anything to release Tar-Baphon, and notes that he hasn’t been released, and that the only thing that happened was that some preexisting enemies of Cheliax conducted an analysis of a phenomenon no one else has observed at all and surfaced with this wild allegation.
If either of them observed Cheliax to do something, that’d be one thing. But they observed some kind of mysterious phenomenon, and then Lastwall accused Cheliax of it. Lastwall has, in any event, been secretly conspiring to prolong the Chelish Civil War practically since it started. Cansellarion’s theirs. The girl styling herself ‘Freedom’ does her intrepid reporting from… Castle Overwatch in Vigil. They’re making the guns that are being fired in Cheliax. And now they’re making up rationalizations. No one in Cheliax had anything to do with the mysterious disturbance, whatever it was. Their seal remains secure despite Lastwall’s ongoing efforts to overthrow their government.
Though they have removed their head of intelligence for failing to detect the interference sooner.
Cheliax is fighting for its existence and still finding the time for court intrigues? Well. Lastwall isn't going to wish them good luck with that, because that would be dishonest. The government of Lastwall sincerely hopes that that blows up in their faces.
As for recent events, it might just be a matter of Cheliax’ word against Lastwall’s whether Cheliax did in fact tamper with Tar-Baphon’s seals. In that case it’ll have to come down to who’s more trustworthy in the eyes of the world.
“Would even Abrogail Thrune dare to try to unleash the greatest horror in the history of Avistan just to distract one of her many, many enemies? Is it possible someone in Cheliax did it without her knowledge, and if so, what does that say about the state of her regime? Considering how much everyone in Cheliax lies all the time, wouldn’t you think they’d be better at it by now? For these questions and more, I wanted to turn to an expert on House Thrune’s baffling internal workings – but right now, regrettably, many of those are busy on the front lines. I do have the Grand Councilwoman and Envoy for the Dead Anhkamen, the world's only ninth circle priest of Pharasma, who witnessed the disruption firsthand. Thanks for joining us, Grand Councilwoman.”
“Gallowspire is dangerous to approach and dangerous to operate in. The ancient crusaders posted eternal guards over Tar-Baphon’s tomb, but over time the accursed land has destroyed or warped them. Demiliches float through the rubble; shadows block out the light, which is in any event dim. Creatures born of despair and ruin, to despair and ruin, die in despair and ruin. Gallowspire should not be.”
“The Great Seal of Gallowspire was laid by the greatest hands that remained in Avistan when the dust had settled on Tar-Baphon’s trapped body and soul. It was a working unlike any other, that would bind the lich where he lay whatever power was exerted against it. To lend their strength to the great seal, three lesser seals were forged, and distributed among the nations that had led the Crusade to its great victory. One to Taldor, one to the dwarves of Kraggadon, and one to Lastwall, the new-founded crusader state, with its mission to watch over Tar-Baphon’s tomb in perpetuity. Only if all three seals are destroyed could the Great Seal be broken, or so our ancestors believed.”
“Only a god can say, and only a fool pretends not to know. The dwarves of Kraggadon have always done their sacred duty, guarded their seal day and night, deep below ground and far from the influence of Avistan’s troubles and terrors. The people of Lastwall have stood their watch nine hundred years, and observed the trouble through close observance of their own seal. And the third seal is kept in Westcrown, in Cheliax, ruled by Hell and presently at war."
She pauses. "Cheliax would have to be very foolish to imagine that Tar-Baphon’s release would serve them long.”
Kalves is out doing the planting. It's rained and the mud has soaked through his boots, leaving his toes with a squishy sensation which is currently pleasant but which will by nightfall have him badly blistered. He's working anyway, where the fields have good enough drainage to allow it, because if you don't work everyone starves.
Around midday a demon steals over him with great suddenness; it tells him coldly, in his mind, to slip away from the field at the first opportunity no one will notice, and then to start running, and he is powerless to disobey; while he flails helplessly against his limbs they move him away from the fields, and into the woods, where he assumes they will lead him to die. He pleads with the demon that he has a wife and children, that he is a good man; he calls on Erastil, and on Iomedae, and on his ancestors in Heaven who are now angels and should defend him. At first he prays for them to save him. Then he prays to die quickly and not become some kind of demon thing. His legs move under an alien power, through the woods and up the hill and to the castle, and all his desperate effort and all his prayers are useless.
He reaches the castle.
"I'd like to set up a meeting with Cansellarion," the demon says through his mouth.
Fucking paladins.
The last few days of Lilia’s life were very unpleasant, and she is very aware that a person like Lilia but less loyal to her mother would have spent the last day screaming at her mother for getting her into the situation, and then retired to a beach somewhere in Tian Xia. This would be stupid and contemptible of them, of course. Yelling at her mother would not improve anything, and Lilia will at this point only have safety when Hell’s grip on Cheliax is broken and may as well try to see that done as soon as possible.
She still feels a twist of misery in the pit of her stomach when the next steps become clear, because they will involve being helpless again, and she is very tired of that.
She releases the Dominate. She goes to Cansellarion's fortress. She surrenders to his paladins. She does not give her name. These people are presumably supposed to be competent to keep a secret like that, but that doesn't mean much, and in any event she expects that even with paladins one is safer if the people taking one prisoner don't know that they hate you, that they'll be more polite and more respectful as they search you thoroughly for magic items and magical contingencies and bind your hands and feet with reinforced steel and cast divinations (this woman is Lawful Evil, and powerful), and consult with people somewhere else.
The steel is surprisingly upsetting - no, not surprisingly. The last time this happened to her she did not survive it.
(If that happens this time Myrabelle will save her. Probably.)
They ask her permission for a Teleport, and then take her to a windowless room in a Mage’s Private Sanctum. There are comfortable chairs. Cheliax would have her kneeling on the floor. She prefers Cheliax’s way.
She looks like her mother, which means there's really only one or two people she could be. He asks anyways.
“Alright, you have my attention,” Cansellarion says, half-expecting her to try to murder him in some horrible way they failed to prepare for. “Who are you, and what can we do for each other?”
She is too Chelish to do much in the way of facial expressions but there's a slight tightening around her eyes that means contempt. "I want to watch House Thrune burn.
- also amnesty, and some assurance that if I someday require a favor worth much less than what I've offered you, you'll try reasonably hard to make it happen." This is a contemptible way to conduct negotiations but she's pretty sure it's how Lawful Good people do it.
"I will not agree to be questioned on how I escaped Hell, or what allies and resources I personally possess outside Cheliax which are not resources known to House Thrune or the Church of Asmodeus, or on any matter of no real military relevance. …and you will ask nothing about my sister. Or my mother." She lets a little accusatory grief into her voice, there, not because she feels any but because it might make him feel bad.
He does not, in fact, feel any guilt about killing Myrabelle, only occasional worries that he did not do a good enough job.
"For your full cooperation with regard to Cheliax and things known to Cheliax, then. For amnesty and a commensurate future favor - Is that really what you want, or is it just that you're trying to negotiate in the manner you imagine I'm most comfortable with?"
- he's being a paladin. He's being a paladin at her. He is worried that she might feel pressured to approach this negotiation in a way she doesn't endorse. Imagine, having your enemies at your fingertips and thinking about that. She knows the rules they follow, but it's another thing entirely to watch what it looks like to have a personality that formed around that mold. Lilia did not in fact expect him to Dominate her and rip out all the answers he wanted without needing any concessions, satisfied in the absolute certainty she'd do it to him. But she expected him to wish he could do that.
"I considered coming in here with a contract for you to have your lawyers waste several weeks frantically poring over. But some of our common interests here are time sensitive, and I don't actually expect I'd get more of what I want. It's a good deal; take it."
"Alright. I guess if you feel cheated later the remedy is obvious... I am going to have someone write something up for you to sign, though. Nothing complicated, just getting what we agreed to here in writing, and some assurances that you have in fact left Cheliax' service, aren't feeding us false information, aren't going to attempt to harm anyone else serving Lastwall or our allies while you're working with us, and the like."
She reads it carefully and thoroughly. She is not, in fact, stupid, and she's not out of her mind. "Fine." She signs. Badly, because they've left her hands bound.
He hasn't, yet, specified what he'll do to check if she's telling the truth. In his place she'd instruct the prisoner to assent to a long variety of curses and then render them unconscious to place the Dominate because most ways to resist it which aren't the obvious one require either successfully resisting it or being conscious to activate your contingency. And then she'd do it three times, and then she'd still only be mostly sure it'd worked. But she knows about some of Myrabelle's tricks, plus some of her own tricks, and so she has more expectation than most people that it's hard to make sure someone's truly in your power. Maybe paladins don't worry too much about that.
He did not even smile when he got confirmation that she was telling him the truth. Truly Iomedae possesses methods of making mortals uncomplicatedly obedient to her will and devoid of all normal human motivations which the forces of Evil can only aspire to.
"I didn't know in advance. Abrogail admitted it once Lastwall made the allegation. She claimed she had Hell's approval, and that they thought Asmodeus could make a deal with Tar-Baphon. I don't know if she intends to try again."
"I thought we had four, at the start of the war, but Aspexia hasn't been spending them that way. They're happy to spend one wherever you might have to match it. There was discussion of trying the kidnapping again, trying it four times back to back to see if that does it. More than six, I think."
"What do they think about our latest moves?" Cansellarion has been marching east, trying to get between the main body of Chelish forces and Egorian. He's still planning to take Westcrown first, but he wants to try to force a battle and defeat the rest of the Chelish army in the field by threatening the capital before going after either city.
"They can't beat you in the field and they know it. Abrogail wants to cut you off from supply by killing Morgethai. Razmir's helping us. The plans for that looked reasonable, to me. If Morgethai thought she was invincible she wouldn't have needed you to invent reliable guns to involve herself. If that works, the army's stranded, and Abrogail can figure out how to answer it. The soonest they'll try is Oathday; Razmir's preparing some things."
"They intend to burn Almas to the ground and force her to show, and if she never does keep going and burn the rest of Andoran down too. - figure they're planning to join the war at the best moment, and if this isn't the best moment for them it might be for us. They'll time it for when she's asleep, but they expect she'll show anyway. Razmir's been preparing the gems to trap her soul, and claims if not interrupted he should have enough Oathday. He also wanted Cheliax to pay him for a bunch of Gates, through which he can have monsters he keeps in his demiplanes flood the city, and a bunch of ritual casting implements so he can have his church make him more powerful for the fight, and for some scrolls of Tsunami and Earthquake and so on - he didn't want to use any live magic for the provocation, doesn’t even intend to be there for it, he wanted to save it all for the actual fight. Lorthact - an exiled duke of Hell who has been teaching abjuration classes in Korvosa - will also be participating. If you showed up to help Andoran they meant to drop some incendiary clouds on the army, but that wasn't a significant component of planning. There'll also probably be simultaneous attacks on Vigil and Vellumis - have an allied dragon eat a bunch of peasants, whatever - but those are purely a distraction and might actually be dropped in favor of burning Azir to the ground now that the Rahadoumi have involved themselves."
Clepati said and then immediately denied that with the help of Alfirin she could defeat Lorthact. She also said she could kill Razmir, though presumably not permanently. He should probably follow up on that, now that Razmir and Lorthact are pressing strategic priorities. After this. For now, he'll ask for more details about what Cheliax is willing to buy from Razmir, what other powerful wizards they have and what their capabilities are, what Lorthact has revealed of his capabilities… and also whether they are planning anything else this big, or if Almas and associated diversions are going to be the bulk of their effort.
They might, especially if Almas doesn't end decisively in their favor, attempt mass kidnappings again. Abrogail really despises the girl on the radio, and while Abrogail is somewhat irrational about this it's hard to dispute that it'll be bad for the invading army's morale if they get to slowly torture her to death on air. There was also discussion of Razmir going after Lastwall directly, since they know that Freedom broadcasts out of Vigil and that they're producing the 'guns'. And there were efforts underway to get Arazni to help but she hadn't heard that those had gotten anywhere (and you'd really expect them not to). Manohar's working on some kind of speculative superweapon which could be dropped on the army, she doesn't know many details but he has some captured guns to work with and is, in fact, much smarter than he's generally credited for.
Alright. In that case he's going to go back to waging his war, and leave Lilia with someone else who can get all the other details she has about Chelish spies and capabilities and deployments and intentions and the like. The truth spell won't last that long but they can get another one and confirm again that she's been honest with them later.
Cansellarion goes to warn Morgethai first, in case there are any preparations she can make in advance if she knows when and where the fight will be. Cheliax is presumably planning to monitor when she goes to sleep with a nightmare and trigger the attack then, but since they know when that's coming - he imagines she can rest with a keep watch spell, prepare her daily spells for combat, and then take a very brief nap to trigger the attack when she's ready.
"It could be, though she answered questions under a truthtelling with any contingencies or enchantment foils she might have had dispelled. And obviously between now and Oathday we'll check what we can check from other sources. If it is a trick… it's an expensive one. Montero was good at her job. And I don't see a way that preparing for an attack here on Oathday leaves us more vulnerable to something else - in any case, I'm planning to talk to Clepati next and it's possible she just…knows… in her way, whether it's a trick."
...
"Okay. Well. If the other Alfirin shows up, the two of you handle Lorthact. Otherwise I guess you handle Razmir and Codwin and Morgethai and I will try to handle Lorthact. And if there's anything else I or Morgethai or anyone else can do that would make second Alfirin more likely to show, please let me know."
"Oh, I don't know if it will help. It could; it depends on things I don't know how to communicate. I just think it would be funny. …if I tell you something that would work better except for the fact that you will react very counterproductively to my telling you it, can you just… not do that? Or are you too foolish?"
The Osirian government is tentatively supportive. They would generally prefer to stay out of the war in Avistan entirely, obviously, but if Cheliax is doing things that endanger the whole planet then it seems appropriate to respond to that, and 'shelter some civilians' is a reasonably practical way to do that which probably doesn't drag them into the war. If it's in Abadar's interests then they expect Abadar will authorize it.
Well, one of the civilians is Lastwall's chief engineer - honestly, most of their engineers, if Osirion will take them - and one is Freedom. Part of the reason he's asking is that Cheliax might try to kidnap them again and the Dome would keep them safe. But it also means they are more likely to be dragged into war for sheltering them than they would be for most civilians.
They notify him a few hours later that they'll take the civilians, in secret, and they'll have to abide by Osirian law while they're here which would preclude the following things from recent episodes of Freedom Radio (a few things that qualify as evangelizing for Chaotic gods, a few instances of advising people in Cheliax to murder their priests and desert their army), and they will guarantee at least a week's notice if kicking them out but are not prepared to guarantee more notice than that.
"I am ordering you to relocate on Wealday to the Dome in Osirion. We have reason to think Cheliax is going to make more attempts to kidnap you and you'll be safer in there. I'm appointing Lieutenant Jeres your commanding officer. He will also be your chaperone, as you are required to have one. Alfirin is welcome and encouraged to join you though she will also need a chaperone. They want a legal guardian, so she may have to sign an agreement to the effect that she will treat Jeres as such for as long as she remains there. You will also need to moderate the content of your broadcasts to comply with Osirian law, Jeres has the details on that. Any questions?"
Wow! Iomedae is really deeply unhappy about this on enough levels that they aren't immediately possible to disentangle in her mind. Some is the censorship. Some is the having a legal guardian, she is done having a legal guardian. Some is how upset Alfirin's going to be.
None of that's a question. Cansellarion's busy liberating Cheliax from Hell. She can evaluate afterwards if he made the tradeoff correctly, and is not anywhere near confident enough he didn't to protest it. "No, sir."
Iomedae was not going into this declaration in a good mood and so she mostly feels…really upset, actually. That was her business to handle as she liked, and doesn't really seem like it ought to be the subject of prophecy. - set that aside. "...someone I'd get along with?" she asks.
"There's a war on and I have no imminent intentions to marry and would need to talk to Alfirin but if it helps it seems like a not very costly way to help? Is the idea that the defector …would get along with us? Would be happy that America has gay marriage? Would consider it proof of - something important about Good?"
...gay marriage? What does that mean? Marriage between two women? How is that possible - none of this matters.
"I don't know. Clepati did not elaborate on how this helps, just that it might help - with something secret that doesn't bear any obvious relation to the Chelish defector, nor directly to you and Alfirin. She also said that even if it didn't work she'd think it was funny… I understand if you don't want to do this. It's really not a reasonable request to make of an ally."
"I'd very much like to talk to Chelish defectors, it'll help me improve the messaging, and I'd like to think I'm a good influence on them, and so I'm at least intrigued. I…wanted to have more control over what people thought of Alfirin and I, and I think Alfirin's going to be very upset about my orders and I don't want to make that worse. By when do you need to know."
"I have an hour," says Iomedae. "- so we can ration which parts we spend how much time being upset about. First, Cheliax is probably going to attempt to kidnap me some more so I am being relocated to the Dome in Osirion, as of Wealday, and you are invited to come too, but you're going to hate it."
"I honestly don't know - I mean, of course I want you with me, I always want that, and I want you safe and I don't know if Cheliax knows enough by now to try to grab you too but they might. But I - can't ask this of you, you've just got to figure out what you want to do - apparently in Osirion we need a chaperone who is our legal guardian."
"That's what's so upsetting! It's not upsetting to decide to get married, that would probably be excellent, but it's upsetting to have it prophesied when we haven't decided! That's our decision!! Prophecy being broken seems to mostly make everything worse but if it were to make anything at all better you'd think it'd be this!!"
"I know! It's -" She hugs Iomedae, "...I promise I'm not going to refuse to marry you out of spite but I'm noticing that I have the impulse. I don't want to invite random Chelish defectors to our hypothetical wedding just because some mad priest said to. But. I'm not gonna veto it if you think the secret thing is important enough."
Hughughug. "I don't know what the secret thing is except that I've never seen Cansellarion so - something. I figured I'd talk with the defector and see if once I spoke to them it made sense how it would help. I don't know. If it's something like 'once they heard about what America is like they'd want to make Cheliax like it' and the wedding is mostly metonymy, that'd be fine. And it might be mostly metonymy, she's a mad priest. But I don't mean to do it unless it actually seems like a good idea for reasons that aren't 'a mad priest said so', and with the qualification that we don't know if we intend to marry, and I'm fine with not doing that either, just out of spite, if you want, because it's really an extraordinarily unreasonable thing to ask. And while spitefully not marrying people because someone said you were going to is manipulable by our enemies, spitefully not inviting people you weren't going to invite anyway isn't."
"We can. I love you. I'm sorry that this apparently causes your love life to get mad priest attention. …if I'm willing to talk to the defector I leave with Cansellarion in an hour and I didn't ask if I'll be back before Wealday when I'm reassigned to Osirion. Probably I will be because I have to hand off a lot of work tasks. But if we want to talk about that we might want to do it now.""
"I guess. We'll see if he's fast enough." Alfirin can ask her secretary to get her the answers to those questions, clarify mortifyingly that 'gays' means 'people who habitually engage in homosexual acts,' and then return to Iomedae. "I think as long as I'm free to leave I want to go with you. And if I'm not - that's a lot scarier but I'll also be a lot more scared for you, waiting out here -"
Squeeze. "You'll hear me on the radio. And I can listen to a frequency we set in advance, if you want to talk to me and probably not have the whole world hear. We don't have time to develop a proper code but I think Tongues won't be very helpful if we communicate entirely in Earth literary references."
Alfirin's secretary gets back to them before the hour is up with some fairly basic facts about Osirion. They need chaperones because they are unmarried women, who do not have independent legal standing in Osirion. Their legal guardian is responsible for interfacing with the Osirian government for them, is accountable to the Osirian government if they behave badly, and has…this was not clear on limited research but probably more power than a commanding officer in Lastwall has, because Osirion like all of the unfortunate countries in the world that aren't Lastwall doesn't have a well-developed body of law around illegal orders. Lieutenant Jeres is of course still subject to Lastwall's rules whatever country he's in.
It's kind of unclear if a person can leave Osirion as a matter of law over the objections of their legal guardian? Probably not? Alfirin could of course ask Jeres for assurance he'd let her leave, and Osirion won't otherwise attempt to keep her.
Lilia has been meticulously selling out all of Cheliax's agents everywhere else. They don't have many in Lastwall but they have enough, accomplishing enough, that she got a few suppressed distress-reactions out of the paladin interrogating her. When the door opens again she is not surprised to see Cansellarion and quite surprised to see him followed by -
"I'm not particularly interested in appearing on the radio," she says.
"...the big one you're missing is that they are evil. They're bad people. They want to keep slaves. They want to be feared. They want to see people flinch when they enter the room. They want to see annoying preachy paladin children suffer. They see you extending them kindness that'd never be reciprocated and they see a - merchant who can be talked into selling at any price by any sob story because he's stupid. And setting their character aside - they want to pick the winning side. The most compelling argument you can make to them is that money, and power, and respect, and safety, are on your side, and that the government can no longer offer those things. People will not rebel out of the goodness of their hearts, but they can track a shifting tide."
"Sure, some people do. Those ones I imagine you've got already. The ones you don't have, and could get, are the ones who want to hear that there's power and advancement and opportunity on your side. That their past is an asset, that they're clever for getting out now."
"Everyone listens to the show. Even at its worst it's a less predictable sermon than you'll get in any church, and sometimes it's better than that. - is it, at this point, really necessary that I be shackled," she says to the guard, with the smooth professional impatience that at least in Cheliax sometimes causes people to do what you said instead of go check with their superiors.
So she takes part in strategic decisions, too, instead of just being the voice on the radio. Lilia wishes that the effort to kidnap and interrogate the girl had succeeded; it would have been interesting. "I will admit," she says, "I would have imagined that if a plan required letting an inexperienced if charming child go on the radio and talk about whatever she wanted Lastwall's leadership would've chosen their alternative plan which did not require that."
(It's much too late to not have this interaction be wildly more informative to Lilia than to Iomedae. It was too late for that the second it started.)
"You're a paladin of Iomedae, in Cansellarion's order, based out of Vigil. Don't be clever, you're not good at it."
"Chelish intelligence knows that you worked out of Vigil. We got persistent tracking on Marusek so we could find you when she was in the room with you. I did not confidently know you're a paladin until I saw you, though once we realized you worked out of Vigil and that the passionate opinions on democracy were a distraction it was a likely guess. They figure you're lying about being from Cheliax, which would imply you're not a paladin; if they were satisfied on that point they'd be pretty sure you are one."
Because when I said it you didn't look like I'd said something incorrect. That's half the game; say things you're only mostly sure of and let the other person's reactions confirm them for you.
"Because paladins behave differently around other paladins. Cansellarion watches you like you're his, and probably wouldn't have brought you here at all if you weren't. And I was never that persuaded you had to be lying about your background. Some people make it out, and the gods can smooth the way for their favorites. You do seem - too educated to have so little intuition for Asmodeanism - but there are stranger things."
"Defectors generally have more contempt, for those who remained. They know the crowd would cheer at their execution; they don't try to tell them how nice they are deep down. You act like you don't really understand what Chelish people would do to you, if they had the chance."
"See, that's what I mean. There's a - level of analysis you haven't learned how to conduct - 'thank you'? Am I doing you a favor? Why am I doing that? Do I want to see you sent to Hell? Would I have sent you to Hell? What am I hoping for, here, and why do I think you can give it to me? These are salient questions, when one meets one's enemies. What did I purchase of Cansellarion, and what did I pay for it? You're not very old but you couldn't get even that old without keeping track of those things, in some place where people aren't toothless."
"I have been told I'm very specialized," Iomedae agrees. Then realizes that this is possibly the kind of answer which makes Chelish defectors feel like you're incompetent to reason with and grapple with the world on the level on which they understand it, which she doesn't in fact wish to be. "- and I care about some of those things but wasn't treating what's personally interesting to me as a good guide to how to spend our time. Do you want to see me sent to Hell?"
"I said I'd answer relevant questions and I'm doing so, and at my own discretion I'm answering irrelevant ones if I think they'll make you less tedious. If I have further purposes I've made no promises I'd share those, or that you and your order would like them." She watches Freedom's perplexed face for a moment. The girl had legitimately assumed that because Lilia gave the advice 'you should have a theory of what I want from this conversation', Lilia would tell the girl what she wanted from this conversation if asked. There is no chance she grew up in Cheliax.
"It's possible to try to answer a question to your own satisfaction through methods other than just asking the other person and seeing what they say. You ought to try to have a guess about what I want, and I have no reason at all to help you come up with one, except to mislead you."
"That sounds like -" a system that doesn't make planes fly, or take you to the Moon. Iomedae doesn't say that. "- like you worked quite hard to get very good at a skill that no one outside Cheliax is ever going to appreciate, and like I'm also trying to wreck the ways Cheliax appreciates it."
Ah, so there are plans for world conquest at work here. Fascinating. It seems increasingly plausible to Lilia that there's much more to Freedom than meets the eye - that she is the genius archmage that built the radios, except she knows that the only reason Cheliax decided Lastwall had an archmage who built the radios was the Dominate Monster, for which a different explanation exists -
Well. All she has to do is keep the girl talking, which is very easy, and maybe she'll leave here with an understanding of how this project was conceived, who is in charge of it, and how the radio show fits into the rest of it. "I suppose with guns you could take more than just Cheliax."
"Cheliax's understanding of what motivates Lastwall and how they function flew out the window when we realized Freedom Radio ran out of Vigil and that they'd been secretly building guns. We thought they were slavishly devoted to holding onto Iomedae's territory and playing by Iomedae's rules, competent in the execution of that, and too weak and distracted to pose any real threat. We were wrong about them. An obvious direction to conclude that we were wrong in is - they in fact want to take for Iomedae every place she could reasonably have a claim to. Reconstitute the Empire, go pick up Ustalav and Belkzen - She would have, if She could have -"
Freedom believes that for Lastwall to go on some conquests she hasn't authorized would be employing her against her purposes. The radio show isn't sufficient for that to be a real constraint on Lastwall. The guns are. Lilia is finding this conversation very informative. "You wouldn't agree to enable the conquests?" she says. "But Lastwall is well governed, and at internal peace. There are few bandits on its roads. Its leaders never abuse their power. Has anyone told you the horrors to which the people of ordinary kingdoms are subject, by the caprice of ordinary kings? Maybe once they do, you'll tell Lastwall to go right ahead."
Iomedae is pretty sure she can't be persuaded that Lastwall should conquer Avistan. Because she doesn't know enough, because letting Lastwall conquer Avistan is a characteristic sort of mistake to make, because if Lastwall thought they could use her to do that then it recharacterizes everything else - because they told her they wouldn't -
"I really do dislike that they're a military dictatorship," she says, since she can't say any of that.
Awww. Freedom wasn't just pretending, she's actually a bit of a Chaotic Good idealist who has just thrown in her hat with the paladins - no, that doesn't fit with actually joining an order - Freedom is a teenage girl with messy internally contradictory political opinions and enough Splendour to convince herself of any of them at any time. To a god this probably just looks like the human condition and isn't prohibitive for paladining.
It's a better answer than the one she expected, anyway, which was 'b-b-b-but that's Evil!'
"I suppose you are unlikely to be appointed the Lord-Watcher of Avistan yourself and are quite likely to win it in a fair vote," she says.
"Sure it is - look, this is again the thing where you are not competent with the level of analysis that everyone else is engaged on. You think that places should be a democracy and you are very well positioned to win their elections and whether or not that's among your conscious motivations people'd be very foolish to discard it from their understanding of you."
"You know, among historians not in Lastwall, this is one of the great debates about the mortal Iomedae, whether she was an exceptionally virtuous and idealistic person or whether she was an exceptional propagandist who did approximately what any intelligent sufficiently ambitious person in her position would have done - become rich, accumulate a power base, win a war, declare independence, shore up the power base and ascend to godhood. And if a person is fully explained by their motivations, then virtue is hardly necessary to ascribe to them. We don't have to resort to virtue to explain why most men don't commit stabbings in cities in broad daylight."
Cansellarion opens his notebook. "She said it might help if I could 'tell Lilia the whole strategic picture and invite her to Freedom and her partner's wedding.' And then that she wasn't sure if it would work or not but would be funny." He dismisses the guard. Nefreti seems to think things go better if they treat Lilia's information as good, and would presumably not have told him to tell her the strategic picture if she were still a Chelish spy. And most of it Lilia knows anyways.
"The strategic picture is what you told me, with the addition that Nefreti thinks she can defeat Lorthact with help from someone who has not made up their mind about whether to help us yet, and convincing them to help us was the reason to tell you this."
So Nefreti knows that Myrabelle is stil alive. And knows that Myrabelle would resent this fact being revealed particularly to Cansellarion, who she went to some lengths to conceal it from. And 'ask Lilia' is of course a suggestion that draws Cansellarion's mind towards Lilia's mother -
And Nefreti pretends to be a madwoman, so she navigated this difficulty with this elaborate layer of obfuscation which will hopefully leave Cansellarion utterly confused as to which piece of information and which act of conveying it caused him to get the help he needs. Lilia nods. "Well," she says to Freedom, "if the necessary bit is the invitation then I am not inclined to impose by actually attending but I appreciate your willingness to extend the invitation and I do expect that as a result Nefreti will get some help with fighting Lorthact."
"I think so. I would apologize for her rudeness but I actually suspect she was being decidedly reasonable within her constraints. And I am glad we had the chance to meet," though that may well have been Nefreti arranging Lilia compensation for what is otherwise fairly obnoxious behavior. "I enjoyed our conversation. Your -" Cansellarion picked the word 'partner', a slightly strange one - "fiance is very fortunate."
And now she should go report to her mother. "I think I've given you what I said I would," she says to Cansellarion, "and would now like to have my hands free, and to leave if that's a necessary prerequisite. You can do another truth spell before I go if you want to confirm I haven't lied to you." That sentence is carefully crafted to not, itself, be a lie.
"She was not there. She had apparently given Cansellarion a series of absurdist and cryptic prophecies which he could make no sense of but which amounted to - there's someone who could help her defeat Lorthact, that person isn't decided about whether to do so, and if he fulfills the absurdist and cryptic prophecies it's more likely that they'll decide to do so. I figured that all you really needed to know was that she already knows you exist and there's not much additional risk incurred by just talking to her."
Myrabelle sighs. "You're right. The woman can cast sending as both a wizard and a cleric, but if this is how she decides to deliver that message that's her prerogative I suppose. I assume you told Cansellarion everything about Cheliax' operations. Did you learn anything?"
"Not from him. But the fulfillment of the absurdist prophecies involved a meeting with Freedom, which was - interesting. I believe they don't just have her as the face of the radio project, she feels some responsibility for the whole of it and expects it couldn't proceed on terms unacceptable to her. From that one would naturally infer that she's not really a teenage girl, but I think she is. She's also a paladin of Iomedae in Cansellarion's order, too weak to be fearless, wealthy - she owns the headband, rather than borrow it for broadcasts, and wears an exceptionally good cloak, though one would really hope they'd arrange her that given how much time Abrogail spends trying to give her nightmares. She can't be lying about having been born in Cheliax but I'm nearly sure she wasn't raised there.
- Nefreti told Cansellarion that she ought to invite me to her wedding, but considering that this was clearly an elaborate distraction to avoid telling Cansellarion he could reach a powerful potential ally through me, it seemed inconsiderate to accept."
...No, that seems likely part of the message. Freedom is getting married. There is the obvious guess as to to whom, apart from the fact that they are both women...they are women as rich as Mammon, and can find a way. She is not going to ask more about that and betray to her daughter that this is any interest of hers.
"Curious. You did good work, thank you. I think I am off to speak with Clepati now."
"Does it involve me dying in any substantial way? Does it involve drawing more attention of the sort that I'd prefer to avoid, or is that a lost cause by now anyways? I'm interested in doing it, if it can be done, but I want to know the cost."
She wants to protest that it has been almost a thousand years, that it was a relationship of a single week that she has had plenty of time to get over and so must already be over - but this year has not been kind to that delusion. Iomedae is clearly still very important to her. Iomedae is clearly still very upsetting to her.
"Why do I need to get over her by Oathday?"
"I met the Chelish defector," Iomedae says. "I asked her about the wedding invitation and she interpreted it as a - coded message. Which I guess makes more sense than some good thing having resulted directly from her attending a wedding. I really wish she could've picked some different code and saved us a lot of worrying."
"And kind of - showy, right. 'I know everything about you, even things you don't know yourself yet' - Cansellarion also looked incredibly irritated at Nefreti. He silently watched the whole conversation, presumably because - it was an easy conversation to make mistakes at, right, it felt like she was learning more from it than I was -"
"If I made any I didn't notice them and he didn't say in front of her but we didn't speak afterwards. Once she got the coded message the defector wanted to leave. …you know, I think I hadn't fully imagined out all the implications of - she trusted his Law as far as to be taken prisoner, as an enemy with incredibly valuable information, and in that situation I feel like I'd be constantly worried that it'd been a mistake or that I couldn't really trust an enemy that much and you'd think a Chelish person would be more paranoid than I but - she wasn't. Not about that. It was very soothing."
"I'd say it comes from having paladins as enemies but it's not like we weren't more paranoid than you're describing about helping Lastwall, and we're not even prisoners. And I'm a bit surprised they teach enough about paladins that defectors would notice they're safe around them."
"She was important. She said, uh, 'we keep the idiots ignorant but I can't do my job if I don't know what a spy sent to join a Lastwall paladin order needs to know and say.' And she said that Abrogail being in a bad mood had made her day to day work environment worse. But - why work for Cheliax at all, if you knew you had a choice and knew it was a real one -"
Lilia goes to Vudra, as the first place she can think of that is civilized, distant, uninvolved in the Great Avistani War by any stretch of the imagination, and unlikely to remind her of anything in particular. Stays at an expensive resort that caters to foreign adventurers. Sleeps, poorly, and casts Greater Heroism on herself for occasional breaks from crushing terror, and murders a servant who startles her, and makes a point of not reading any news out of Avistan, or listening to the radio, which to her somewhat unpleasant surprise has caught on even out here.
She'll presumably hear on Oathday how it went, from the overconfident teenage girl, or from her absence.
.
Iomedae spends most of the next two days in a haze of project handoffs. On the radio she reports rumors that the army is marching on Egorian, and that the Chelish army has fled, knowing it can't face the weapons wielded by free people. She gives one last primer before she departs for Osirion on how a village can take down a first circle cleric.
And then she goes to meet Lieutenant Jeres. She is trying very hard to fight against her innate impulse to dislike him for being her legal guardian while (probably) possessing neither her father's virtues nor Evelyn's.
"The radio project will continue as normal, but without any incitement to crime or proselytizing for anarchic gods. There are other laws about what you can say but those are the only ones that would've been violated by previous broadcasts. We'll go over the rest when we get there and have a local expert on hand. I have no orders regarding the scope of the engineering projects, I assume they are to continue as normal subject to the constraints imposed by the workspace and limited tooling." Someone else has presumably been given management of the engineers, someone actually qualified for that job.
Osirian law does not prohibit criticizing the conduct of the pharaoh's ministers. It does prohibit falsely claiming that the pharaoh himself is in error, what with how he is Abadar and most such claims are facially incorrect when you realize you're making them about Abadar. They prohibit incitement to crime and evangelism for anarchic gods and evangelism for evil gods and obscenity and libel. They really feel they are being very reasonable.
"...well, be mindful that someone might disagree with you about whether a false thing you're saying is harmless. It is legal to say true things that have a negative effect on the person you speak of - you may complain that another merchant stole from you, if he did - but he can of course complain that it's untrue and that can be very expensive to settle, if it's very ambiguous. You can be subject to a penalty for the saying of a falsehood you thought was true; you shouldn't spread lies. Do you have an example in mind of a subjective judgment you'd want to declare?"
"So as I understand it, it is a crime to say something which, unbeknownst to me, is false and which also, unbeknownst to me, damages a person's reputation - I might say that Doug is very kind to orphaned children, but if it was actually Doug's long-lost twin brother that I saw giving money to orphans and Doug has carefully cultivated a prized reputation for cruelty and indifference to the plight of others - this could be a crime, even though, fully informed of the law, I would not be able to identify in advance that this speech act in particular was illegal - It seems to me that if I wish to follow the law, I had best not say anything about anybody. Is that so?"
"That is a matter that could in principle be brought to the government if the victimized party and your family were unable to reach an accord. I think that it is a great virtue to not say anything about anybody, and one I'd wholeheartedly recommend you exercise," says the Osirian local expert, moderately irritated.
"I think that wise people tend to be cautious and reserved when making claims that might be interpreted to be criticisms of the Pharaoh's policies. They often disclaim, for example, that they can see only some and not all of the consequences relevant to policy decisions, and that the concern they note might well be well-answered even if they in their ignorance haven't seen the answer …do you also have a radio show?"
"If one doesn't have a radio show, then in nearly all cases if a person considers themselves wronged by false claims you're making about them, their family and yours will sort it out; it's a law, so they can bid for our intervention, but they almost never would, assuming anyone involved possesses some common sense. The radio show complicates matters because a falsehood spoken on the radio is heard by many thousands of people. I do not think you need to worry about what you say to your fellow foreigners in private; they'd have to ask us to intervene for us to end up doing so."
"I can see only some and not all of the consequences relevant to policy decisions, and these concerns I am noting might well be well-answered even if in my ignorance I have not seen the answer, but it sure seems to me as though this policy toward speech is ill-conceived; In making it impossible in principle to know whether acts are legal or not it makes it unnecessarily difficult to be a law-abiding citizen, which probably has deleterious second-order effects. On top of that I imgaine it has a broader chilling effect on speech and hence on innovation which is making this entire country poorer."
"In principle, Abrogail Thrune could try to bring us a cause of action about Freedom saying falsehoods about her, if she knew that Freedom were here - my understanding is that everyone is trying to avoid her learning that. In the typical case she could pay us to investigate if the claims were in fact false, and demand they be retracted if so, and then Freedom would either have to correct the falsehood on the radio or pay a fine. In this case, matters are …geopolitically complicated… and probably if Freedom is lying on the radio about Abrogail Thrune and Abrogail Thrune is asking us to investigate the truth of the claims and they're in fact false we'll just ask you to take the girls somewhere else, or take away their radio."
Iomedae squeezes her hand. "I guess I'm unclear on whether it ever comes up in cases like you named or if it's just broad so the government can take cases in a wide range of situations but still mostly decides on them reasonably. Though they didn't otherwise seem all that reasonable."
Iomedae tries to imagine what her father would have done if she'd decided that Taldor ought to have freedom of speech and started talking about the Emperor and ornamental dog breeds and unconscionable things…he would not have been okay with it. He would not have been remotely okay with it. "I can think of advantages to making it illegal to make knowingly false claims about the god-emperor," she says. "Even in America I think the thing you just said would be illegal if it was taken as a serious claim rather than an expression of strong emotion, and I'm not sure that's a good way to design libel law either -"
"Well. Good for them. …my father and I had a conversation, when I was twelve and the Duke was coming to visit, because he wanted to bar me from speaking the whole time and I was very hurt. And I shouted at him for a little while and he didn't shout back and then I realized - he was scared. And I figured I could behave myself, at that. …mostly. That's when I asked if I was allowed to say anything so long as it was scripture and spoke in nothing else for three months."
"The reason I'm sure my father wouldn't have had a problem with me talking around mean things about god-kings is - I saw him do it, I guess. Much more direct, though. Also I learned later that Aroden was not the god-king of Taldor. And I guess they were only traveling merchants and priests and not dignitaries, per se, but he definitely lost business for it… my father might not have been the wisest of men."
They never did get absolute confirmation that Osirion does not object to people being gay, which is unfortunate, because Iomedae is feeling very very gay right now. She contemplates going out to ask Jeres and then decides she would rather not do that, and would maybe rather do literally anything that isn't that.
"You are the cleverest thoughtfulest most inventive second wisest of men and I was just realizing that we asked the secretary to check if Osirion objected to homosexuality, and that I for one didn't hear the answer, and then I was imagining marching back out there having just been scolded for my association with you to ask Jeres -"
The attack comes Oathday morning. Well-coordinated, well-timed, eight locations within a few moments of one another. Monsters rush through Gates into the streets of Almas, while everything flammable in the city goes up in flames; a seething impenetrable darkness spreads like oil through the sky above the army and then turns out at the last second to be concealing a great red dragon, which sets itself to incinerating the soldiers by the hundreds; Azir burns, as does Isarn; some sea monstrosities surface to devour the Rahadoumi navy; someone lets out a pack of ravenous greater shadows in Vellumis; some Disintegrates punch through the walls of Andoran's border fortresses.
(Cheliax sends Lastwall and Andoran a declaration of war.)
(Morgethai, and Cansellarion, and Catherine de Litran, and a number of other people, feel the insistent tug of an effort to Wish them somewhere.)
Cansellarion's army in the field is thrown into disarray. Few can endure the presence of an ancient dragon. The bulk of the troops panic and run every which way.
The most powerful fighters left behind at the camp don't, though. Sure, there's a dragon, and sure, Cansellarion doesn't seem to be here to fight it, but just like they have crates of silver-plated ammunition for devils and cold-iron-plated ammunition for demons, they have crates of ammunition that they've been told to save for heavily-armored enemies, like hellknights in adamantine plate or, yes, dragons.
Catherine's not hiding, this time, and not sitting next to Morgethai. She catches the wish and uses it to conjure up a diamond for later. "I guess that's the signal," she says to Clepati, and smashes the last of the paper shreds in the mortar.
Lorthact's false realm is just a demiplane; he was kicked out of Hell. It's a good demiplane, trapped against outsiders and hostile both physically and magically, its valuables elaborately hidden, the souls in its custody carefully rigged to be difficult to rescue. It tries simultaneously to shred their souls, trap their souls, devour them, burn them, dissolve them in acid, turn them to stone, and turn them to ghouls.
The thing about a demiplane is that you can't actually put a disjunction trap in it, or any trespass would risk ruining the whole thing. Catherine and Nefreti are under death wards, warded against fire, immune to acid and petrification thanks to greater angelic aspect, and, in Catherine's case at least, already a ghoul.
It's still slow work - identifying wards, picking them apart, figuring out what's worth taking - but Nefreti doesn't seem to be in a hurry. "Ah," she says, a moment before Lorthact arrives, and that's all the warning they really need. Lorthact is, in fact, prepared to find an archmage in his sanctum, but he's not really prepared to find two of them.
Felandriel Morgethai is immune to soul-trapping when she is awakened from her very brief nap, and she's honestly looking forward to the opportunity to murder Razmir with Cansellarion and Codwin helping. With the forewarning, she has set up some contingencies that should trigger a Disjunction if he tries to show up in a Time Stop.
They kill him twice, and he's probably not very persistently gone but he stops showing up after that.
"Do we need to clear out this place now or will it keep if we go help out in Almas now?" Nothing related to either Iomedae has happened yet today, that she knows of. She's kind of dreading finding out what it is. (Also, fuck you Nethys.)
The first thing that comes to Vigil is magical silence, immediate and extensive, covering the whole city and the countryside a while past it. There are a few people in the world - none present in the city - who could recognize that the caster figured out how to do the same thing with silence that she could famously do with sleep.
Lastwall's emergency responders did not actually prepare for this one. They're coordinating with telepathic bonds, which is good because none of the ones still in Vigil would have been able to talk to each other normally - They split up. Some go to hold the keep, some go to guard the seal, some go to evacuate the leadership and the engineering staff. The efforts of the first two groups are almost certainly futile, but they are not the sorts of people who flee when all is lost. (They also pray, all of them, even though that's almost certainly futile too, because Iomedae surely has seen this already -)
She pauses in her work in the halfway reassembled new workshop and turns around and leaves, not speaking to anyone. The security is primarily designed for keeping people out, not keeping them in, but as she reaches four hundred paces from the doors of the Black Dome someone says, "you're not authorized to leave".
"Mm," she says, and then moves faster than should be possible and is outside the doors by the time they've drawn their weapons, and gone by the time they've called for help.
They arrive in midair over the silent city, as the walls crumble. The quiet makes it oddly dreamlike.
The caster cannot be seen but judging by the destruction is moving systematically towards the seal, doing the Disintegrates in a Time Stop so they seem, from the outside, to happen four or five at once; when anyone inconveniences them they get a mythic fireball.
Iomedae appears in front of the doors of the castle. She's in her engineering workshop clothes. She's carrying a six-shot revolver that is only half-loaded, which she happened to be working on at the time.
She looks in the right place, even though the caster is of course invisible.
She clears her throat. She is audible, despite the silence. And then -
Like a bird's eye view, or a scry, or a television camera panning, following a woman in glittering armor as she and her escort descend from the sky. She is instantly identifiable - intentionally so, the men ought to be able to recognize her. The shield has an eye of Aroden on it.
She takes off her helmet as she approaches the antimagic field at the door of the Magnificent Mansion the command is operating out of. It is recognizably the same face as the face of the woman now standing in front of the castle, but older, wiser, more tired. The face doesn't shift in the antimagic field; its caster nods and stands aside. She enters the mansion. "I need the room," she says, and everybody stands to leave except the astral deva sitting at the head of the table, watching half a dozen scries, her eyes flickering over to Iomedae's face to see if it's good news or bad news -
Do you remember?
Iomedae remembers all of them. Triumph after triumph after triumph after triumph, carefully planned, brilliantly executed, as they grew steadily more sure of themselves, not mistakes, that's the thing, victories that made them overconfident enough to make the mistake but every one checked out in its own right, look, the error was the delirious joy -
"Do you need a Heal," says Arazni.
"No," says Iomedae, only very slightly giddy with glee. "Why would I need a Heal? Have you been laboring under the impression that just because you are a god and a bit of a specialist with Fireballs you could hit me with a spell."
Arazni actually cracks a grin in response, at that. "If I'd thought it through, probably not, but in the moment I was sure I was going to roast you alive. Which would've been worth it, to be clear, for that headband."
"All right, what in the world is this headband. It looked perfectly normal to me."
"I think it's stronger than a greater headband," Mathriel says. "I've never seen anything like it before."
"All right, all right, I suppose it's worth roasting me alive for that. If you could, which you can't. - we have a decapitated army out there to go clean up. You'll have to tell me the rest of what we got later."
"Need any help with it?" says Arazni.
"Wait and see if Tar-Baphon shows, but I doubt he will, it wouldn't salvage this."
"Are we chasing them all the way to Vaishali Pass," says Cassidi.
"If we do that, Tar-Baphon probably will show. ..which is to say, yes, absolutely, but let's time that fight for dawn, when Arazni's fresh -"
"And when I've had time to confirm that the excessively good headband's safe to wear," says Arazni.
"I will try not to rout the enemy too fast."
"Wish me back," she says, in response to their Sending, and then she looks out on the assembled army on the plains of Abaddon and knows that she is going to die, and does the obvious thing to do in that situation, which is to commune with her god.
It's not that she has questions for him. It's that the asking can pause time.
"Do you see a way?" she asks Aroden, and flickers through a thousand futures - it's not that she dies in all of them, it's that she dies in most of them, and here Urgathoa has more power to steer which one they find themselves in than she does, or even than He does.
"No," he says.
She gets up to twenty questions. She's going to keep looking. "Do you see a way?" she asks Aroden again, and she can feel him concentrate more of his attention there, flick through futures himself, try to accumulate in this one place enough brilliance that if there is a brilliant solution they will see it - "No," he says.
"Do you see a way?" she asks him a third time, and now it is as if he is standing before her, as he looked when they were both of them mortal, handsome and clever and healthy and already haunted, and they can see a hundred thousand futures, it's just a matter of whether they can see any Urgathoa did not already see - "No," he says, and he's a god but that doesn't mean that his voice isn't shaking.
They hold each other, or do something that's more like that than it's like anything else. "Do you see a way?" she asks him, a fourth time.
"No."
Iomedae has been Disjoined; she has to scream, aloud, at the nearest person to tell Mathriel to cast the Wish, and it transpires Mathriel has also been disjoined. Alfirin has a scroll in her demiplane; she Plane Shifts out to get it. Mathriel gets the order by Sending from a person he's never met; he is comprehensibly suspicious. He asks Iomedae for confirmation. "DO IT," she screams at him.
It doesn't work.
Alfirin's back. "DO IT," she screams at her, too, though well aware that 'it's too late' is the likeliest explanation and that if so they'll need the Wish -
- no, says Aroden.
"- stop," she says to Alfirin.
And it's not a birds-eye view anymore, they aren't watching the Shining Crusade, they're just there, living it, the grief and horror is their grief and horror, beyond expression, beyond comprehension, and the only steadying thing in the world is the words Iomedae says without knowing if they're true. "We're going to need the diamond to get her back," she says, and the possibility steadies the world, for just a second, enough that they can organize the retreat.
A million futures planned together, crumbling like dust in the wind. All the conversations that she and Iomedae had been saving for after the war, all the indulgences there just wasn't any budget for. She tries to swat that away, and look for things that'd change the next five moments. "Do you see a way?"
No.
Iomedae is resplendent, handing out Heroism to a chubby-cheeked toddler.
"Still a no on trying Geb or Nidal, though?" says Marit. It was the one thing Iomedae had said she might stay a few years for.
"Still a no. We'll build civilization and get stronger and eventually possess the strength, or else we'll wait eight hundred years. I'm sorry. I'd hoped to achieve more here too, first." She says it, but she doesn't, visibly, feel it; it is a sorry of courtesy, not of felt regret. "There are places where triumph is more easily purchased."
It is the first time all evening he's felt like he knows this woman, understands her even when there's something she's not saying. Because in that, there is something she's not saying. He swallows. "You came back to see whether you could -"
"I can't. Aroden says I can't, I can see that I can't. But I came back to try, yes. One last human indulgence. Will you go with me?"
He will, of course. Arazni's body is kept in the highly-secure area under Castle Overwatch that they built shortly after her death. There is a very beautiful tomb, with words carved in the side. He doesn't remember who chose the words.
Iomedae pulls the six hundred pound solid stone top off the casket without the slightest difficulty. She casts Miracle, without a diamond, ten times in a row, to no effect at all.
And then she kneels, and bursts into tears, and sobs.
"Do you see a way?" she says.
"- yes, actually, but -"
She looks where He's pointing. "- holy fuck, that's not worth it."
"Absolutely not."
"If it happens anyway you had better fix it."
This isn't how Communes work. They're pushing the rules. But He finds that while He can leave her to die He cannot actually bear to leave her to die alone. "Whatever happens, I'll fix it," He says. "I promised -"
Iomedae turns to look at her, even though there's no way Iomedae could in any sense possibly need to turn to look at her. Sends - only to her - a continuation of one of the memories -
"It sure is a choice of last human indulgence," Marit says. "I feel like personally I'd -" No, he'd planned not to bring that up tonight.
"Get drunk and Sending my ex," Iomedae finishes the sentence for him, cheerfully. "I did also consider that. I - people have the right to walk away, the right to lives that aren't all about me."
A part of her - a large part - wants to flee. After this last year - this last century - it feels like there's nothing in the world she wants less than to have a conversation with the goddess Iomedae. But she knows herself well enough, now, to know that she'll regret it if she walks away. She'll probably regret it if she doesn't, but at least this way she'll know what she's regretting. She descends to the ground. "What."
Help is delayed due to the general chaos in the city, but she's still screaming when it arrives. A lay on hands doesn't do anything. The bystanders are asked not to go far, someone will be along soon to get all of their accounts. And can they not talk about what happened amongst themselves in the meantime?
Iomedae will be taken to the keep. There's not much anyone can do for her, but at least she'll be protected from anything else that might happen and out of the way of the people trying to restore order.
Lt. Jeres gets a sending informing him that Freedom was possessed by Iomedae and is in Vigil now, and that he should not tell this to the Osirians but should tell them the situation is under control and calm any panic happening on that end. He goes and does that. When he's done all that he goes and knocks on Alfirin's door.
She is still incoherent and disoriented and in awful pain. She has stopped screaming because screaming hurts more. She has no idea what's happening except that everything hurts too much to hold her thoughts together.
She does seem to recognize Alfirin, and makes a kind of strangled sound and reaches for her.
Iomedae spends …the rest of the day insensible, pretty much. She asks for Alfirin a few times, and asks where they are a few times, and at one point looks up at crying Alfirin and attempts to fix her with a Lay On Hands. She does not really seem to be able to understand speech even when she can produce it. She dislikes bright lights and loud noises.
Lastwall does need to look up what to do, here, but on the assumption that this is similar in nature to getting a vision from a god less good at sending visions, they have in fact put her in a dark quiet room. Some clerics do occasionally stop in to check how well Iomedae is improving, but they mostly leave them alone.
Jan exercises the privileges of his rank to assign other people to handle recovery efforts and the after-action reports for events in Almas, Azir, and Cheliax. There's not really a normal incident report to be written about events in Vigil. There's nothing they could have done that would have spared the Goddess Her intervention. Someone else can look into the questions of how they might have had slightly fewer casualties, or how the emergency response could have prioritized better. He and Cansellarion and the rest of Lastwall's leadership are going to focus on the bigger strategic updates.
First: Arazni is active in the world, still Evil, and no longer under Geb's control. And was doing favors for Abrogail Thrune. They suspect She'll have ended that alliance, if only because it was probably approved by Geb and if She's free of his control She almost certainly hates him and won't continue with his plans. They don't want to count on it, but… the Goddess would probably have done more to impair Arazni if She was going to keep causing them problems in the short term.
Second: There was a powerful wizard named Alfirin in the Shining Crusade, which cannot possibly be a coincidence, especially given Cansellarion's reports about what Clepati had said to him. (Witness descriptions of her do seem to plausibly match their Alfirin with another couple decades on her.) She was powerful enough to have her own demiplane, which should mean powerful enough to be mentioned in the histories, which means either she was deliberately left out of them or thoroughly involved in one of Iomedae's mistakes that got edited out… And still alive. She might've been made into a vampire or something, or she might have become a lich willingly. Based on the guess that she may have been classified as one of Iomedae's imitable mistakes, and on the younger Iomedae's relationship with her Alfirin… he suspects the latter more than the former. But she's still helping them, or at least - neither Clepati nor Lorthact showed up to the fight in Almas. There is enough going on here that it is probably worth Heaven's budget to clarify. They'll put a question in the next commune about whether to call someone for it.
Third: The declaration of war. In some ways, it simplifies their situation enormously. Not quite as much as you might think, though; Cansellarion already took almost everyone who could be spared from Ustalav and the Worldwound. It's a little more strategic flexibility, at the cost of not being able to leave Lastwall unguarded against overt raids.
Fourth: Catherine de Litran was, for some reason, on the scene pretty quickly. And had a frankly bizarre conversation with Iomedae the Goddess…Maybe he's just jumping to conclusions here, but in light of everything else he suspects that maybe Catherine de Litran is the nine-hundred-year-old Alfirin who was probably helping Clepati destroy Lorthact. It explains why she was there and… at least partially explains the conversation. They can check that theory in the commune too.
Fifth and most importantly: They already knew Asmodeus was spending more than they expected to defend Cheliax, but the extent of it today still caught them by surprise. They need to not be surprised at the next enormous escalation, even if they can't really prepare enough to be able to deal with something else as serious as Arazni. And they have another set of questions for the commune, about whether they should invest more in learning why, and about whether they should ask Heaven about why.
Someone is got.
"Arazni was here. She was destroying the city and probably going to release Tar-Baphon, and nobody could stop her. Iomedae appeared and - showed everyone the Shining Crusade. How Arazni died. For Arazni's benefit, obviously… we suspect Geb must have tampered with Her memories. Then She offered to free Arazni from Geb, and Arazni accepted and left. Then someone else showed up, exchanged some vaguely hostile sentences with Iomedae, and left. Iomedae told the nearest person to tell the two of you that She's very sorry, and then She left you and you collapsed. Do you want more detail about any of that?"
"That seems exactly like being sorry, to me! If you have to, I don't know, bomb someone's house, to prevent the end of the world, I wouldn't say you shouldn't bomb their house but it does seem like you - wronged them, and should admit it to them, and shouldn't just go 'well, you didn't want the world to end either, did you' - I don't know. I'm upset that things keep happening that are wildly above my pay grade but I feel a lot better about it if the people doing it agree that it's not very fair."
"I think there's a kind of sorry that there weren't better options where it doesn't seem sincere, to me, if you're not trying to have better options - but that's me being uncharitable, She probably is trying to find better options." But She probably won't succeed because it's obvious, if you think about it, why She chose this one, and it seems like it'd be hard for Her to do better. Alfirin is worried that things are just going to keep happening to her Iomedae until eventually it's something she can't bounce back from.
Iomedae is kind of scared of that too. This is a lot of things happening to her. When she envisioned saving the world she was, even though this is very stupid, envisioning fewer things would happen to her in the course of that. She squeezes Alfirin's hand again and addresses the person who came in to explain everything. "Is everyone else all right?"
"I wasn't going to say those things," Iomedae says. "I bet there are people in Lastwall who were praying for Her to save them who wouldn't mind the headache and would just feel honored and glad and uncomplicated, if She'd gone through them, whose families would just be proud and not worried because their trust in Her goes this far without faltering…I would've felt that way, when I was fifteen and it was Aroden. I mostly don't now because I'm too busy feeling like - how many things are going to happen - I know that's kind of cowardly, we're the ones that picked a fight with Hell itself - I don't think we only did that because we were deluded about how easy it would be -"
"I think…I need a plan to be okay for my whole life which is not 'things stop happening' and is instead one where it is fine if things happen, so long as we come out of them in one piece. Or resurrectable. If I wanted to be safe I should've stayed on Earth, and - I don't wish we'd done that."
"Mhm. It would be easier if it felt like we had…any control over the outcomes at all. Like if things go kind of badly that's because we made mistakes and we can learn to not make those mistakes again - or if it felt like we were accomplishing anything besides just surviving. I guess I should focus more on the wizardry. This time might sit a little better if I'd gotten second-circle spells out of it."
Iomedae squeezes her hands, and then closes her eyes, and then sings Alfirin a song that she sang her a long time ago, the first time she made a mistake that destroyed peoples' lives. She hasn't sung Aroden's songs since she learned he died. She thinks that perhaps that was, in some sense, an important mistake.
"I gave up my agents in Vigil, I only have rumors," and she's now very annoyed about not having the agents. She doesn't like being blind. She had been ready to defiantly stay out of the whole mess once she'd helped avert the Oathday attacks but when Arazni's out and about and doing things and Iomedae's out and about and doing things one can't really stay out of that. "They say that the whole city was made silent by magic, and the walls shattered very systematically, heading towards the seal, and then Iomedae showed the whole city visions of the Shining Crusade, offered to free Arazni from Geb - Arazni accepted - spoke to a few more people, and then left. A possession, apparently, not an appearance, she left Her servant behind." Lilia's understanding is that possession is cheaper and safer for the god for a short appearance, but that the god will burn through their mortal host very quickly and that the requirements for a host are obscure-to-mortals and often prohibitive. "If you want more urgently I can ask Cansellarion; I think 'tell me what I'll have learned in a month anyway' is only a small share of the favor he now owes me for saving his whole war."
"Yes." She'd been planning to stay away, but there was no Freedom Radio broadcast Oathday, and that made her nervous enough to go by Absalom, where the rumors in the streets included that Iomedae had murdered Arazni, that Iomedae had dueled with Geb, that Vigil was in ruins, that Arazni had murdered Iomedae, that Abrogail Thrune was secretly Arazni, that Geb had joined the war on Cheliax’s side, that Nex had joined it on Andoran’s, etc etc etc until she was frustrated enough to go to Vigil herself and spy on people in person.
"I know it's not how we usually do things, but you could have asked me if you wanted to know what happened. I didn't expend any significant resources, the forces of Good lost a thousand people or so and a lot of stone, but nobody important. The biggest loss was Vigil's walls which they won't be able to put back the same. Iomedae is willing to do big interventions to save Lastwall and the war, Arazni is free and I'm sure will start taking actions we might have to worry about in a year or two but my best guess is that right now she's going to be focused very hard on her own security."
Lilia is not easy to read but to the extent she looks anything she looks surprised. Myrabelle meticulously never tells her anything she doesn't need to know. ...though it is of course less true now that it's quite likely to be eventually tortured out of her. "All right. Your orders?"
"Apart from passing on anything your remaining agents send you I don't have any right now. Go back to Vudra. Enjoy yourself if you can - those aren't orders, just recommendations. You did well, I'll need you again in a month if all goes well, possibly sooner if it doesn't. You've got some time, make the most of it."
"You wanted to know, did you not? And we have fewer constraints on how long it's wise to talk, now, I can spare a few minutes for your curiosity. And it might be important context in the future, so spending the time to give it to you now instead of later is not even costing me the full few minutes it takes."
Should Lastwall[1] attempt to investigate why Asmodeus is investing more in this war than expected?
Yes.
Should Lastwall call from Heaven someone who can speak from their experience in life to the original Alfirin's role in the Shining Crusade?
Yes.
Should Lastwall proceed on the assumption[2] that Catherine de Litran is Alfirin.
Yes.
Should Lastwall proceed on the assumption that Alfirin is an enemy of Hell and an ally in the war effort against it?
Yes.
Should Lastwall proceed on the assumption that Alfirin is an ally, generally?
No.
Should Lastwall attempt to make contact with Alfirin and communicate openly with her about the terms of their alliance?
Unclear.
[1] Formally, communes ask 'should those institutions within which the commune result will be shared as strategically relevant, and which share a common comprehension of those constraints that produce commune answers', unless the question is in fact not intended for free communication among Lastwall, the institutional church of Iomedae, relevant paladin orders, and allies at the discretion of the above. There's shorthand for this, at this point.
[2] Communes rarely ask 'is X true', as this puts the goddess in a difficult position if the claim is literally true or closer to true than false but the course of action advised is not the one Her servants will take with that answer; by default, she taught her church, communes should ask behavioral questions if the reason they want the answer is so they can act, reserving factual ones for when they're trying to develop a not-immediately-action-relevant deeper comprehension of theology or of the universe or whatever else. There are different ways to formulate the two kinds of question, and also the Goddess will default to the interpretation that she thinks matches their intent, if they're unclear. If they're asking on behalf of some non-default set of institutions they broadly shouldn't ask behavioral questions unless they're very very important ones; she doesn't want to have to compute the interests of some other actor, and won't be accurate enough for it to be safe to represent their interests as accounted-for.
She should not mention that she was directly involved in events in Vigil. She should probably give any explanation for the missed broadcast; some true facts are that she was injured and some of her broadcasting equipment damaged. They have some reports she can read about the events which don't include anything secret. The only things Iomedae knows that are secret are that she was the one possessed by the god Iomedae and that they had some advance notice of the attacks.
Can she interview a witness to the miracle in Vigil? People love that kind of thing, and it does imply that she's either in Vigil or has Teleport access but if the witness is themselves Teleport-capable it could easily be the latter, and it's just hard to beat people describing events in their own voice.
"This is Freedom Radio, and, wow, have we got some updates for you today. First off, as many of you undoubtedly noticed, we missed yesterday's broadcast. I cannot tell you exactly why that happened. I am going to tell you a lot of things that happened yesterday and that some of them may have been relevant to the missing broadcast.
First, Cheliax has declared war on both Andoran and Lastwall. They sent the declaration of war more or less simultaneous with an attack before dawn on Almas, Vigil, and probably also some other places. I'm sure news will keep trickling in over the next few days. In Almas, Razmir was reportedly present, and he opened Gates through which monsters swarmed the city. Luckily, Almas has Felandriel Morgethai, and she doesn't take it very kindly when people mess with her city, and she's a much more impressive archmage than Razmir is. I'm told that she killed him twice in the space of around two minutes, and that after that he decided to go home. Razmir's learning what a lot of people have learned recently: Hell can offer you what looks like a good deal, but they can't actually offer you a good deal. They're constitutionally incapable of it.
Now, as I understand it, it took a few hours to finish cleaning up all of the monsters Razmir unleashed on Almas, and thousands of people did die in the fighting. But let's be very clear: Abrogail Thrune didn't try to get Razmir involved in her war and open up a second front with Andoran just to kill some people in Almas. Cheliax almost certainly thought that they could take Morgethai out, and leave the forces of Good without one of their most powerful defenders. It didn't work, and now they're in deep trouble. The Chelish army might be able to hold the border with Andoran, but only by leaving the rest of the country to the Glorious Reclamation, and only if Andoran doesn't have guns. If I were the Supreme Elect of Andoran, I'd be buying some guns this morning - and if I were Lastwall, I'd be selling them.
And that brings us to the second of yesterday's big events, which is that the attack on Almas was at the same time as the attack on Vigil. Now, Vigil doesn't have an archmage who lives there and defends it, but it has something nearly as good. The walls of the city were built by Arazni, an archmage and at least half a god, during the Shining Crusade. They're supposed to be very nearly invulnerable to any mortal magic. An ordinary wall can fall to a sixth-circle wizard casting Disintegrate, but if you cast Disintegrate on the walls of Vigil they'll laugh at you.
So who did Cheliax enlist to try to break the unbreakable city? Well, the person who built it. The body of Arazni, after the end of the Shining Crusade, was stolen by Geb, who raised her as a lich bound to his service. She's ruled Geb ever since. And yesterday morning, she arrived in Vigil to, apparently, destroy it. Now, Geb could destroy most places if he wanted to, but he really does not bother. In fact it's hotly debated if he's still around on this planet at all. And Arazni herself, bound as she's been to his service, has almost never been known to leave his country. The timing is very strongly suggestive that Cheliax figured out something they could bribe Arazni or Geb with to send Arazni to wreck Vigil, and thereby to hopefully make Chelish liberation untenable.
Now, there are archmages - Morgethai, Razmir, Clepati - and then there are archmages, out of legends, Nex and Geb and Tar-Baphon and Arazni. You don't want your country to be at war with an archmage because they're nearly impossible to kill and can do all kinds of things, but most archmages do in fact meet their match, eventually, and there are known limits to what they can do. They can only prepare so many spells, they can still be affected by your spells if they're unlucky, they can get caught in an antimagic field.
Archmages out of legend are an entirely different sort of thing. Razmir tried to overrun Almas with monsters. Arazni cast a silence on Vigil, and everything for ten to twelve miles around, making it approximately impossible for most spellcasters to oppose her. She then stopped time and dismantled the walls she'd built; when time started again, they were falling to rubble.
If Razmir's attacking you, you can place traps that Disjoin him, you can smite him and shoot at him.
What do you do against that? You pray. …well, to be clear, people did also try smiting and shooting at Arazni, it just had no effect. But mostly, I am told, they prayed, because no power on Golarion could save them.
And their Goddess came from Heaven. And you might think that what then ensued was a spectacular fight between Good and Evil, but you'd be forgetting - Iomedae and Arazni served together in the Shining Crusade. They were friends, once. And what I'm told Iomedae did when She came out of Heaven was talk to Arazni. Show her what really happened in the Crusade where they fought together, show her how she died, show her how her friends had grieved her, show her that they never stopped hoping they would someday have the strength to save her. And then the Goddess cut Arazni free of Geb.
So, uh, I can see why Cheliax thought that they had the upper hand, here. They believed they were in position to deliver a devastating blow to Lastwall, to declare war and win it in the same moment, and to leave Andoran fighting nearly alone with their archmage dead and their allies devastated.
I'm just not sure why they thought the forces of Good would put up with that. Maybe they believed their own propaganda. Iomedae is a problem for House Thrune, right - a Chelish woman, an ascended god, a proof that in old Cheliax there was strength that the country Asmodeus is strangling cannot even dream of possessing. So they have to lie about her, and the most popular lie is that She is weak and cannot win. It's true that Asmodeus has more power to throw around than Iomedae. But Asmodeus needs to use more power for nearly everything He does, because - look, Razmir's Lawful Evil. Geb is purportedly Lawful Evil last anyone heard. Arazni's Neutral Evil. But did any of those people collaborate with Asmodeus because they want to see His country stay His? No! He had to spend what was probably an astounding sum of money to bribe them. Did Iomedae bribe Felandriel Morgethai to work for Her? No! Felandriel Morgethai is doing this because she hates House Thrune her own self.
So Asmodeus has a spending advantage, but that's not at all the same thing as a power projection advantage. He can spend astounding sums to bribe Geb to send Arazni to Vigil, but Iomedae can show up and say 'would you rather not work for Geb' and there goes that. He can spend astounding sums to bribe Razmir to try to kill Morgethai, but if it doesn't work on the first few tries Razmir will decide it's not worth the money. He cannot buy alliances built on anything more than convenience and assured selfish benefit, and he doesn't have any friends.
Anyway. Some of my transmission equipment was damaged yesterday, and I was actually injured, but on the whole I've never been in a better mood. No one likes Asmodeus, and the powers arrayed against Him can shoot almost anything in our path – or talk to it, which is even better. Abrogail, I wonder if the story of this miracle out of Vigil feels at all personal to you. Iomedae is called the goddess of destroying Evil, but what She did, when She met Arazni, was see that She'd been lied to, and clear all the lies away with the sheer force of the truth, and then invite Arazni to be free, and when Arazni got to choose between being a slave for a lie or living free with the truth She chose to live free. The forces that march on you will destroy you, if we have to, but we would really much rather free you, and our greatest weapon is the fact that we can tell the truth and you can't stand to hear it."
"I'm glad you'll be alright. On to business. First up, we learned during the miracle yesterday that the original Alfirin was a wizard fighting in the Shining Crusade. A powerful one, at least seventh circle and probably eighth at the time. She's also still alive, or undead, and has been helping us in the war. She may be evil. All of this is secret, but the two of you deserve to know and you shouldn't be surprised if she decides to try to contact you for some reason."
…She does not know if that's better or worse than being eaten by a bear. Depends whether she's evil, she supposes, and on whether she's immortal or undead. Her original life being an immortal powerful wizard would be pretty cool; her original life being an evil undead wizard would be pretty scary. "...How did you just learn this yesterday, if she's been helping in the war and was in the shining crusade?"
"It's not that weird. You said it yourself, on the radio just now. Asmodeus doesn't have any friends, even among other evil beings. The reason we suspect her to be undead is that very few wizards have achieved immortality by other means, and even stretched to its limits with magic her natural lifespan would have ended seven hundred years ago. We suspect she may be evil because she's likely-undead, because the Goddess cautioned us against treating her as an ally in general, and because - we think she had a conversation with the Goddess after Arazni left. Iomedae said, quote, 'The person you'd be if you were living up to your own values is someone I'd have no quarrels with.' end quote, to which she replied 'do your worst'. That's reconstructed from what multiple witnesses remember, so the exact words might be off."
Iomedae clings right back. That does kind of sound more like what an evil undead wizard would say than what friends would say. …also she's now kind of upset that her body was used to say something that evil undead wizard Alfirin plainly took as a threat. "Probably it is not very wise to try to reason about maybe undead wizard Alfirin by thinking about the good Alfirin," she says. "But it is easy for me to imagine that the maybe undead wizard Alfirin is still a good person and just doesn't like gods very much."
Lastwall has been dealing with undead wizards since its inception and not one of them has turned out to be a good person. "Maybe. Just - be careful if you ever do meet her again. Don't trust her just because she and Alfirin used to be the same person. People can change a lot, in nine hundred years."
"The second thing you should know is that we're working on sending you back to the Dome. Probably tomorrow. Cheliax tried kidnapping people with wishes again yesterday, and we think they might try again - they also might not, if yesterday cost them too much and they have to conserve resources more, but it doesn't seem that we'd have been served well by thinking in those terms after the first kidnapping attempt, or after the wall of hellfire."
Iomedae does not herself feel like it makes any sense to try to solve 'Iomedae is stubborn and insubordinate' with 'get Iomedae a more diplomatic commanding officer' but the real sticking point here is Alfirin. She's absolutely not going to blame Alfirin for anything, though. …she's also not going to assure Valentina that everything's fine on Alfirin's behalf. This does leave her without much of anything to say.
"I think most of our conflict was due to having different understandings of how much authority he had over me, especially how he - ambiguously imprisoned me - after Iomedae was possessed and left. If that's made clearer and he's not holding a grudge I expect we can civilly tolerate each other…for a few weeks or a month at least. I'm less sure, if we're going to be there for the rest of the year."
"Then I think we can keep working from the Dome for a month and then revisit. I, uh, regret any problems I caused by leaving the dome against orders, I don't remember it and could hardly have done otherwise but I - didn't know they ambiguously imprisoned you -" She squeezes Alfirin's hand again.
"He let me out after I yelled at him and reminded him he had orders to let me leave if I wanted to, but it would've been better if he didn't do it in the first place. He also made me waste a scroll and bother Lord-Watcher Zima because he wouldn't tell me where Iomedae was even after she'd been found."
She reminds herself that Alfirin is a civilian and shouldn't be expected or required to be patient and do her duty in an emergency. It's kind of frustrating. "I understand. I'll make sure his orders are clear. I assume no major progress on radio detection, given the disruptions? There are a lot more undetectable wizards around, these days, and if it bypasses existing wards it could help a lot."
Lastwall calls Marit. Of the shining crusade's commanders, he's the one who lived the longest and saw the most of the relevant period.
"Subject to your best judgment of what information is worth the cost of sharing, we would like you to help us correct the historical record of the shining crusade, particularly as it relates to the individual 'Alfirin', and also to, again subject to your judgment of what information is worth the cost of sharing, consult with our leaders on why Asmodeus is willing to spend as much as he is on preserving Cheliax. In exchange," - and this is always the most awkward part of calling angels for help - "We offer to contribute four thousand absalom pounds to research efforts aimed at producing better enchanted weapons for combatting the undead and the forces of Hell and the Abyss. Most of which would probably have been contributed to that research anyways. Alternately, we can provide that payment to you directly if that is preferred."
Marit is a spyglass archon, now, winged and limbed but not particularly humanoid in form, and hard to look directly at, more like an inconsistency in what one’s eyes are reporting than an actual being. His voice, though, is an ordinary human one. “I assent,” he says, “and would see the payment directed wherever you believe it serves me.”
"Currently we know that she served in the shining crusade, was capable of casting plane shift at the time of the battle of Vaishali Pass, and had a personal demiplane, though we don't know whether she made it herself. And that the accounts of the Crusade underwent revisions at some point in the past and that may be why she is not mentioned in them. I've been told that we are best served by acting as though she is alive today, though we don't have explicit confirmation that she is. And that's all. What can you tell us about her, during the crusade?"
Marit hasn't been assigned to Golarion particularly, and has talked with many petitioners once of Lastwall but apparently not asked the right questions. "- I would advise against extensive revisions of the histories and the revisions in question would have been very, very extensive." He'd scold more but these probably aren't the people who even did the relevant revisions. "Alfirin was the Shining Crusade's archmage from 3824 through the end of the war. Sarkorin; enchantment specialist; Lawful, not good, not confidently known to us to be Evil. We asked Aroden on several occasions if we could assume her trustworthy in our shared endeavor and always received assurance that we could. I first met her in 3800 shortly before I joined Iomedae's command; she was a fifth circle wizard on contract with the Crusade, at that time, and Iomedae's personal friend.
…she and Iomedae were lovers, briefly, in …probably 3802, before Iomedae decided that the kind of - process - she wanted to be didn't have complicated personal attachments. Alfirin left the crusade at that point, for five years, and returned at seventh circle. They both believe they acted foolishly; I didn't observe either of them to do anything wrong.
Alfirin did not to my knowledge have very many other close friends, then or later; she had a fox familiar, Curiosity; she worked capably with the other crusade wizards and once she was a powerful spellcaster was tutored by Arazni. Iomedae trusted her, though mentioned to me on a few occasions that she was less confident she could trust the person Alfirin might someday become. - she wanted to be immortal, and we weren't sure she wouldn't in desperation eventually turn to lichdom. I never knew her to act cruelly, or to betray trust where it was extended to her, and I spent a lot of time and energy looking for signs she was doing wrong and successfully concealing it and never found any, but she did not particularly attempt to earn my trust in a deeper sense than - that I was confident she wanted to beat Tar-Baphon, and confident she would never betray Iomedae. - the mortal. I do not think she possesses any similar loyalty to the god.
She reached ninth circle about eight months after Arazni died. We'd been making do, barely, with ninth circle scrolls we were running low on. We were gambling that somebody would make it before it was all over, and she did. She had, at that point, significant negotiating leverage she never employed at all; she drew a nominal salary and put what must have been very close to her full slate of spells at the Crusade's disposal. She was never formally in Iomedae's command, but I never knew her to refuse a request unless she thought it was a bad idea, and in that case they'd debate it until someone was persuaded. She was very smart, good tactical judgment, could imitate a few of Tar-Baphon and Arazni's tricks that no one else ever could, one of the people I'd most prefer to work with if conducting a war and sure she was on my side of it.
She left as soon as the site at Gallowspire had been secured and the war was over. I never heard from her again, and I don't believe Iomedae did.
I am willing to elaborate, and don't know where elaboration would be more valuable to you."
"We have both a historical interest, in wanting to correct the record where it is mistaken, and a present interest in that we believe her to be active in the world. For the former, whatever accounting you can give of what particularly she contributed to the crusade, especially after 4824 when her omission seems most glaring. For the latter, elaboration on her capabilities, especially those tricks that only Arazni or Tar-Baphon could manage, and anything Heaven knows about what she did after the Crusade, if that is known to you and permitted for you to tell us. In particular we are of course interested in whether, knowing her to be active today, you predict that she achieved lichdom or some other means of immortality."
Sure, he can give them a description of battles after 3824 in which Alfirin was decisive. It's most of them. Archmages are very useful. He goes through that only briefly; it's a less important use of scarce resources, though he now suspects that it would've been worth correcting in detail when the error first occurred. Then capabilities. "I have seen her cast six ninth-circle spells in a day. She knew the trick to Dominate or Feeblemind people who try to scry you through the Detect Scrying glimpse back at them, that previously we thought was one of those things only Tar-Baphon could do, and I've seen her use a Limited Wish to imitate Arazni's Haste which no one except Iomedae was ever able to pick up. I did not see her imitate Arazni's Time Stop or Arazni's Tsunami, and she told me she was unable to do Arazni's Wall of Stone or Arazni's Invisibility, even with a Limited Wish. She had multiple clones. She had a private demiplane with self-sustaining gardens, Arazni taught her that.
…I think she would have pretty strongly dispreferred being a lich, if she could come up with anything else. I know the conventional wisdom is that most archmages in that situation end up being a lich, having failed to come up with anything else.
Heaven doesn't to my knowledge know what she did after the Crusade. She pretty clearly didn't want to be kept track of, and - she was an ally, intrusive efforts didn't seem warranted. I definitely wrote Lastwall an analysis in case she should later emerge as an enemy. My current best guess, given that she's alive now, is that she is the reason she's not in the history books, and destroyed your records on purpose."
"Our current understanding, based on our own observations and also a commune, is that she is an ally in some of our purposes and not all of them. We are considering whether to attempt to contact her and clarify and formalize the terms of our alliance. We are also considering how much to invest in preparing for a future conflict with her. Do you have advice on either of these matters?"
"- depends a lot on whether she's the same person I knew. If she is, it'd be worth talking. Carefully, she was averse to the way Lawful Good people tend to see the world, but - she was in fact someone who wouldn't make you worse off for checking if there was common ground, and there often was.
If she's a lich - I'd expect that to be one of the virtues that gets crushed when you do that to yourself.
I could contact her, while I'm here. It seems plausible she'd murder me but that would be informative if so.
I'd be fairly surprised if she went to war with you in your mortal lifetimes, even once your mutual enemies are destroyed. It'd be - well, it'd be ill-advised, and if she's stayed under the radar this long she's evidently still a patient person given to secrecy. It would surprise me if preparing for overt conflict was a good use of resources."
"If you think you contacting her is likely to go better than us doing it, that would be appreciated, though if she is likely to murder the person who reaches out to her it might be wise for someone recoverable to do that. What about covert conflicts? You hypothesize that she tampered quite extensively with our records once, would she engage in other acts of sabotage?"
When they're re-ensconced in the Dome and Iomedae has apologized to Lieutenant Jeres for the worry she caused, not that it was a volitional action on her part and not that she can promise it won't happen again, she makes a point of hugging Alfirin very tightly. Probably learning that your alternate timeline self might be an evil wizard is even more upsetting than learning that she's a good god and learning that she's a good god was honestly kind of upsetting.
She appreciates the hug a lot. It is in fact really upsetting to learn that when she doesn't get mysteriously transported to America she becomes a probably-evil probably-undead. "It's not even just that she's evil and undead, it's that - I don't know why she's evil and undead, right, I don't know if it's, like - she got turned into a vampire and now she's evil, or she decided to be a monster - and I don't know that it's not - something that might still happen to me, if the wrong things happened in my life -"
Hughughughughug. "If you get turned into a vampire I will fix it. If you get raised by Geb as a lich like Arazni I can, in fact, apparently get strong enough to fix that too, though I'll try not to rope in any unsuspecting teenagers. If she just - decided to do awful things - then in some ways that's more upsetting but it's also like - the goddess Iomedae just didn't know that democracy worked, so she didn't do it - you know more, and can just decide not to do awful things -"
"I can but… I don't know why she would have decided to do awful things in the first place. So when I think 'Oh, I'll just not choose to be evil' it's - I don't know if it's because something went differently for me already, that I learned… how to be a good person, or something… or if it's just a failure of imagination about what might happen to me, about who I might be."
"That's - I don't know if that's reassuring, exactly. Part of it is that we don't even - we just have Precentor Valentina telling us that she's probably evil. We don't know what that means in terms of actions. I - I don't know, I imagine you might stop loving me if I was literally Hitler, and my evil wizard version is probably not as bad as literally Hitler but, like -"
"I would probably tell you that I felt obliged to try to kill you, if you were literally Hitler. I don't actually know that I'd stop - loving the person I know, even if you had stopped much resembling them - we don't really know enough for a lot of this, I just don't want you to worry that if Lastwall decides they disapprove of you or if it turns out your evil wizard self is Hitler I'll change my mind about you."
"Oh. Yeah. I'm not worried about that. I love you and I trust you and - I'm not really worried about what people will think about me based on what my wizard self is like. I know you won't change what you think and - if Lastwall does they're being stupid but that's their right as Americans. Not that they are. I'm just… worried about what it actually does say about me, to me, until I know what she did and why?"
"Mhm. I just - feel like I'm doubting everything, like - should I keep trying to be a wizard myself? Or maybe I should, because - it seems like if I were tempted to do terrible things it would be when I'm scared - but maybe that means I shouldn't do things like learn magic where - there's more that I can do, in a short time, if I'm panicking - but that just feels like saying 'maybe I shouldn't be able to do any things'"
"When you were very, very scared yesterday you patiently pointed out to Jeres your rights under your agreement with him and then made some purchases that amount to a rounding error in your ownership of industry, like, all of it, and then came and gave me hugs. And I guess Sendinged the Lord Watcher but that was not actually at all evil to do."
"I can see how - if there were a lot of situations like that - it would mean that having more power let people be more evil. But I think in most situations, like, the best way to solve problems is not literal murder even if you have a gun...this is less true on Golarion but I think it's still true, when you have the resources we do. And magic also allows for - escaping Jeres -"
"This is Marit," the voice says over a Sending the next day. They considered alternatives. Marit thinks that hypothetical lich Alfirin who considers herself to have declared war on Iomedae's church yesterday is more likely to kill him than to kill a random paladin, but also much more likely to be possible for him to productively talk to than a random paladin. And - they don't know why, yet, so much is at stake here for Asmodeus, but Marit is not likely to go on to die in some fight where there's more at stake. "I'm in Vigil trying to fix what they did to their history books. I'd like to talk, if you would."
Well. She's lost enough things she cares about, in this war, and she already knew her secrecy was one of them. Lastwall wouldn't use this for an assassination. She will probably just get lectured again, because that's what old friends do, apparently, but maybe she'll be proven wrong about that. It can't really hurt more than everything else does. "Unless you say otherwise, I'll be there in two hours. I'll speak with Lastwall's leadership after, if they want to."
"- if you asked Iomedae to leave you out of the books she would have. I assume that's - why she let you remove yourself." The more he's seen the more sure he is that that's what she did. "I - don't like having this nonsense in print, and everyone in Vigil knows it's missing something now that Iomedae and Arazni had a big public argument about it, but - if there are particular lower-cost elements - or if this is very important to you still -"
"Well I was going to try to delicately approach the question of whether there's any possible way Lastwall could productively set up talks with you but then you just said you'll talk to them while you're here, so I have of course taken full credit for my astounding diplomatic skill in arranging that. I - don't really know where to start, with anything else? Are you all right?"
"I knew you, yes. If I'd known how much Asmodeus was paying - I wouldn't have sided with him, ever, but I would have been much slower, and more careful about opposing him. Do you know why he's so invested, or is that as much a mystery to Heaven…or something we mortals don't get to know?"
"If you don't get to know it I wouldn't have been sent here knowing it," he says. "I hear you're a bit of an enchanter. …I think Heaven doesn't know either. They told Lastwall to try to find out. There are a few things we know and you don't. Without a country-sized power base on the Material Asmodeus is going to have to pay a bunch of penalties for being in default on his Rovagug-monitoring obligations, so we knew he'd be motivated to hold onto it, - but what we know of that doesn't, actually, add up to anywhere near the amount Asmodeus is spending here - all of the other planets are having a lovely year, for whatever that's worth -"
"Oh, most people find the changes fairly striking." He flutters the wings; the overall impression is like there's a smudge on the lens of your glasses. "I took it pretty slow. I have the not particularly uncommon preference for psychological changes to not happen to me unless I have reviewed them very thoroughly and favor them having tried them on and taken them off a few times. I'm happier, and I have less desire to see my enemies suffer, and I feel less bitterness when people are incompetent in ways that make my life worse, and I notice matters of law more instinctively, and I am unafraid all the time instead of just when there are paladins around. Haven't changed anything else on a persistent basis yet."
"As a former friend I suspect they are right - that's not to say I feel any animosity toward you, just that we haven't spoken in centuries. I think I have changed…less than you would expect looking at how much a typical human changes in their lifetime and multiplying fifteen or twenty-fold. Not a surprising amount accounting for the fact that even normal humans experience less dramatic changes as they get older. I am sure I have changed for the worse in the last hundred years but I would not appreciate a lecture about it."
"I wasn't really planning to lecture you about it," he says. "Maybe it's true of some evildoers that they've never really heard much case for Good - maybe it's true of most evildoers - but you've heard anything I could possibly think of saying. I assume if you thought we were in error that you'd be willing to debate."
"I've heard most of it before, yes. I guess most people trying the lecturing don't know that. I may have some disagreements about what is - desirable, for the world - but it does not seem to me that debating that is among our most pressing concerns. Those disagreements aren't what anyone's planning to destroy me over."
"No, I'm sure She meant it. It'd be - indecent to accept your help were you wrongly assured we won't ever be enemies. Only I'm sitting here and it doesn't cost entire planets for me to spend an hour rather than a moment speaking with you and so it's terribly tempting to just go 'okay, but that's stupid, how about instead we're not enemies?'
And - she had that inclination too, right, which -"
"Well, it seems possible She disagrees about that, but if so she did not clarify to me why she thinks it's a reasonable thing for you to prioritize now and I don't actually have any guesses, from what I know it looks like we should all prioritize bleeding Asmodeus dry and surviving what He rains down on us in so doing."
Lastwall is apprehensive about their diplomatic meeting with the adult Alfirin who is a probably-evil archmage, probably essential to the war effort, and probably Iomedae's notable mistake that got edited out of the history books. Also quite possibly a lich. Marit thought it was moderately unlikely that she was here to assassinate them all, but that if she was she'd probably succeed.
Cansellarion is additionally apprehensive. Mysterious evil archmage, around but operating secretly since the Shining Crusade, who the Goddess says is allied with them in this war but not in all of their concerns - the obvious thing to do is to look back through the history books and try to guess who she might have surfaced as, and the blindingly obvious candidate is Myrabelle. He can't imagine, if so, that she's not holding a grudge.
Alfirin is apprehensive about the meeting with Lastwall's leadership. She hasn't openly met with people - besides Lilia - who know she's an evil archmage in decades, and she has to assume, having summoned Marit about it, that they know a great deal more than that. And she's going to have to keep a good working relationship with them for the remainder of this war because, while she'd love to be surprised, she really doesn't expect Asmodeus to stop at 'Arazni and a Duke of Hell'. She's also apprehensive about Cansellarion, who almost certainly suspects her prior identity now that she's acting openly.
"Alright," she says when she sees that everyone is assembled, "As I see it, there are a couple ways we could do this. I could keep spying on you, and on Cheliax, and intervening without warning you where I think I can do this without tipping my hand or putting myself at risk, and you can be constantly looking over your shoulders wondering if I'm lurking there, or we can do something less stupid than that. My price is my privacy. I want you to not dig into my affairs, to let me move on after the war without being monitored more than you'd monitor someone you don't know to be an archmage. If I use some secret magic I know to help you, I don't want you turning around and planning how to counter it if we come into conflict in the future. I don't want you telling other people about me. I want to not be worse-off for having revealed myself to you." Nevermind that she only did it thoughtlessly and accidentally.
This is sort of classically the kind of deal you are supposed to be able to make and hold to if you are Lastwall and only if you are Lastwall, the point of Lastwall being structured the way it is. It's complicated in practice, obviously. If you see someone running around leveraging holes in your security - if subordinates who don't have the whole picture see that - it takes a lot of skill to be attentive to how you had that information and not patch them. Iomedae did it routinely and warned that most people couldn't do it routinely. But they can do it for this. Probably.
...With an evil archmage you also of course have to worry that this is cover for an agreement which is wildly restrictive of them under circumstances she intends to bring about. It's not immediately obvious how it's that, but it's probably that. That worry is what you bring in lawyers for, though, and write something very very careful.
"To get a better sense of your request," Cansellarion asks, "Are you intending to operate against us during the course of this war? I think it might be difficult for us to pretend we didn't notice, if during the course of this war we find you - abducting Lastwall's citizens and torturing them, or something -"
She doesn't roll her eyes because that would be rude, and she's trying to be diplomatic. It's not that ridiculous a question to ask if they don't know very much about her, except insofar as someone in her position less inclined toward sincere cooperation against their common enemies could just lie.
"While we are openly allied I will not start new operations or plots aimed at harming Lastwall's direct interests. To the extent feasible I will abort or pause any ongoing operations and plots aimed at harming Lastwall's direct interests. I will not use resources you have provided me with in order to do things I believe that you would disapprove of unrelated to this war. If I am engaged in activities unrelated to this war which I believe you would disapprove of, or if I start any such activities, I will attempt to deprioritize them to the same extent that I would if I were not allied with you. I am not as good at that as Iomedae was. I will not start any new espionage targeted at Lastwall or at the Glorious Reclamation. If I have any existing information-gathering operations targeted at Lastwall or the Glorious Reclamation I will not actively advance them, though I also will not order them stopped; if I have any such operations which report back to me regularly I will keep taking reports. Is that satisfactory?"
"It sounds," Cansellarion says carefully, "like you intend not to start new operations targeting Lastwall's people and institutions, and like you don't intend to wind down ones that are ongoing without requiring maintenance. What about ongoing ones that require some maintenance - re-casting spells..." like dominate person, perhaps?
Marit's current read which he's not going to helpfully volunteer is that Alfirin is not in fact abducting and torturing anybody but absolutely refuses to admit this as relevant, or seek any kind of agreement of the sort that only exists between people who are mutually not doing any abducting and torturing.
…that's not a surprising way for Alfirin to turn out, really.
"So I'm just an old cavalry general and I'm not always sure I'm following conversations like this, can you just confirm that I've got this right - you're offering to help us out in the war against Hell, and to stop any hypothetical abduction of our citizens that you're doing for the duration of the war, and in exchange you want us to not take the help you're offering and use it to stab you in the back."
"It's not ridiculous to imagine I might want some of those things, but I would not demand them as the price for working together against our common enemy. And though I'm sure you'd try to pay me in diamonds, if we came to terms on that, I can't imagine you'd agree to an amnesty for past evils when you don't even know what those past evils are."
"I think the most important element is actually - if it looks to us like you are abusing this agreement to abuse our people while we are committed to not using our knowledge of you to respond, then is the agreement void? What clarification should we seek before we consider the agreement void? The lawyers cannot prevent you from breaking your word, but they can make it clear under what circumstances we'd be breaking ours, and lay out some degree of breaking-your-word where we're allowed to respond. While ensuring that this conclusion won't be arrived at accidentally if you are mostly keeping to what you've outlined here."
"Are we in this room the only parties to this agreement, or is there anyone else?" Cansellarion asks. "Clepati, who already knows who you are, for example, or Morgethai since a lot of the ways we'd most benefit from open cooperation involve multi-archmage operations… or anyone else who we should avoid investigating?"
"Did you have someone in mind for that last category?" Of course he does, he's thinking of Lilia. She sighs. "Look, Alex, you never would have killed me if I didn't want you to. I'm not holding a grudge. Thank you for making it quick. Leave Lilia alone, she's had a difficult time of late and you can't say she hasn't earned your forbearance."
Marit has absolutely no context on this. He doesn't know who Lilia is, can only guess who Alex is, and is gathering that Alex murdered Alfirin recently, which - good for him, really.
"I do not think I could have been one of Iomedae's paladins, while mortal. - I could now, but I am cheating, now."
"I was willing to work with her when I was suspicious, this doesn't change that much." He's not delighted about a deal where after the war he has to pretend he doesn't know Myrabelle's alive or where to find her, but it's not like he'd know that if they hadn't been negotiating this deal.
"It was necessarily the case that any deception good enough to convince the Asmodeans I was on their side would also convince you. I don't particularly regret it. It was clearly the right choice with the information I had available at the time, and even if I'd been much more careful I could not have predicted that you would acquire functional guns."
Alfirin makes sense to Marit, as a person. In this position he too would be irritated about being expected to actually say out loud "I was not really serving Asmodeus, I was really trying to stop Him", this being a sound you can make whether it's true or not; examining the incentives is a better argument. He nonetheless suspects that from a strategic perspective Alfirin would get more of what she wanted if she said "I wasn't working for Asmodeus, I was trying to take House Thrune down from the inside". "There's not a good angle on the inside?" he asks her quietly, rather than try giving her advice she doesn't want.
"Not enough of one. Obviously having worked it from the inside helps with taking it apart from the outside, but I couldn't find a way that would work to topple the Thrunes from the inside without making a pact with Asmodeus myself, which would rather defeat the point."
They don't work for him. He does not really want to hang around scolding them for everything he can possibly notice, and not noticing she might be lying is objectively more of a vice than noticing it and then immediately saying to her that you noticed it. "That's approximately the person I knew. I'd be surprised if she's undead because I'd expect it to have changed her more."
"There's enough at stake it's worth even expensively checking. But no. I expect she wants to fight Hell, or she'd be doing something else. Iomedae knew her better than anyone, and was right there, with something like a tenth of Her attention. I don't think She missed anything."
They've passed Nefreti's deadline and all is not lost; far from it, they now have three archmages instead of two. Cansellarion's army reaches the Tomarsulk with the main Chelish army too far east to contest the crossing or get between him and Egorain. According to his plans last week, he would've crossed the river and tried to lure the Chelish army into a fight on the plains of Chelam. He thinks he can do better, now. How does Morgethai feel about doing another teleportation circle to move his army north of Ostenso and clear out the Eastern army engaged on the border with Andoran?
Morgethai is very confused, but if Cansellarion thinks this will work she'll do it. (Andoran's border forts will…probably hold, with her dropping by to hit the Chelish attackers? But this will be a much better solution and means she's less tied down shortly.) Where does he want his army to be.
Does she know how much scouting the Chelish armies on the border are doing in their rear? He wants to be able to get the whole army through before they can get attack it with a sizable force, which might mean five miles behind the Chelish forts if the scouting is thorough or two if it's not.
Seems like one of those things. He's not going to bother her again about this operation, though, she didn't pipe up with any warnings when he asked her about the circles, and she seems to have limited patience for him and he doesn't want to spend that down when he might need it for warnings about bigger things.
They march through the teleportation circle and the extra two miles and straight into battle. It's not very different from a normal march into battle, apart from not being able to split up and take multiple roads until they're on the far side of the teleport. In some ways, it's simplifying.
They don't stand a chance. Guns are just a profoundly unfair advantage. Cansellarion's army has their first interaction with friendlies since they marched on Isger; when the Chelish are dead or fled men come streaming out of the border forts to greet them and marvel at the guns and ask if they need anything. (The political details of Andoran and Lastwall's alliance are still getting worked out, but it doesn't seem very complicated to Andoran's soldiers.)
The Reclamation requests more provisions to simplify their supply situation. And they've got some surrendered prisoners and nowhere good to put them. Apart from that - well, they're not going to be doing any more serious marching after the battle, today, but they're planning to go after the rest of the Chelish forces along the border tomorrow, if the local commanders have better maps or up-to-date information on the Chelish positions.
Their maps are notably better! They're in radio contact with the commanders at the other border forts, though nothing secret should be said over those lines, obviously, and they're happy to send along some local guides who know the terrain.
Also, Andoran's border forts have had a large garrison since the independence war ended and that means a large secondary population of people who keep soldiers supplied and laundered and happy - okay, a lot of prostitutes. Their allies should really make the most of the rest of their day off!
Cansellarion's officers are, on the whole, pretty uncomfortable with this!
The enlisted soldiers are more varied in their comfort levels.
The officers ban the prostitutes from the Reclamation camp.
The enlisted soldiers continue to have a mix of opinions about this but some of the opinions are now more extreme!
…Soldiers who are not currently on watch or other duties can visit the Andoren camp, but are advised to think long and hard about whether they want to tell their wives after the war that they have orphaned bastard children in Andoran.
Cansellarion is starting to worry. If they try enough times they'll eventually get someone essential, and they are getting people, and he suspects, now, that the wishes are coming from pit fiends, not diamonds. Which means - well, they're burning through Asmodeus' ability to act, and for no great effect. But it also means he has no bounds on when they're going to run out, if ever.
Halfway across Avistan, Alfirin isn't worrying nearly as much. She sends Cansellarion and Lastwall to make sure nobody got caught, and tell them to inform her immediately when the wishes get people. Even if they're not worth wishing back, she'd like to check what conditions they're being dropped in.
After a week of mostly good news from the front, progress in the reassembled workshop, and no things going in a dramatically unexpected fashion Iomedae's nerves settle a bit. She still has a habit of not going out of Alfirin's sight if she doesn't have to but she thinks she might be reorienting to the high stakes situation in a way that doesn't depend on 'things will be fine'. Freedom Radio reports that Razmir's attacked some more cities but is probably dead for good now, and reports the triumphs of the Glorious Reclamation army, and the news of the revolution in Ravounel, and the news of Galt’s invasion of Razmiran, and the news of a mob burning down the temple of Asmodeus and Lord-Mayor's residence and city hall in Pezzack. The latter is a little hard to comment on while abiding by Osirion's incitement to crime laws but she manages.
"I want to end today's broadcast with a - memorial, and a prayer, for everyone who has died in Cheliax's fight for freedom, and everyone who still will. It takes extraordinary courage, to look Asmodeus in the eye and say that He can't have your country. Everyone who rose in rebellion against House Thrune knew they might die for it, might go to Hell when they died, and they fought anyway, because there are things that matter that much, and this is one of them. I cannot pretend to comprehend their sacrifice. I haven't been to Hell, however much Abby keeps trying. But Cheliax will remember it. When we are rich, when we are free, we will save everyone we can, if it takes conquering all of Hell. We'd do it anyway, but we'll do it for you. You are not alone. The free country you are building knows its debt to you. There is a table in paradise laid out for you, whoever we have to fight to bring you to its gates.
And we're going to win."
Aberian Arvanxi, Lord-Mayor of Westcrown, is not an idiot, and he has been watching the army dance its way across half the country, and he rides out to parley, disguised mostly so Abrogail hopefully won't learn that he is negotiating the surrender of his city.
(The Hellknights of Citadel Rivad will send someone, as a matter of principle, but when Cheliax was invaded they agreed to defend it, they have orders to fight to the death, and they intend to do that.)
Cansellarion is willing to offer to send the garrison to the Worldwound if they surrender. In a different war he could take their weapons and their pledge not to rejoin the war, but that's not really an option here; House Thrune will attempt to force them back into service regardless. And he doesn't have the ability to hold them as prisoners. The wizards and officers, if they prefer not to go to the worldwound, can offer their parole, on the condition that they remain outside of Cheliax where it would be easy for them to be forced back into service. Or they can sit in prison cells until the war is over, there are few enough of them that that's feasible. Arvanxi and the rest of the city government will be removed from their positions but not otherwise prosecuted or persecuted.
The same offer is extended to the Hellknights, of course. If their Lictor has other proposed terms he would accept, Cansellarion is willing to hear them.
The Hellknights have orders from their monarch to defend Westcrown and the river. If the offer's not confidential they can ask if she would prefer they surrender so they can serve Cheliax at the Worldwound instead of dying here, but they do not expect it.
Arvanxi is a practical man. Not even Lawful Evil, he's just Neutral Evil. He's not ideologically Asmodean, he's ideologically in favor of Aberian Arvanxi. He's pretty sure sending Westcrown's garrison to the Worldwound is putting them to death but in a manner that may be elaborate enough the men don't revolt, and he's all in favor. The assurances he'd like are that he will be personally safe from Abrogail Thrune's revenge - he's thinking an overseas vacation, to Sothis - and that his property rights will be respected. He owns quite a lot of the city, see.
Cansellarion was under the impression that Hellknight orders asserted at least a nominal independence from the Crown. If they consider themselves bound by Abrogail's orders and cannot surrender, then he will unfortunately have to kill a great many of them.
The reclamation would be happy to provide Arvanxi with transportation to Sothis, though they cannot make any promises on behalf of the Pharaoh who is not even, technically, an ally. Cansellarion is also not willing to promise that Arvanxi will be allowed to continue to own all of his real estate, but he will be compensated for any that is seized, at five to seven parts in ten of the assessed value. His slaves will be freed. He'll be compensated for them at one part in ten.
No, Arvanxi's in fact going to play hardball about his compensation. He doesn't think Cansellarion wants to sack his city, and he's sure it'll cost him more than paying out the full assessed value of his real estate. They can tell people it's five parts in ten, if it's the precedent for other Chelish nobility Cansellarion's worried about, and if he gets the other half in gold right now. He'll be gracious about the slaves, he knows that paladins aren't very rational about that sort of thing.
(Most of the Hellknight orders in Cheliax assert varying degrees of independence from the Crown. The Order of the Rack was founded after the Chelish Civil War, runs the censorship apparatus, and is much much less so even under ordinary circumstances, and pledged themselves to the defense of their country when Citadel Dinyar was attacked and Cheliax then invaded.)
It is the precedent that Cansellarion is worried about, but paladins don't lie so he cannot pay Arvanxi half under the table and pretend he didn't. He will obviously go to some lengths to avoid an assault on Westcrown, but those lengths include trying to remove Arvanxi from his position and do not include paying him a truly massive amount of money in exchange for cooperation, especially when cooperation without compensation already leaves Arvanxi better-off than fighting.
Oh, come on, if the constraint is just that he can't lie that barely limits their options. Does Cansellarion have a friend who might donate some money to the cause of Arvanxi tolerating this patently unfair deal? Happen to want some relics of old Arodenite Westcrown which Arvanxi knows the location of? Want Citadel Rivad betrayed? There are a lot of ways to explain why money exchanged hands while passing any truth spell; as long as it's enough money, he's happy to arrange plenty of justification for him to have it.
Paladins don't engage in elaborate deceptions. If Arvanxi is offering more than just the surrender of the city they can negotiate that separately. If he remains in the city and doesn't surrender, the Glorious Reclamation will take the city, some of his property will be damaged and all of it will be seized without any compensation, and he'll most likely be killed in the fighting. If that happens he'll be safe from Abrogail, though, unless she's particularly mad at him and his trial is prolonged.
The fancy guns really seem like they'll be a lot less useful in house to house fighting; Cansellarion only has them grossly outclassed at range. It's odd that paladins are so stringent about not lying and so determined to steal things, but he'll tolerate the half-compensation for everything else if he gets to keep his manor and property in it.
Cansellarion is not in fact committed to seizing any of his real estate, he just doesn't want to commit to not seizing any of it. Cansellarion is willing to guarantee Arvanxi's manor and any property in the manor continuously from this moment until the city's occupation is complete, excepting property which is also people.
Cansellarion will give him twenty-four hours. He'll need the time to take Citadel Rivad anyways. He could do it with his army, but as Arvanxi noted his guns lose a lot of their advantages in close-range fighting. And they don't have siege guns. Are any of his archmages willing to deal with a fortress full of Hellknights for him?
In the morning, the earthquake shakes the ground beneath the citadel. Most of the superstructure holds; some of the floors give out, some hallways are blocked, some exits sealed. Alfirin boosts her spellpower with prayer beads and a ley line and some animal sacrifice and drops a pair of extended mythic cloudkills that should be strong enough that a pit fiend won't be able to dispel them. The clouds of death spill down the fortress' stairways, like normal cloudkills, pool briefly in the fortress' deeper levels, then rise up the stairs again to hunt down survivors.
The Hellknights of Citadel Rivad have of course prepared for this, but under a few key assumptions: the stationed pit fiends would be able to easily dispel them, or at least to with some difficulty dispel them; the interior stairwells would be unobstructed, so 'run up past the cloudkill before it kills you' would be viable for everyone who wasn't weak enough to die instantly, most people, being hardened veterans, wouldn't be weak enough to die instantly, and once one had run up past the cloudkill it would not be able to come back.
In a way, a cloudkill that breaks all of these assumptions at once is more dangerous than some spell they've never seen before; they think they know how to handle it, and they are dead before they realize otherwise. Some of the people in the fortress get Air Bubble or Delay Poison up in time, but not most of them. Priests give the men strength to overcome the poisonous fumes only to watch them drop dead anyway.
The pit fiends try to dispel the spell. It should really work. It should really work.
After the cloudkills have been at it for twenty minutes (They'll last almost an hour) Alfirin enters, invisible and mind blanked, to check for survivors. She expects to find devils, the cloudkills won't have affected them, and not very much else.
Then she can try to pick them off in isolation, hexing away their ability to resist and then trying to land a dire prophecy. When the dire prophecies land she follows up with a dominate that they won't resist. Pit fiends first, of course.
Westcrown surrenders at dawn. Most of the wizards want to go to the Worldwound, assuming they'll be sent with supplies to an allied fort that's below-strength because of the war and not just dropped in the wilderness somewhere technically at the Wound; they've been there before, know the rules, know the rules specifically prohibit having them all casually murdered, and it sounds less fake than 'you're free to go so long as you stay out of the country and the war'. Most of the officers want Absalom. Most of the population of Westcrown wants to survive the next two days and will huddle in their homes until someone lights their homes on fire or breaks down their doors.
Arvanxi orders the surrender and then has someone teleport him out to negotiate how much of his fortune the Abadarans will want to shelter him.
(It's most of it. They're not cheating him; sheltering Chelish officials is legitimately very expensive for them right now, for reasons they do not explain but which have to do with keeping them segregated from and unaware of the engineers they're also sheltering right now, and the other people frightened of Wishnaps from Cheliax they're also sheltering right now.)
"Second circle spells!! You're very impressive! And I think it's very important! Maybe you can get other people to do invisibility for you, but - the more easily we can walk away the better, really, even if at this point I'm convinced Lastwall's not secretly horrible. And it means we can get married when the war's over, that's very important."
Iomedae looks slightly baffled. " - well, I guess since we determined that we liked each other in a sleeping-together sort of way?" America taught her that two women could marry one another but it didn't teach her what marriage is, Taldor did that. And what she and Alfirin are doing is not keeping each other warm during long nights on campaign, it is building a life together, and it is a cowardly and selfish thing, to give a woman everything but your oath and have of her everything but hers. Everyone knows that.
"- I think it didn't seem like there was anything to say exactly? I'm sorry, I would've said something if I'd noticed it might be a thing we weren't on the same page about. …I think to me it feels irresponsible to go on for a long time with vague intentions of marriage and no proper oath, that's, like, the quintessentially irresponsible thing to do."
"Mmmm. And America would say that we are too young and that the respectable thing non-foolish people do is date for most of their twenties and then marry when they're already established. …it's true one ought to wait until established, but you are the wealthiest person in the world, that never felt like a thing that actually needed waiting for."
"I think it's at least partly about people being wiser when they're older. But you're right, it's not like we'll have any trouble supporting a household…so I can see why you decided to propose - as soon as it's theoretically possible for us to conceive - You do want children? I don't think we're going to have any by accident."
"...I think probably eventually but that it seems entirely reasonable to say we're too young for. Or, too busy for, and young enough we don't actually have to choose between having children while too busy for them and not having them at all.
But it being theoretically possible matters because - because the way everyone sees our relationship, right now, is as a - intense friendship, fundamentally, not as a thing with the character that marriage has. If we announced we meant to marry they'd humor us but they'd be humoring us.
But - if you can turn into a boy - my plan was always that when we were ready to marry, you would start turning into a boy sometimes when you had a reason, to lift heavy things or be a bit taller or test the fit of some armor - and I bet that the first time I kiss you while you are a boy, that very day, someone will say to me 'so do you intend to marry?'. Because - the relationship will suddenly and obviously have that character, to them, and I care about that."
"Oh. Well, if you've come up with a clever way to bypass the long arguments to convince everyone around us it's a real marriage I'm suddenly much more enthusiastic about doing it soon… I guess I must've also not wanted to pick that fight.
…Also, I was going to say, I'm not sure we technically could conceive, now. And I'd want the kids to be more - mine - which feels like a research project in itself. So I'm glad you don't want them yet."
Fervent nod. "I actually feel kind of strange on a bunch of levels about actually sleeping with you as a man and wouldn't really feel ready to even if we were to marry. My secret schemes were all using the fact that other people will know you could get me pregnant, not any actual doing so.
And yes, I don't want to pick the fight about whether it's a real marriage either, that sounds miserable, it's the kind of fight it's so much easier to get people to roll their eyes and go along about than to actually win, and it would - involve feeling like aliens and strangers again. The reason I liked my scheme was because it's - them being obliged to fit us into their worldview, instead of us trying to tug on it. …I'm very sorry, this was in fact a profoundly silly thing to just assume we would be on the same page about while never saying a word about it."
Cheliax is capable of learning from its mistakes. They break up their remaining forces so there’s nowhere Cansellarion can Teleport and be on top of a large share of them, and focus instead on high-magic raids to torch the Glorious Reclamation’s munition stores. They lose a lot of devils. They do not appear to care. There are more devils in Hell than paladins on Golarion and it increasingly seems like that might be the relevant comparison. They conduct more maledictions and executions of the Wishnapped generals and dissidents, trying to lure someone into a rescue attempt again. They do another Wishnapping with Lastwall’s leadership on the target list; It lands on Endel who is only saved by Alfirin promptly wishing him back. They call a Miracle to un-soul-trap Razmir.
The Reclamation knows about the permanent gate to Hell underneath Egorian. It was one of the many secrets Lilia gave up. Closing it might cut off the endless devil reinforcements The problem is, Hell knows that too, and probably knows that they know, or can at least guess they might have gotten the information from the captive pit fiends. It’s a well-guarded location, underground and covered by a forbiddance - Getting in will be difficult, retreating if the operation goes badly will be difficult, and the operation seems like a risky one with Razmir and at least five pit fiends available to the enemy. Nonetheless, it seems like if successful it could be the decisive operation of the war.
Feladriel Morgethai really does not like risky operations. Gallipsiwhoop is muttering something to her that no one else can hear. "Time Stop, Wish in, Disjunction?" she proposes. "You'll observe that it amounts to matching them for diamonds, and it does, but I'm not thinking of anything that doesn't which doesn't risk changing the fact we presently outmatch them for archmages."
"The gate is covered by antimagic fields presumably to prevent this exact thing. We'd need a way to remove them." Alfirin is not delighted about being here in a strategy meeting with everyone, but she's mind blanked and disguised as a Garundi man (She flipped a coin and rolled a die) and it's unlikely Morgethai will be able to learn anything more about her.
"One could conceivably, in a Time Stop, land some Disintegrates to get line of sight to the Gate, and then dispel it even though it's in an antimagic field, except that this requires one to be both a paladin and an archmage - and a powerful paladin, Gallipsiwhoop says he'd otherwise see if he can become one temporarily - and I think you're still looking at six, seven moments of spellcasting which it's a gamble if you'll get."
"I have heard it said," and seen it with her own eyes, but no need to tell Morgethai, "that Arazni could bring other people into a time stop with her. Some gods' miracles could briefly allow a spellcaster access to powerful spells like Arazni's that few have ever managed to replicate. Is Nethys one of those gods?"
"I can cast a variation on greater possession where I could possess you, and then return control of your body to you. We would have to test it, but I believe this might allow me to cast a time stop and have it affect you. And you could then attempt to dispel the gate… With a greater maximize rod, I can get you eleven moments across three time stops, which should suffice, I think?"
Manohar isn’t an idiot. There’s discussion of whether maybe Hell will send them an archfiend, at this point, but Hell objectively should not do that; single targets are what the enemy excels at. If you want to take their army down, you don’t want to use something extraordinarily powerful and dangerous that is possible to shoot at; it’ll just get shot at. You want to use something that one cannot answer with firepower.
He gets permission to sacrifice a couple thousand people to Deskari with shocking ease. Usually when he asks permission to sacrifice a couple thousand people he gets lectured about how his experiments are expensive and he should buy slaves like everyone else does.
Guns? No. But the plague was one of the enemies Alfirin and Iomedae were expecting to face on Golarion. Alfirin was not able to memorize all of pharmacology, but Tetracycline synthesis was an obvious choice, to cover the gaps in penicillin's effectiveness. Lastwall's been stockpiling the stuff for the next plague outbreak for almost a year now, and if they don't have enough for a regular widespread outbreak they have enough for the army and to supplement the clerics working in Andoran, and between Abadarans enticed by cold hard cash and Pharasmins ticked off about Tar-Baphon and foreign Good clerics who are... Good... and perfectly willing to go treat plague victims if someone else can arrange transportation, that's a lot more clerics than Manohar was probably expecting.
Also it won't do Andoran any good now but in a year or two if the swarms are still a problem they'll have DDT. She and Iomedae had originally decided learn how to synthesize it to kill all the mosquitos eventually, but she had already decided to accelerate the timeline so it could be used at the Worldwound, mixed with holy water. Because fuck you, Deskari.
Even if you could get their clones (and Alfirin has an idea of how to get their clones), Abrogail Thrune and Aspexia Rugatonn are hard to assassinate. The palace in Egorian is enormous, substantially Forbiddanced, substantially Teleport Trapped, substantially underground. Its staff are mindread and closely monitored. Much of the staff has permanent arcane sight and will notice magic items. People who shouldn’t have any spells up are routinely sent down hallways that dispel them. Both the Most High Priestess and Her Infernal Magistrix go around with guards, and both of them are very powerful in their own right and wearing spectacularly expensive bracers of armor, and no one can get into melee range of them unexpectedly without being murdered.
Cansellarion has four people in the palace in Egorian. They don’t tend to live very long, sometimes because they get caught and sometimes because the rate of murder of staffers not suspected of treason in the palace in Egorian is fairly high. They report via regular scries, during which they’ll hum lullabies and nod or shake their head in response to message questions. Three of them are people too weak for an alignment reading, in roles without much secure access and with less close surveillance; the fourth is a paladin of Iomedae's with an item that masks his alignement, who is allowed to haul heavy things to secure areas by virtue of being able to pass detect thoughts screening; he has fairly severe brain damage most of the time and is observably too stupid to be planning anything.
He smuggles two guns in, special ones carefully designed to look like a metal measuring tool with moving parts, needed for some construction. The guns aren’t magical; the bullets are, but they are in their lead-lined chamber, and won’t show up as such to anyone looking. When a voice says his mother’s name in his ear, he heals himself with Lay On Hands, and briefly remembers his purpose.
“We need you to shoot Aspexia Rugatonn. It will probably take two shots. There isn’t an exit plan. The other gun is for Nantes.”
He is not fearless by Iomedae’s power (someone could notice the auras, were he that powerful); he’s just, you know, the kind of person who’d do a job like this in the first place. He smiles broadly.
Felandriel Morgethai considers herself too dignified to do things like shout "why! won't! you ! die! already!" at her enemies but when they learn Razmir sacked Vellumis in a Time Stop again she is very seriously tempted. Instead she and Nefreti, with the magic item from the mysterious third archmage, chase him home, again. He's Mind Blanked but the thing Nefreti's using isn't precisely divination. It is, she says seriously, that it's been done before.
This time the plan is to dump him, beaten unconscious and then Baleful Polymorphed, in Nirvana and if Hell wants to try to retrieve him from there it won't be Golarion's problem.
The moment she's done with Abrogail, Catherine possesses Cansellarion. She casts her spells; a maximized time stop, a wish to bring them inside the forbiddance. A limited wish from her staff to destroy some of the intervening walls, and a second that she casts herself using Alex' blood to power it in place of a diamond to punch the rest of the way through. (He's a paladin. He has blood going spare.) She gives Alex back his hands to make his first attempt before she has to cast another time stop -
It's a little strange, being in a time stop. There's a pit fiend frozen in place almost within arm's reach. He can see two more by the gate… Second Alfirin said he'd have seven or eight moments, and while that should be plenty of time it won't be if he wastes it all staring. He raises Heart's Edge and wills it to unravel the gate. It goes down the first try.
"I have good news and bad news on the radio today. The bad news is that Abrogail Thrune is no longer among our listeners. The good news is that this is because the forces of the Glorious Reclamation trapped her soul and finished conquering her country. …really a lot more good news than bad news, there, I guess. Anyway, the fighting in Egorian is over, the fighting around Ostenso is over, the neutral arbitrators responsible for determining who is in charge of Cheliax for the sake of determining who has the command of its Worldwound forts has determined that it's Lord Marshal Cansellarion, and you might think there's not all that much more to do.
You'd be wrong, though. Nearly all of the work of our lives is still ahead of us. Cheliax is free, but it's poor, because Asmodeus impoverished it, and it's damaged, because Hell did everything in its power to rip up the traditions and habits and virtues that made a people stand up to him. The churches that ought to minister to the Chelish people have all been uprooted; the local leadership who ought to have advocated for them and served them are all avaricious idiots at best and tyrannical sadists at worst. It's going to be a long journey. But at least the part of it that's about killing each other at spectacular scale is mostly over. At least from here the way to move forward is by building.
I can tell you more of the truth, now, about where I’m from. I’m from Cheliax, from the archduchy of Menador, but when I was fifteen a magical accident picked me up and dropped me somewhere else. It says in The History And Future of Humanity that all of the stars in the sky are other suns like our sun, and about them are other worlds like our worlds, full of people both more and less alien than you would imagine; and it is on one of those worlds that I found myself, and saw the things that Golarion could grow up to be. I know that republics can work, I have seen a place where they do. I know how rich the world can get, and how fast the world can get that rich, and I’m going to see it done here, in our lifetimes, for the benefit of our children. It will take a million hands and a million minds and a million inventions, and we have them.
And I can tell you now about airplanes. On Earth, you see, the world I visited, there are no wizards and the gods empower no priests, and all their great beasts are long dead, and so you might think that people could not fly. But people want to fly; it’s in our nature. If the world doesn’t hand us the strength we invent it ourselves. They jump off cliffs with cloth wings - don’t do that - and rise in baskets powered by heated air - tune in next week if you want to learn how to do that.
Airplanes are built out of purely mechanical parts, there's no magic to them, and built well they can fly a Teleport's length in less than two hours, and fly across the oceans to the distant continents in six. I've been wanting to build them for ages, but while Hell had my homeland in its clutches other matters had to come first. But now, we're going to have airplanes. You'll see them in the sky sometimes, like a bird whose wings don't move, soaring eight miles up in the sky because the air's thinner there and that lets them travel faster.
Asmodean Cheliax could never have had airplanes, because they are a complicated endeavor that requires people to do a good job on hard complicated work that if it fails will fail only years later, and tyrannies do terribly at that; and because the building of them in the first place required madly ambitious and frankly silly people to spend all their time trying more and more elaborate ways to attach a motor to a wooden frame and try to make it go fast enough it'd stay in the air, and only free people have the nerve, and the creativity, and the conviction that it is their birthright and their destiny to soar through the skies.
Some people believe that the heavens are up in the skies above us. In a strict sense, this is false. No airplane can convey you to paradise. But in another sense, I think that this is true, because the voice inside you that cries out to try a thousand different ways to reach the heavens by your own strength is the voice that builds paradise and the one that carries us there.
I have seen the tops of clouds. I was not surrounded by wizards and nobles and important people; I was surrounded by crying babies, and tired parents, and dockworkers and bookkeepers, all of us paying a few weeks' wages to soar across the continent to wherever our missions carried us. The waitresses handed out aluminum cans of apple juice. Heaven's not up there, but at the same time, it kind of is.
I want to congratulate you, people of Cheliax, even if the only thing you did in the war was hide away and survive it, even if you served your evil queen until she met her evil end. You are free, now, and being free means it's your choice what to do from here. You can do profoundly stupid things with your freedom if you'd like. But you made it here, to this crossroads, and I'm glad for you, and I am eager to see what you choose to make of your lives from here, and I really do believe that most people choose goodness, and progress, and airplanes and blazing ambition, when they're free to choose at all."
"I cannot imagine you have accomplished everything you want, even if this was - a big thing."
(They've stirred up a bunch of hornet's nests, for one thing. It's hard to predict what the demon lords at the Worldwound will do when they see the writing on the wall, but probably not 'go quietly'. Arazni's back in play. Geb is back in play.)
(It's definitely that and not just that it would hurt to be useless.)
"Not everything I want, no." One thing she wants is for her daughters to be happy. She's not going to get that one. "I could still use someone watching Cheliax. And Lastwall. I don't think I will get the Chelish crown, but it may be worth trying for the First Citizenship or whatever they end up calling it."
See, that makes more sense. Lilia nods. "I will endeavor to get reoriented. If you're working openly with Cansellarion, is he going to trust me more? I'd like to take the opportunity to remove a bunch of people I particularly dislike who are going to try entrenching themselves, but I don't expect it to work if he'll only meet if I'm in chains and only trust a truth spell that he may at some point realize he shouldn't trust."
"He'll trust you more. I don't know if it'll be enough…No murders. I'm sure you realize that we must appear to be model citizens of the new regime." Alex will suspect they aren't but he's neatly tied up pretending he thinks she's just a Galtan swashbuckler. It hardly matters. At least in the short term, they'll be model citizens and Alex' suspicions wouldn't get him anywhere even if he could act on them.
Has her mother been spying on her in Vudra - probably primarily to check that she wasn't a Wish-kidnapping target. It would not be hard to learn about the murder because they put it on her tab.
"Of course. I intend only to check if other people are doing murders and report them if so to our wise and benevolent leadership. Does he know that Isarn was my warning? I'd been considering that my - currency, if the forces of Good ever did get their hands on me somehow."
Myrabelle hugs her. "It really could not have succeeded without you. There is nobody else in the world who could have done what you did for me, and nobody else in the world I would have trusted to do it. I may not be the best at showing it but I am proud of you."
Oh. Lilia is very very very good at controlling not just her expressions but the feelings that might produce them, or she'd probably be having some difficulty, right now. She leans into the hug. "You know I've never wanted anything else," she says, and she is not particularly a person who keeps track of whether things she is saying are true, when no one else could possibly tell, but she thinks that one is.
They return to their original workshop after the war. Alfirin's looking into land purchases and legal agreements in Andoran, and they're probably going to relocate there in the medium term, but it wouldn't be the kind of thing that happened overnight even if Andoran's government wasn't extremely busy with the emancipation of all of the slaves in Cheliax right now.
Iomedae wants to be the test pilot for the first flight of Golarion's first airplane, and when she makes this known no one objects, even though she kind of expected them to. Maybe she has successfully conveyed over the radio the glory and majesty of airplanes and they see why this is so important and agree she ought to have it, or maybe she's failed and so they don't see and are unwilling to wrestle her for it.
Either way it is a great occasion to indirectly get engaged to one's girlfriend. They have cleared a large flat area and have priests on hand in case it crashes horrendously, which she warned everyone that it might. They have gasoline engines, but not good ones. Obviously the chief engineer on the airplanes project would be on site personally to crank up the engines for the flight, and obviously that's easier to do if one is temporarily a handsome young man, and obviously Iomedae would lean out of the cockpit of her airplane and kiss her lover before she rolled out.
And obviously there's a sizable crowd.
The plane spends only three seconds in the air because the engine fails almost immediately, which is disappointing - she wanted to beat the Wright Brothers – but a useful result and still exciting to the crowd. The engineers rush over at once to figure out what went wrong with the engine and the second test flight, half an hour later, makes twenty four seconds. Iomedae leaps gleefully out of the plane when this latter flight lands and bounds over to Alfirin, presently a girl, and kisses her again.
"I would say that I just had a religious experience except that I've done that and it was really much worse."
"On Earth it was…I'm not sure, sixty, maybe eighty years," says Iomedae, "from the first flight to a world where millions of tons of cargo moved by air and the median American could afford to fly across the continent for vacation. It might be faster because we know some of what they got wrong, it might be slower because we have fewer of the prerequisites. I bet you could supply the Worldwound by plane inside a decade, if all the cleverest people in the world decide this is the coolest thing they could possibly do with their lives. And hopefully lots of them will."
"...I think they coordinated," says Iomedae consideringly. "I think they had a very panicked emergency meeting about this terrible situation and how best it should be approached and selected people, and if we hear from anyone else it'll be someone who wasn't in the emergency meeting. …I am going to tell Cansellarion we were troublemaking on purpose."
Really, she thought it was abundantly obvious that she and Iomedae were sleeping together, but she supposes in their eyes it maybe doesn't count.
"Well if that's the concern you should keep in mind that I'm Sarkorin-American, not an American by birth. I wasn't under the impression that I could marry her, on this planet."
Iomedae is reaping the consequences of her actions and she does not actually like it. The scheme is working perfectly but it turns out that having all the people you respect frustrated that you are being irresponsible and promiscuous is actually kind of upsetting.
"You expected me to have better judgment and to see the difference between having Alfirin as a lover openly six months ago and doing it now that she has Alter Self."
"I think I agree. It's too close to - treating people as sources of entertainment, too much risk of getting mixed up in your own head about what they can expect from you and why you're sure you can stand up to it.
I asked her to marry me during the war. - once it was over, obviously, and we were less busy. And she agreed, but - but no one would have known what we were saying, if we'd announced we were getting married. You would probably have humored us, but-"
"We planned it, because we didn't think we could - be easily understood to be married, otherwise, even if no one would have stopped us from making vows and saying we were.
I think you are right, that one shouldn't take a lover unseriously. But - there is no way, here, to say 'all right, so, I am doing it seriously.' It was unserious by definition until she could have the form of a man, because that's - the thing you can recognize is serious.
…I apologize if we missed some less disruptive way to get what we wanted." And doesn't apologize if they didn't.
"I don't know if there was a less disruptive way… I'm sorry. I am glad the two of you are being responsible. But even if you plan to marry, it seems potentially unwise. Not in the general case, but in your case... the Goddess Iomedae was involved with her Alfirin. She later considered it to be a mistake."
"I don't know - what they were to each other, what their society thought they were allowed to be to each other, when Alfirin decided to be an evil archmage. Mine isn't. Wouldn't be even if I decided to abandon her because the Good gods said so, though it would be a very terrible thing to do to her.
I think... there are different ways of learning from a person's mistakes. There's deciding you won't try to do what they failed at, or there's deciding you'll try to do it better. The Goddess didn't marry hers. I agreed already it's a mistake to have someone in your heart with no anchor in it."
She needs it, in the sense she needs leave to take additional vows while part of the order, though she doesn't need it in the sense that the year is nearly up and she doesn't have to remain in the order if she thinks it is a stupid order. Or just if she thinks that with the war over the shape her commitments should take is different.
"Thank you.
...The Chelish defector Nefreti said should be invited - was that evil maybe undead wizard Alfirin? Because I don't know if we want to invite her but it's a different kind of decision than inviting a random person because Nefreti said to."
"Ah, no. But for most young men - the weapon is a significant investment. Most men only have one sword, and it would be shameful to be disarmed because of backing out of a marriage. And it's a symbol of how he is pledging not to seek unnecessary danger, and when she returns the sword it signifies how he will be able to protect her and their family. Sometimes women give the swords, if they are warriors, though warrior women do not marry very often."
"I like it," says Iomedae, after a second to think. "...I am sure it must seem that I am a strange foreigner with complaints about everything but there are a lot of beautiful things here, and ones I am honored to be a part of. We will figure out how one adapts it for our circumstances."