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Cam as a reality show protagonist
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After the lecture hall, and the guy with the gun, and the worst possible headache, there's -

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cam wakes up on top of a made bed, in an airy room with square beams of wood stretching across the ceiling.  White linen curtains blow gently in a breeze, blocking the view out the window; the covers under him are made of the same material, and neatly made.  He's dressed in the least uncomfortable suit he's ever worn, complete with well-shined black shoes.  If he checks, the spot of duvet under where his feet were is lightly dented from the heel but completely clean of dirt.

The walls are white plaster above wainscotting in wood, a few shades darker than that of the ceiling and floor, except where they're instead a door in the same material.

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He's... alive?

...this is not a hospital room. Or a hospital gown. Or a hospital smell. Or a hospital headache, he has no headache at all.

Weird coma dream? Seems likeliest. He sits up. Looks in the direction of the window in case the curtains are about to swoosh aside to reveal something.

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Nope!  They do look plenty movable, if he feels like getting up.

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Sure, why not. He gets up and heads for the window. What's out there, coma dream?

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White void!  He can't spot any imperfections showing it to be made of a specific material, but whatever building he's in is casting a diffuse shadow on the.... ground?  Floor?  Bottom - of it.

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Wow that's such a boring choice, His Subconscious. If he sticks his head out can he see adjacent windows or anything?

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Well, there's a screen in the way.  (Made of tiny hexagons instead of squares.)

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To keep out all the many bugs in the white void, he presumes.

Okay. Does the door also lead to a white void?

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Nope!  It leads to a living room with a similar but not identical decor scheme.  Couches, coffee table, another guy in a suit.

He waves.  "Hi, Cam.  How are you feeling?"

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"Comatose. And you are?

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"No, that was a few minutes ago.  Journey Carison, pleased to make your acquaintance."  He holds out his hand for a shake.

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Sure, Cam will shake. "And you clearly already know who I am." Because of being a figment of his imagination.

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"Mm-hm.  Care for anything to drink, or should I cut right to the explanations?"

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"You wanna conjure up a pineapple juice out of nowhere?"

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"Not quite out of nowhere."  He holds out a hand and a glass appears in it, slower and with more sparkles than demon conjurations tend to have.  Cam can watch the material spiral up into solidity and then fill with, presumably, pineapple juice.

Journey passes it to him.  "Production's just prepping it in time dilation and beaming it in.  - Perhaps you'd like to sit down."

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Sure. He will sit down. "Sparkles. Really."

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"Really.  That's the teleportation mechanic we've got a sponsorship deal with this season; you don't get to pick something else even though you do have a fair amount of steering power over some aspects of the aesthetics."

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"I am not optimistic that staring at a notebook for three hours will explain the symbology here."

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"No, probably not at this stage.  Would you prefer I start with the historical, cultural, or cosmological explanation?"

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"The historical cultural or cosmological explanation of what."

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"What you're doing here."

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"Hit me with the cosmos."

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"So, you died.  Condolences.  But, good news!  My employers nabbed you out of the hands of death - not literally, there's no such entity as Death, where you're from - and brought you to this pocket dimension.  It's associated with the Cypress Realitary Coalition, which is an organization that facilitates trade and travel between several hundred universes.  Lotta different kinds of magic and technology at play, here.  If things go as planned, you'll leave here with access to substantial power in both."

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"This recasts some of your earlier remarks in a more ominous light."

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"Oh, which?"

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"'Production' and 'sponsorship' in particular."

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"Let's do cultural next, then.  Have you heard of The Bachelor?"

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"The... Bachelor.

"The reality show about marrying a stranger under performative conditions."

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"That's the one!"

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"I'm not going to like where you're going with this."

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"You might like it more than going back to being dead."

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"I like a lot of things more than being dead, and yet."

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"Quite.  Anyway, it's called the Bacheloret now," (pronounced with an 'ay' sound) "that's E-T at the end - ever since they stopped keeping strict contestant gender sorting.  You're slated for season ten-twenty.  Not that the CRC's anywhere close to a thousand years old, but we're popular enough to get the resources to really pump out the seasons.  Time dilation, like I said, that sort of thing."

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"What possible kind of viewer demographic is implied here?"

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"More women than men; more people who were middle-aged when their 'verses joined the CRC, or who continued to age that far, than young or psychologically-young people; much more lasting viewers from universes with an existing cultural niche for reality TV than those from lower tech levels, although we do have a sizable minority of people who watch a few seasons when it's recommended to them by new CRC friends as cultural onboarding."

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"For comparison would you say that daeva tend to remain 'psychologically young'?"

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"I would."

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"And none of these people think it's sketch to recruit this way? - what is 'this way', people die all the time, there's more than a thousand and twenty of them to sift through even if you prefer twentysomething singles."

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"One, we're a television show, not a charitable organization.  There are a lot of organizations working to save people; we're here to create entertainment.  You're welcome to go back home and try your chances that someone else will come for you later; we're not going to stop them, although my employers did pick a 'verse cluster that's a bit off the beaten path.  Two, the contestant pool is all people from the brink of death, so it'd be a lot more than a thousand and twenty except that, two and a half, this season's unusual for selecting its participants in this way.  It's being styled 'Swansong'; it's funny, see.  And three, there are many more dead people than there are dead people who've done anything as bombastic as revelation."

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"That was anonymous."

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"Not sufficiently so to keep that guy from shooting you about it."

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"Touché. Circling back to the sketchiness, I think that, under the prevailing moral and legal regime I'm familiar with which obviously needn't much resemble this one, there would be some pressure to avoid anything structurally shaped like obliging people to work for you under threat of death, even if you weren't behind the original trigger? Like, someone would make a fuss about it if reality shows on my planet were populated with impoverished diabetics from rural India who had to show up and please the studio to get insulin, or whatever, even if nobody would have batted an eye about leaving them whence they came and even if there was no realistic prospect of Doctors Without Borders showing up to save the day. Is this just a really different PR situation or what?"

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"Mm."  He clears his throat and holds out his hand; a teacup manifests the same way Cam's juice did.  He takes a sip.  "I would argue there's a continuous scale from, say, gladiatorial combat, to what you describe, to what's going on here - strictly in terms of optics and aesthetics, you understand - to contestants on regular game shows who need to win large amounts of money to pay for care for some large medical expense, to those who want money to build a better life for their children - all the way up to shows about people with lives of privilege and no real problems."  Sip.  "I think your society is closer to something that would largely enjoy this sort of programming than you seem to believe.  ...But also there are networks which do just air gladiatorial combat.  One imagines that tips the balance some."

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"Oh, I'm sure people would watch this, I just think there are also people who'd fuss and anyone who hadn't bought enough Girl Scout cookies recently to feel like a good person would sign their petition." He swigs his juice. "I assume the gladiators come up not because you're about to tell me that in this amazing resurrection-capable multiverse some people just really like being gladiators and sign right up and plan to be home in time for dinner after dying twice? They're snatching 'em?"

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"Without behind-the-scenes knowledge of the practices of these shows beyond what they release as bonus content, I think most contestants are either resurrected or suicidal.  And more often in some sort of dire strait than kidnapped per se."

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"Uh-huh. So what is the minimum viable amount of bachelor-ing demanded of me for Not Dying."

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"Why don't you start by telling us a bit about what qualities you'd like in a partner?"

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"That's not really an answer to the question I asked, and I would prefer to answer it while equipped with an answer to the question I asked."

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"Sure.  It doesn't matter how much you snark to us; none of that has to make it into the final show.  It gets a little complicated if you get snide in front of the contestants and we'd really prefer you didn't.  But as long as there's enough footage to cut together into a proper narrative, you're pretty much fine.  And we're very willing to work with you on that!  As long as you're notionally on board and cooperating, we're not going to chuck you back into the void."

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"Do the contestants wake up in places like this, get explanations like this?"

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"Approximately.  So far the information you're getting has not diverged very far from what they will, accounting for the inherent differences in being a protagonist versus a contestant and that I generally let people guide the conversation rather than laying everything out in one overwhelming initial package."

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"A 'protagonist'."

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"Central character.  Harem holder.  Bacheloret.  The guy everyone's rooting for."

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"But like, rooting for in the sense that they are excited for me to marry my very favorite stranger."

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"They won't be strangers by the time you're marrying one!"

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"I suppose in the optimistic case it is not completely out of the question that you could find me a prospective spouse I can, somehow, get to know to an adequate standard, within the confines of the television show, while not allowed to be too sarcastic in front of them, but that last thing is a stretch even if I make very generous assumptions about how you find people."

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"...Perhaps this is where I introduce the concept of alts.  Alternate universe versions of the same people."

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"...okay, I guess if you're - descended from a show like the Bachelor that exists on my planet then that implies a lot of other similarities hold some of which would be hard to keep constant without duplicate, uh, Noahs Webster and Georges Washington? What does that have to do with - I guess you can set me up with another one of me, the rigmarole of the TV show remains annoying but sure, I'll marry me."

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"We haven't been cleared for any other Bells, it'd make things too complicated.  But their existence does mean we can know a fair bit about you without having violated your privacy, and that includes what sort of people you might do well with."

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"Other... Bells. There's a name for mes, and it isn't 'Cams', and you know this name. What are they up to?"

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"A couple of them are empresses of a or a couple planets.  Some of them are probably trying to bootstrap themselves into power.  More are probably somewhere in between those."

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"Uh... huh. And these people have partners they're fond of and your plan is to dig up their 'alts' and present them to me via this show?"

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"For at least some of the pool, yes."

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"What, then, is the object of asking me what I'd be looking for?"

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"Well as I said, that's only some of them.  And even if it were all of them, there are more potentials than slots.  ...And it's polite."

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"It's sort of strange to be worrying about what's polite in this context but okay. - what is going to happen to the ones I do not wind up marrying? Actually, do I in fact have to marry one, or can I just declare someone the winner at the appropriate time and let the audience draw their own conclusions."

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"The finale involves a proposal; about a quarter of seasons lead to wedding specials.  Rejected contestants are generally kept in stasis until the season airs, then released into the CRC with enough resources to keep them comfortable until they can get their feet under them.  And they keep any power upgrades they received over the course of the season."

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"There are... power upgrades? This is a combination courtship and video game levelup simulation show?"

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"Well, usually.  The normal mechanism has it paired with mind control, though, so we're still working out something for this season."

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"Are you. How's that going."

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"Still working out the balancing, but I think it'll go fine."

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"I would like more details."

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"Normally, the roses given out at the end of the episode - except Clarity Roses, which are how the protagonist signals rejection - give the recipient some sort of power boost and also enforce them falling more deeply in love with the Bacheloret."

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"The standard of care here is to make people, plural, who are participating under threat of death, fall in love with me artificially, to make it more fun for your morally bankrupt viewers to watch me settle on only one of them, and then get ostensibly engaged and plausibly also not marry them either."

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"This is the only season where we're selecting contestants in this way, I reiterate."

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"Oh, what do you usually threaten 'em with?"

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"Oh, nothing!  The mind control is sufficient."

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"Does that come before or after they are recruited and with or without informed consent?"

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"Varies."

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"Charming."

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"Mm-hm.  I would presumably mind this if I," he clicks his tongue, "could."

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"Nobody above you in the org chart is worried about Empress Belladonna or whatever coming after their ass?"

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"Ehn.  Yous are pretty nice even to people they're stopping."

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"...so they're fine with it because it will not involve a thousand years in an oubliette?"

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"I was being flippant; I'm not actually a party to those sorts of decisions."

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"Uh-huh. What are the inputs into how this season is conducted?"

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"I confess to having done a substantial amount of the steering, here.  With oversight."

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"And?"

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"I shouldn't share too many details."

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"My willingness to do this instead of being dead and waiting for the tender mercies of Empress Belladonna may, actually, hinge on assurances to the effect that I am not personally selecting mind control victims for Those Assholes. Like there are other factors here but it is the sort of thing that could tip the balance."

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"Does this include mind control put in place to counteract peripheral effects of previous, fatal mind control?"

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"Maybe not if you explain it."

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"Maybe later, if we in fact decide to cast him."  Shrug.  "And if we promise not to mind control contestants that were chosen based on speaking with you?"

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"Like, anybody you're throwing in because they come with a sweet advertising deal or because you do not fear Empress Belladonna getting your ass for fucking with her husband's alt is still fair game, but anyone you put in because they might get along with me based on things I say here and now would be immune? That's not really what I meant, my understanding of the structure of the show - though correct me if I'm wrong, since I cannot understate how very, very much I have never watched The fucking Bachelor - is that I get to screen people, like a, I don't know how exactly, a bracket tournament or something. And I do not really care for a situation wherein, and think it will in fact make your show worse at its ostensible purpose if, I have to balance who I would want to win on their merits - maybe Empress Belladonna's husband's alt is great - versus who I most especially emphatically want you to leave the fuck alone."

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"...Let's pick things apart, here.  Normally, there's a starting set of contestants.  You have some influence over this, although the producers will still be picking out, for example: people who have traits they expect you to like but which you didn't mention, gold diggers, people into being here for the fame or the power, villains, and audience surrogates.  You will learn the identities of these people when they emerge from their limousines in the first episode of the show, and not before.  With me so far?"

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"I follow, yeah."

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"The pace of the show is dictated through rose ceremonies, where you'll receive a number of roses that match the number of remaining contestants, and allocate them.  They have different effects depending on their color.  Clear ones eliminate a contestant from the show, as I said before.  Normally, the majority are Red Roses, which give both a power increase and a psychological effect, or other colors which work similarly.  But!  Crucially, I've already gotten the producers to agree that that style isn't in theme with this season.  New set of mind-control-free roses, in the process of being designed."

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"It must be so hard to design mind-control-free roses since the common or garden variety is so insidious in this way."

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"You'd be surprised!  - Kidding, I'm kidding.  Anyway, producers are not very sold on leaving out all forms of initial brain tweaking, even if they abstain from it once things get rolling.  Care to elaborate on the nature and level of your objections there?"

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"What, has Empress Belladonna not published a manifesto, shape up, Empress Belladonna - okay. If somebody is assenting to appear on the show because that is how they can afford your miracle cure for the depression that attempted to end their life, and they get it gratis for agreeing to appear, in the form and manner they expect, that's chill, or, like, as chill as any form of operating this exploitative foolishness was ever likely to be. If somebody is... a lesbian, and would therefore not normally suit the conceit of the season, but you really want her on there for stupid television reasons, so you apply magic conversion therapy, I could imagine my reaction to this depending a lot on her relationship to her original sexuality such that by default it would be a no-go-fuck-you-all sort of deal, but you could conceivably find the exact most mollifying lesbian in the multiverse to do this to if I had enough of her story to be reasonably confident of that. If you do something more gratuitous than that, like making people fall in love with me or bark like a chicken whenever they see a banana or - I do not know what reality TV consumers think is fun when there's magic available, hopefully I have defined a couple corners of this doubtless multidimensional region of horrors? - then no go. I'm being fairly strict here because I'm not aware of any specific reason you couldn't be mind-controlling me so in the world where that has been ruled out I wish to play for something loosely resembling a Halloween costume that was intended to represent the concept of adequacy rather than fall over myself to compromise prematurely."

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Journey nods.  "How do you feel about uncoerced alt permission as a standard for things you haven't ruled out?"

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"My alts or theirs?"

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"Theirs."

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"See, I feel like I'm able to extrapolate quite a lot about how the benevolent Empress and I would get along if we met, but I could be wrong about that, let alone about whether it's remotely normal if accurate."

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"We'll check whether we can scrounge one up for you to have a chat with, shall we?"  He snaps his fingers in signal to the room.

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"Again, mine or somebody else's."

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"Yours, this time, for calibration.  Many people are pretty dissimilar from some of their alts, but it would be good to know whether you thought it might ever be sufficient."

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"I would be delighted to meet one of my alts; it would help a lot if they are themself background aware of alts existing and can be expected to have more than wild fabrications on how that works."

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"I know you would; I'll see what I can do.  Care to elaborate on the sexuality-adjusting standards?  Does it matter to you if we're making them bisexual instead, if we're expanding their gender-based attraction in a direction with less baggage than ones conversion therapy was typically used for, if we're narrowing it instead, if we're decreasing their inclination toward polyamory, if we're adjusting it along lines that are not so broad as gender..."

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"Making them strictly more - I'm not coming up with a better word than 'permissive' but it doesn't have the right connotations - is better than doing anything that would, like, replace or recontextualize their past attraction, but still sketch. I have no idea what the cultures you're drawing from look like, baggage-wise, the tradition on my planet of attempted conversion therapy informs but does not constrain my outlook here. I... don't have a cached opinion on how strongly exactly I feel about leaving people's inclinations to polyamory alone... but the 'it's worse if it replaces or recontextualizes something that has actually come up for the person in the past' thing remains, like, if you're kidnapping people with three girlfriends that's worse both because they're being kidnapped away from more preexisting attachments and because they will be less able to cleanly reintegrate therewith after we all go home. If you have people who... dislike my eye color, or who are... taller than me and really do not want to date people shorter than them, or something... that seems probably less sensitive than either the gender or the polyamory thing but I reiterate that I really do not like any of what is going on here besides the part where I am not dead."

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"It may reassure you to know that for narrative reasons we don't ever break up existing relationships to bring people on the show.  Though sometimes people have left their partners and signed up when they saw the bacheloret; that happened even back when we were constrained to one planet."

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"Can you put out a PSA that I find that really unattractive."

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"Absolutely.  How do you feel about personalities constructed from the ground up without altering any existing person?"

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"That's the sort of thing I would probably trust a really careful non-sketchy person with doing!"

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"If one had already been created, would you object to her being on your season?"

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"This seems like it probably has weird incentive implications but I am probably not in a good enough negotiating position to play hardball about those so I guess y'all can go for it."

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"Anything else you feel like mentioning at this time that you find unattractive?"

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"Uh, contestants should be psychologically of age, I can get over it if your created person was created last June as long as she doesn't act like it. Full-throated naturally-occurring defense of this operation is disqualifying. I assume you pick generally telegenic people and I don't think I have weird appearance preferences particularly..."

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"Upper limit on age?"  But he sounds weirdly like he's telling a joke.

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"...not inherently?"

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"Got it."

- He puts a hand to the side of his head as if to touch an earpiece, but there's not one visible there.  "Oh, they found an alt for you to consult with."

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"That was either fast or agonizingly slow, I'm not sure what dilation factor they're working with here."

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"Fast, I think."  He looks to the hallway Cam came out of.

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She looks about thirteen and malnourished and not particularly well-dressed, but she does pretty strongly resemble Renée apart from how she's making Cam's facial expressions! "Hi! I'm Shell Bell."

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"It rhymes," he says, nonplussed. "I'm Cam."

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"Shells count as currency in this interdimensional bar that sometimes lets me into it so I act weird and superstitious about leaving huge bags of shells near any door I regularly use and it stuck. This is actually the first time I've met one of my alts but I've been recognized before, in the bar."

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"As - one who looks like you instead of like me?"

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"Yeah, exactly. Anyway these folks are paying me to explain alts to you."

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"Yeah, what are they paying?"

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"They put an amount on my interdimensional bar tab which will cover my meals for about six months. I don't eat great when I'm at home and I'm concerned that if I rack up debt at the bar the doors may stop appearing."

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"They're lowballing the shit out of you."

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"That's not terribly surprising, they also didn't wanna put me on another planet instead of back where they found me, it's still something and this is not an onerous task."

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"So alts."

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"Alts! That thing that means once in a while somebody will spot me and call me 'your majesty'! Different for different people but insofar as this is the thing I do reading on - it's not my only focus, my general education at home is also bad - it's pretty much like you'd expect for us."

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"I have been asked how usefully I will interpret alt consent to mental alterations that the powers that be want to impose on some people to put on a television show th- you have a television related problem?"

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"I have a television related problem, come get me when you're done with whatever this is."

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"I am become Empress Belladonna," he mutters. "Yeah. Consider it on the to-do list if I can find you. This shitty but not, apparently, that shitty, television show, which is about people competing to marry me, because for some reason people's taste in entertainment defies rational explanation. How useful is it if they don't wanna warn the principal but can find an alt of the principal who says 'go nuts'?"

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"It's better than nothing. It is not amazing. What kind of mental alterations are we talking about?"

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"Troublingly nonspecific ones, most of the really detailed examples have come from my end." He looks at Journey.

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"Well, there's the guy who's going to die as a result of separate mind control.  He's from a world where people get powers that come with horrible side effects, with a week of the side effects frontloaded.  Got too paranoid, thinks he's in a simulation and all forms of sustenance available to him are poisonous.  Even if we paused the effect, he'd get caught in some nasty spirals unless we beamed direct assurance into his brain that things here are as real as they are."

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"I can see why you would have that problem with your credibility as a sketchy kidnappy mind-control-supported reality show, I am still considering the 'coma dream' hypothesis personally. How do you know he'd get into non-horrible-side-effect based spirals without additional pushing?"

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"Oh, I'm one of him.  Don't worry, we're not counting me for uncoerced alt consent."

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"Good, that would call the standards for that into serious question."

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"...what'd they do to you?"

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"I have had substantially more mental alteration than Cam would prefer in his suitors."

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"The amount of mental alteration I would prefer in my suitors is zero by default but apparently there are more things in heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in my philosophy, so. You are allowed to cure exogenous magical paranoia in approximately the same spirit you are allowed to snatch people from the jaws of death wherein I mistrust the hell out of your motives and spin but cannot fault the object level fact of the matter. Can you like, ask this guy, after you cure the exogenous magical paranoia, if he is okay with the anti-spiral thing you have in mind."

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"I'm not sure it'll help?  If he's at any point in a spiral he's going to go fawningly along with whatever he thinks will leave him untortured, I expect."

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"Observing the form is still - polite, and can be observed to have been polite in retrospect, even if it doesn't make a practical difference and even if you know that because he's a you."

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"Sure.  It seems crueler than letting him wake up with it already in place, but if you really want that I don't expect it to much affect the show."

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"Can you explain how from a you's perspective it seems crueler? Like, long term. I do note that you have suggested it involves him spending some period of time thinking he's in a torture-enabled situation."

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"The planned adjustment doesn't protect him from considering whether he might be in a torture simulation, just from believing it on an emotional level.  And given that he's reasonably likely to keep coming back to the question for a long time, it seems like letting him experience a difference in what he's capable of believing might push him further into doubt and - prolong his recovery.  ...Mm, and - I expect he'd find it reassuring to be presented up front with something claiming to be as 'sketchy' as we are, rather than something superficially nicer that still has underlying sketchy aspects and might, in his mind, get worse at any time.  If there's a discrete set of alterations that all happened before he woke up, it's more believable that we won't be asking him for additional changes later."

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"...I guess I can see that..." He glances at Shell Bell.

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"You have a third template member lined up to confirm? - how are you finding them, how did you find me -"

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"Eliding over some details for spoilers reasons, there exist some of me who are extremely powerful though strangely-targeted psychics.  But part of that strangeness is that they're especially powerful and knowledgeable when it comes to things like certain sets of alts."

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"Spoilers reasons. Is that the kind of thing that sounds like it might as well happen, Shell Bell?"

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"It's not unheard of for there to be particular common exotic powers in a template - we have those, actually, though I don't have my own and I think neither have you, but lots of us wind up immune to sketchy brain stuff one way or another. So yeah, that might as well happen."

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"I do not have my own of that. I am relying on the spotty and irregular goodness of my benefactors' hearts. I think that described example meets my slightly compromised standards and you can do the alt consent thing for that guy. Is that the only one you have in mind?"

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"It isn't.  But first: Shell Bell, can I get you anything?  Food or drink?"

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"Love some, whatever the house recommends," she says with an ironic little gesture.

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Fingersnap, and the coffee table starts (sparkily) filling with dishes.  She has her pick of fancily-presented chicken and pasta and fish and pie, a few bottles of liquids, and a stack of plates and glasses to serve them with.

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Not fish, thanks. Omnomnomnom.

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"Second, there's a set of alts who are really into, let's say, beings different from themselves and becoming different from how they started.  Xenophilia.  If we brought any on, by default they'd fall in love with the entire contestant pool simultaneously."

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"...is this one going to be an alien? So as to be a different species from me and the entire rest of the contestant pool."

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"Certainly we're not going to apply useless mental constraints," he smiles.  "This season.  Anyway, if you were to ask pretty much any one of them, 'Should we temporarily limit your alt's attraction in order to set them up with someone above this threshold of alienness to them?', they would say yes basically immediately."

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"That doesn't actually explain how Cam and the entire contestant pool go about being alien enough."

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"It really doesn't! And you can't guarantee the setup because I get to hand out the roses and have no idea if I like this sort of person upon getting to know them. In this deranged performative social context which I think will probably warp my opinion on everyone I meet in it."

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"Well, if it's temporary they could run off with another contestant afterwards, maybe?"

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"I didn't say 'set stably up'.  And yes, in the past their eliminated members have been fairly ecstatic to have access to the multiverse afterwards, whether or not they then get together with other people from the show."

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"Do any of these people write, like, retrospectives, I didn't realize you were re-using specific templates as contestants though now that you mention it it does make sense."

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"Retrospectives exist, though more often in audiovisual formats than written ones.  The vast majority of people in the multiverse aren't members of any template, and alts tend to be much more popular here than singlets, so yes, we tend to cast mostly those."

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"A retrospective, maybe a couple from the same template, would help me feel more confident here, but it seems plausible that this example too is all right considering."

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"There's also the matter of one who suffered from a prolonged decline before his death, though that's a question more of brain alteration than mind."

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"I think I'm okay with youthening people including when they had age-related brain problems without even particularly many caveats."

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"No, he died when he was 17; nanos shenanigans.  And we can't per se roll him back to before the brain damage without losing the memories from everything after that point."

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"That is a weird limitation for you to have but I guess it's not impossible. If his alts do not expect him to be really attached to his nanobot related issues or something I think I am okay with you fixing them. ...seventeen is a little young for me. Only a little, but, like, flagging that."

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"Well, we could also convert him to a species that relies less on its brain to function, or we could pop in a bunch of fresh neurons and give him a couple months of physical therapy and general recovery time."

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"The snippets I'm getting of the available capabilities here are fascinating. Do I have to be on for the camera like all my waking hours just in case the producers want to cut together some kind of montage about my downtime, or do I get to investigate your internet... I am willing to go with alt consent for which of those two things you do but do not guarantee this extends to other things that have gone unmentioned."

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"Convenient you should mention that.  You should assume that every space is to some degree nonprivate except," he points to a door and it opens, revealing an opaque field of gently-swirling purple, "ones that look like that."

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"It's so purple. Is it also purple inside? Seems like it'd obstruct visibility."

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"You can go check, if you'd like."

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"Are you always like this about being asked straightforward questions or is that a mind control thing?" Cam asks, but he gets up and goes to have a look.

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If there's a response, he can't make it out from the other side of the barrier.

He's in a comfortably furnished small room.  Desk, chair, daybed, empty bookshelf, fireplace.  There's a cordless lamp, a stack of slightly fancy notebooks, and a cup with writing utensils on the desk.  Indeed pretty purple, but in a normal decoration way, with gold and silver accents.

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He doesn't really like purple but he has other shit to quibble about.

They have obviously been stalking him. The notebooks being froofy could mean that they have been slightly less thorough about stalking him, or that they've been very thorough about stalking him and also Empress Belladonna. ...or just Shell Bell, who has less she can do about being stalked.

He comes back out again. "Cool. Someone's gonna need to tell me how to work the fireplace."

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"The fireplace?"

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"The room is supposed to be private but things, such as me, can exit it, so I'm gonna wanna periodically set my notes on fire."

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"- oh, you do them in writing, that makes sense. I've got an audio recorder doodad, I spend a lot of time near water and stuff and it's waterproof and locked to just me."

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"...huh! Do you know which is commoner?"

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"Does not tend to be enough of a public feature to make it into biographies, but I'm guessing you're the normal one."

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"Mm, so actually, you're the only one who can go in there.  I think the fireplace was a holdover from before we had an expected way to verify this to you, though my understanding now is that Shell Bell might be willing to help us with that?  - To answer your previous question, I don't have any memories from before this job.  Probably I was somewhat inclined toward answering questions like this but then got moreso."

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"Jesus Christ, man. Empress Belladonna had better clear her schedule or have a very compelling Powerpoint presentation," mutters Cam. "Shell Bell, you have some kind of... verificationy thing?"

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"Yeah - sometimes people pay me in stuff like my audio recorder instead of or in addition to money for my consulting services. I have a doodad that... has limited charges, it recharges on its own but we can't do more than one or maybe two things soon, but if somebody tells it something, and they ought to know and they're telling the truth, it'll repeat it back, and if they're lying or could easily be wrong it'll just kinda eat it. Which unfortunately does not make it recharge any faster, maybe 'eat' is the wrong word."

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"And I expect the show to be much better if you have the chance to do proper processing, so I'm invested in you having correct beliefs about the security here."

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"Sounds like if it's not the case that you ought reasonably to know, such as because you have been horrifically mind controlled, the doodad will not be reassuring about what you have to say, is there someone else we should be introduced to here?"

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"We can get someone else if you'd like, but that's not really the flavor going on here."

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"The flavor."

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"My ends are the production's.  I'm not being deceived about things that would make me worse at pursuing those."

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"And they know how her doodad works?"

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"Apparently."

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"Well, it would sure be inconvenient if it turns out they don't know what they're doing and being comprehensively mentally tampered with about too many things makes you incapable of saying stuff the doodad likes, but if you're sure! What are you going to tell it? It's no good if you say something and then we're like 'hey wait a second there's a loophole' and it turns out it doesn't recharge faster in dilation."

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"'There is a magical effect which can be applied to a space.  This effect prevents anyone except people designated at its creation from entering that space, and renders the space safe from all known forms of scrying and observation.  The number of people designated as being able to enter the space is obvious from the number of main, distinct colors making up the border of the effect, up to a maximum of six.  When the effect is dismissed, it annihilates all nonliving contents beyond any known form of retrieval.  No one involved in this production is known to be searching for forms of scrying or observation that could bypass this effect, and there is intent not to hire people of whom this is true.  If anyone on the staff was found to be searching for ways to disrupt the integrity of the privacy within rooms with this effect, they would be fired and face legal consequences.  We will not cast contestants capable of bypassing the effect.  We will never deceive you or intentionally allow you to be deceived about whether the effect is in place'?"

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Cam inspects that for defects. "...the notebooks aren't secretly alive?"

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"Not these ones."

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"I haven't tested the doodad on anything quite that long."

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"I can repeat it within a designation and then magically attest that the content of the designation is true?"

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"That probably works, in the sense that the ways I can think of for it to not work all require you to be more emphatically fucking with me than I am presently assuming."

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"I suppose that's all I can ask for."

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Shell Bell's doodad looks like a puck of white ceramic with four holes scooped out of its edges equidistantly; one hole currently has a blue glow emanating from it.

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Journey bookends the amended statement with 'chandelier', then addresses the puck:  "Everything I claimed between the last two times I said 'chandelier' is true."

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The doodad agrees.

"Cool. I appreciate your investment in my sanity."

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"Mmhm.  I realize the 'stick' part of the motivation scheme here is probably more salient, but in the long run I do hope the carrots will eclipse it."

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"They seem like probably really nice carrots, just, uh, in a way where the tension with the sticks calls into question the adequacy of the involved carrot-selection-and-design skills, in the same way that I would not expect a dog trained to fetch slippers to successfully retrieve the international space station even if it sounded like it was dragging something really big and I heard yelling in Russian."

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"See, the fact that you say things like that is part of what makes you such an enticing casting choice."

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"But you don't want me to be sarcastic in front of the contestants!"

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"Was that sarcasm?  But I did speak imprecisely, then.  It's not that all forms of sarcasm are banned, it's that... this is a show with a narrative, a fantasy, for both the viewers and the contestants, and there's a certain amount of going along with the premise necessary for that to work."

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"It was generated by the same general process that produces sarcasm and will be difficult to suppress one without the other."

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"Mm, I mean something like..."  He sips contemplatively at his teacup.  "You may understandably dislike the situation here, but it is completely within your power to come out of it with a lasting, happy marriage.  This despite the show ending by default at the proposal and divorce being legal most places within the CRC.  But you're not going to accomplish that if you don't take the actual dating a certain amount seriously.  There are going to be villains, and people you could spend loyal centuries with, and the only way for you to tell those apart is to genuinely get to know them.  And there's a difference between clever quips and being dismissive of people who are here through no fault of their own, and indeed between clever quips and using those quips to distance yourself from something that could instead be a chance to really connect with someone."

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"People play out romance plots on my television-related problem too to placate the showrunners but I suppose the incentives are different because the participants are never both alive at the end."

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"I am getting such a concerning picture of your television-related problem but I suppose it does sound a lot worse than mine and I should be appropriately calibrated for that," Cam tells her, and to Journey, "Can you like, paint me a picture of how I get to know these people in the proposed - so to speak - setup, I reiterate that I've never watched anything like it."

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"Of course!  It starts with the limo exits, during which you have a few minutes to meet each suitor one at a time on their way inside the mansion.  You'll receive one First-Impression Rose to give out to the person with the most strikingly positive introduction once everyone is inside.  Then there's a cocktail party where everyone mingles and people may 'steal you away' from each other for one-on-one conversations.  You'll have some time to deliberate suitorless before the rose ceremony, where you'll be given a set number of Clarity and other Roses to distribute to the contestants.  We'll work with you during deliberation to come up with an order to present the roses that's appropriately dramatic.

"From there, it'll be a combination of unstructured time, where people can roam freely around the Bacheloret Dimansion; group dates, where you and all the suitors participate in some sort of planned activity together; one-on-one dates, where you pick a single contestant to whisk away to same; two-on-one dates, which are like that but with more narrative tension; and cocktail parties and rose ceremonies.

"Normally many of the dates would involve real travel to actual destinations, but since the security measures are a bit nonstandard this season, we're instead going to have your 'home base' be on a planetoid within this dimension and bring in replica locations on separate planetoids.  We'll have our two establishing episodes here, then a string of 'destinations' until we're down to the final four, when you start eliminating only one contestant per episode.  From there, it's Hometowns - or, facsimile Hometowns, for the aforementioned reason - Fantasy Suites, and the Finale."

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"...I suppose I don't know if I would have resisted the temptation to name something a Dimansion or not," Cam muses. "Why is it necessary to present roses in a dramatic order instead of just cutting it to look like I did, do people have very dramatic reactions to it - they probably do, ugh. Do you have an example of forbidden dismissiveness you expect me to produce without guidelines against it?"

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"They'll also be holding the rose after you give it to them, even if they were all completely stoic.  Examples are, hm, we've had this alt of yours in the audience reaction department for a century or so.  Nabbed him out of a torture fortress that uses... well, you know how I said the one guy thought everything was a simulation designed to torment him?  That but for real, lot of memory erasing and running scenarios over and over with slight variations, lots of rescues that turn out to lead right back into torture - these are the levers I have for helping with this sort of thing, putting him in the audience - anyway.

"His comments, when we can get him to make them, are biting sarcasm over every aspect of everything.  This is fine, some of them add an acidic bit of lightness to the dish we're trying to make here, and we can cut everything else: this is less true of a protagonist.  If something goes obviously wrong with something we've set up, it's fine to poke fun at that; it would be obviously inauthentic if you didn't.  If you catch someone egregiously lying for drama, it's obviously fine to eliminate them.  But sketchy though we may be, we are not torture simulators, and I hope that you can cultivate an amount of buy-in to the premise that doesn't involve going, 'wow, a romantic boat ride on the romance show, how original,' every fifteen minutes.  And similarly, that you'll be aware that the drama between contestants is very serious and high-stakes to them, and that if you take pot shots at someone you consider to be an obvious bad actor, you're more likely to harm someone who's trying to care about you than you are the villain."

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"How did our alt get into the torture fortress??"

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"I also have that question but - hm - okay, not 'how original' about the boat ride, but what about 'you'd think they'd have stalked me effectively enough to know I'd have trouble getting into the boat without falling in the water' -"

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"Oh, we're going to fix that, with your permission.  Carrots."

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"Carrots," agrees Cam. "...can I make references to carrots as a running gag, I might want to do that."

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"If you have found my assistance useful and you feel like not hilariously lowballing me I would also like one of those."

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"That seems most likely fine.  You want this more than anything else that might come up later in conversation, Shell Bell?"

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"I'm sort of confused why I haven't been escorted out yet but if you are letting me stay for the whole conversation then not necessarily."

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"Cam, do you feel like you've been successfully onboarded about the existence of alts and the state of things in the multiverse?"

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"I mean, I think there are probably many things left to know but I do not have immediately applicable, burning questions about these matters."

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"Alright then."  He snaps his fingers.  "Anti-clumsiness installation.  Works except when it would be romantic for it to not.  Sorry, Shell Bell, that's what we have on tap."  It doesn't feel like anything.

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"Well, that'll cover me for at least a year and then most of the rest of the time, hopefully."

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"Mmhm.  Thanks for your time, go ahead and ask the producers about a goodie bag on the way out."

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"Thank you!" She gives Cam a hug, and makes sure she has her doodad, and she heads out.

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Once she's gone:

"You were right about the boat stalking comment being the sort of thing I'd generally prefer you avoid in front of suitors.  Do you think that's going to be a problem, either in terms of not being able to refrain or in feeling stifled in self-expression?"

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"It doesn't seem like it obviously pokes at the contestants at all, they didn't stalk me - presumably - or is this a situation where the boat ride is their idea and not the producer's?"

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"It's that if you're frequently commenting on how much we did or didn't stalk you, to the exclusion of focusing on the contestants, that creates an environment where you're less likely to succeed at the premise.  We had a notorious season with bad loops where the batch would make these sorts of comments, then the contestants in trying to please her would look for chances to make similar ones, and then they'd go back and forth with that and that was about as deep as their relationship ever got, because they weren't actually getting to know each other.  She and the winner broke up almost immediately after the finale, because the only thing they had in common was snarking about a show they were no longer on."

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"So basically the thing you are looking for, here, is for me to be the bigger person about having been kidnapped and cast on The Bachelor: Gender Neutral Space Edition, and permit this to succeed insofar as you have successfully also, in addition to doing that, gathered the resources for me to accomplish this."

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"Yes!  If you please."

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"Just till the end of the season."

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"Being the bigger person?  Yes.  We can't release you into the multiverse until the season's done airing, but: eight episodes, then a few months with you and the winner and up to a few thousand people with ironclad NDAs living in relatively isolated luxury with no cameras not owned by the two of you - or you can skip it, if you'd rather; time dilation goes the other way too - then a wedding special if you want it and we turn you loose."

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"How long does each episode represent in experienced time?"

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"Traditionally a week.  Sometimes things get a bit flexed what with all the timeflow differences, but if you're not asking for bonus time for deliberation or spending with contestants it's not likely to be off that by more than a half."

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"I do sort of worry that I am contributing to the moral turpitude of your voluntary audience but I guess you've done more than a thousand seasons' worth of damage without my help."

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"Quite."

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"What is a 'fantasy suite'."

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"A place with an effect like the one in your notetaking room, except that two people can enter it.  For you and each of the remaining three suitors to spend the night in as a couple, if both involved parties want that."

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"Just to get it out of my system: let me guess, there is only one bed."

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"It's a large bed."

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"If you can't get a camera in there why set it up with even a very large one bed? Like, if you could get inside for an establishing shot even if you then politely withdrew maybe it'd be a good balance of signaling to the audience and to the participants but if you can't..."

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"That's what reenactments with duplicate environments are for."

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"Am I also supposed to participate in reenactments? I am not an actor, I'm an academic."

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"We're perfectly willing to take the time to coach you through how to help us get a usable shot.  There will be a lot of chances to practice: if you stumble over your words, or if a contestant does, we'll sometimes ask you to take a few lines again, that sort of thing.  It's just repeating yourself, not coming up with a completely novel character."

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"Well that sounds really tedious and will kind of discourage me from doing things that call for it."

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"We'll try and keep the levels low enough that you don't feel like trying to spend any of your negotiation room on it."

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"Oh, I don't feel the need to negotiate about it particularly, I'm just noting that if I go have a private conversation with somebody and then this results in four hours of headache I will have those in mind the next time I consider having a private conversation."

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"Mm-hm.  Care for some more carrots?"

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"I love carrots."

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"So, contestants in general will heal much more rapidly here, and if any of them manage to kill each other we'll bring them back, but you we're giving a protective force field that'll keep you from getting injured in the first place."

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"How likely is it that they will even attempt to kill each other?"

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"Most seasons don't have any incidents but some have lots.  It will almost certainly not turn into lots if you eliminate the ones who've killed people and are competent at playing whodunnit."

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"I am not a detective!"

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"Pardon me, I should have said, 'not incompetent'.  If it gets to be a huge problem we have the ability to implement more safety features, given that you aren't an active fan of people killing each other over you.  Really, it happens rarely, and almost never happens more than once or twice, and among the cases where it happens at all it's rare for it the whodunnit to be very mysterious, especially given that the victim is shortly resurrected.  ...Though sometimes the victims turn out to be attempting to manufacture sympathy or are trying to frame someone."

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"How are you pitching any of this to these people, you're making it sound like they will all be remarkably invested not just in showing up and playing along but also in landing me specifically."

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"Well, normally we apply psychological alterations about that.  This time, we're trying to do a lot with selection?  And we're casting more than zero people who are not necessarily, we may say, here for the 'right reasons', and of course anyone who's here for drama is going to be more likely to kill others than those who are sincerely trying to win affection."

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"But like, selection for what. Selection for being delighted about learning that they are Empress Belladonna's husband's alt and that there's a me up for grabs?"

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"No, everyone except the constructed personality is from previously-uncontacted 'verses.  Selection for willingness to authentically go along with the premise when the alternative is going back to being dead.  Where applicable."

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"Are you even telling Empress Belladonna's husband's alt or whoever most closely matches that description about that? I suppose this would deprive some terrible people of their fun."

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"Not by default, no."

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"Is it cheating to ask everybody early about how they were recruited?"

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"Nope!"

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"Oh okay cool neat I was super expecting that to be cheating."

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"Why?"

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"It seems like it trivializes a lot of the intentionally placed challenge! Like, I assume they can lie, but unless you're giving them my stalking dossier and you're picking good actors, what you had to tell them to get them on board and how they relate to that is big."

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"Putting a blanket ban on you asking important compatibility questions is not the best way to achieve our goals."

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"I mean, I was assuming I was allowed to ask them what they like to do in their spare time and see how they react to me bragging about my apparently-fruitlessly-anonymous life accomplishment and stuff, the inner workings of the recruitment process just seemed different in kind. I am pleasantly surprised."

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"It's getting meta in ways that distance you from the suitors that bothers us, not doing it in ways that bring you closer together.  And we're threatening all of them with death; it's not like any of them will have an egregiously wrong-reasons answer."

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"Gotcha. I think. Your manner of thinking is twisty and I do not vouch that I definitely understand it in all particulars."

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"I apologize for that, to the extent that it's under my control.  Demonstration?"

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"Demonstration of what?"

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"The force field."  He picks up an adjacent paperweight sculpture thing and tosses it hand to hand.

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"...ssssssure."

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Journey chucks it at Cam's chest and a pale blue barrier appears an inch or so out from his lapel, warbling as it catches and then drops the metal ball.  Which tries to land on his lap, but gets caught there too before flomphing off the side of his leg onto the couch.

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"How does it decide what gets through, I'm still successfully contacting the cushion I'm sitting on."

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"It's fairly sophisticated on filtering things that would harm the person inside.  If you put it in a very confusing situation with a lot of inputs it might stutter on safe things for a split second."

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"Nifty. - hey, speaking of things I may have erroneously suspected I wasn't allowed to do, summoning yes or no?"

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"You're welcome to take actions that would normally lead to summoning, but they won't work here.  It's very secure and there's a strict whitelist of allowed entities."

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"Alas. ...about how much time is passing in my world while we're at this?"

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"Twenty-some seconds per year, though it got somewhat of a head start while we were collecting you.  Your parents heard you died about an hour ago, if that's what you're asking."

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"I assume there's no cute 'meet each other's families and incidentally reassure them that we're not dead' episode, you didn't mention one."

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"No, that's what Hometowns are!  Episode six.  And as the protagonist you can bring them in for establishing your background in the first episode and occasional advisory phone calls after that; we'll keep them comfortable."

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"Do you make ominous choices about how to phrase your reassurances on purpose?"

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"Only sometimes!  We will not mind control them; we will put them in a setup similar to your luxurious after-season deal where they are distantly accessible to provide heartwarming advice but don't take up too much screentime.  If you consent that we should grab them."

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"And they can go home, thoroughly alive, whenever they want, and are not in solitary confinement whenever I'm not personally paying attention to them...?"

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"Thoroughly alive, yes; solitary confinement, no; going home, also no.  Luxury pocket dimension with plenty of ambient vacationing people and a city with lots of exciting activities for Renée and a fishing hole for Charlie."

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"Ambient vacationing people of what ilk?"

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"Those from within the CRC who will abide by their NDAs and we think will make good neighbors; often this means people who care about the show very little.  If you have additional specifications we might be able to meet them."

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"And if I don't call them in early, they show up in episode six anyway."

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"It's been done more than zero times, to skip them - some people don't have parents, for example - but it would eat a lot of your negotiation budget."

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"Well then might as well grab them ahead of time I guess."

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"Noted.  Let's see, what's next... would you like to no longer need sleep?"

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"Will I still, like, be able to if I feel like it?"

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"Mm-hm!"

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"Sure sounds keen."

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Fingersnap.  This one doesn't feel like anything either.  "Sometimes filming goes pretty long, and we don't want you overtired.  Though like I said, we'll try not to let it get too tedious."

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"Thanks."

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"Do you have any carrots you'd like to request?  I certainly can't guarantee we'll be able to get them, but I can try."

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"The alt of me you have trapped in a less tortuous than his previous digs but still unpleasant permanent studio audience membership, is he - improvable."

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"...I've tried a lot of things.  You can talk to him, if you'd like.  I don't know whether it'd help."

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"Is that a thing you've tried, having an alt talk to him?"

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"No.  ...I could ask the psychic about it, I suppose."

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"Sounds like the kind of thing that could help if you have him on tap."

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A notecard sparkles into place.

"Hm."  He passes it to Cam.

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Hi again, Cam.  You've definitely snapped at least one or two instances of Kib out of the no-thinking thing he does in order to prevent torture guys from getting at his thoughts before, but this one has already done that.  I have no idea what method the guy with my face used to accomplish that, to be honest, and very little idea whether you're likely to help at this stage, although I admit I would enjoy seeing you try.  Take the out if you need it, though; cheers.

- Nudge

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"So when you say he's a powerful psychic..."

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"Powerful and strangely targeted."

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"What does he mean by 'take the out'?"

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Second notecard!

You know, if you don't feel like experiencing a bummer and/or doing a lot of talking to yourself.

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"What kinds of things have you already tried?"

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"Increasing his attentional capacity, at first, talking to him, playing various sorts of media around him, offering him things - ultimately what worked as much as it did was leaving him basically alone for a very long time - he dreams back any lost memories, which he knew from before the torture fortress because he was reincarnated - and after everything was in place he eventually got bored enough to - wake up."

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"Wow. Okay, I'll... mull on that on the backburner, I guess."

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"There are some pretty bad universes.  That specific kind mostly isn't around here, though; I had to go pretty far afield to fetch him."

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"How did you know to do that?"

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"I am more than zero psychic, just much less so."

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"...how's yours work?"

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"Sometimes I just know things.  Usually things that would help the production in some way, even when my superiors disagree."

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"What kinds of things? How are those disagreements resolved?"

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"These days they mostly just listen to me.  For example - well, everything about how we're handling you, but for a different example, the season with all the murders, 752, was outstandingly popular compared to others around it, and some higher-ups wanted to do a slow pivot into more violence-based setup.  But I felt, not just in a moral sense but, you know, psychically, that this would decrease our ratings dramatically below that of gladiator shows with equivalent budgets, which were already lower than our usual ones.  And we don't get to find out how things would have shaken out in a multiverse where we did something else, but we've continued to grow in popularity since then, on the whole.  Back at the start it was much smaller things: advising a batch to wear this outfit, revealing that information to a contestant at this time, saying these words to comfort someone just eliminated.  And the rest of production got more and more willing to trust me with these things over time."

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"Huh. I guess that goes a long way to why someone might do mind control slavery to a psychic guy."

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"I do get paid."

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"Mind-control serfdom where instead of the land you are tied to the show? Mind-control indefinite indenture?"

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"Something like that."

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"Do you have opportunities to spend your pay or does it just notionally accumulate somewhere?"

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"There are opportunities, though I don't normally use many of them.  I donate much of it."

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"Cool." Sigh. "Why can't my parents go home if they want?"

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"One, it's somewhat expensive to travel to and from non-CRC 'verses, so we'd rather keep them around for whenever you'd like to call them.  Two, risk of spoilers to gossip publications; someone else might track them down back to your world and ask them questions, and it's much cheaper to hole them up somewhere safe and nice, which we've already got set up, than it is to pay a novel security detail for them for the whole time.  Three, it in various ways does not always go super great when one drops people off outside of the connected multiverse and back into their normal lives without immediately also doing a proper first contact."

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"...what form does a 'proper' first contact take?"

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"Varies substantially.  But, some sort of official group trying to onboard the whole world, rather than individuals with no special evidence that what they say is true, no power to introduce communication, and a very narrow slice of an idea of what the multiverse holds, talking to their friends or the local authorities."

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"I resemble that remark. Albeit incompletely."

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Journey smiles.  "Mmhm.  But your parents..."

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"Well, what happens if they try demonic forensics on any of this?"

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"I'm not sure of the exact mechanism by which it wouldn't work, but I'm confident it wouldn't for things here.  Too magic, too far away, our specific shielding blocks it, a combination...  They could probably get a lot of other places in the multiverse fine, but not this one.  But also, this is not the tack most likely to convince me to throw them back into your pond, as it were."

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"Do I get to go home, when I'm done?"

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"If you want."

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"Again, the ominous reassurances..."

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"We aren't going to mind control you about it.  It's a big multiverse.  If you are become Empress Belladonna, savior of worlds, who knows what your ideal base of operations will look like?"

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"Okay but there's base of operations and there's can I go check on the place and then dip out again and your ominousness made it kind of sound like, sure, I could go home, one way trip though."

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"It might turn out to be logistically complicated in some way but I am definitely not saying that you definitely can't go dip in and out at some point."

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"...okay. So, the proper first contact, is that in the offing, or will its lack as a single issue instead of one of three prevent my parents from going home? Renée's married!"

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"We're lobbying to try and get that ready to go by the time your season's airing.  The guild responsible for being the multiverse's main source of material objects is counterlobbying but unlikely to succeed; for all its faults the CRC is very big on enabling free trade.  But of course we can bring in Phil too."

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"I have approximately no personal relationship with Phil and feel much less confident that he'd be chill with major life disruption in exchange for the knowledge that I am not dead!"

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"We'll follow Renée's lead on whether she thinks he should come along; he doesn't have to appear on the show."

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"If she can't just go home to Phil instead when the show's over some seconds later then that is not a very fair position to put her in!"

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"Nope, it isn't."

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"Any other non-death-mediated kidnappings in the works that you wanna tell me about?"

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"The families of the final four contestants, where applicable?"

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"Gah."

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"Anyway.  How would you like to be fundamentally recognizable as yourself, but more physically attractive?"

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"That's an underspecified question."

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"Our artists would work with you to create a 3D model you're completely satisfied with, and then implement it on your body."

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"...I will have a sitdown with the artists but might chicken out."

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"Alright, I'll set them to drafting.  Are you ready now to tell us about what sort of things you're looking for in a partner?"

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"Do you have a standard set of questions about that or anything to give me a framework, I'm not sure how to just start listing stuff."

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"Mm.  When you imagined your romantic life path at various points in your life, what were you picturing?"

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"I was imagining progressing through medical school or, later, after my plans changed, magical academia, and encountering someone probably in the same field or some interestingly relatable one, who had macro-similar micro-complementary interests and thought what I was doing was cool and asked me out. Or, possibly, due to the nature of gender, if it was a girl I might have to ask her, but I would have preferred for her to make it really really obvious that I should do that. Which I guess is not an important subtopic since the nature of the show obviates the question."

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"Any specific traits you envisioned them having?"

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"I mean, to be encountered in these settings they'd have to be smart? I do not think of myself as very shallow but could realistically be put off by somebody being unpleasant to look at, but that didn't cash out to specific envisionings... they should be ethical and responsible and thoughtful... they should really like me for, like, good reasons and not stupid ones, Revelation was going to be anonymous but since that did not work I guess that's a good reason..."

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"Tangent, why was that anonymous?  Did you predict someone shooting you in the face about it?"

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"Well, not specifically. It - seemed like the kind of thing that would work better without a specific human face attached to it, also?"

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"I see.  Thoughts on kids?"

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"...not attached to having them at all but if they're going to happen I think I probably have pretty exacting standards for what sort of world is fit to bring them into."

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"What about contestants who already have them, one way or another?"

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"I've been that kid and did not really relish the experience, plus it introduces more possible compatibility issues. Like, even if the kid is an infant and would attach no problem, genes matter. Unless we are talking about robots or something in which case my opinion depends on the details of how robot childhoods work."

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"Do you care about being theoretically genetically compatible with your partner, if they want kids and you find somewhere that meets your exacting standards?"

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"...I think so? Maybe there are really appealing exotic options but I don't particularly see myself adopting under predictable circumstances."

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"So it's adopting that's the thing here?  If they're fine with the pair of you getting a genetically-yours kid somehow without their involvement, that's fine?  How does this shake out for male contestants."

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"...situations where I'd want donor gametes seem likewise exotic but I guess not completely out of the question. I have perhaps over-optimistically been assuming that for male contestants they can't possibly want kids that badly if they are attending this season but I guess they could want it pretty badly and still not prefer being dead. I don't object to surrogacy, probably demons can zip something together if that's literally the only problem."

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"They probably can.  Also, lots of people are just gay.  All of me are precisely monosexual, for example.  Though I assume that if I wasn't already only attracted to some incredibly niche gender which I'm never going to encounter, I was made that way at some point before I became host here."

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"Mind control won't let them break the monosexuality pattern so they have to settle for the exotic gender hack?"

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"I haven't been told this or encountered direct evidence pointing to it; it's just what makes sense given what I know about myselves."

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"Uh-huh. Shell Bell was too young to know, am I always bi?"

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"Definitely not."

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Cam takes a moment of silent self-reflection to make really sure that he was definitely always bi.

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He was!  How convenient.

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It really is! He would be having some kind of problem otherwise!

"Further questions?"

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"Mm, let's move on for now to the environment.  What do you want the setting to be like?"

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"For a second there I thought you were going to consult me on the impact of the show on spotted owls or something - uh - I'm not especially picky about this one I don't think? It should... be... nice. I guess you could do something cute like dress everything up like it's Fairyland except I think that would be hard to navigate for people who can't fly, such as me."

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"Indeed.  Let me give you some specifications: the base here is a planetoid, about a mile in circumference, spheroid by default although it could be a torus if you'd like.  There are going to be several distinct places on it, definitely including the mansion proper and your house; there's almost always a water feature, a pool or a lake or whatnot; there are various activities and hangout spots around the rest of it, which you have some control over and which may shift and change over the course of the show.  A forest, various sports courts, games and recreation areas, pavillions... What do you think sounds fun?  And more importantly, what do you think will give you information about the suitors and facilitate you making connections with them."

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"I guess a lake sounds nicer than a pool as long as I am not required to go fishing. I... do not know what kinds of various sports courts I might wind up liking now that I'm supposedly only clumsy if it's romantic... like I still think ball games are kind of silly but who knows, maybe I would really enjoy figure skating or something... for suitoring purposes this probably only works if they want to introduce me to something because it's not like I am already competent to skate figures. Are these people all from interestingly different planets, we could do some kind of... expo... thing... showing off their cultural aesthetics in separate little nooks. ...there's some kind of translation magic, right, Shell Bell's name rhymed suggesting that she spoke English but -"

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"This season will be airing in early 21st-century English and we'll be giving everyone relevant an understanding thereof.  Are you thinking more of room-sized nooks that perhaps rotate through being associated with different contestants, or, hm, closet-sized ones and have them all at once?"

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"I was imagining room-sized and I guess you can rotate them if there are relevant space considerations."

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"Somewhat artificial space constraints, but space constraints yes.  We want to encourage people to interact with each other."

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"Wouldn't want them to be too spread out to attempt to murder each other," Cam mutters. "Yeah I have no particular objection to rotating the rooms."

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"Do you want a forest or a garden or something else?  We do strongly recommend having that sort of semi-private space; it facilities a lot of useful kinds of interactions."

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"'Semi-private' and 'useful' in the same breath is ominous again. A garden sounds nice."

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"What sort of climate do you like?  Would you prefer to have weather, or a consistent set of conditions?  We do require a day/night cycle."

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"I do not object to a day/night cycle and I'm not very picky about weather having lived in both of Arizona and Washington but I guess I do not think it's especially romantic to get rained on. ...it could be romantic to get snowed on, a little bit, but constant snow would get old, which I guess means some variance."

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"Sort of an autumnal setup then, perhaps?  A tasteful one?"

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"...weird to specify that it should be tasteful but I suppose there are alternatives, so, yeah."

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"There certainly are.  It's not romantic to get drizzled on?  No rain at all?"

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"Maybe a light mist. It can rain when we're indoors, it makes a nice noise."

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"Got it.  How many celestial bodies do you want in the sky?  Any color requests?"

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"Y'know what, let's be pointlessly indulgent and have rings and a couple of moons, but I will leave colors to the design department."

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"Sure.  Any other hobbies you'd like to see represented in the design?  Musical instruments, spots for rock climbing, dance floors...?"

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"I don't know what the contestants get up to and you have probably stalked me enough to know that I have not previously indulged in nor nursed a particular desire to pick up any of the above. I guess dancing is romantic but, again, somebody is going to have to teach me to dance, I do not know how and if all else were equal which I know it is not I would sorta prefer to be getting over the initial stages of incompetence at it while not on interdimensional television but oh well."

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"Would you like to have some amount of dancing knowledge downloaded into your brain?  Or learn the long way without this being televised?"

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"In principle putting knowledge in my brain could be keen but we have an international space station type problem here."

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"We'll get you an instructor."

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"Sure."

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"Any preferences on style?  Have you seen Atriama yet - "

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"Uh, doesn't ring a bell, should I have? What is it?"

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"It's a ballet that yous like sufficiently to have named, truly so many polities after it, when they have the opportunity to be doing that.  According to Nudge.  It's aerial, but it might be that you like grounded ballet too; he wasn't sure."

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"...I sure hope they're doing that in unknowing parallel and I don't have to have a word with myselves about things being distinguishable from each other by name but sounds like a strong recommendation. I have issues with the genre of ballet in much the same way I have issues with football but I guess if everybody involved has an anti-injury field and none of it requires anyone to weigh eighty-two pounds as an adult or anything it's probably pretty? If it weren't pretty they wouldn't do it?"

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"Mmhm.  And unknowing parallel, yes.  You might also or instead want to start on some sort of ballroom dancing, for applicability of use with contestants."

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"I do not know things about the forms of ballroom dancing."

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"We can give you a smattering each of some that match the cultural backgrounds of the contestants."

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"Sure, sounds good."

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"...It seems good to check whether you knew that your clumsiness problem was stored in your brain.  For ISS reasons."

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"Lots of things are stored in the brain. My brain is probably doing all kinds of shit based on, like, how much salt I've eaten lately. My clumsiness was an interference between my mind and my ability to do stuff."

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"Yes, but in some sense so is your lack of dancing skill, yes?  I can see why you'd distinguish between them and want one but not the other, but to me they seem like different points on a smooth scale."

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"The scale seems to me to have some step changes on it, albeit shallow ones, but there are certainly sources I could imagine trusting with dance knowledge implantation and this situation just falls short of that level of confidence!"

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"I'm not trying to convince you to accept magical dance knowledge; I'm putting out feelers for whether I should also offer things like increased attentional capacity and mental quickness, or skip them.  And checking that you weren't going to feel retroactively deceived about the clumsiness."

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"If you happen to have Empress Belladonna's exact models of these things available mint in the box or whatever, I will take them. If they are homebrew, they will have to wait."

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"Then they will wait."

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"So I suspected. Anything else?"

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"...Hm.  I should note that we do have control over people's initial moods when they wake up from from death, and in fact cannot relinquish that control.  We could... artificially randomize it, with dice or something, if you were very concerned about it, but that seems worse to me than accepting some degree of responsibility for their experience."

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"Is, uh, 'calm like they woke up from not having any memorable dreams', an an option, that seems about as neutral-and-gentle as it gets."

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"We can do that.  ...How calm and gentle, precisely?  In the more traumatic cases, there are often substantially better short- and medium-term results - according to organizations which aren't us, even - when a few minutes of memory suppression are employed.  Just enough that they orient to the fact that they're alive and in some sort of coherent place before they remember how they died."

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"I bet there are organizations who aren't you out there who I like even less, that part alone is not much help to your case."

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"I can let you read over the papers about it?"

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"...sure."

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"Now or when we break for you to go do your notebooking?"

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"When we break is fine."

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"As you please.  How did you find the environment you woke up in; is that fine to replicate?"

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"It seemed fine but my death was very quick so I don't know if it's ideal for everyone."

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"What would you change if it were up to you?"

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"Well, the suit is sort of weird, although I guess it avoided giving me the impression that I was about to have to explain myself to some guys with harps."

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"It would be really something if your world had daeva but also, somehow, Christianity.  Or I suppose if some worlds where Christianity was true had set up a coalition and were nabbing people from other 'verses but... still holding atheism against them?  Is I think what you've implied?"

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"I wasn't expecting harps, to be clear, but I did grow up in a pre-Revelation world and would have recognized some setups in the idiom of, like, New Yorker cartoons with clouds and St. Peter."

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"Mmhm.  Something like that is probably happening somewhere; it's a big multiverse.  I do think the formalwear is good at setting expectations for what sort of experience the resurectees are about to have, especially but not only if they're familiar with The Bachelor or similar franchises."

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"I guess the formalwear might be less that way for women since there's not so specific a sort of dress."

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"Less but still far from zero, I'd think."

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"If you say so."

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"And it lets us use the footage, just in case."

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"Yaaaay."

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"You do not, for the record, have to wear a suit for the whole season."

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"It would not rank highly among my complaints if I did, really."

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"Not even among your petty ones?"

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"I don't super care what I wear? I don't like actual formality but its costumery is not the issue."

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"I see.

"Any kinds of dates you'd particularly like to go on?"

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"...the setup seems a little hostile to museums."

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"We could duplicate in a museum!  What kind?"

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"Oh, I like lots of kinds of museums as long as they're well-placarded. Not super into ones that assume I want to know the differences between the model 402 and model 403 of a particular train, but natural history is good and regular history is good and art is good and science is good. If there is such a thing as a magic museum that would be neat."

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"I'll see what we can do.  Anything else?"

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"I do not contain a repository of classic date ideas. Are picnics classic? I don't know that I want to go on a dozen picnics in fewer weeks but they're nice."

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"There will generally be only one of each date theme.  Group dates everyone goes to and it would be silly to repeat them, and one-on-ones and two-on-ones are supposed to be special.  ...Although there is one exception, sort of."

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"Oh?"

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"How do you feel about the idea of - or I should say, would you rather go back to being dead than have a bounded set of your memories suppressed, and then shortly later returned to you with no alterations or omissions?"

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"So you know IKEA, right?"

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"Not socially. I am aware of IKEA."

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"Then you may be aware that it's a classic test of relationships, to put together a piece from there with a partner.  We've found an alien equivalent and will be having you assemble a furniture item with your suitors.  But it's not a fair test of compatibility if you remember what you've learned from previous attempts..."

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"You can do a fuck of a lot of things but you can't find a few different articles of Space Furniture with disparate construction methods and then randomize the order? Or have people do some kind of stupid contest to get their pick of position in the order?"

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"The symbolic shorthand in the instructions are a big part of the learning curve, here.  If it makes you feel any better, you'll be lifting a lot of people out of misery with this one."

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"How in the goddamn fuck does Space Furniture Assembly do that."

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"Brand deal substantially moves a 'verse up the queue for CRC membership, and they could really use it."

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"Does this have to be sequential or can we all build something real fucking big with me attempting to project-manage?"

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"I ask again whether you might want to go back to being dead over this."

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"I'm thinking about it! You've got all this bullshit but you don't have a fucking fork-and-merge process?"

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"Is that meaningfully different under normal circumstances, or just for International Space Station reasons?"

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"I don't speak Russian, so I don't know if the yelling means 'why are we on Earth' or 'why has a dog stolen our borscht truck'!"

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"Hm.

"The thing is that there are technically fork-and-merge processes available in the multiverse, I just don't think we're going to be able to get access to them for this.  Does it make you feel any better to know that the memory suppression is an active effect, and if it cuts out at any point everything will automatically be restored?  The memories aren't going anywhere; you just will be temporarily unable to access them."

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"Maybe that would be real convincing if I were from Moscow."

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"Another option here is we suppress this and then tell you later that we're doing a fork-and-merge.  Work with me."

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"Can I talk to the person you're doing this sponsorship with and see if they like my project management build a giant thing idea."

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"Even if she does, that's fundamentally a different activity in the context of romance."

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"Is it romantic if I'm panicking the entire time somehow or are you going to tweak that too."

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"I would really prefer to not.  But of course my preferences aren't always what counts."

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"How do they do this on normal non-space The Bachelor."

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"They just didn't do things like this, generally.  More performances and competitions without the protagonist's participation."

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"In your psychic estimation is this the worst ask."

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He takes a long moment to think about it.  Finishes what's in his teacup and holds it up for a sparklesome refill.

 

 

"Yes.  Pretty solidly."

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"Excuse me," says Cam, and he stalks off into his private room.

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Journey's still waiting on the couch when he emerges.

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Cam sits back down.

"I take your point that, executed competently, this is subjectively like a fork-and-merge. It isn't, but it's like one, I get that.

"I kind of expect it to make incredibly bad television even for the kind of people who watch this, and a bad advertisement on top of that; I can keep myself from flipping out while I put an end table together if that's the price of not being forced into having some fake chipperness installed, but I'm not going to make it look like a thrilling use of an afternoon because it's not like putting furniture together is recreational anyway and then you made it worse. And the only way it's going to be particularly helpful in refining my opinions of the contestants is going to be in how well they pick up on and react to my non-flipping-out level of distress so you're going to have to cut the footage together balancing making that salient against having anything much to work with. If I were your space IKEA contact I'd want to rejigger it to avoid this but maybe there are levels of virtuosity in film editing I cannot fathom. I assume you, collectively, have already taken that into consideration however much you're gonna.

"You didn't say how many episodes in and therefore how many end tables we're looking at which makes me suspect the answer is not going to be, like, four, end tables, and will be like at least three times more than that with people I have not yet pared down and gotten particularly comfortable with, but correct me if I'm wrong."

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"It was planned for Episode 4, nine contestants, but if it would help you substantially we could bump it up to Episode 5, six contestants."

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"It'd be less bad, I think, with six."

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"Other things we could try are - letting you take notes after each round, halting the suppression for a while between rounds... giving you a short example of what it feels like ahead of time, which I imagine you really don't want to do but might still help -"

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"It hadn't even occurred to me that you might prevent me from taking notes but it seems at odds with the conceit you're going for if I have access to them?"

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"What I mean is that by default we would do them all in a row, but we could instead budget blocks of time for you to take notes in as much detail as you want, in case you don't believe that we would in fact flawlessly restore your memory.  For use afterwards, yes, rather than during, and also afterwards you'll in fact have your memory flawlessly restored and will know you needn't have done that, but: if it would put you at ease any, that's on the table."

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"It wouldn't hurt, I guess."

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"It might help if I knew, exactly, what about this was so bad for you?"

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"Psychicness failing you?"

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"Insufficiently exact."

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"How, exactly, might it help."

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"I'd like to try and come up with ways to make it less bad for you.  I wouldn't necessarily have guessed that nine versus six times would make that much of a difference.

"And I expect to have a better time playing the heartstrings of the producers with more detail, if there's any chance of getting them to change their minds."

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"You are proposing removing my memories from my accessible awareness! I already really resent that this happens naturalistically and in much the same way that murder remains a serious crime if you kill somebody who has a finite lifespan, it doesn't solve the problem that these might not be particularly memorable events, and anything you might be going to do to make it more exciting for your cinematic satisfaction makes it worse from that angle! I have never integrated half a dozen previously mutually baffled sets of memories before and you're going to tell me that it works fine, probably, for most people, you didn't bother to check with the many copies of me who apparently exist to be consulted, not for this, those only come up for lesser trivia like feeding a starving teenager for six months to borrow her truthsaying gadget - unless instead of telling me it's totally fine, you're going to tell me it would only suck if it would be romantic! Maybe if I cry on film somebody gets to hand me a tissue and it'll bump your fucking ratings!

"I'm going to be sitting on the floor with somebody while on camera and staring at Space IKEA instructions and know that there is a five in six chance that I have been artificially rendered less competent, at the specific task before me, which I am already playing along with a hell of a lot in order to do at all what do I want with a fucking end table. To be fair to the contestants to a degree it is insane to care about because I'm not at all likely to base my marital decisionmaking on how good I was at Space IKEA during this activity, for an advertising deal, on the extremely vague say-so that maybe this advertising deal has humanitarian implications like we are all on a cartoon learning a moral about how advertisers can be nice people too, but like, not in a way where even if you elaborate on it that gets to be why I'm doing it, I don't have a clean insertion point into the humanitarian implications where any of this can be about how I want to play it outside a vanishingly narrow bit of wiggle, it's pretty much just cope-or-die.

"You know a spooky fucking amount about me and you can pull thirteen-year-old girls with my personality and different television-related problems out of magical interdimensional bars to consult on show-related issues and, somehow, you need an explanation of this."

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"I'm going to go look into some alternative options.  What do you want to do during that time; do some more processing, talk to the art team, skip it in dilation?"

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"...art team's fine, I don't think being mopey will affect my opinions on how I oughta look."

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"Fantastic."  He rises.  "This is going to suck, just so you know.  Whatever I find to replace it.  But apparently maybe much less so by your standards."

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"Well, if I get to make an informed comparison that's always cool, love informed comparisons."

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"I'll see what I can do."  A cluster of people approach the doorway, one in a T-shirt and jeans, one in a collared shirt with slacks, and three with colorful and unfamiliar fashion.  "Cam, this is Harold, Dragon, Automatic, Bonny, and Tricia.  Art guys, this is obviously Cam.  Have fun."  Journey exits.

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"Hello Harold Dragon Automatic Bonny and Tricia," says Cam.

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Bonny - they all have nametags - waves, and Automatic pulls up a life-sized hologram-or-something of Cam as he currently looks.

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"So honestly I think I look fine but I guess nobody has literally perfect skin and I could instead have literally perfect skin?" he shrugs.

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Automatic pulls up a screen that's also a probably a hologram and taps at it; the model updates.

"We've prepared a few potential adjustments for you to look at, speak up if any grab your attention."  And here's some with tweaks on the jaw, the cheekbones, around his eyes, all pretty subtle stuff.

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Yeah they can symmetrize the cheekbones, he can't even tell the difference between the pictures. He's gonna nope the jaw. He dithers about the eyes, he can see what they're going for but what if he was no longer able to raise one eyebrow afterwards.

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Does he want to be able to do that on both sides, actually?

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The art department covers that? Yeah, sure.

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Once the face is locked in, how does he feel about these sets of changes to his musculature?

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Is he going to have to, like, take up some kind of exercise to maintain it, because he's not really likely to do that.

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Nah.

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Then yeah this mostly looks fine except tone it down a little here and also here.

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Sure, sure.

And when he's ready, they can apply the changes to his actual body?

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He takes stock of what they've put together and then okays this.

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They count down into it from three.  This one does feel like something, a little.  Just like he's moved the relevant places even though he hasn't.

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If they'll provide a mirror he'll test out his eyebrows.

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Sure, one gets sparkled in.

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Cool. They work. "Thank you."

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Journey paces in while he's doing that, McDonald's iced latte in hand.

"So.  A few things: one, there is not an available fork-and-merge protocol in the multiverse which I psychically expect to work on you."

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"...on me in particular?"

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"Well, I haven't been trying to check for anyone else.  Maybe it's some weird niche interaction with your latent mental opacity attractor, I don't know.  Two, I got cleared to move it up to Hometowns, final four."

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"Thank you."

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"You're welcome.  Three, we might be able to do something wacky with increasing your attentional capacity - which I know you didn't find appealing as a carrot but this is not a carrot situation, really - and simultaneously piloting several bodies.  Probably not real biological bodies, maybe robots or androids or holograms.  This would have to be in combination with some workshopping from the head of the relevant company, so, four, I've had her brought in."

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"I mean, it's not exactly that it lacks appeal so much as that it lacks certain things underpinning that appeal. How much leverage does she have, if she's in this to get her planet out of whatever its deal is?"

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"...Some."

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"Some."

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"Given that we're trying to come up with a new narrative spin to put on this, we're certainly looking for her input here."

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"I'm trying to figure out how far convincing her gets me."

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"Convincing her of what, precisely?"

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"That she would prefer her products represented in some other way?"

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"As in, on the show at all, or just implementation within that?"

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"Implementation within that, I assume if she decides to have nothing to do with the whole thing that can't end well though I suppose it's always possible I'm too pessimistic."

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"I think you are vanishingly unlikely to convince her to drop the deal but that nothing disastrous would happen except the failure to lift her people out of misery.  Those facts are related.  Implementation... some.  Is still my answer.  Given that this is a bigger sticking point for you than I had initially realized I encourage you to try."

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"Okay. Thanks."

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"Anytime."  He sighs.  "Shall I bring her in?"

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"...yeah."

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Journey sets down his drink to clap twice in signal.

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In comes a woman with purple hair.

"Isama Lalail, pleasure to meet you," she says.

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"Cam Swan, wish I could say the same but the situation is a bit of a pickle for me. Are you read in on how they want to work in your sponsorship?"

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"They're going to have you assemble a bookshelf with each of the contestants on the show, right?"

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"They want to do this by erasing my memories of each time so that I do not have any advantage in interpreting the instruction manual with whoever goes later and unfortunately have run smack dab into this phobia I have, and they're not being as flexible about that as I'd like."

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"You have a phobia of... I assume not bookshelves. Memory erasure? Do they not give them back?"

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"In theory they do but being without them for any period of time is real bad for me and quitting the show will, uh, kill me, so."

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Lalail gives Journey a bit of a look. "Do you need me to officially tell you that I don't actually care if your show is fair? For all I care you can rig it outright."

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"We care about it being fair."

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"And if he writes a tell-all book after you wrap and it's got a whole chapter about how the worst thing that ever happened to him is putting together a Stackmarvel? I'm a furniture company, not a gossip magazine, there's such a thing as bad press."

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"This is part of why we're trying to come up with a plan which won't be the worst thing to have ever happened to him."

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"Oooookay, uh, the Assemble pegs all work the same way but I could have someone come on and do a demo of that first thing, and then instead of several Stackmarvels he could get a different furniture for each one?"

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"...We may just have to endure a little inelegance as the price of not overly traumatizing Cam, but I don't suppose you have buckets of data enabling you to determine that at least four pieces are exactly the same difficulty as each other to put together, do you?"

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"They do have... time estimates for how long they should take to put together. I could find four that were twenty minutes each."

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"Is that for a single person or two?"

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"I can find four that are twenty minutes for two, you can put together everything alone but most of them we recommend having company and the estimates are based on that."

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"I'd still prefer something more complex, if it's possible to match difficulty there.  We can cut footage down arbitrarily, but the point here is to test the relationships by putting a challenging task in front of them that requires a cool head and a certain amount of competence in interacting with the physical world without succumbing to frustration."

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These fucking assholes.

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"...there's big stuff but I'm not sure off the top of my head I can get four that are all exactly two hours or something. Do I have everything service here..." She checks.

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She can connect to ALLINTERNETS_GUEST and select AMENTA from the resulting dropdown, yes.  It won't let her post anything or get at private messages, though.

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"Something between 45 minutes and two hours would be great, thank you."

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She doesn't need to post anything, just sort her catalogue by assembly time estimate. "I have... three at an hour and one at an hour ten. Two at an hour fifteen and two at an hour and a half... there's a bit of a long tail, here."

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"How long do you expect the peg demo to take?"

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"Less than five minutes and that's with marketing padding."

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"I could do a larger number of briefer things with somebody if we need it to be very exact?"

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"Three hours and one hour-ten is probably fine," he sighs.  "Sorry.  I am, naturally or not, somewhat of a perfectionist about these things.  Ms. Lalail, we were considering replacing the initial mechanic with parallelized piloting of for example solid holograms, enabled by increasing Cam's attentional capacity.  Do you forsee anything going wrong with this or have any ideas in light of it, especially given that the available method we have of doing so doesn't permit keeping the threads of attention fully separate?"

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"Never having tried piloting solid holograms with increased attentional capacity, no, nothing about doing that specifically while assembling furniture seems like it would be a problem compared to doing it while performing any other task you can do that way. I guess they might distract each other but not in any systematic way. It's not like there's spoilers for the sofa hidden in the early steps of the giraffe bed."

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"There aren't?  Even to a non-Amentan?"

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"I am new to non-Amentans. Do you want to have some random crew members put these things together with solid holograms and find out? ...Do you want to make this the testbed for the proposed Even More Universal symbolic instructions in prep for the multiverse rollout? I have fourteen proposals from the department for those but we can narrow it down."

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"- I do want that.  That would help a lot, actually."

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"All right, I'll get it down to, you said four?"

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"Four, yes please.  Now, I'm sure Cam would like to hear about the general situation on your planet, if you don't mind."

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She looks at Cam. "You would? Why?"

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"Well, I've been told that all this is somehow critical to a major philanthropic situation and I like those, all else being equal."

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"Oh. Well, apparently if I get anyone from the CRC interested in buying Assemble products this will meaningfully accelerate agitation for getting them properly showing up in numbers and trading with Amenta more generally, and then we'll be able to get off our rock, it's too crowded, the population controls make everyone miserable."

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"Okay. Cool. Thank you."

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"They're really into babies.  Also a lot of other stuff going on there - thank you for your time, once again."

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"No problem, I'll get your people the four boxes and their instructions in various paradigms."

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He nods and half-bows.

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"Don't hesitate to call if you need anything else from Assemble!" and she waves and turns and heads out.

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He waves, too.

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And turns to Cam.  "If it makes you feel any better - or, for your calibration, I suppose - Nudge didn't know of any cases where this had come up for a you.  Specifically."

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"It is somewhat boggling for it to be difficult to extrapolate."

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"It would have been obvious if they were intended to be deleted or altered, but it didn't seem to be just that you didn't trust us about that part.  And - you said it was a phobia, it seemed closer to the phobia side of your scale than the principle one, possibly closer to it than your mind reading thing although I suspect less strong - whereas I would say your mind alteration thing is pretty far on the principle side even though obviously you are also personally, shall we say, not a fan of the idea."

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"I mean, I was adopting the phobia language to be - legible shorthand. You ever meet the kind of philosophy student who likes to assert that no harm no foul if somebody manages to commit rape against someone who's completely unconscious the whole time and never finds out and suffers no physical damage?"

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"Not such that it both came up and I remember it, but I'm familiar with the idea."

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"That is sort of what that conversation was like, modulo some details that were not emotionally important."

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"- Well, I'm glad we had the conversation instead of... not having it..."

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"There are probably thousands of possible ways this could be worse yup."

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"Mmhm.  ...Do you object to us serving unlimited alcohol to the contestants, assuming that we feed them well and also offer nonalcoholic mocktails?"

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"I guess you can do that, I don't like being around drunk people but I can just give them flowers about it."

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"You can just give them flowers about it," he nods.  "Speaking of, thoughts on the rose bonuses?  Baby carrots you'd like the contestants to get for making it through another round?"

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"Well, if I imagine having been whisked from the moment of my death to participate in a reality television show I imagine I might want nice things like instead being alive looking at an interdimensional trade proposal, but assuming that's out of the question. ...I don't really know what you've got on the menu besides what I've been offered. Do they get their own private rooms? Can I give them those?"

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"Private in the sense of one per, yes."

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"Yes they get them or yes that is an additional perk I can distribute to the ones I'm keeping on the show?"

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"It's default.  Shared bathrooms, though."

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"...how many bathrooms to a customer?"

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"Point two five, for the ones near the bedrooms.  Multiple stalls, showers, and sinks, dorm style.  More around the rest of the planetoid."

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"...I can probably have a better idea than giving them more bathrooms but I am not immediately sure what. Do you give them all physical tuneups just to make them look nice on camera or is that a possible menu item, probably most people would appreciate it more than I would?"

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"More bathroom space automatically frees up as people are eliminated, anyway; we aren't going to shapeshift the mansion smaller.  Some amount of tuneup is standard, but we could add bonuses in, hm, strength, endurance, reflexes... the mental ones we offered you earlier, optionally..."

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"Run 'em by me again, I do not at present have an eidetic memory."

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"Attentional capacity, speed of thought; memory didn't come up but we might be able to put a minor boost in it here and there."

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"Arguably if I don't trust you with my brain I should not trust you with other people's brains either."

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"By optionally I meant, give them the choice and they're allowed to instead get no bonus."

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"I suppose it can be their decision if they trust you with their brains if I don't think of anything better..."

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"You can mull on it.  We're thinking of having them look like they're made of paper, since they're already going to function differently from normal; how does that sound aesthetically?"

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"Having... the roses look like that? Yeah that seems fine."

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"Excellent.  ...How about information?  One piece of relevant information about the situation that could give them an edge."

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"...an edge in the contest that I'm judging? You're going to have to explain why I would want to do that."

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"Some of it might be useful to you, too.  It could be things like... what are some notable cases of your alts interacting with theirs, how to avoid pitfalls that their alts sometimes fall into, whether another contestant was lying or telling the truth about some key claim..."

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"This seems hard to calibrate for fairness, which is after all so important."

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"Well, it is," he says with a tone like there's about to be a but.  But instead: "Let us know if you think of something.  Anything else you'd like to cover before we give you some downtime?"

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"...don't think so. Do you have a way to summon me out of my room or do you just dilate it so I come out whenever is convenient?"

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"The latter."

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"I guess I'll come out when I'm hungry, or something." Hup.

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"Unless you'd like to never do that again?'

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"What, come out, or be hungry?"

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"Obviously for our goals it is necessary that you emerge eventually.  Be hungry, thirsty, et cetera, I meant."

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"I guess I'm not attached per se and you're probably not about making it impossible for me to enjoy romantic candlelit dinners on command."

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"- I'd say 'of course not' but that would imply we're making you enjoy things on command, when I'd like to be very clear we won't be doing that."

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"I appreciate that. The candlelit dinners on command, the possibility of enjoyment left open for televised entertainment purposes, the actual enjoyment an exercise to the diner."

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"Quite."  Fingersnap.  (This one is back to not feeling like anything.)  "There you are.  Do you want the papers on gentle wake-ups for resurrection now or to come back out for them later?  I'd like to do some annotating for cultural context and background that the authors will have assumed was common knowledge."

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"I'd take them now but if you haven't annotated yet I can wait."

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"Just a moment."  He steps into the hallway and is back a moment later with a binder in hand; he passes it to Cam.

 

Before the first divider is a series of guidelines by the Seridahn Red Cross (Journey has noted Seridah is the capital planet of the CRC).  There's a long list of polities which subscribe to these guidelines, which are highlighted by color according to whether they're a universe, planet, country, or private company, with some left white.  This is specifically for resurrections of people from societies that didn't know that was an available service when they died; for people who died traumatically but with the expectation of coming back, see this other file that's not in his binder.

Here's the rubric for when acute fatal memory suppression (AFMS) should be considered.  Was the death itself protracted?  (People who were correctly expecting for a prolonged period to die of terminal diseases should almost never have their whole illness suppressed.  See this other file.)  Relatedly, before the start of the incident that lead to dying, did the person expect they were going to continue living?  Did the death involve antagonistic action by another sapient being or an organization?  Did it give them reason to believe the danger they were in would persist in a new, disjoint environment?

Once it's been decided that AFMS is appropriate, there's the question of duration.  By default, [unfamiliar terms] should [technical jargon] in order to set up a trigger where on considering the question of how they died for more than about five seconds, the resurrectee will be able to remember the answer.  This allows for orientation to the environment and generally avoids the worst pitfalls of distress on both the death-memories end and on the not-being-able-to-remember-how-they-died end, naturally.  Here's a table of like 50 factors for which different durations are recommended.

 

After that first divider, there are a couple of studies which are clearly the basis for why these guidelines were put in place.  Questionnaire results of 100,000 people 1 week, 1 month, 1 year, 10 years, 50 years after their resurrection; results are not overwhelmingly perfect but yeah, warranted AFMS generally seems to help a lot in the short and medium term and mostly get the effects washed out in the long term, although there's maybe a hint more lasting depression and stuff like that among people who didn't get it.  Then: 22 in-depth case studies with interviews from people who got resurrected on "Earth 17" from different points in history and into the year 2043; these end up being substantially about the dissonance between their religious beliefs and the reality of the situation but Journey has apparently selected these ones from a larger pool and they're all at least somewhat about traumatic death and memory suppression.  Some of the people had it in situations that are not called for by the modern guidelines and generally found it unnotable, though some of them ranged from kind of annoyed to very upset as a result.  Generally, bottom line, though, it seems to do more good then harm in cases called for by the first document.

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Cam skims it. "The 'take five seconds to remember it' thing is a pretty good mitigator. I think I am okay with this to the extent this is appropriate and representative data."

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"I did not intentionally mislead you with anything here and I don't believe I was altered to produce intentional unintentional misleading."

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"I figured you'd say that, just, caveats cost zero dollars. Anything else before I go be by myself for a bit?"

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"Would you like some snacks or anything to bring in with you even though you don't need them?"

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"...sure, I'd take some, uh, chicken fingers and a slice of chocolate cake."

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Sparkles.  "Top up on the 'nap juice?"

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"The nap juice."

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"- Pineapple, sorry.  I think I've been doing pretty well at leaving out later slang but that one slipped through."

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"- oh okay gotcha. No, just water, thanks."

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Big tumbler with a straw.  And a tray to carry everything with.  "Have fun.  Or whatever else."

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"Thank you."

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He comes back out again after some amount of time!

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Journey's there, though in a different suit.  "Hello again.  Any updates?"

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"Not of a sort I care to share! How goes on your end?"