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a dath ilani matchmaker in King Randale's court
I didn't think anthropics worked like that
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She wasn't ever supposed to die.  Her society goes rather far out of its way to avoid it.

But there are cost-benefit tradeoffs even against soul-destruction.  You could try to put enough parachutes on an airplane for every passenger, in case something goes wrong in midair in a way that makes safe landing impossible but allows enough time for people to put on parachutes and file out the doors.  But parachutes have weight, weight costs money to transport, and the exact scenario where all the plane's passengers could evacuate in midair and should evacuate in midair - somebody must have argued it was very very unlikely.

There's enough time before the predictable crash for the passengers to sit and talk and try to come up with some ridiculous way to survive.  They're passing over a rocky zone like a shattered mountain range; flat spots for a landing approximately don't exist.  The area isn't cold enough for their brains to stay cold and be retrieved, even if they had some way to protect just their own heads from the impact.  Five people are frantically working to tie together enough clothing to make an ad-hoc parachute for somebody's four-year-old.  It's not going to work, but it's a dignified way to die.

Thellim doesn't consider herself to be either among the few people who should fit into working on the ad-hoc parachute, or the engineers in the far back trying to come up with an impossibly good idea in an impossibly short time.  The best she can do is not distract them while they work.  Being still and quiet has never been an important part of her private-tradeoff-Virtue before this, but rapid adaptation to altered circumstances is a public-universal-Virtue.  She keeps herself still and quiet up until the plane loses enough speed to start diving.  She only starts screaming after enough other people are screaming that her screaming won't make any important marginal difference.

The pain is very brief, and then it ends.  That's as expected.  The part where she's able to note this successful prediction is not as expected.

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The screech of tearing metal and the stink of things-burning-that-shouldn't-burn is replaced by...something indescribable -

- and then the snap-crackle of breaking branches. 

She finds herself sprawled on a cold, wet, slightly mushy surface. Above her, a few slivers of grey sky show through a canopy of denuded branches. She can smell rotting wood and dead leaves. It's suddenly very quiet.

Then a squirrel chitters, nearby. Cold drizzle oozes down through the branches and reaches her face as a fine mist. 

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That is not how plane crashes work there has been some kind of MISTAKE.

 

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Okay this is an emergency situation with a ton of unknown variables there is no time to think about 'impossibility' or 'am I insane' or 'updating on an event of probability zero' or how much the exact reaction she is having right now is exactly like the start of every cliche fantasy novel ever.  She needs to push herself to her feet and look around and look around some more and identify anything that could kill her in the next five seconds before she starts planning out the next whole minute.

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It does not seem that anything is imminently trying to kill her! 

She's in a forest. Based on the cold air, leafless branches, and rain-soaked ground, it's either late autumn or winter in a place that never gets cold enough for snow. There's a brook nearby. There are no signs of civilization. 

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....A minute or so later, though, a sound that might be hoofbeats is just barely audible in the distance. 

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Thellim has totally been in a forest before!  Several times!  She's not much of a Nature person, but she has been to Nature ever.

That distant clop-clop sound isn't one that Thellim has heard before, even on Nature shows.  She'll shove aside all the stereotypical fantasy-novel-protagonist thoughts she's been having just to get them over with out of her head, and try to figure out whether this sound is like people or - should she be trying to get away from a... dangerous animal?  That happens to people when they somehow get lost in Nature without tools, right, they get killed and eaten by predators?  She should have instincts for this, it's only been a few thousand years.

Well, if she's wrong about needing to climb a tree, she can always climb back down again.  But figuring out how to climb trees might take time she won't have, if that's a human-eating predator.  So she should get started on that now.

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Climbing trees is harder than it looks.  Maybe the adaptation has been lost to mutational noise over the amount of evolutionary time that has passed since the last time one of her ancestors had to climb a tree.

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A white horse appears between the trees! It’s moving pretty fast, and stops rather suddenly, hooves skidding a little in the wet leaves and throwing mud-splatters at her and the nearby trees.

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A dark-haired, somewhat starved-looking man dressed all in white - or clothing that was once white, at least, before months’ worth of exposure to the elements - is riding on the white horse’s back.

His head jerks around; he seems to immediately know where she is, and his pale eyes fix onto her. He raises one hand, his expression flat and hard.

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Oh thank the random factors.

...maybe.

In fantasy novels the first person you meet isn't always a friend - but - but this isn't actually a fantasy novel - there are very few places in the real world where you shouldn't just tell somebody about the impossible thing that happened to you - except for the part where you'd obviously end up in psychiatric care, if you can't prove anything, but she's wearing clearly manufactured clothing with labels and tags from manufacturers that wouldn't exist in another world, not to mention there wouldn't be records of her - wait that person looks like he comes from a fantasy-novel-world with a lower tech level, that could change things -

Oh.  Right.  Thellim has to do the thing.  It's very sad, shameful in a way, but she's deontologically obligated to do it.

"Tsi-imbi," she says, very loudly and clearly.

(If she's hallucinating this entire experience, the code she just used tells anybody listening to her that she's experiencing things that conventional views say are very unlikely or impossible, and she needs to be taken to a psychiatric hospital, being subdued if necessary.  In dath ilani it would roughly translate as "This seems impossible, I may be insane."  One never says it as a joke or as an exaggeration; it's an emergency phrase only.)

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Whatever the man was expecting, running in here, it seems like she isn't it. He and the horse stop, and he adjusts the rain-soaked hood of his (filthy, tattered) white cloak, and just looks at her for a moment, his face still and unreadable but his eyes baffled. 

After a moment, still holding eye contact with her, he slips down from the horse's back - moving quickly and lightly, like someone very fit, but also wincing as he lands as though he's hurting.

He takes a step toward her, smiles very unconvincingly, and says something in a language that she can't understand at all. 

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Oh, poo.  Not one of the fantasy-novel premises where everybody just speaks Baseline, then.  Also and much more sadly, not a fantasy world where everything is going to be convenient for her.  This has many unpleasant update implications she will think about later.

Thellim widens her eyes, waves her arms, and says in very clear tones that attempt to convey confusion and haplessness, "LANGUAGE DIFFICULTY".

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The man blinks at her, shaking hair out of his eyes. (At closer range, it's noticeable that despite his apparently youthful age, his black hair is streaked with silver.) He takes another step closer, making some vague gesture that's probably meant to be reassuring. 

He narrows his eyes, glances over at the white horse - whose eyes are large and blue and oddly forward-facing - and then back to her. 

Something tickles at - not her ears, exactly, it's like a voice but it's inside her head. :Can you understand me?: 

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Wait what they're doing psionics now - she doesn't know why this is such a shock when interworld transportation is impossible anyways, but it implies further updates about exactly how weird her life is going to be like - how would telepathy work without a common language, what happens when she thinks a word for which silver-streaked-hair-man has no corresponding internal symbol, does it also convey something like contents of short-term loading of those symbols into working memory - she's been asked a question but how the heck is she meant to reply -

Thellim tries to think Yes... loudly?... in a way that she tries to make feel like how the question felt like to her?... and throw the thought at silver-streaked-hair-man?

(Incidentally, one would greatly overestimate Thellim's knowledge of zoology if one expected her to notice that the white animal is an 'unusual-looking horse'.)

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The man watches her intently. Again, he seems nonplussed. 

His eyes play over her clothing. 

:How did you get here? You don't look Karsite: 

The last word comes across mostly just phonetically, like it would if this were purely a voice-in-her-head, but there does seem to be some additional conceptual context; she can tell that he's referring to a specific citizenship or nationality. And...not one that he has especially warm feelings about. 

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Thellim's already-jolted thoughts start racing more frantically, spurred by that final note of potential hostility.  Silverstreak-guy thinks she might be part of a Bad Outgroup, with some flavor of what separates groups that she doesn't quite catch.  Literary premises of Portal Fantasies involve lone protagonists or small groups, so that they can be Unique and put their world out of its previous equilibrium; stories try to rationalize that by saying in the background that there are more destination-worlds for portaled people than there are portals, because portal-destinations have higher algorithmic complexity than portal-origins so there's more of them; but that doesn't have to be true in real life (if all of this is really happening at all).  Which means that Silverstreak's world could get a lot of people like her, which means that Silverstreak's world could be regularly invaded by non-cooperative interdimensional 'Karsites'.  How does she convey that her world is cooperative?  Any prideful interdimensional traveller could think that, no matter how relatively cooperative or uncooperative they were on an interdimensional scale, if they had no other world to compare themselves to - is her world even a relatively cooperative one, she doesn't actually know - well she'll just use the newspaper metric - does she need to think a thought loudly and throw it in Silverstreak's direction to reply?  Is he getting any of this?

:I apologize if I'm in a private area, I didn't decide to target this destination.  I experienced my airplane crashing and then I experienced being here.  Something to do with anthropics, if I had to guess?  You might know better than I would.  I'm not a 'Karsite', I come from a world that teaches reciprocation of game-theoretic cooperation and to quantify roughly how cooperative we are, we spend less than 3% of GDP on generalized cooperativity enforcement while maintaining over 6% annual real GDP growth.:

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The man seems to be getting this! He tilts his head slightly, in a listening-esque way, and half-nods in a soothing way at the first clause, and then looks blank at 'airplane', and thereafter keeps listening but seems more and more dazed and off-balance. 

He doesn't interrupt, though, and waits until she's done to answer. :I – what...?: 

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Wait, she's being silly, she needs to keep in mind the kind of tech level that might be implied by using an Animal as improvised personal transport.  :I'm sorry, was the part about 'airplane' not clear?  It's a flying machine - you can build those if you create a powerful enough engine.:

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Vanyel's gotten that much - the word she's thinking at him is unfamiliar but he had a sense of 'airborne' and 'transport' and 'some sort of artifact'. 

Nothing about this makes ANY SENSE, which should perhaps have been predictable from the moment he sensed the Web-alarm, since that, too, did not make any sense. Also he's exhausted and cold and his heart hurts and it'll be dark in an hour. 

:This isn't a private area but it is a war zone: he says, more brusquely than he meant to. :I'm not, er, mad at you for ending up here by accident, you don't seem hostile, but - we shouldn't stick around, this is too close to the Border. Can you ride?: 

The overtones make it clear that 'ride' refers to climbing up with him on the white animal that transported him here. 

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Thellim doesn't like the surrounding connotations of the untranslated term 'war zone'.  She does not like them at all.  Anger and death and danger to innocents.

"I think -"

No she's not supposed to speak, she's supposed to think loudly in this person's direction.  If any of that is actually necessary at all, but it seems to work so she'll just go on doing it until she has time for experimenting to see which parts are actually necessary.

:I think I could probably climb on top of the animal, especially if you give me a hand up.  Is it difficult to stay on it once you're on top?:

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He smiles slightly. :Not with 'Fandes. She's a Companion; she told me once she could keep a toddler balanced in her saddle:

The connotations here are densely-packed and confusing. A Companion is a creature that looks like the white animal he was riding, but also a mentor/ally/friend - intelligent - something about leadership, duty - being selected, personally, for an important destiny... 

:Here: And the man plants a foot in one of the dangling stirrups and heaves himself back up into the leather saddle strapped over the animal's back, with a grunt, and settles himself before leaning down and stretching out a hand. :Just put your foot in the stirrup, like I did, and swing your leg over - you can sit on the pillion-pad right there and hold onto me: 

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Aliens!  The Animal is a person!  She doesn't know why that would be at all astonishing at this point but maybe her brain is just very slow to update about certain basic facts.  Is a Companion psychologically unlike a human?  What is it better at than a human?  What do humans trade with them?  This is so exciting!

Thellim will very carefully attempt to climb on the Person, pleading to the random factors before she tries the 'swing your leg over' part as this operation seems to require momentum which means it cannot be slowed down.

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It seems likely the man has helped people with this before, and he's stronger than he looks given his scrawny condition; he pulls her up expertly, and supports her waist with his other arm when her momentum threatens to carry her right over the other side. 

:There you go. Just sit tight and hold onto my waist, and, er, I'll be a little busy for this bit, sorry: 

He waits until she's settled and holding on to his satisfaction, and then they're MOVING. 

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The Animal-Person is really fast! Trees rush past on either side, sometimes only a foot or two from her head! Some of those leaps over deadfall logs and soggy streams seem not very safe at all, but they seem to always land fine, and keep right on going!

Also the light is fading and it's starting to rain in earnest. 

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Well, if she dies again, she'll probably just end up someplace else, so she should just relax and enjoy this BIOLOGICAL ROLLER COASTER.

She tries for the first time to throw a thought out without having first been questioned.  :Feel free to ignore this if answering would cause us to crash.  But can you say anything about where we're going, why I'm not just dead, what happens to me now, and what in general is going on?  It's my first time doing this and my world doesn't have any... doesn't have any public knowledge about how this works.:

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:It's fine, I'm not the one steering: The man seems faintly amused, and to the extent there's any hint that the interruption bothers him, it's just because he's clearly exhausted. :I'm taking you back to my camp, for now – I can bring you to Horn tomorrow, I was just recalled anyway so perfect timing, but it's too far for tonight: 

From the connotations, Horn is a place, probably a town or village. 

:I don't know why you aren't dead, since I still don't really understand how you got here. And I don't know exactly what'll happen in Horn, but we aren't going to hurt you - honestly you're lucky you landed on this side of the Border. What's going on in general... I'm a Herald of Valdemar. Oh, and my name is Vanyel; this is Yfandes:

'Herald' bundles in some similar associations to his early mention of 'Companions', but leaning more heavily on the 'duty', and also there's a background sense that he has very mixed feelings about it. 

:We're at war with Karse, the neighbouring kingdom. And I'm afraid I don't really have answers for you - I've never heard of this happening either: 

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So this world doesn't get a lot of should-be-dead visitors, at least not publicly known ones, which matches up to the fantasy novel premise of 'more portal-destination worlds than portal-origin worlds'.  Thellim wonders if that's pure coincidence, or if the Keepers of Harmful Truths know something infohazardous that they've quietly communicated to fantasy-novel authors in an effort to mentally prepare people like her for situations like these.

:You seem tired.  Should I not be psionicizing at you?  I have - a LOT of questions - but I don't know your capacity for answers.:

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He sighs. :I am tired. Can't blame you for having questions, though, and I've got some of my own, too: 

(Or he will once he's had some sleep, at least. This is...probably a big deal? But the flat grey exhaustion of months on the Border makes it hard to really feel that way.) 

:- Have you had any actual Mindspeech training, by the way? You're, er, a bit sloppy: from the overtones, he is trying to be diplomatic and in fact it's worse than a 'a bit sloppy', :and I don't want you to leak and let anyone know we're here: 

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:Mindspeech is not a thing where I come from, or if it is, it's supremely not-public knowledge.  It doesn't fit with the character of reality where I'm from.  I know nothing about it except what I picked up from the overtones of the word when you thought it.  Be warned: my intuitive guesses about anything remotely near this subject matter may be incredibly surprisingly wrong from your standpoint, because it has such a different type signature from all phenomena in my prior experience.  So, um, how do I not leak?:

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This situation has officially passed the level of confusing-inexplicable-details where Vanyel's brain is no longer even managing to register the ones that don't yet fit into a coherent picture. Which is most of them. Fortunately, Yfandes is a Companion and has an eidetic memory, and she's listening in on his thoughts. 

:I guess I need to teach you to shield? I can put my own shield on you while we're riding, if that's all right, and walk you through it once we're settled in for the night. ...Oh, and just to let you know, Yfandes is listening in on this too, um, I hope that's all right: 

It's nice, actually, having her in his mind again and NOT having a stupid fight about anything. He's spent most of the last few months evicting her for the crimes of nagging him and getting on his nerves. It's been a wearisome stint on the Border, for both of them. 

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:Does putting a shield on me while we're riding - or me giving my consent for you to do that - have any kind of big consequences I should know about, like destroying all of my childhood memories or inverting my utility function?  Hi Yfandes, I have infinity plus one questions for you if you're in a mood to answer those.:

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:Hi! It's lovely to meet you, but I am kind of busy right now: And they leaaaaaaap over an impressively large rock. 

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:I - what - no! It shouldn't do anything to inside your head at all, it's more like - hmm, I don't know, like putting a raincoat on or something. What does 'inverting your utility function' even mean?: 

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Right she will not distract the Fast Alien then!  And - have they not worked out utility functions here?  Wow that's really low math.  She's specialized in a field with very little specialized math but she knows the universal basics.  If they name theorems after people here, she will get all of the theorems named after her.

:Put the psionic raincoat on me, then, I guess!  And, uh, inverting your utility function is a colloquialism, it's like - imagine that you wanted things coherently - and then suddenly you wanted all of the opposite things instead.  It's more or less among the obvious worst things that for all I know could happen by accident if somebody started doing weird things to my brain, reversing everything I thought was good or bad.  Also, if nobody here knows what a 'utility function' is - and it's really the sort of thing where, once one person figures it out, everybody ends up knowing it - then I have a lot of super valuable basic mathematical knowledge to give you all.  Like, the kind of knowledge where a 0.1% patentgratuity means I end up personally owning 0.01% of this whole world's economy.:

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Vanyel spends a long moment not saying anything. It's a very loud-and-marked sort of not saying anything. 

(He's quickly running through his mental list of every single math-related book recommended to him by a particular immortal mage who's personally responsible for at least one in five of the scholarly treatises he's read in the last decade, but also this isn't something he especially wants to tell Thellim yet.) 

:That does sound really awful!: he acknowledges finally. :And - I'm curious, but while we're on the Karsite border isn't the right time to ask you about math: 

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:I'm guessing you mean that it's the wrong time because things are busy and dangerous, and not because thinking about math doesn't work on the 'Karsite border', but I'm going to mention that I'm not actually sure just to emphasize how very little I know and how easy it would be for me to make a mistake.  But I can also just deduce things quietly to myself if you'd rather wait to hand me over to... the largest universitorial truth-inquisition commission and/or venture-capital syndicate in the history of time?  That's not how things would go if this were a story, but it's probably how people ought to handle things in real life, right...  I'm sorry, I probably shouldn't be asking you all this.  I have no idea what's going to happen to me and this has not been my least exciting day ever, but you come across in Mindspeech as deeply tired.  I do understand that in all principle-of-mediocrity probability I just landed on some average random typical resident of this world who isn't specialized for handling my situation.:

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:No, no, this seems - really important. Maybe even more important than the war: 

There's a burst of complicated emotion behind those words; it's tangled-up and doesn't all make it across, but there's hope - on some level it seems Vanyel is desperately hoping that this is, in fact, more important than that - and more important than some other thing that he isn't saying...? 

Also he has some sort of strong, messy, mostly negative reaction to 'random typical resident', but Mindspeech overtones don't make the content of it clear. 

:Er, what is 'venture-capital'?: 

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She is going to end up with a LOT more than math theorems named after her.

:Venture capital is professionally-specialized investing for creating new businesses!  I don't know whether the laws of physics are the same between our worlds and I am unfortunately not specialized myself in things like knowing How To Build Mechanical Clocks, but going on the sheer lack of overlap between our concept bases, I should have knowledge enabling the creation of lots of new businesses and wealth that didn't exist before!  Except that... uh... somebody's going to have to put wealth into the process in order for lots of wealth to come out.  And while I'd expected my manufactured clothing and the theorems I know to establish the basic truth of what I'm claiming, having to also create the business of venture capital is beginning to make me worry a little bit about... exactly where I'll end up having to start.  Do you already have 'money', 'debt', 'equity', and 'stock markets'?:

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Vanyel chuckles slightly. :We have money! And debt is a concept I'm familiar with. 'Equity' and 'stock markets' are...well, I'm not sure it maps to anything we really have in Valdemar, but I think I mostly recognize what you're talking about. The Eastern Empire has some similar practices. They're, er, more advanced than this region in a lot of ways: 

And worse in some other unclear way, or at least the overtones hint at that.

(Also Vanyel is trying very hard to be curious and enthusiastic, this seems important - possibly the most important thing that has ever happened - he's pretty sure that's what Leareth would say, anyway, though at this point it's unclear whether that's a recommendation...)

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:If you're not too tired, can I ask about the dire doomy hints of mass global coordination breakdown?  Is the world ending?:  It would be ending if this were a story.

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:- Hmm? I, er, I don't know what your world is like, and things are definitely...pretty bad right now. But, I mean, this isn't the first time my Kingdom's been at war with a neighbouring one. Not sure how much it changes the big picture, two countries fighting, out of dozens on this continent...:

He definitely feels doomy about the situation. The world could well be ending right now; it would suit his mood. But probably that's mostly the tiredness talking. 

(Also this would be a relevant time to mention the IMMORTAL MAGE who is raising an army north of the mountains to conquer Valdemar, but it doesn't seem like he can justify trusting her that far, yet, and also it feels hard and awkward to explain, and so he doesn't.) 

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:Why is everything bad?  Why are interactions between individuals and groups settling at a point so far off the Pareto frontier?  Is there a known reason why everything is going much worse than theory indicates it should, or should I be on the lookout for some anomaly on the order of alien parasites infesting your Very Serious People?:

Thellim is still feeling unsure how far she should infer from the marked resemblance between this situation and the situation a lot of fantasy protagonists end up in.  Quietly influencing authors of fantasy novels to reflect forbidden knowledge in a helpful way is exactly the sort of thing that the Keepers of Harmful Truths are supposed to be doing.

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Vanyel takes a long time to answer. 

:I don't know why things are bad: 

(SOMEONE he knows has a lot of opinions on the matter. He has no idea whether any of them are trustworthy.) 

:It seems - complicated. And I don't know the 'theory' you're talking about, so I think I'm missing a lot of what you're even trying to ask: 

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Is this world falling to ruins because nobody knows what a Pareto-optimal outcome is, and all she has to do to fix the entire place is tell them?  Nobody would buy that fantasy novel but, Thellim has to keep reminding herself, this is real life.  If she can just fix this whole world very easily, and then live happily ever after collecting 0.1% patentgratuities on all Pareto-optimal transactions after people find out what those are, she should just do that.  It doesn't matter how much her brain is going 'Nooooo, that can't be right.'  She should check.

:One foundational concept in the analysis of human interactions - sorry, Yfandes, I should've said agent interactions - is getting to an outcome that can't simultaneously be made better for all parties.  Let's say you have an orange and I have an apple, and I really like oranges, and you really like apples.  If we trade my apple for your orange, we're both better off.  It's not that one of us lost and the other gained, we're both better off.  Every time a potential 'Pareto improvement' like that exists, it's like a path of - lower potential energy? I don't know if that idea made it across, if you know about that part of physics or if that part of physics even exists here.  It's like water flowing downhill, to puddle at the bottom.  Everybody has an incentive to move in the direction of an outcome that's better for everyone.  If they can't agree on which of the better outcomes to aim for, they all have an incentive to form an agreed-on group process for dividing the gains; the incentive is reproduced at the meta-level to universally incentivize creating a coordination process.  If I'm understanding you right, you're talking about massive groups of people who've decided that other groups form hindrances to them, who try to destroy and injure and hurt those other groups as much as possible.  I have the approximate concept because of very shameful events where individuals or even small groups start relating like that to each other without caring about how it looks.  I have the approximate concept because I've read stories about very alien aliens who don't care at all about the same things we do, who try to trick us into destroying ourselves so they can consume our whole world and its resources.  But why does that much water flow uphill in real life?  What happens if you sketch out on paper a situation with the factions not at war, present it to the factions, and note that all factions would be better off if they simultaneously adopted the new arrangement?  I'm not saying everybody would necessarily accept the first offer, of course, but why wouldn't they look at that and go, 'Oh, gosh, let's figure out a protocol to pick up all this free wealth'?:

(Thellim does not, of course, think 'out loud' about her private suspicions that if emotions like 'hatred' have been baked into the human brain, the analogous situation between individuals must have arisen much more often in humanity's environment of evolutionary adaptedness, sometime back before the obscuring curtain of deleted prehistory.  Obviously nobody ever publicly speculates about why dath ilan's pre-modern history has been deleted or hidden to the best possible extent, but it's presumably an infohazard; one doesn't talk about infohazards with non-Keepers, and Vanyel doesn't act like one.  But individual situations in the ancestral environment don't seem obviously relevant to the question of how larger and better-resourced groups could end up failing in the same way.)

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:...The concept makes sense. I think: 

Again, there's a definite sense that Vanyel is holding back quite a lot of what he's thinking and feeling. 

After a very long pause: 

:I don't think it'd - work. I'm not sure I have any logical argument for why not, just...it wouldn't. Not here: 

He's never thought to feel embarrassed about that fact before. 

(He wonders how Leareth would feel about it, and then shoves that entire train of thought aside.) 

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And then Yfandes slows to a stop, in a clearing. It's nearly dark now. 

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:Er, we're here now. I need to set up camp, get us something to eat - here, I'll help you get down...: 

From the overtones, Vanyel is not especially in the mood to continue their discussion. 

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Thellim is very grateful for help in this regard.

After she's down, she forces a smile, and tries to summon up some of the verve of her favorite fictional protagonists to animate her Mindspeech.  :Well, for what it's worth, now that I'm here, I'll fix up this world I've found myself in.  Any dath ilani would.  Uh, you don't need to answer that.:

It's way too embarrassing now that she's actually gone and thought that out loud.  How do fictional protagonists pull off lines like that?  Right, because the author rules by fiat that nobody laughs at them.

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He doesn't laugh. 

He just goes still, gives her a piercing look, and then smiles a tired, sad little smile. :I know you'll try: 

Then he turns and hefts down the packs strapped to Yfandes' back. :I'm guessing you haven't camped much before. I, er, sorry, sleeping arrangements won't be as nice as you're used to: He seems sheepish about this fact. 

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That sad "I know you'll try" would be ominous as a line of dialogue in a story, and would indicate either a convoluted time-travel plot, or that the speaker was secretly an immortal who'd already lived 144 lives failing to fix his broken world.

Thellim wants to ask about this, because she doesn't know it can't be true.  But she has a feeling like she might be babbling too much already.  One ought to be compassionate to oneself as one is compassionate to others, and her situation would make it very sympathetic and understandable if somebody else in it asked a lot of questions.  But Vanyel feels tired.  He feels like he's not doing as well mentally as her, even taking into account what her day has been like.  He looks like he's eaten a lot less food over the last year.  Thellim's private conception of her Virtue, in respect to those Virtues that people can't all have simultaneously because there are tradeoffs, leans less to the side of 'prioritize sharing burdens with others and being stronger together', and more towards 'prioritize not being a burden to those who seem to have it worse than you'.

So instead Thellim replies, :I'll try to show due-gratitude-and-reciprocation for whatever marginal-added-utility-interval -:  Wait, if they don't know about utility functions, that's probably a much longer sentence in Vanyel's native language than it is in hers.  :Er, rephrase.  I'll be grateful for any improvement of sleeping arrangements over lying huddled to myself on a cold rock, waiting to be eaten by predators if I fall asleep.  If you have any tasks that can be safely done by somebody with sub-zero skill, like standing very still holding up a pole for ten minutes, or my acting as a passive thermal source, don't hesitate to ask me.:

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Vanyel blinks at her first sentence again, a flicker of curiosity that doesn't make it past his fatigue to become an actual question. :Right. Er, I'll do a weather-barrier first. In the meantime if you can find us a couple of saplings - go for about as thick as my wrist, and at least as tall as either of us - that'd be really helpful. I don't bother hauling the tent-poles with me, saves on weight to just cut new ones when I make camp: A pause. :Oh, sorry, some light would be helpful, wouldn't it: 

He lifts a hand, and a glowing point of steady warm-yellow light, like a disembodied lamp, appears a few feet above their heads. :Good enough?: 

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She caaan't.  She can't not say it.  She can't help herself.

:I can walk around for as far as the light reaches, looking for saplings like that and noting their location; I don't have tools to cut them down, if that's what you mean.  Also I'm genuinely ashamed about burdening you with so many questions, but while I'm walking around looking, can you Mindspeak something about WHAT is that light ontologically speaking.:

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:It's a mage-light. Do they not have mages either where you're from?: Vanyel yawns. :I'll cut the trees myself. After I'm done this: 

He raises both hands, staring with intense concentration at a point in midair, and...the air starts to shimmer. For a moment, something like a giant suspended soap-bubble glints in the odd light, and then it's invisible again, but the chilly breeze coming from that angle is suddenly cut off. 

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Who needed RULES?  Not her!  She doesn't need to know ANYTHING WHATSOEVER about what reality is or isn't allowed to throw at her in the next three seconds!

:There's no public knowledge about anybody who can do anything resembling what you just did, just like there's nothing resembling Mindspeech and no persons shaped like Yfandes.  I'm about to walk out of the volume where that bubble just was, to look for saplings; stop me if that's not okay.:

If not stopped, Thellim will duly search for saplings as requested, and be only slightly surprised when the 'mage-light' follows her.  Does she find two saplings, roughly as thick as Vanyel's wrist and taller than the maximum of their heights, before she would have to lose visual lock on the campsite to search further?  She's not going to lose visual lock on the campsite without checking in about Safety and How To Not Be Lost Forever In The Forest.

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(Vanyel is not about to lose his mysterious and inept-but-friendly guest by accident, that would be mortifying. He's keeping half a mental eye on her, with Thoughtsensing, and trying to make sure the light stays nearby though he's tired and distracted by the weather barrier and sometimes it lags. She gives the strong impression of being someone with NO wilderness survival training at all, and he'll feel terrible if she trips on an unseen root and breaks her ankle or something.) 

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It's noticeably chillier and wetter outside the half-formed barrier. 

Near the remains of a fallen lightning-struck tree, which opened a gap in the forest canopy to allow new growth, she can find a couple of saplings that meet the description! Mostly! They're slightly skinnier than a wrist, and one of them isn't perfectly straight, but they seem springy and sturdy enough. Also, with the branches no longer overhead to diffuse the rainfall a bit, she's rapidly getting soaked.  

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So kind of Nature to provide her with a free shower, but next time she'd prefer a heated one.  :I found two saplings that imperfectly meet the description, slightly skinnier than your wrist if I'm remembering its diameter correctly, and one isn't fully straight.  No problem if you want me to search further, but I can show them to you now if it's better to have imperfect goods now than perfect goods later.:  She won't mention the rain; Vanyel can see it too, and taking on some discomfort to help Vanyel will probably make her feel better about all the unreciprocated help she's getting from the already-tired person.

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:That'll do fine - I'll be right over: 

It's really nice to have help with this, actually. Usually he's left to make camp by himself, using Fetching to hold parts of the tent he can't reach. And...it feels good to see another human face, even a stranger. 

Vanyel heads over to her, and then notices her soggy clothing - she's much less prepared for the weather than he is - and tosses up a mage-barrier over their heads before he squats and, moving his hand but not actually touching the sapling in question, hacks through the base with a burst of focused mage-energies, catching it as it topples. He's tired enough that he has to find and tap a node to get the second one, which is a little embarrassing. 

:Can you manage carrying them?: he asks Thellim. 

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Well, can she?  She'll definitely try.  Thellim does standard exercises-for-health; does that suffice to carry two saplings?

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They're not that heavy, and if she's reasonably fit she should be able to manage, though the uneven and slippery ground adds an extra challenge. 

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Vanyel leaves her the light, but strides off ahead back to the clearing and weather-barrier, where he detaches a rolled-up bundle strapped to the saddlebag and starts shaking it out. 

When she catches up, she can slightly feel the discontinuity as she steps across his invisible barrier, and the air inside is now noticeably warmer and drier. 

:- Here, if you can hold the first pole at an angle...: Vanyel frowns at her clothes. :Er, just a minute - want me to dry you off?: 

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:With a towel, or with processes I don't understand?  And in the latter case, is it dangerous to me or expensive to you?  Being wet won't kill me, if the water here is the same as the water in my world.:

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:Er, with magic. It won't hurt you, I've done it before to my friend's toddler. It's...a little tiring?: Maybe more than a little, in his current depleted state. :But cheaper than having to Heal you if you get sick: 

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Yfandes whickers, nosing at his shoulder and looking at him in a way that somehow conveys fondness mingled with disapproval, even though horse facial expressions should not really be able to do this. 

:Wish you applied that reasoning to yourself, ever: she sends privately. :How's that sore throat doing?:

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:It's fine:

Vanyel scowls, then quickly smooths his expression out and smiles weakly at Thellim to try to show that the scowl wasn't aimed at her

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Thellim is not totally oblivious to what sort of person might help a stranger from literally another world, and not bring up remuneration at any point.  It's not the kind of person whose private Virtue leans toward 'will work diligently for sufficiently generous compensation' or 'properly paces himself for the long term'.  :I'm in generally good health, Vanyel.  Did Yfandes by any chance just say something about how you're pushing yourself too hard already, and don't actually have the energy to do this even if you would feel bad about not doing it?:

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:.....Um. Sort of: Vanyel looks self-conscious and a bit irritated. :Let's just get this tent up, then: 

He's clearly done this a LOT of times, and has an efficient process worked out; he gives her terse Mindspeech instructions for what to hold where, and within three minutes the bundle of canvas has been turned into shelter, with a waterproof sheet of leather rolled out inside to cover the damp ground. It's not a big tent; there'll be enough floorspace for both of them, but it's going to be cozy. 

Vanyel tosses the saddlebags inside, ducks in, and settles himself cross-legged at one end, beckoning for her to follow. He lights the space with another tiny mage-light, and digs in the saddlebags again, emerging with a smaller cloth-wrapped bundle. :Here. Eat: 

He tosses her what seem to be a hunk of hard cheese and a strip of dried meat, then uncorks a floppy leather bag that gurgles with liquid inside and takes a gulp before offering it to her. :Er, it's safe to drink, I made sure with magic, I'm sorry about the taste though: 

(The water inside is slightly gritty and does, in fact, taste like something scooped up out of a swamp.) 

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Thellim takes several gulps of swamp water, then tries to hand back the food.  :No, you eat, I'm not taking away your food.  It looks like I have more reserve calories stored in my thighs than you have in your entire body -:  Oops, she didn't quite mean to think that 'out loud'.  It's a little harder to stop yourself from thinking something than it is to stop yourself from saying it.  :Sorry, I honestly didn't mean to think that at you.  But my skipping a few meals until we get to town and higher authority should be fine.:

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Instead of seeming offended, though, Vanyel chuckles. :That's kind of you. I've got enough to feed both of us for tonight, though. Er, I'm sorry it's only Guard rations:

He starts gnawing on his own portion, with the lack of enthusiasm of someone who's been eating the exact same tedious food for months and can barely bring himself to choke it down one more time. Despite the moderately strenuous activities she's seen him get up to just in the last hour - riding is a workout in itself, as her thighs are now informing her, and magic looks tiring as well - he doesn't appear to be very hungry. 

:We'll have to share the blanket: he adds, apologetic.

(And he is going to check and reinforce his shields SO THOROUGHLY before going to sleep, because this would be an especially humiliating time to accidentally project at her during a nightmare.) 

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Thellim goes on looking at the chunk of hard cheese in her hand.  It's very clear that Vanyel is acting like she is Expected to just eat the food, despite her moral discomfort with the act.  It will be very socially awkward if she refuses.  The peer pressure to transgress against her deontology is practically a tangible force in her mind.

This about Thellim:  She has been in that situation before.  When she was eight years old, there was a teacher in her school who smiled at her and acted friendly with her and shared snacks with her, who one day started asking Thellim for help with minor pranks on other teachers, acting like of course Thellim would reciprocate.  The pranks escalated, bit by bit, little by little, over the course of months.  The point where Thellim finally balked was when she was asked to put a caltrop on a student's chair, something that would actually deal a physical injury.

It was all a test, of course.  And Thellim didn't do too badly!  A few generations earlier, her performance would have been excellent and entitled her to subsidized childcare to encourage her to have more kids!  They have to keep making the test subtler and subtler, and perform it on younger and younger children, or else everybody would pass.  It's something Civilization can take pride in, that they have to keep making that test harder.  Thellim's score in the 45th percentile of moral integrity was barely below average.  Well within a standard deviation of statistical noise.  Slightly less than half the planet will get a score no better than that, by design, because they keep making the test harder.  A 45th-percentile score is definitely not at the point where you should start thinking that you shouldn't have children, if that's your only flaw, if you have other virtues to make up for it.  Almost all of the reason why Thellim doesn't intend to have children is that the people around her seem happier than herself and like they'd enjoy having kids more.  Her remembering her 45th-percentile score for moral integrity has practically nothing to do with it.  Almost zero.

But Thellim will not overlook that there is an atmosphere of taken-for-granted social expectancy pressuring into doing something that the back of her mind - or front of her mind, in this case - feels to be wrong.

:Vanyel, I'm sorry and I don't mean to force you to explain things while you're tired, I know that there's all kinds of things I don't understand about your world and that I might be misunderstanding - but the way things look - is that your world has lower technology and much less wealth per capita than my world, and people here are living on the brink of starvation.  Anyone who visibly looked like you, in my world, wouldn't be taken to a restaurant, they'd be taken to a hospital.  Even if you have enough food for today, do you have enough food for tomorrow?  For one month later?  If I take food from you today and it contributes to you falling over dead from starvation two months from now, when I have plenty of caloric reserves myself, that's - that's something my people would consider - worse than an innocent mistake.  A foul act.  I am not certain that I will be able to repay you myself.  I don't need you to politely reassure me that things are okay, I need a serious not-polite factual statement that authorities will reimburse you for whatever food you spent on me so you don't literally die.  Yfandes, back me up on this?:

Thellim glances at the 'Companion', hoping that her pleading expression translates across the species barrier.

:Oh, and sharing a blanket is fine: she adds as a quick afterthought.  She's slightly uncomfortable doing that with a strange man, in fact, but that mental twinge is nothing she can't just ignore.

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The look Vanyel gives her is even more baffled than before. 

:...I, er, thank you for - explaining...?: The overtones indicate that he's not so much actually thankful, on an immediate emotional level - he's too tired for that - but he's vaguely impressed, and thoughtful, and curious. :I - I mean, Valdemar isn't doing great on crops right now, all the blood-magic the Karsites are doing is terrible for the weather, but personally I don't think I'll go short on food later? I'm, um....: 

A long hesitation. 

:- I'm the most powerful mage in the entire Kingdom and they aren't going to let me go hungry. I - just -: 

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:If he looks half-starved it's because he is: Yfandes adds helpfully. :But mostly it's on him for not prioritizing re-supplying at main camp. ...Also tapping nodes for mage-energy suppresses the appetite. And Van's never been good at taking care of himself: 

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Vanyel glares at her. 

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Okay that is a different scenario than the one she thought was developing but fine.

Thellim wants to display her ability to update and respond to reasoned argument, so she immediately and without delay tries to take a bite of the cheese.  Taking into account that she is trying hard to mentally brace herself for the result of extrapolating technological progress backwards by centuries and applying the resulting transformation to cheese, is this edible if she tries to power through?

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It's...fairly effortful to eat; it feels tough and dried-out and the taste is pungent and quite salty; but it should still taste edible, it's not spoiled. 

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:- Sorry, I did say I'd teach you shielding, but I think I'm too tired: 

Vanyel unrolls and shakes out a wool blanket, and stretches out on the floor of the tent. 

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:If I - throw my thoughts at Yfandes? and imagine them missing you? - can she and I talk without that keeping you awake?  'No' is fine, I'm mostly expecting 'no', and it's also fine if Yfandes needs to rest.:

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Yfandes is the one who answers.

:Probably that’ll work? I should rest too at some point, but I need less sleep than humans do:

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:This is a test of whether I can direct my thoughts to Yfandes only.:

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No answer. (Vanyel's shields are fully up; he's especially unlikely to pick up any leakage right now.) 

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:I can hear you. I don't think Van did: 

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:I have many many questions, but...:  So many that even among the meta-questions, it's hard to figure out which to ask first.  :You should please let me know if you're as tired as Vanyel, but I can't tell through Mindspeech because we're not the same species, for example?  More generally, some of my questions are how you're different from a human.  But the most urgent questions of that kind are probably - if there's any way I should speak with you differently than I would with a human, to avoid hurting you or hurting your feelings, or make my thoughts easier to understand.  And I ask for your understanding and forebearance, if I make a mistake anyways.  Meta-issues, communications protocols, those should probably come first.:

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There's a long pause. 

:We don't usually talk to anyone except our Chosen and the other Companions: Yfandes sends eventually. :Obviously nothing about this is usual, though. I...can't think of any particular advice we give human Herald-trainees on how to talk to their Companions, so I'm not sure what to say there? And I haven't got any experience introducing people from other worlds to this one, but I'm sure you can guess that already: 

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:Is your kind - at least as mentally resilient, or more resilient, than a human?  If Van had seemed less tired I would have been asking him for forebearance, just from expecting friction between different cultures; but by the time I was less - mentally busy - on my side, I'd noticed he was tired to the point of not seeming to want a lot of communication-protocol overhead.  But I'm worried... no, it seems very likely that at some point I'll say something that hurts or offends him or you, without my having wished at all to do that.  If you don't know any better than I do how to avoid that, that's... the best we can do, I guess, but it seems good to say explicitly before going on.  If you'd rather not deal with so much meta, I can skip to one of my object-level questions.:

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:- No, no, that's very proactive of you, wanting to sort out cultural differences first! Hmm. I - think Companions are more mentally resilient than humans in general, yes. And you're not wrong that Van is very tired. Curious too, and he may have more questions once he's a little caught up on rest, but...: 

Yfandes trails off, and pauses. Again, there's the sense that she's holding something back. 

:...Most things you could bring up about romantic relationships will cause Vanyel pain. This isn't a general thing, to be clear, it's just a Vanyel thing. But it's something you should know: 

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:Understood.  Or at least, I hope I understand, and I'll try to be conservative about how widely I avoid the topic...:

:I really have way too many questions.  Pick one, if you like?  Either 'Am I right that Companions are native to this planet and evolved alongside the humans here, rather than being travelers from elsewhere?' or 'If Vanyel is a world-class professional in a key profession that tends to reduce appetite and make it difficult to eat, why isn't he buying or being issued much more palatable food?'  Right now I have very little idea how much of the apparent insanity of this world I should chalk up to facts I don't know and reasoning I haven't worked out, versus how much insanity is because people haven't worked out what a utility function is or how to get more utility.:

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:- Wow, having some kind of system to get Vanyel better food would be SUCH a good idea! I don't - I'm not sure why no one thought of that - well, Vanyel wouldn't ever want to mention it, obviously, he hates feeling like he's demanding special treatment... Using node-magic burns a lot of energy but we know it also suppresses appetite in the short run, it's unfortunate: 

A pause. 

:On your question about Companions: neither? I don't have firsthand knowledge, it was eight centuries ago, but the histories say that King Valdemar, the founder of our country, prayed to all the gods he knew for a miracle to help hold his new kingdom stable, and then we - the Companions - turned up: 

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They have publicly known history from eight centuries ago with people's names in it and everything?  Thellim wishes she knew exactly what the Past Infohazard was in her own world - well, not really, but same energy - so she could figure out if this is deadly insanity or a perfectly normal response to different circumstances.

:Can you expand on 'prayed', 'gods', 'miracle', and 'kingdom'?:

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Yfandes feels decidedly nonplussed by these questions! 

:Hmm. Kingdom seems easiest - do you have countries where you're from? A country is, er, a certain land area with fixed borders, controlled by a particular state government, and a 'kingdom' in particular means it's ruled by a king - or sometimes it's a queen - usually monarchies are hereditary, though Valdemar is a little more elaborate than that: 

She pauses, thinking. 

:Gods are - very large, very powerful beings, who exist mostly outside of the material plane but have some investment in the mortal world and mortal lives. People worship Them, and often that involves prayer, which is basically just...trying to communicate with Them? Though, honestly, I'm not sure how often They're listening. A miracle is an act of magic that the gods provide, one which should be impossible based on the way things normally work. Does that help?: 

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:It helps somewhat?  It raises an endless series of other questions that I should set aside for now, because breadth-first search seems wiser than depth-first in this situation.:

If this was a story, the bizarre way that everything here (down to the cheese issued Vanyel) is so far down from the Pareto boundary would be... well, on a Doylist level, it would be a moral homily about the importance of paying coordination costs or just plain checking for better ways.  But on a Watsonian level... one of the factors present in this world, and absent from her home, would be secretly responsible for why things are so much worse here.  Some consequence of Mindspeech, Companions, Vanyel being able to make a glowing light, the existence of gods and prayer, or the peculiar sourness of the cheese, which would be destroying their ability to coordinate as easily as just-humans do under just-physics.  The destructive factor wouldn't necessarily have to be introduced in this first chapter because that rule would make the puzzle too easy, but the key factor would have to be introduced early on.  And the book's literary merit would increase monotonically with how hard the reader kicked herself afterwards for not seeing the consequences right away.

If this is some form of generalized book, obeying standard book-patterns, her Story is going to be About cleverly deducing the factor that prevents this world's civilization from developing the way regular humans do without interference, and reduces it to weird warring kingdoms instead.

If this is generalized reality then that kind of thinking will not work at all. She would have put a higher probability on that before Vanyel turned out to be the top professional mage.  Sure, there could be a reason for that, but books have rationalizations too.  That plot development fits a pattern, is the thing.

She's just going to have to try to extrapolate it both ways, and keep track of the difference.

She isn't going to say all this to Yfandes, yet, though, because the Companions are one of the differing factors that got introduced in metaphorical chapter one.  Gosh, she hopes she doesn't start leaking all this stuff through the psionic transmissions.  Which reminds her.

:Do you also know how to teach me shielding?  Or can you tell me things now, so that Vanyel doesn't have to tell me them after he's rested?  He seemed to think it was urgent, if I can learn it now; and even if my practicing has to wait on him, saving him explanatory effort later seems good.:

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:I'm not as experienced a teacher but I'm happy to give it a try! Van was mainly worried because Mindspeech can be detectable, that'll be less of an issue once we're back in the main camp tomorrow, but I might as well walk you through how to center and ground and see if you can pick up shielding tonight: 

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If this was a story, she wouldn't be as good at psionics as the natives despite her initial enthusiasm; and the homily would be that your extraneous weird powers don't define you, how well the inner you thinks determines whether you win or lose.

But those, on reflection, are all stories written for the benefit of readers who are never going to get actual psychic powers in real life.

In this generalized story, or generalized reality, whichever it is?

She is totally going to see whether she can be the Even More Powerful Psion and blow away all the natives using her knowledge of linear algebra, which will turn out to be super useful for psionics.  Like, she'll be fine if she can't, but she's sure going to try.

School mode on.  Psionic Mistress Thellim is go.

:I accept you as my teacher.  Let's do this.:

:Wait.  I mean, I, Thellim, accept you as my teacher.  Because my name is Thellim.  Have I actually forgotten to say that this whole time?  Anyway, I'm Thellim and I accept you as my teacher.:

She's going to be so much smoother the next time she dies and finds herself in another world.

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:- Well, Thellim, it's nice to meet you: Yfandes' mindvoice is fond and amused. :All right. To start, you need to focus on your breathing, feel it in your body, and try to find the place inside you that holds steady and doesn't move with your breath...: 

And Yfandes tries to talk her through the basic trainee exercises for Mindspeech shielding. 

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There will be a number of inevitable initial questions along the lines of "Do you mean that I should look for a biological part of my body that doesn't move when I breathe, or do you mean that I should look inside my kinesthetic sense for an extrabiological sensation that remains still while I breathe?" but Thellim will do her best to do whatever the answers indicate she should do.

Is she shaping up to be the Most Powerful Psion Ever or what?

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She's doing somewhat above average for a student with newly-awakened Mindspeech! Yfandes praises her accordingly. Maybe she's picking it up faster because she's a little older? Most trainees get their Gifts around age twelve or thirteen. 

(She's vastly easier to teach than Vanyel was, but Yfandes does not say this.) 

Yfandes still gives a moderate amount of polite correction, and suggests some exercises for her to keep practicing until she gets it down on an instinctive level. 

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That's fine.  Thellim didn't have her heart set on being the Most Powerful Psion, she just thought it'd be stupid not to check.

Thellim will do some exercises, have a surprising amount of trouble recalling her infinite questions list in anything that seems like a reasonable priority, and realize this means she should perhaps try to actually sleep.

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Yfandes arranges herself next to the mouth of the tent. :Goodnight!:

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Vanyel is already asleep, but he's smushed himself right up against the wall of the tent and left some trailing blanket for her to slip under. 

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:Oh, sorry, one last thing.  Yfandes, your recommedation between the two bad options 'Wear my wet clothes under the blanket and risk getting the blanket wet' versus 'Take off clothing to underwear level, risk triggering romance-related issues' versus 'Obvious solution silly outworlder didn't think of?':

If Vanyel is a world-class professional in his field, Thellim probably doesn't need to worry about being pretty enough that Vanyel's future mates will be compared unfavorably to the sight of her form unconcealed.  Rules like that are for less drastic situations anyways.

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:- Oh. You...don't need to worry about romance-related associations with that. You're, er, not exactly his type: A mental chuckle. :Honestly, he might not even notice. He tends to be preoccupied, lately: 

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She'll remove an outer layer of clothing, slip under the blanket with a minimum of Vanyel disturbance, and endeavor, with surprising success, to nod off.

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By now the area inside the weather-barrier is fairly cozy. Eventually, the rain stops, the wind slows, and the night outside is quiet. 

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- About a candlemark before dawn, Vanyel is wrenched from an uneasy sleep, and lurches upright in a single motion, his eyes half rolled back as he reaches for the Web and his Farsight even before coming fully awake. 

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:Thellim! Wake up! Karsite raid - Van'll hold them off but we should move–: 

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Awake awake scrambling for her clothes if she's not told otherwise :awaiting instruction: once they're on

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:Just hang on a minute - Van's casting at a distance right now: 

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Vanyel is holding perfectly still, not visibly doing anything, except for the part where he's breathing hard. 

- Eventually he shifts position. :Ugh. I am SO sorry about that. This border is goddamned crawling with scout parties. Think I scared them off, but we'd better pack up and go now - sorry...: 

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Anyone from dath ilan would recognize Thellim's stance as awaiting emergency instructions from whoever has assumed responsibility for coordinating response to this emergency.  It takes her a conscious second to override the fact that Vanyel isn't talking in the way that she's been trained to expect commands, during emergencies.  What a stupid flaw to instill in people who might be transported to other worlds.

:Command me in any unskilled ways I can help you pack.:  She's got her clothes on, that's her own private property done.

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:Um, all right. We'll just need to get the tent taken down and packed–: 

Vanyel balls up the blanket, shoves it roughly into the saddlebag, and tosses the bags out the door before worming his way after them. During the two minutes or so it takes them to disassemble the tent and fold up the canvas part for transport, he barely says a word to her - just a couple of Mindspeech instructions, but mostly he covers that with gestures. He replaces his Companion's saddle with minimal, practiced motions. 

Again, he offers her a hand and helps pull her up onto Yfandes' back behind him, and this time doesn't wait for confirmation that she's holding on before they gallop away into the darkness. 

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It's very unclear how Yfandes can see where they're going enough to avoid head-on collisions with trees! Maybe Companions have better night vision than humans. 

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Thellim will be still and quiet again!  It got her killed last time, but that probably was associational rather than causal, and anyways her final outcome there was well above the 99th percentile of her expectations.

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After ten minutes or so, presumably once they're out of range of the immediate danger, Yfandes slows to a more reasonable pace.

Dawn is on its way; the sky is distinct from the branches over their heads, now, grey against black. 

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For a while longer, Vanyel is moodily silent. 

:You can ask questions if you want: he says finally. :It'll be another few candlemarks before we reach Horn: 

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:I have a number of questions but first - should you be eating something?  I will literally prechew food for you, if that will help you make it to Horn, where there is, I hope, much better food.:

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:- Ha, I've decided I like you: Yfandes sends privately to Thellim, with a mental chuckle. And to both of them, :Van, she has a point. It won't delay us much to stop for breakfast: 

She appears to have made this decision for him, since she's slowing to a halt between two arching tree-trunks. 

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Thellim continues to be grateful for such assistance.

She'll wait until food is distributed and then dual-send to only Vanyel and Yfandes, on her best novice-psion form, :Yfandes, can you give me the rundown on the drastic coordination breakdown with Karse?  Including your best attempt at passing their Imitation Game test for how they'd describe the conflict themselves?  Vanyel, you still seem not in great shape and just did 'mage' stuff on top of that, I'd suggest letting Yfandes take the lead during this conversation and chiming in with your diffs.:  It's a weirdly micromanagy thing to suggest but Thellim simply does not know what isn't obvious to this world's natives.  :Oh and by the way Vanyel, surprise, Yfandes taught me some Mindspeech exercises last night!  I have no idea if I've made enough progress that you'd notice at all, but if you did, that's why.:

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:I was wondering! It's definitely noticeable - good work: 

Vanyel leans against Yfandes' flank and gnaws on more jerky. 

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:All right. I don't know what you mean by 'Imitation Game' but I'll do my best to explain how the war started. We don't know, because they attacked without a formal declaration of war first - and because they keep murdering our envoys when we send them - but my sense is it's mostly a war over territory triggered by some internal politics, but with some religious pretext. Valdemar has always had a very firm policy that our citizens can worship whichever god they like; it dates back to the Founding, right, and King Valdemar praying to literally any of Them who'd listen? But Karse has a state religion around Vkandis Sunlord, and they go through periods where the dogma is that everyone in the world needs to be converted. By force if necessary: 

The disapproval in her mindvoice is clear. 

:- Then again, like I said, I don't know how much it's really that. The King is unpopular and apparently seen as weak, and - for some stupid reason - starting a war can be a way leaders try to show everyone how tough they are? ...And also they have more total mages than us and probably figured they could win it easily: 

A pause. 

:Unfortunately for them, they didn't know that one of our mages is Vanyel: she adds, with pride. 

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:Sorry, there's - a lot of unfamiliar concepts there - not so much the words, as the states of the world the words are talking about - so much to untangle - I'm trying to analyze this inside my own theoretical framework, trying to figure out which step of the proof that this shouldn't happen, is failing.  Why the absence of war isn't a simultaneous improvement for all the agents.  So far I've got possibilities that look like 'The absence of war isn't an improvement for an alien superbeing called Vkandis Sunlord', 'Karse thought they could consume all of Valdemar's resources, Valdemar thought Karse couldn't, and there was some prior breakdown of the theorem against common knowledge of disagreements' - though I don't see how it could still be that, presumably they know Vanyel exists now and that they aren't conquering Valdemar that easily?  Or do they still think they're about to win?  And a third possibility is that this war improves the position of the 'King', so it's good for the King but not for the rest of Karse's faction, and Yfandes knows this but the rest of Karse doesn't.  Does any of that - sound correct?  Or does it all sound equally like a clueless outworlder talking?  And are you certain that Karse is murdering envoys and Valdemar isn't doing that?:

Murdering envoys sounds really bad.  Like there's no way that could be an honest mistake or even a... she doesn't have words.  It's like a vicious assault, but taken up to the level of assaulting the meta-level where peace could happen if there needed to be peace.  If she talks to a Karsite and the Karsite plainly confesses that yes, Karse is doing that and Valdemar isn't, that's more than enough for her to side with Valdemar outright, unless there's a really big factor Yfandes isn't telling her about.  As could easily be the case, of course.

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Vanyel winces, straightening up a little; this time he does seem somewhat offended. :Gods! No, of course Valdemar doesn't murder envoys - or wouldn't if the Karsites had sent us any, as far as I know they haven't yet. And I would definitely know. Er, the King of Valdemar is one of my close friends: 

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Yfandes seems...thoughtful, mostly.

:I - don't think I really understand why you're so surprised by this happening? So maybe my explanation is missing something basic enough that I take it for granted. I...do think it's plausible the leadership of Karse had different beliefs about our relative strengths, at the start – for one, we were deliberately secretive about the strength of Vanyel's mage-gift, so they couldn't have known beforehand, and...just, in general they weren't going to have all the information on us, it'd take too much work for their spies. They did time the war for when Queen Elspeth died and King Randale took the throne; he's very young, it's not an unreasonable expectation that he'd be inexperienced at leading a war effort. And I think the last point is a good one, too: 

She doesn't mention, or acknowledge in any way, the comment about Vkandis. 

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:This doesn't happen in my world.  Not since the start of safe-to-know history.  Something must account for that difference.  It's just - so much is different - it could be that I'm mining completely the wrong resources, because this is real life, and the actual key factor is that everybody in my world knows how to prove this doesn't happen to dignified agents, and the real difference I should be looking at is something that made mathematics progress more slowly in this world, nothing to do with Karse or Valdemar in particular.  Or we could just be earlier in this world's history, before people prove the key theorems, and that stage of history looks completely different because of mage-lights and Mindspeech and gods.  In a much more practical sense, I'm trying to decide if I believe the story where, roughly, Karse is wrong and Valdemar is right.  It sounds like Vanyel is confident that he has full access to the relevant information, and he seems like a dignified person who keeps to universal Virtues, but good practice really says that I should talk to at least one Karsite about this too.  Why don't all the other factions - countries? - come in on Valdemar's side, if it's that clear-cut?:

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:- I think they mostly are? Rethwellan's allied with us, and they're sending us some non-military aid like food; I figure they're not doing more because they share quite a long stretch of border with Karse, and don't want to come under attack themselves. Hardorn is in a bad enough position right now that they're asking us for aid we don't have to spare - they're getting a lot of weather disruption from the magic we're throwing around down here, it's causing crop failures. I suppose that, where was it again - Ruvan - is loaning gold to Karse to fund their war effort, but they're on the opposite side of Karse from us, they've got a lot more trade with them so I guess it's in their interest. And Iftel is technically allied with us but they haven't expressed an opinion either way. They usually don't: 

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:This sounds like a genuinely awful mess.  I don't know whether I should react by thinking that I shouldn't walk away from it, because it's the biggest problem and the most in need of my help.  Or if I should react by asking for transportation to - to a faction without big ongoing conflicts, that's widely acknowledged as a good exemplar of virtue, that has best-in-class thinkers and builders to take advantage of the knowledge I carry.  It might depend on whether this war is the kind of problem that has a solution or if it just has to be - outgrown, by your whole world.  And if this war has a neat solution, it wasn't obvious to me inside the first few minutes of hearing you describe it.  For which I am sorry.:

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:- I think we should get you to Horn: Yfandes says after a long pause. :And maybe to Haven after that, so you can, er, talk to people who know more of the big picture right now. And after that... I don't know. Rethwellan might be a better bet, they're a bigger center of scholarship and they're not currently at war: 

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He should tell her about Leareth he should tell her about Leareth Vanyel is absolutely not going to do this without a lot more consideration of whether it's actually a good idea or a terrible one, but it's very very tempting. 

He's so tired of feeling like he has to deal with it alone. 

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:Not alone: Yfandes reminds him, privately. :Never: 

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...This is now a long enough silence to be awkward. 

:Are you done eating?: Vanyel asks her, curtly. :Let's keep moving: 

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She obeys the emergency command, even if it's not phrased in the expected format for one.

Why does she feel bad about the state the conversation got to?  Oh, right.  Because her brain thinks she's not supposed to decide that, just because their problem is hard to unravel, it's okay to go to a neutral university instead.  She's supposed to understand what's really happening here, and why, and then she can decide whether this world can be helped most effectively by working inside Valdemar or outside it.

She just doesn't know whether that's sane non-suicidal reasoning in real life.

Her fiction-pattern-recognition center is likewise raising questions about how likely it is that she landed next to a very powerful and self-sacrificing mage by pure coincidence.  And also likewise she doesn't know if that, either, is good reasoning for her life now.

:Talking to people who know more about the big picture sounds like a good idea,: she sends after she's had time to think that far.  :I shouldn't make any big decisions until I know all the info that's cheap to obtain and maybe a bit more.:

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:Mmm: 

And they ride on in silence, while the light slowly creeps into the forest. It's not raining yet but the sky definitely seems to be considering it. 

Neither Vanyel nor Yfandes seem to be in a very talkative mood, right now. 

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She's got plenty to think about.  Or for that matter, dreamy half-pseudo-dozes to go into to catch up on interrupted sleep.

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Yfandes provides a very smooth ride, especially now that she's only moving at a trot and the forest is thinning out a bit; Thellim isn't in much danger of slipping off even if she does doze. 

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It's about noon when they reach the outskirts of the forest, and ride into a trampled-down field of mud. There are tents visible, and hastily-raised log buildings, and further off, a road and signs of more permanent settlement. 

People, mostly in blue uniforms but some in the same white garb as Vanyel and a handful in green robes, are milling around. A couple of white horses, resembling Yfandes, are grazing on some sad-looking grass a ways off. 

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Vanyel, who's been dozing as well, blinks fully awake as Yfandes comes to a stop. :Ah, we're here! Thellim, welcome to Horn: 

He dismounts, more stiffly than before after a full morning in the saddle, and helps her down. :Want me to drop you off in the mess hall while I go get Yfandes settled?: 

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Yfandes whickers at him. :Van, love, go eat your food. I'll get one of the stablehands to look after me: 

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:I'll go wherever you think best, or wherever I'm needed.:  Thellim may still be feeling guilty about even suggesting that she not help them with their mess.

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Yfandes nudges them both in the direction of one of the ramshackle log buildings; this one is mostly just a roof and two walls, its open sides half-draped with canvas. 

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Vanyel leans her in. 

Inside, it's simultaneously drafty, and smoky from the braziers burning in the corners for heat; it doesn't seem to be either heated or lit with magic. There are long tables with benches, currently about half-full, tired men and women – mostly men, but a solid twenty percent of the blue-uniformed people are female, and for the handful in Vanyel's style of white uniform it's about fifty-fifty.

There are also some children hanging around, tidying up or carrying plates and drinks to the adults, one of them accepting a rolled-up message of some kind. Some of them have a paler blue version of the uniform; others are dressed in ragged, random clothing. 

Vanyel sags down onto the nearest bench with a groan of relief. 

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"- Vanyel?" A voice from across the room, then running footsteps. "Van! Gods, it is you!"

The words, of course, aren't understandable to Thellim, but Vanyel's name is. A few seconds later, a tall woman in the standard blue tunic, with some extra decorations around the shoulders, is pulling him into her arms. Like most of the others in the room, she looks tired and somewhat underfed, but not nearly as starved as Vanyel. 

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Vanyel gives an embarrassed grunt, then sighs and relaxes into her embrace. 

:- Oh, sorry. Thellim, this is General Lissa Ashkevron. My sister: 

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Thellim is trying to take in much information from which important deductions may be made, mostly having to do with a visceral shock of what the phrase "lower GDP per capita" actually means that's making her feel like something just hit her hard in the solar plexus.  What a nice town this is!  The barely-transformed raw materials composing it might cost six whole months of her earnings!

...children have to live here.

They're living here right now.  Look, there they are!  Right in front of her.  Children who either can't afford the raw materials for clothing, or can't afford to transform them, including whatever resources their adult relatives are willing to spend on their behalf.

If the whole world is like this, there can't possibly be any priority higher than more economic growth NOW.

She manages to turn her attention away from the children in ragged clothing and pay attention to the Vanyel grabber, enough that she's focused when she gets the Mindspeech.

:Hello.  'General' Lissa Ashkevron - that sounds like authority?  Your brother is literally starving to death due to 'magic' making it hard for him to eat, and him having only what I'm guessing are standard emergency rations.  He needs something much more palatable.  I'm -:  What level of restricted information is she?  She forgot to think about this, so will default to 'high'.  :- not from around here so I may have had an easier time of noticing this.  I'm sure it would have been nice to meet you if I'd met you under kinder circumstances.:

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Mindspeaking her is noticeably a little harder than doing it with Vanyel, as though Thellim needs to handle more of the work herself, but it seems to get through. 

Lissa blinks, taking a step back with her hands on Vanyel's shoulders and turning to nod at Thellim before looking her brother over. "I was wondering what you'd gone and done to yourself out there! Wasn't sure if I ought to go smack 'Fandes for not taking care of you, or if it's your own damned fault."

Helpfully, she thinks the words loudly as well; it's a bit murkier to pick up the response but Thellim can manage.

"Well. If you want palatable, don't start here. The cooks do their best and it's better than travel-rations but not by much. Come on, let's go back to my tent and I'll get us some real lunch." 

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Vanyel squirms, clearly embarrassed. "Liss, you don't have t–" 

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"Van, please let me abuse my rank just this once. I bet I can wrangle getting us some venison, special. And fresh bread, and butter..." 

She takes her brother's arm and starts leading him off at a brisk walk. 

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Despite all of the horror around her, accomplishing her long-held goal 'insert food into Vanyel' feels surprisingly good!  If she keeps up this trend of accomplishing her goals, she will be able to bring peace between Karse and Valdemar, and then multiply global GDP by a factor of... 40?  40 sounds about right.

If Lissa or Vanyel doesn't explicitly try to bring Thellim along, she'll try to figure out how to get food inside this hall.  It wouldn't occur to her to be worried about going unescorted; she can tell people she's Vanyel's charge, and the world is full of sensible cooperative people.

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Vanyel does, once they reach the door, catch up mentally enough to glance back and check if she's following. :...Oh, sorry. You should come too - I meant to introduce you to Lissa later anyway, we can cover both at once: 

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They walk down a muddy aisle between rows of canvas tents. Close up, the camp/town is in some ways slightly more impressive than from a distance; the tents are made from fabric that sheds water in beads and looks very durable and tough, if not pretty, and are cleverly designed, with long double-stitched pockets to hold the poles, eaves to catch and shed rainwater and openable 'windows'. But it's also much more noticeable how everything is various degrees of damp, or muddy, or just generally grimy. Most of the people they pass have their hoods up and their eyes on the ground, though nearly all of them recognize Lissa and nod or salute her. 

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Lissa's tent is twice as big as most of the others, and proves to contain two 'rooms', the back one separated by a hanging curtain; it also has actual furniture, for some definition of 'furniture', all of it is clearly built to be lightweight and portable. There's a rug laid over the usual sheet of canvas on the ground, a mat by the entry-flap to wipe their feet, a folding table with an array of stools, and even a bookshelf.  

A child of about eleven - probably a girl, though it's hard to tell with her short-cropped hair and grimy face - jumps up, and Lissa smiles and politely asks her to please bring something over for lunch. "For three people. Thank you, Sheri." 

Lissa hastily rolls up the map spread out on her table and stows it away on the bookshelf, then pulls out some stools and pats them. "Have a seat!" She pulls down a jug from on top of the shelves, and retrieves a stack of ceramic cups from lower down. 

"Van, gods, it's so good to see you, you have no idea. And your friend, from 'not around here'...?" She pours a cup of what looks like somewhat-diluted wine, and plops it in front of Thellim. "I'm very curious!" 

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Vanyel, unsure how much of this Thellim can possibly be getting given that Lissa isn't a Mindspeaker, relays a translation. 

:...You can tell her: he adds. :I trust her. Er, or if it's too tiring I can explain - I'm impressed you can Mindspeak her at all, it's a lot harder with someone who's not Gifted and most Heralds can't: 

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Oh, really?  She'll worry later about whether Psion Mistress Thellim is going to be a thing again, or not, and whether anybody has previously checked whether Lissa is unusually receptive to Mindspeech in general.  For now, Thellim focuses her thoughts the way she was taught, pushing harder than she does when it's just Vanyel or Yfandes.

:I'm from another universe, likely with different fundamental laws of physics and not contiguous with this spatial metric at all.  I was in the crash of an aerial transportation device that almost certainly should have killed me, and found myself here instead.  I don't know how it happened - I wasn't expecting to come here - and Vanyel says it's unprecedented to him too.  So I never get to see any of my friends again, but on the plus side it looks like I can do far more good here than I could ever have dreamed of doing in my homeworld.  We know some things you don't, methods that should also work here - truths closer to mathematical ideals than local facts, or tricks that could take advantage of the apparent macroscopic similarity of physical laws.  It is not an exaggeration to say that this might be the most epochal event your world's economy has ever experienced.  This event has larger metaphysical implications too, obviously, but I think we've all been tacitly agreeing to talk about that part later, and keep the current discussion more to Mindspeech how-tos and the issue between Valdemar and Karse.  Oh, and if that all sounds insane, a close look at my shirt ought to show that it was manufactured by techniques unfamiliar to you and which would obviously be in wide use if they were known here?  If that doesn't work I can prove some clearly important novel theorems.:

(Thellim has yet to make the connection between per-capita real GDP and the average level of mathematical discourse people can handle.  You don't need material resources to do math, that's the whole point.)

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Lissa listens intently until Thellim is done, and then leans back on her stool and crosses her arms, frowning to herself. 

:- First of all: she says finally, :you'd best keep in mind that I'm not as smart as my brother here - maybe all that made more sense to him, I don't know. If Van believes you, then I believe him. And - wow. Just. Wow: She turns on her brother. :Van, why is your life always so bizarre?: 

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:It's not my fault!: 

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:Anyway. Van, are you dumping her on me to figure out what to do with?: 

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He shoots an apologetic look Thellim's way. :We were talking a bit, I thought it might make sense to send her to Haven. Randi's going to want to know. ...Gods, it'd almost be worth Gating, except -: 

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:Except, don't you dare: Lissa rolls her eyes. :Do they have Gates where you're from, Thellim?: 

The context coming along with the word indicates that a Gate os like a doorway, but also a kind of long-distance transport - instantaneous transport? And definitely magical. 

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Thellim can't even imagine how much money that's worth aside from 'all of it'.

:No.: she manages. :We have no public knowledge of INSTANTANEOUS LOGISTICS.  Or glowy lights that follow people around.  Or that thing I'm doing to talk to you right now - Yfandes trained me in Mindspeech on the way here... wait.  Vanyel, there are non-Mindspeakers?  I missed that greater implication the first time, and I don't think anybody mentioned that to me before.  What else does it mean that I'm a Mindspeaker?:

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:...Come to think of it, that part's especially weird? Because it's new, right, Mindspeech doesn't exist in your world - how does that even work - gods, I should've noticed sooner that it doesn't make any sense. Er, you presumably also have Thoughtsensing - you wouldn't have noticed as much with 'Fandes or I because we shield ourselves, and then she taught you shielding, but you could read other people's minds if you wanted– er, not Lissa either, she has a talisman to block it: Having important military commanders be vulnerable to spies with Thoughtsensing is a terrible idea. 

:Also you'll be able to tell where other people are, within your range - which we can test - oh and maybe I ought to test you for other Gifts too? Have you noticed anything else?: 

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:I haven't noticed anything else yet, but I haven't been instructed to look for anything either.  'Gifts', they're called?  Does somebody usually Give them?  And... I feel guilty about possibly disrupting food conversation over this, not to mention disrupting the food itself.  But if you need to slap some precautionary psionics-nullifying bracelets on me to prevent me from exploding in case I have the Gift of Detonation, even I will admit this to be a higher priority.:

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:Fortunately: Lissa says dryly, :even if you are a mage you can't explode by accident. - Oh! And here's our food: 

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Vanyel seems a lot more enthusiastic about fresh bread with butter than he was about jerky and rock-solid cheese. 

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Oh, they do know how to make passable food here.  One of her early, more worried hypotheses was that the stuff Vanyel had been issued was the tastiest stuff their tiny economy had figured out how to make.

:Sorry again for disrupting the conversation.  My beliefs are far out of equilibrium with this new world, so all kinds of discussions are Suddenly Happening just because there's so much changing inside my mind all the time, rather than small probability updates being localized to particular outside events.  I think - the last topic was about getting me to Haven, somebody named Randi would want to know, but we don't dare use the Gate?:

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:I - react badly to Gates. It's inconvenient - it'd still get you there faster but then I'd be out of commission for days. But now that we're here, we should be able to get you a horse - it'll be about a week's ride: 

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:'Horse' is - I'm trying to go by the image I got with the word - like a much less intelligent version of Yfandes?  I'm a little worried about that - do they ever take their riders to the wrong city by accident?  I won't know how to change its directions.:

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Lissa is trying SO HARD not to snicker. 

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:Well, we should send you with an escort. I don't think it's a great idea to send you up the South Trade Road alone anyway - er, I'm guessing you don't have much in the way of self-defense training?: 

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Oh, that concept came through clearly!  :Yes!  Yes, we do, in fact!  People sometimes go literally insane and try to hurt each other no matter what kind of clever equilibria you construct, so I have Civilization's standard training to instill defensive-only reflexes against unarmed attackers or attackers with the most statistically common improvised weapons such as kitchen knives.  I can also coordinate with at least four other people who've had the same training in order to non-injuriously overpower somebody who needs restraining.  And on a larger scale I would have helped convert a factory near me into making tank treads, in case Civilization suddenly needed to defend itself against aliens or whatever.  Roughly, we've optimized for making people harder to hurt by defectors, as much as we can do that without amplifying the hurt from defectors.  Though... I have no idea what to do if I'm attacked by two people.  That's much more of a professionals-only situation.:

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Vanyel sighs. :Your world must be...really something. Our roads aren't too bad - definitely safer than Hardorn - but I wouldn't recommend that anyone travel alone–: 

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:You do!: 

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:Hey! 'Fandes is also a person, so no, I do not travel alone! ...And Lissa could probably fight off a dozen bandits if she had to. We'll send you with someone. Ideally a Herald plus a few Guards: 

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:But I–: 

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:Van: Lissa folds her arms. :I am going to pass a message to Haven and inform King Randale that he needs to give you a few weeks of leave before he works his most powerful weapon to death. You look terrible: 

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:Van, there won't be a better time - the Karsites are slowing down for winter too. And pulling men off the border to get crops in down south before it's too late and half the damned kingdom starves. I could wish they were worse at planni–: 

She stops herself. :No, actually, I can't wish that: 

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Vanyel closes his eyes. :There'll be children starving to death this winter in Valdemar too, won't there. Lissa, I've ridden up and down this stretch of border a dozen times - I saw the fields they burned...: 

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If anybody's paying attention, Thellim folded over on herself shortly after Vanyel talked about children starving to death in winter.  She comes from a world where bad things have happened ever, but the televisions and radios don't make a habit of exposing a billion people to the mental image every time it happens once.  Televisions and radios try to expose people to statistically accurate shadows of reality where things are discussed about as often as the listeners are likely to encounter them.

Thellim has zero defense against words like 'children starving to death this winter'.

...this place...

...wouldn't be able to save their brains either.  They're gone.  Will be gone.  She has until winter to undo those burned fields or children will starve to death.

She tries to wake up.  She doesn't like this dream anymore.

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Vanyel notices, and taps Lissa, who stops saying things. 

He...isn't sure what to say or do. It's oddly hard to put himself in the shoes of someone who - well - it's not that she has the wrong reaction, even, she has the right reaction - he doesn't want to keep whacking her with things that hurt but there are so many things she doesn't know, things that might be dangerous, if she keeps walking into situations all innocent and unawares, with completely the wrong reflexes for a world that's...normal... 

Of course, she thinks her world is the normal one. She must. 

(Vanyel is aware that intense embarrassment on Valdemar's behalf is not the most helpful way to feel about this, but he's feeling it anyway.) 

:I'm sorry: he says finally. :I was - I wanted to ask if your world...knew anything relevant to crops...but we can talk about it later. A few candlemarks aren't time-critical for this: 

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:Crop rotation fertilizer artificial fertilizer plant breeding irrigation hydroponics root vegetables no there's no time not unless spring is just starting Vanyel you're going to have to trade for food from other countries there's nothing else I know that works that fast do you have already cheap books if books are expensive I can explain printing presses Valdemar can trade books for food but oh no no no does that mean other children just starve elsewhere there's got to be surplus in the system right there's got to be some slack in the system even here:

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:I...:

The thing Vanyel is thinking is that Thellim, if she ever met Leareth, would have a fascinating conversation and he kind of wishes he could see it - but also this is almost certainly a terrible idea, she's so - unguarded - she's less prepared to deal with Leareth than he ever was. And also 'I know someone who wants to fix this stupid problem too, but he's intending to do it by conquering my Kingdom so I can't endorse his plan' is...not going to be reassuring. 

He takes a deep breath. :Maybe. Hardorn keeps leaning on us for grain that we don't have, and Rethwellan's already sending us food - maybe further south - it's nearly winter, it'll be impossible to cross the Comb soon, I think it's too late for a caravan from Jkatha or Ruvan or...: wow he's too tired to remember geography, :or wherever else south, to make it here - but if we had something valuable enough to pay for Gating supplies, and could arrange that fast enough...: 

He shrugs, helplessly. :I don't know. Hadn't even considered it since, well, we don't have the coin to spare. Didn't. I hope you're right, that your world's knowledge is worth gold...: 

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:Get me to Haven.  I'll take responsibility.:

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Vanyel exchanges a slightly shaky look with his sister. 

:I think this is worth a Gate: 

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:Van, weren't you unconscious for days last time?: 

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:I think I'm getting better with it! I - we could send word for Savil, ask if she's up for it - I want to be there but crossing someone else's Gate isn't quite as bad... It's worth it either way though: 

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A long sigh. 

:...Tomorrow. You can get some solid meals and a night's sleep in a real bed and then be an idiot if you want, but not today: 

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:You're not actually in my chain of command, and if you were I'd outrank you: Vanyel is smiling a little, though. :Fine. Stuff me full of food, we'll get word to Savil, and worst case scenario I'll Gate us at first light tomorrow and someone else will have to do the explaining: 

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:I need to know how books are usually produced, how much they usually cost, and some idea of what the demand function for them looks like, so I can figure out whether I should be trying to build a printing press or something else.  If I should be building a printing press then I can start talking about that now with a local engineer, and if not I need to figure out the next most valuable thing I know how to create.:

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Vanyel starts to answer, and realizes with a flash of fresh embarrassment that he doesn't have the slightest idea how much books cost. As a child, the house came stocked with his grandfathers' library, and as a Herald he just looks up books in the Palace library or else makes a request to the Temple of Astera - oh that's a good thought, actually, their order does book-copying, and there's even a temple in Horn, he can send her there and she can get all her questions answered... 

:I'm not sure, but I know where you can go to find out: He frowns at Lissa. :Do we even have long enough to get a message across the Comb, if I come up with something to write? I kind of lost track of the date: 

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:- Ugh, just a second, I need to check - it's very rude how it keeps changing, you know...: 

Lissa tells him. 

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:There are two things I need to know.  One.  Whether the best current method of making books creates a thousand copies at a time or one copy at a time.  Two.  Whether there's a book or class of books where, if you could produce thousands of them, you could sell enough of that kind of book to buy enough of the food you need.  If either of those questions has the wrong answer, I can try to remember half-remembered lessons on how to rebuild Civilization if it vanished overnight, talk to your metal-workers, and see if I can recreate the next step up from your current metallurgy.  Do you already have 'steel'?:

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Vanyel is not answering. It's sort of unclear, at this point, whether he's even tracking the conversation anymore. 

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Damn it is she going to have to answer this by HERSELF. She's also suddenly very worried about Vanyel, but that can wait thirty seconds. Probably. Hopefully. 

:Er, one copy at a time. And...gods...a thousand copies of one book is hard to even imagine, but - maybe there's something?: She bites back a wholly inappropriate snicker. :If we could sell the Karsites copies of their damned holy book. Imagine that. Van's the bookish one of us, though, and he...: 

She's really not sure how to explain, though, and also Vanyel might kick her if she tries, so she trails off awkwardly. 

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Thellim has picked up on the sudden mental silence too.  Oh no, did this remind him of romance somehow?  Focus Mindspeech on Lissa only, calm down and remember the techniques Yfandes taught.  :Lissa, did I say something wrong to Vanyel?  Should I see if I can reach Yfandes from here?:

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:It's, um, the time of year: Who told Thellim about the romance thing. Van never talks about it. :I'm sure Yfandes knows he's upset, but I guess you can try for her anyway: 

Since Lissa, at least, can also see with her eyes that Vanyel is upset, but still has no idea what to do about this. He hasn't even finished more than half of his food.

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Deep breaths.  Calm down.  Frantic flailing is the first step towards solving some problems, but not a majority, and it's almost never the second step.

Focus on the Companion, even though she's not here.  Should distance mean anything in the first place to a world that seems to be treating mental things as ontologically basic, that lets thoughts be transferred between brains with no doubt widely-different internal coding formats, and even different species?  Maybe there's a real distance dependency and maybe there isn't, but she's not going to throw added difficulties in her own pathway by starting from the assumption that there is.  Remember the mental laugh when Thellim suggested that she pre-chew Vanyel's food, that feels like the realest thing about her...

:Yfandes?:

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:Yes?: Surprise, and she gets a very brief sort of flash of Yfandes' surroundings. :Are you with Van - should I come -?: 

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:We were having a stressful conversation and I - may have been stupid - I forgot that Vanyel has had a worse time than I have - I was talking about my bright ideas for making something Valdemar could trade for food before - people starved - and not restraining my own emotions while I was doing that.  The last thing that happened was Vanyel asked Lissa the date, and Lissa told him, Lissa said the time of year is relevant somehow but didn't say how.  Now Vanyel's gone mentally quiet and physically quiet, frozen up like a... complicated information manipulation device that's been given bad instructions.  I don't suppose there's such a thing as a Mindspeech technique that takes a quick peek to see if anything bad is happening inside somebody's head, versus their suddenly needing a quiet five minutes but predictably being fine after that?:

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:It's not your fault: Yfandes answers instantly, soothing. :It's - complicated. Damn it, I should have been keeping an eye on the dates... Er, there's a particular festival when...a bad thing happened, years ago. And it's in two days. Usually he has more time to prepare for it: 

She hesitates. 

:I don't know of a Mindspeech technique, no, but...this might be an important enough camp to have a Mindhealer? If I can persuade him to see them. Which will take some doing. I don't think he'll get stuck frozen, but...this time of year is hard enough for him when it's not in the middle of a war: 

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:Somebody mentioned that Mindspeech is rare and a lot of Mindspeakers can't make themselves heard by non-Mindspeakers.  I didn't realize that before, I thought it was just something anybody here could do with training.  I also started Mindspeaking Lissa before anybody told me I couldn't do that.  I don't know if you need a Mindspeaking human with Vanyel frozen up, but I'm at your disposal if required.:  Time spent trying to Engineer here is probably not that valuable compared to time spent with higher-level engineers in Haven, and right now Thellim isn't sure if she should be building printing presses or looms or looking for oil fields or finding some other application of her world's teachings.

:...and it's also very possible that I know a hundred times as much about how brains work as anybody else on this planet, if Mindhealing is something I can do and you can tell me how to do it and any of my knowledge carries over.:

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:Oh: 

Another, even more startled pause. 

:I - I'd be surprised if you can. It's a very rare Gift; there are only a handful in the whole Kingdom, er, that's a population of about half a million. I don't know much about it except that it's one of the more dangerous Gifts to muck around with untrained:

:But -: another brief pause, this time with a sense of decision and brisk motion, as though Thellim is half-overhearing Yfandes sticking her head through a different imaginary doorway to call out to someone else, :sounds like there is a Mindhealer posted in Horn. I've been wishing Van would see someone new ever since Lance died, and she might well be able to make use of whatever knowledge you have: 

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: P( Mindhealer ) ≈ 0.00001
  P( Mindspeaker ) < 0.01 (?)
  P( Arrived from alternate universe ) << 0.00000001
  P( Mindspeaker | Arrived from alternate universe) >> 0.01 (?)
  P( Mindhealer | Mindspeaker & Arrived from alternate universe ) = ????? ≈ 0.5

which is to say that my probability of being a Mindhealer is probably dictated not at all by the base rate, and entirely by whatever process decided I should be a Mindspeaker and materialized me here next to a best-in-class mage -

- no, sorry, that's not the key point right now.  Yfandes, I won't be offended if you drop this call and go find the Mindhealer yourself, if that's simpler than explaining things to me.  Otherwise I'm very much reduced to child status right now, in terms of how much adult direction I need.  If you suddenly blinked out of existence, I suppose I'd ask Lissa and then others where to find Horn's Mindhealer, then ask the Mindhealer to come to Vanyel.  If there's any way I can do things more efficiently than that, like by coming to you so you can speak through me to other humans, you'll have to direct me more explicitly.:

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A pause. :I - sorry - Van - this is very distracting...: 

Yfandes gives herself a sort of mental shake. :I suppose you should come with me to the Healers' compound, I won't fit inside. And - hmm, could you ask Lissa to write a note under her authority with an urgent request to speak to the Mindhealer here as soon as possible? ...We may still have to wait awhile, as I'm sure you can imagine they're going to be very busy: 

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:Lissa, Yfandes wants you to write me a note under your authority with an urgent request to speak to the Mindhealer here ASAP, then I'm to come with Yfandes to the Healers' compound.  She thinks we may have to wait a while because the Mindhealer will be very busy.  I know very little of what's going on here but I'm worried that Yfandes, despite being moderately better about this than Vanyel, may still have a strange blind spot about the actual relative importance of Vanyel to Valdemar and what that implies about optimal distribution of resources.  So the thought occurs to me that you might want to word that note somewhat more strongly, at your own discretion and if I'm not making some stupid mistake here.:

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:...I wouldn't be surprised if she does. Damned Heralds, they're all like that: Lissa is already reaching for the neat stack of note-stationary on a different shelf. :Should I stay with him here? I don't - I'm not sure what to do...: 

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:I'd guess either that, or take him somewhere else, but I'll ask.  Yfandes, Lissa wants to know if she should stay with Vanyel.:

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:- Probably stay here, it's not like we have our tent set up yet or anything, and this one's much nicer: Yfandes still feels very worried, but more decisive now that they have a PLAN. 

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Lissa finishes her note, folds it, and applies what looks like a pre-stamped wax seal with a sticky backing; she's clearly practiced at this too, it takes her a couple of seconds.

She passes it over to Thellim, and then slides her chair closer to Vanyel and, somewhat stiffly, puts her arm around his shoulders. 

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Thellim takes the note, then moves as directed in order to meet Yfandes outside the Healers' compound.

It's not the first time she's had a friend in trouble, but it's the first time she's seen somebody in enough trouble that they went blank like that, and something about the overall danger level of this world makes it all feel worse.

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The Healers' compound is an actual building! Several buildings, actually; they look like repurposed houses or storefronts, and a sort of canvas canopy is spread over poles in front to allow passage between them without getting wet. 

A child of about fourteen or fifteen, in pale spring-green robes - not a colour that does particularly well when splattered with mud and what may or may not be dried bloodstains - is sitting on a crate out front, under the canvas.

She hops up when she sees them arriving. Then gives Thellim a very confused double-take. "Herald...?" 

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:Healing trainee: Yfandes clarifies helpfully. :It'll startle her less if you do the talking. I can in theory, but we don't make a habit of it: 

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:I'm a Mindspeaker, taking direction from and acting as relay for Yfandes, the Companion beside me.:  Thellim holds up the folded note with seal.  :Orders from General Lissa about our seeing a Mindhealer, quickly.  Please direct us to the relevant higher authority for handling this matter, or send us on directly to the Mindhealer if that's just as simple.:

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The girl blinks at them for a moment. :Oh. Sure: She reaches to take the note. :Uh, wait here please, I'll go ask: 

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:Please hurry.:  (It will not otherwise occur to Thellim that there's anything wrong about handing Lissa's note to a random person; they wouldn't try to take it if they weren't supposed to do that.)

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(Yfandes also doesn't object to this plan.) 

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The trainee is back a couple of minutes later. :She's finishing up with someone now but she'll talk to you right after: She looks vaguely impressed about this. :Uh, you can come wait inside if you want, it's warmer...: 

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:Well, I can't, but you go ahead if you're cold: Yfandes seems unbothered by being excluded. 

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:I'll head in.:  With Mindspeech she'll still be adjacent to Yfandes in the main sense that matters.

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'Inside' is a narrow, poorly-lit hallway, with a floor of bare unfinished boards and a staircase peeling off to an upper level. There are benches lined up against one wall, and people sitting on them, presumably waiting to be seen by a Healer; they're nearly all visibly injured, though not badly enough that they can't walk or sit up, just nursing sprained-or-broken limbs close to their bodies or holding pressure on bleeding cuts. The Healing trainee shows her a section of bench and then darts off to get a shivering, coughing man a blanket. 

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...lower tech level.  Right.  And they're not doing anything obviously stupid given their tech level, and there isn't anything that jumps out at her that her own emergency training says she's supposed to do without tools.

:Yfandes, do your people already know that diseases are carried by tiny organisms, bacteria and virii, which can be killed by boiling water?  The implication is that bandages need to be washed in boiling water before their re-use, in order to avoid transmitting infections between wounds and patients.  Assuming that's still true in this world and not just my world.  It seems like the sort of thing that might still be true.  Is there - do you know - if there's somebody at this Healers' compound to whom I should be saying that?  Or do your people know it already?:

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:- They know that. Healers can See quite a lot, and their Collegium in Haven does some of the most advanced research I'm aware of anywhere: A brief burst of pride. :I hope you get the chance to meet Shavri, later. She's one of Van's closest friends, and lifebonded to King Randale; she's also the best and cleverest Healer I've ever met, I'm sure she would love to ask you all about what your world knows: 

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An adult Healer in darker green robes nudges aside the curtain hung at the end of the hallway, looks around questioningly. 

The trainee points at Thellim. :You can go back: she says a moment later. :Melody can talk to you now: 

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Thellim attempts to 'go back'.  Is there a unique obvious 'Melody' visible at the end of this operation?

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There's a bigger room with more doors leading off from it; there are multiple people in green robes, but most of them are clearly busy, examining patients or hurrying toward one of the other destination rooms. 

One red-haired woman is standing next to an iron woodstove, which is providing an actually-quite-reasonable quantity of heat to the room, and pouring water from a kettle heated on top of it into a ceramic teapot. She looks about forty, and also reasonably well-fed; she might even have been stout before the war, and is still solidly built.

Teapot filled, she sets it down on a nearby sideboard and then glances around, tapping her fingers against her thigh and fidgeting at her collar with her other hand. Her eyes land on Thellim, and she blinks owlishly. :You the one looking for me?: 

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(to Yfandes) :Yfandes, I'll try echoing this conversation to you.  Feel free to correct me, give me things to add, or jump in directly.:

(to the red-haired woman) :If you're Melody, the Mindhealer, I am.  Have you seen General Lissa's note?  Vanyel has frozen up and it seemed like a good and urgent time to call in a professional.  I'm not fully acquainted with the details, but I'm Mindspeaking to Yfandes the Companion and can relay questions and answers with her.:

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:- His Companion is willing to talk to you directly? Huh, must really be exceptional circumstances. I did see the note, it was quite forceful: 

Melody's mindvoice is fast and feels very clean, somehow, with minimal emotional leakage. She seems to fidget nonstop, shifting her weight from one foot to the other even while standing still, adjusting her hair or smoothing her robe or tugging her sleeve straight. 

:'Frozen up' isn't very specific and neither was the note. Understandable, but - do you have anything to go on other than that, for why you thought this was particularly serious and time-sensitive?: 

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:Vanyel is - was - in the middle of doing time-sensitive work.  I - I also have the sense - that Vanyel has been severely neglecting self-care for a long time, in a way that strikes me as strange, but I don't know how much that's - my being raised with a different viewpoint, I'm using Mindspeech because I'm not from Valdemar and don't speak this language.  I don't have the expectation that a 'Herald' will starve themselves nearly to death for no obvious reason, while trying to do vital work that the whole faction of Valdemar is depending on, instead of requisitioning better food to make up for the effect of mage-work on appetite - there are things that Yfandes and Lissa aren't telling me, something about this time of year, and I don't know whether it's a security secret or a privacy secret, but Lissa is with Vanyel, and you could ask Lissa so Yfandes doesn't have to relay secrets through me - Yfandes also said something about, I think, Vanyel's previous Mindhealer having died, and Vanyel having not seen anyone since, despite Yfandes wanting him to -:  Stop.  Pause.  Recollect yourself, Thellim.  It can be a disadvantage, in a way, that Mindspeech lets you babble at top speed indefinitely and never stop to breathe.  :I'm sorry for babbling.  I have no idea whether Vanyel needs you urgently or not.  From our standpoint he's just frozen.  If Mindhealing lets you take a look at him and assess for yourself how much trouble he's in, I think, given the relative magnitude of his importance to Valdemar and that Vanyel's work is urgent, it's worth your time to run over and do that assessment, unless the second most powerful mage in Valdemar is here and in much worse trouble.:

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Melody absorbs all of this patiently, though she spends the entire time pacing in a tight circle. 

:...Well. That certainly does sound concerning. It'd be uncharacteristic for any Herald I've ever met to just - drop urgent work like that unless somewhere were very badly wrong. I think I'd better come have a look. Just need another minute for my tea to finish steeping. You could tell me about where you're from? General Lissa mentioned in the note you weren't from Valdemar but didn't say more and I confess you've gotten my curiosity piqued: 

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If it's only going to be a minute, then Thellim is going to assume, hope, and pretend that this tea is vital to this person's professional function, instead of checking this delay-decision for Valdemarian Deranged Lack Of Optimization Syndrome.

:I haven't been told of my security classification status as yet, but I'm from far enough away that I know many things that are not known here, and fail to know much that is common knowledge here.  I suspect I will prove to know an unusual amount about how brains and minds work, and should work, and some of that may be useful for a Mindhealer; but I wouldn't know where to start explaining - it's a rather huge edifice of mathematical and scientific knowledge.  Ah, Mindhealers are rarer still, where I'm from, and I doubt that anybody from my city has ever seen one.:

Oops, did she send any unfortunate connotations when she thought the word 'city', such as said city containing roughly twenty times the population Yfandes ascribed to Valdemar?  Oh, well, too late now.

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Melody's eyebrows make interesting motions at various points during this, but if she notices the 'city' connotation, she doesn't ask. 

:Well, I would love to discuss that, later when we're not so time-pressed: She's pouring herself some tea into a sturdy ceramic mug with a wider bottom than top. :Anyway, let's go: 

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Yfandes is waiting for both of them outside, also pacing. The sky is definitely threatening more rain.

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Thellim will stride forth with great alacrity, in order to set a good example.

(Yfandes only.)  :Yfandes, any objection if I ask Melody how somebody can tell if they have the Mindhealing Gift?  And if I don't have it - arguendo, Mindspeech must transfer the content of thought as loaded by words, not just the words themselves, since it works across language barriers and conceptual barriers.  With more practice, better methods, or just trying harder, can I telepathically link with Melody in order to get a look at the sensorimotor input-output of Mindhealing?  Obviously we'd want her to try conventional methods on Vanyel first, but part of me is thinking ahead to the possibility that I was dropped on your vicinity specifically because Vanyel was about to crash and my knowledge would prove necessary to restart him - it's a wild guess, but there's too much going on that can't be coincidence, I just don't know which noncoincidence it all is, so I'm guessing in all directions.:

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:...Maybe: Yfandes seems unconvinced, or dubious - or maybe like she's no longer looking around for reasons because she already knows something that she isn't saying...? It's hard to read too much fine detail into the exact emotional overtones around her Mindspeech, though. 

:Anyway, sharing Gift senses is definitely a thing you can do, it's called concert-Sight. It's trickier, takes most people a lot of training, but you're a fast learner. And, of course I don't object if you ask Melody that. Probably neither will she, I think she's terribly curious about you:

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(To Melody, echoing to Yfandes.)  :By the way - though, feel free to tell me to take this up again later, if it's a long question - how does somebody tell if they have the Mindhealing talent?  I should probably check that off-chance before I start trying to learn concert-Sight to investigate Mindhealing.:

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:Hmm. I don't mind checking, but usually you'd know by now if you were: Melody sips her tea without once either breaking her stride or spilling any of it. :And it takes some time, and concentration for me, so I'd rather save it for not-an-emergency: 

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:Acknowledged.:  That's all Thellim can think of that requires her to bother Melody or Yfandes right away, so she'll spend the rest of the stride to the General's tent thinking.

From the perspective of fictional patterns, it's surprising she was handed any unearned power that's rare to this world's natives, above and beyond her possession of her homeworld's knowledge.  It subverts any moral arc of the story about winning by thinking, and makes the lessons less useful in real life... which is to say, a 'real life' she's never going back to, so maybe that literary pattern shouldn't apply?  Or, again, this situation may not obey any fictional patterns - maybe after you die in a vehicular crash, you appear in another world able to use all local extraordinary powers; that could just be the way reality is, instead of it being like fiction.  Or her being able to use multiple Gifts could be the starting premise of a more unusual literary mystery, in which she needs to figure out which Gifts actually matter, if she has other Gifts to act as potential distractions.

Alternatively, some optimizing power could have given her exactly the Gifts she'll need in the future, and no others - which would be a very overt development for a story plot, but much more to be expected from real life where some agent is properly optimizing for an objective.  Arguendo, if concert-Sight lets her operate all the other Gifts secondhand, that would be a clear rationale for a resource-constrained optimizer to give her only Mindspeech, if it could give her Gifts but doing so was costly.  It's hard to see why something that could bring her here from dath ilan, couldn't just give her all this world's Gifts?  But if the intervener isn't limited in some way, it could have constructed a fully optimized avatar instead of her, or acted on this world directly instead of by proxy.

She can pick up this thread of thought again after she learns which Gifts she has; but it is good practice to think through in advance the conditional predictions of alternative theories, before seeing the data.  Anti-hindsight-bias training is powerful, but not perfect, and making advance predictions just works.

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They reach the tent just before the rain starts in earnest. Melody, rather than knocking - since there's not exactly a door to knock on - just clears her throat and then calls out. "May we come in?"

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"Yes, of course!" 

Lissa is still sitting with her stool next to Vanyel, who's holding himself curled-up and tense. 

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Lissa gives him the MOST DUBIOUS of looks. 

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"I object to your statement on the grounds that it is false," Thellim does not say to him, because she has no reason to believe that causing Vanyel to cultivate a self-image of being not-fine is the correct move for him right now even if self-image-accuracy is generally to be pursued.

"You weren't talking or moving," Thellim does not say to him, because to defend the wisdom of her choices would be to argue with him, and arguing could be interpreted as punishment, and she does not want to punish him for moving and Mindspeaking.  She's starting to construct a preliminary Theory of Vanyel, based on clues like the food he eats and Lissa trying to order him into taking a vacation and Vanyel not being enthusiastic about that.  It looks like somebody who's seen too much violence and death, who thinks he should be able to deal with that, who thinks he shouldn't need nice food when children will starve in winter, who thinks he shouldn't need a vacation when children will starve in winter, who is not actually strong enough to get away with treating himself like that; which means that his work is painful and taking better care of himself would be painful and taking a vacation would be painful; which means that all strategies lead into punishment shocks; and finally the subverbal animal underneath his deliberations tries to retreat from the outer environment entirely, emerging only to try to deflect the threat of being forced to face it again.

Thellim doesn't say any of that, because it's a wild guess based on the scantiest of evidence and one day's acquaintance, and there's too much she doesn't know about Vanyel that others do know, like why it matters what time of year this is.  He's from a very alien culture, and possibly might not be exactly what she thinks of as biologically human.  Somewhere around the age of twelve Thellim was cautioned against believing Theories of People that sound like interesting stories, when the reality often looks much less dramatic and human-sense-making, and more like 'somebody's brain started underproducing D2 dopamine receptors in the left ventral striatum'.  You don't want to be that awful person who starts sensemaking at some poor soul whose brain started underproducing D2 dopamine receptors in the left ventral striatum, just because you'd rather live in a world that makes sense.  There is a cruelty to telling somebody with damaged kidneys that they would be healthy if only they thought differently.

Thellim doesn't say any of that either, because if somebody actually does have problems caused by thinking, it is not helpful to suggest to them that they have incurably damaged kidneys.  People with a deficit of dopamine receptors can use cognitive mitigation strategies even if the problem's original cause wasn't cognitive.  What's most valuable is relatively fast and easy tests that somebody can perform to figure out which mitigations will work; tryable solutions are only one kind of test, and 'solving the original problem' is only one kind of potential mitigation.  It's a warning sign when all of your tests look like 'try this solution that undoes what I think was your original problem'.  Only a comedian claims that, when you fall off a ladder and break a leg, the priority treatment is putting on less slippery shoes.

Thellim doesn't say anything, of course.  There's an actual psychiatrist right next to her, and Thellim understands the concept of professional specialization.  :awaiting instruction; default inaction: she tightbeams to Melody and otherwise remains silent.

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:Acknowledged: Melody answers, her mindvoice just as tidy and level and before. 

She turns back to Vanyel. :May I have a seat? My feet do get tired, at my age: 

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A long pause. 

:- Er, yes, right, of course: He gestures vaguely at the stool previously occupied by Thellim. 

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Melody shoots Thellim an apologetic look, and then sits, crossing her legs, and looking mildly at Vanyel. 

:I believe you that you're 'fine' in the sense that you could keep going if you had to: she starts. :Heralds learn that skill early, and I expect you've had it drilled into you even harder than most. But, also - not even knowing anything about you, mind you, just knowing what the last six months would've been like for anyone in your position - I can guess that you're, well, not at your happiest or healthiest or most well-rested. Also, right now all three of the other people involved are pretty worried. So. Can we talk a bit?: 

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Vanyel twitches, his eyes turning briefly to glare furiously at Thellim and then at Lissa; a moment later, though, he ducks his head, seeming embarrassed by this response. 

:I guess: 

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:Thank you. I do appreciate that I'm asking a lot. Hmm. Can you tell me your own best guess for why you froze up like that, before?: 

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Silence. 

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Melody waits for about thirty seconds, working through the rest of her tea but otherwise resisting the urge to fidget. 

:- Er, right. I do understand if it's hard to talk about–: 

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:I don't know what's wrong with me! It's - Thellim being here is good news, it means there...there might be something we can do about all this...: 

Vanyel turns his face away again, curling into himself. 

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:I understand: Melody tugs at her collar again. :May I use my Sight? It may help me sort this out for you, without needing you to talk through everything: 

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Eventually, Vanyel nods. 

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:Thank you:

Melody's eyes slip a little out of focus, her expression flattening - 

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- her face doesn't reveal much, but she stops moving entirely, hands loose around her tea-mug. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:Vanyel?: she sends, a long moment later. 

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:Hmm?: 

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:Er, may I try to show my Sight to Thellim? Apparently her world - knows a lot of things about minds: 

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Shrug. :I guess if you want: 

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Melody reaches out to Thellim with private Mindspeech. :...Sorry, I haven't actually done this before, but - gods - I don't know what I'm looking at except that it's horrifying...: 

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:I think the trick is to sort of lean in closer, with your mind?: Yfandes offers helpfully. :As though you were reaching out with your hand, before, but now you're stepping in to dance - sorry, I don't know if your world has dancing -: 

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It does, but Thellim wasn't invested in it.  She can guess what Yfandes might mean, though; she isn't just trying to transmit or trying to receive, like reaching out a hand or taking a hand; she's trying to respond, like in dancing where you would pay attention to someone else's whole body and let your own body shift instinctively in response to maintain a balance.  The Gift of Mindspeech is, obviously, handling a very great deal that Thellim would not know how to handle consciously, in terms of sending a thought or receiving it.  If Thellim can succeed at this subproblem at an unreasonable speed by the standards of this world, it won't be due to her conscious knowledge about how cortical columns work - she didn't use that to Mindspeak in the first place - but because Thellim has a better idea of what her Gift would be trying to make her do, and better training in how to get out of the way of herself when her intuitions are trying to move her.

Thellim focuses on Melody, leans in closer, readies herself to pay attention to tiny cues from that 'direction' and respond to them, consciously gives herself permission for her sensory modalities to load strange information, and tries to flow along / get out of the way of whatever her Gift knows how to do.

She won't be too embarrassed if this doesn't work on the first try.

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Melody may not be experienced with Mindspeech-based concert Sight in particular, but she has a strong Mindspeech Gift, in power if not in distance-range, and nearly thirty years' of experience of getting into close contact with other peoples' minds. She accepts Thellim's mental 'reach', opens herself to it as well, rebalances herself and pulls Thellim closer...

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And the world folds opens and spreads out, an entirely new sensory modality shifting into focus... 

As seen through Melody's metaphorical Mindhealing-specific 'eyes', Vanyel's mind is...like a tapestry, sort of, though the analogy is incomplete. There are threads woven into patterns, layers and colors and more complex structures, beautiful, intricate - 

- and, in the center of it, there's - nothing. A void. Like a miniature, metaphorical black hole, a darkness that swallows anything touching it; the threads and weave of Vanyel's mind are drawn inexorably toward it, nearby parts of his pattern half-unraveled under that impossible strain. 

Despite that, the rest of his mind holds together shockingly well. Thellim can sort of see the part of him scaffolded against Yfandes, the structure of the bond that links them; it bears a lot of weight, which must once have been carried by whatever used to exist in that pit of darkness. And there are other threads, other structures; it's not immediately clear what they are but it's very obvious that Vanyel has spent a long, long time adapting to work around having a void in the center of his soul. 

In the immediate term, every single aspect of him is under INCREDIBLE STRAIN. 

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Her first theory was very very wrong, this is so much worse than she expected, how is what's left of him still alive.

Thellim has ripped herself out of concert before she's even realized it, and completely forgives herself for that.  She takes a moment to calm herself instead of screaming at the top of her lungs for Yfandes to explain this, for somebody, anybody to explain this.  She DOES NOT even consider asking Vanyel, Vanyel has had a Mindhealer before this, if he doesn't already know about this it's because his Mindhealer did not tell him.  Yfandes is also in this - whatever it is - it may not be safe to ask her either.

She could ask Lissa, but maybe first she ought to try looking again, try to understand for herself before she asks, just in case other people's mistaken interpretations are part of some larger disaster.

A tendril of thought, colored in cold horror and wound up tightly in cloth calm, goes out from her to Melody.  :Let's try that again.  I want to try looking at some of the threads immediately around the disaster zone, figure out where that is inside his mind and what it means.:

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Melody, too, seems shaken but also keeping it under tight control. :Of course. ...You've really never done concert-Sight before? Most Mindhealing trainees find their own Sight really overwhelming, let alone someone else's:

She offers an imaginary mental hand again, and gently twirls Thellim back into the dance, focusing in on the pit of darkness. :All right. Where were you thinking to look...?: 

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Vanyel is still hugging himself, hunched on his stool, apparently oblivious to how disturbing his mind looks to them. 

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The obvious place to look is at the center of the darkness, and Thellim may try that, but there's a better place to look first, if her first guesses happen to be correct.

:Melody, I know something about brains and nothing about Mindhealing, so correct me if I say anything stupid, it's very likely that I'll say something stupid - I had theories about Vanyel before this, they looked nothing like this, I was very wrong then and may be very wrong now - but my first thought about the difference between Mindspeech and Mindhealing would be that Mindspeech transfers bits of ongoing activity between brains, cognitions in the process of being thought, and Mindhealing looks at and potentially modifies the underlying state of the brain that determines which thoughts lead into which other thoughts.  Vanyel's actual thoughts would be reflected in changes to the tapestry, the parts of it that we can see mutating, and only insofar as Vanyel's ongoing thoughts were changing any of his long-term state.  Does any of this sound like it's at all on the right track?  It's okay to tell me if all of it is wrong.:

If that guess is correct, they should look for a thread visibly in the process of changing, in the process of reaching toward the void and unraveling, so she can understand where the margins of damage are being pushed outward or back.  The horrifying void at the center may be more of a fact about how Vanyel's brain works than an ongoing activity it's performing right now.

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:That's - hmm - I'm not sure I totally understand the distinction you're pointing out, there, but it sounds mostly right? Er, an analogy in books about Mindhealing, is that Mindspeech looks at the content of thoughts and Mindhealing looks at the structure of the mind, though I think that doesn't describe it perfectly either. The tapestries I see do change over time, for a particular person, but not quickly, and there's a lot more permanence than with surface thoughts. And - look -: a rapid sort of mental gesture at some of the workarounds in his tapestry, :- I think his mind's been like this for a long time. So...probably not the immediate problem, though it must be related: 

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:In which case - again, I'm still guessing - you wouldn't be able to get a lot of information about that huge void at the center without prodding it somehow, you'd have to set it into motion to do whatever it does, which we probably should not do.  Again, correct me if I'm wrong.:

Thellim is still thinking about that caution that Mindhealing is one of the easiest ways to do damage if you don't know what you're doing; if that's an example of a plausible novice error, that could be part of it.

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:- Huh! You've got - surprisingly good instincts for this: 

A pause. 

:...Oh. Hmm. I suspect you may have potential - er, the unawakened version of a Gift. But let's talk about that later. Anyway. I'm...honestly not sure it could hurt him any worse, trying to get a closer look there, I don't see any structures or...anything alive at all... But I've never seen anything like this at all, so I'm inclined to be cautious. Usually I would ask him for some context - in particular, Lissa said he saw a Mindhealer before, and I'm sure they knew or had a theory on what was wrong with him...: 

She shifts her weight on the stool, tugging at several different corners of her robes. :Gods. I need more tea: 

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Thellim will pay slightly more attention to her hunches, though it wasn't like she was ignoring them.  :My mind - or possibly your mind, I'm not sure whether I was interpreting or you were Seeing - the void looks like something was ripped away.  But if, say, one of Vanyel's memories was deleted, we wouldn't see it at all - it just wouldn't be there.  Arguendo:  The void is something that happened when something else was ripped away, it's not the missing thing, it's the damage done by its removal, missing connections, ashes of what was burned, as they are revealed in what Mindhealing shows about the state of Vanyel's brain and its effect on Vanyel's future thoughts.  I don't know if your Gift lets you just go in and clean the whole thing up but - I'd be rather leery of trying that without either a lot more ongoing harm than even this, or a lot more patient consent.  In terms of the surface metaphor, we could try to strengthen the threads that are reaching toward the void and disintegrating, try to redirect them away from the void or redirect the void away from it, try to do more of the work that Vanyel's already done to work around the damage, maybe find a place where Vanyel seems to be trying to do more of that work and push it along, patch in more of Yfandes to the broken pieces.  But these are all thoughts I've had without trying to understand what I'm seeing.  So I propose that we look at something that's changing, one of the threads in the process of reaching toward the void and unraveling, and see if we can understand that before messing with it.  We won't have to prod it into motion if it's already in motion?  Or so I'd guess?:

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:...I think that's right. That what we're seeing here is the damage done by something having been ripped away, I mean. And - I can't fix it. Not even if I were willing to take any risk. Mindhealing is powerful but not that powerful:

A pause. 

:I'm still inclined to ask him, because I don't think I - or we - can guess what's going on, not without a lot of invasive Thoughtsensing that doesn't seem justified. And because it'll be hard to do anything about it without his agreement and cooperation anyway. But, sure, it seems interesting to look for unraveling threads, and I think he could use another couple of minutes to collect himself before I ask him anything: 

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:I'd say ask Lissa, in case she knows some reason we shouldn't ask Yfandes who's also tied up in this; and if Lissa doesn't have enough info, we should ask Yfandes before asking Vanyel.  Also, should we ask Lissa to delegate one of her employees to start the process of bringing you more tea?:  If the tea is actually important Thellim does not want it to not be there.

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:I mean, I won't collapse if I don't get tea, it just helps me think. And - sure, we can ask Lissa, but I'd prefer to ask Vanyel for permission to do that first. Sometimes people are uncomfortable with that, and it's important that he trust me: 

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Valdemar certainly is full of people who think they don't need things that help them.  Thellim wonders what their velocity of money is like, and if nobody ever actually buys anything.

:Oh, well then, Melody, consider me to be asking you to ask Vanyel for permission to ask Lissa about what we saw, so that we can ask Lissa if it's okay to ask Yfandes if it's okay to ask Vanyel.  But first let's take a closer look ourselves, to whatever extent we can only look without changing anything.  My people have ideas about investigative procedures, and one of them is to look at something yourself and think about it yourself, before you ask somebody else what they think is going on.  This does presume you have mastered the important prior skill of actually being able to toss out your mistaken first impressions in favor of the more informed answer somebody else tells you afterward, but I do have that training so it should be okay.:

Aside to Lissa, patching in Melody.  :Lissa, Melody thinks she doesn't really need more tea even though it helps her do her important work.  Can you delegate one of your employees to bring her some more?:  She is beginning to suspect that this universe has a Systematic Problem.

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:Hmm? Yes, of course!: Lissa's emotions are mostly of relief (she is SO GLAD to have advice on a concretely helpful action she can take.) 

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:- Huh. Yes, all of that makes sense to me - hmm - I think I recognize the concept you're pointing at, but I never managed to put it quite so clearly? I'm very impressed!: A pang of longing, quite noticeable in the overtones. :I think I can manage to hold my first impressions with the right amount of uncertainty, and toss them if they seem wrong later. Mostly I was worried about how I'm not sure how much Vanyel wants this to be happening right now, but - it does seem that he needs it...: 

Melody's uncertainty is leaking through a little in the Mindspeech overtones; it feels as though she knows what needs to be done but isn't sure that she has permission to do it. 

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:Vanyel looks damaged to the point of hospitalization.  Among my own people we might consider it to be an ethical dilemma to proceed further if he told us to stop, but not to do more passive scans on him when it's clear that we or rather you are medical personnel and he's not objecting.  Does your standard-professional-ethical-code say otherwise?:  Overtones that go along with the dath ilani word for standard-professional-ethical-code will include the explicitness of the code, patients relying on and trusting the code, and five hundred Very Serious People debating the details in newspaper columns.

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:- Your world has a standard code for this?: Awe, desperate curiosity, a hint of envy. :I... For reference, Valdemar has few enough Gifted Mindhealers that there isn't a school or curriculum for it. I've - mostly figured things out myself, over time:

The unstated implication, clear in the overtones, that she knows there's a lot she hasn't figured out yet - and some she doesn't expect that she ever could, on her own. 

:And it - hmm - it feels...disrespectful to Vanyel, and - like it could be bad for our future relationship and rapport, if I ram through on things right now without asking for his input. And...a bunch of other feelings I'm not sure I can describe well... But you're saying your world has formal policies?:

Amazement, fascination. 

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how OLD is sapient life on this planet, is it TWELVE

Thellim mentally revises somewhat downward the amount she should defer to Melody's still-superior actual professional experience.

:It sure does!  And don't worry if your world doesn't, I've had enough contact as a patient with standard-professional-ethical-codes in medicine that I can improvise a new one for Mindhealing as we go along.:  Inward screaming?  Who, her?  Not at all!  She doesn't have the time!  :Would you like me to be the one to ask Vanyel if it's okay for me to look at things and talk to Lissa?:

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:....Sure, if you have a good script for it: 

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Vanyel is still rocking and hugging himself. 

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Lissa, not looped in on the recent conversation, is rubbing Vanyel's back and looking very worried. 

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:I do not have a script because we don't have Mindhealers.  If you have an actual script you should definitely use the script.  I would say, "Vanyel, we're planning to use concert-sight for me to take a closer look at your mind-state, and then ask Lissa or Yfandes some questions about what's going on, which may include describing what we've seen.  If you're okay with that happening, you don't need to do anything at all.  If it's bad, you can let us know.":

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:- Hmm, all right, I think I have a script I prefer to that, at least: 

And to Vanyel:

:I've looked at your mind and I see - something pretty big and significant. It's your mind, of course, and if you'd rather tell me yourself, or - tell us to bugger off - then that's fine. But I think it's important, and I imagine it could be pretty hard to talk about. So, if you want us to help but you're also finding this hard, would it be all right for us to ask your sister or your Companion for input?: 

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Vanyel stares at her for a long moment; judging from his expression, he could be very tempted to tell her to bugger off.

:....Sure. That's fine. I - I do want you to help me...do things... Both of them know a lot but Yfandes knows more: 

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:Yes, that was significantly better than I could have done.:  She'll go on deferring to Melody for actual patient interactions, check.  :Note, but suggestion only, my world's rules would suggest that you ask Vanyel explicitly about my being able to look at him using your Sight.  I don't look like medical personnel - I'm not actually medical personnel except in the sense that I'm trying to do the job of one - and the way we think about things, I wouldn't be covered by the permission Vanyel just gave you.  Other Mindhealers who work for or with you would be, if they had the same code.:

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:- Noted. And, for future reference, I do want to get that code from you in writing as soon as possible after this: 

A pause. 

:Vanyel, is it also all right if I share - er, keep sharing - my Sight with Thellim? She isn't a Mindhealer, obviously, but I think she could be very well placed to help: 

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:Sure, that's fine: If anything, Vanyel seems significantly less self-conscious about this part. :...Yfandes? Do you want to, er, tell them -?:

Tell them why he's broken and will continue being broken forever. He doesn't finish the sentence but it leaks through a little. 

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:- Yes, of course: 

Yfandes hesitates, though. She seems to be tensing up, like this is a painful subject for her as well. 

After a moment, she narrows her Mindspeech to exclude Vanyel.

:My Chosen had an awful childhood - his father was horrible to him. When he was fifteen, he was sent to the capital to live with his aunt. At that point he...fell in love with - and lifebonded with - another Herald-Mage trainee, Tylendel: 

(From the overtones it is both very clear that Tylendel was male, and that same-sex relationships were strongly disfavoured and disapproved of by the popular consensus, if not by Vanyel's aunt specifically.) 

:They had a few happy months together. But - a lot of awful things happened, and - it's complicated - Tylendel was trying to save Van and raised a Gate using his life-force. And then -:

(- agony, desperate confusion, loneliness -)

:- and then lost his Companion. And he - he - he called a Final Strike: 

The Mindspeech connotations here are clear. A Final Strike means burning all of one's life and strength to set everything nearby on fire.

:....and most people who lose a lifebonded partner, er, they - don't survive. But Vanyel is very strong: 

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:Survived because Valdemar needed him,: Thellim says.  There's respect in her Mindspeech, inextricably intertwined with horror.  Thellim can't think of a single person so vital to her own Civilization that they wouldn't retire to cryonic suspension and the hope of future healing, with that level of injury.

Thellim was trying to not know all this yet.  But this is exactly the sort of thing where somebody would look at that huge void and think that it was the missing partner instead of dangling connections, remembered pain, if somebody had told them too early what to think.  She'll just try to blank the knowledge out of her mind and see from first principles.

:A lifebond would have to be much more than a romantic entanglement to do this kind of damage.  Something like Mindspeech but much deeper.  Yfandes, are you okay with - talking about this subject - or should we be looking for an expert on lifebonds?:

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:I don't - I'm not sure that there are any experts on lifebonds...:

 

 

:I'm okay with talking about it. Although I - I - I don't know where to start...: 

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:What you know about what lifebonds are.  What they do.  What happens when they break.  What kind of ongoing damage they do after they're broken.  Why there's a new connection to you in Vanyel's mind holding up some of the damage.:

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:Lifebonds are - when two people's souls fit together, and then - when - if they meet, they form a strong bond - they can feel what the other is feeling, they can share magic, it's - even deeper than a Herald-Companion bond.... I don't know what lifebonds are for, but - lore says they happen when the gods are meddling...: 

 

:I'm not sure anyone knows much about the damage that a broken lifebond leaves. Vanyel is...the first person who's ever survived longer than a few months: 

 

:- Possibly because I bonded to him immediately after Tylendel died. I - I -:

Another long pause, but this time a tense one, replete with tamped-down...anger? confusion? desperation? 

:....I think the gods - a god - wanted that. Wanted us to bond - wanted something of us - but I don't, I don't–:

Yfandes goes silent. 

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:Is a 'god' - responsible for the ongoing damage?  Would we be opposing its active counter-intervention if we tried to fix it?:

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:- I don't know. I... probably not? Van saw Lancir for almost eight years and he tried very hard to fix it or at least mitigate it: 

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Thellim's sense of pessimistic concern catches up with her.  :Yfandes, is this line of questioning okay with you?  I know you said you were more resilient than a human but some of your responses have seemed - like you might be close to freezing up yourself.  It's visible that you're tangled up with Vanyel and this would not be a good time for you to also shut down.:

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A confused hesitation. :I - I don’t think - I want you to help Van. Please:

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(tightbeam to Melody)  :I have no idea how much of this is my guessing versus what 'unawakened Mindhealer potential' could be telling me, but I'm getting a sense we should back off Yfandes.  You?:

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:- Yes, I’m noticing something too. Was about to ask you, actually. I...don’t have a very clear sense of what in particular we need to back off on, though, do you?:

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:I do not.  She... could have picked up some of Vanyel's trauma through the bond afterwards, even though she wasn't bonded to him when it happened?  It sounds more like a wild vaguely-plausible-sounding guess than something that's actually true.  But she's basically functioning and my own guess says we're supposed to leave her functioning while we see if we can do anything for Vanyel.  If we can help Vanyel, sometime later we can go back and have a talk with Yfandes about risks and tradeoffs and future therapy, after Vanyel isn't in a crashed state where anything going wrong with Yfandes could make it even worse.  The main thing that would contradict that strategy is if we can't do anything for Vanyel directly, and have to work on him through Yfandes's side of the human-Companion bond, which I don't know is even possible.  I mean, I did have one crazy thought about whether we could look at the broken ends of Vanyel and deduce how to transform Yfandes to make her more like Tylendel in those particular ways that would turn their current bond into something more like a lifebond, but that's more a discipline of 'how to have crazy thoughts in case you can turn them into saner thoughts' than my current working proposal.:

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:....I would be very surprised if that worked. They're different sorts of bonds, and - as far as I know, lifebonds happen at a level deep enough that Mindhealers can't do anything to directly affect them. I - do think it'd be unsurprising if she had a pretty bad time early on, after bonding to him. And of course she's been under the exact same war stresses, if not more. But...I don't know, it feels like I'm missing a piece. I would ask her permission to peek at her mind too, except I'm not sure if that would add to whatever's putting so much strain on her right now: 

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:If looking doesn't change anything - up to the limits of Heisenberg, if that even applies here - then it sounds materially safe.  I have some ethical twinges about asking Yfandes for this when she's obviously desperate and would say yes to anything and it's not her who's frozen up - but - if you have a sense that Yfandes is or even could be part of Vanyel's puzzle - we should ask her permission and take a look.:

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:I share your ethical twinges, but she's going to be relevant for sure. If nothing else, stressors for her will affect him too, through the bond, and would make it harder for her to support him - which he clearly relies on a lot. Most Heralds do: 

And to Yfandes: 

:Would it be all right if I peek at your mind as well, with my Sight? I think it could be quite valuable for helping Vanyel. If so, is it all right if I keep sharing my Sight with Thellim?: 

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Yfandes doesn't hesitate. :Yes. Of course: 

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:I appreciate it:

And Melody turns her Othersenses toward a different mind, the muted glow of Yfandes' shielded mind unrolling like a carpet, threads, patterns - 

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Yfandes' mind is a stable one. A square, solid-built weave, sturdy and reliable -

- and with a couple of additions, or extensions, woven deep into her but somehow not of her. It's a little as though some sort of scaffolding has been sewn into place, with a metaphorical material closer to finely drawn platinum wire than to any normal cloth. It looks strong. Almost unbreakable. One of the reinforced areas, rooted deep in the core of Yfandes, spirals out and joins her to Vanyel. 

The other's purpose is less clear. And it's the one currently under significant tension, tugging and warping the shape of her mind. Not to anything near a breaking point, yet - Yfandes is resilient - but something there seems off. 

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:Melody, I don't think we should try doing anything to Yfandes right now, but I want to try looking at the added metal wire that's under tension and the threads in the immediate vicinity that it's constraining.  Whatever your Gift can tell you about it without poking it.  And - minds are made of smaller pieces that are made of even smaller pieces.  I don't know how much of that your Gift has let you figure out but everything we're looking at is much larger than the smallest elements of a mind should be.  We're seeing thousands of cloth patches woven from millions of threads; there should be trillions of connections.  It's not the time to start explaining neurotransmitters or synapses or Purkinje cells or cerebellar chips, but unless Yfandes's brain works completely differently from mine, I know the things we're looking at are made of smaller parts.  'Zoom in', if you can, if that request makes any sense to you.:

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:...Huh: A wash of almost overpowering curiosity, tamped down quickly by self-control. :Let's talk about that later. For now, yes, the request makes sense and it's something I often do, though...maybe not to the level of detail where a mind would have trillions of components: She sounds awed. :Well, I'll see if I can get a closer look with no poking: 

There's a momentary, dizzying impression of falling, down and in, almost swallowed by it, the particular strained-wires part of Yfandes swelling to fill all of Melody's awareness. 

Melody just looks, calmly and patiently, for a long time. 

 

 

:...I can't do a confident interpretation without asking Yfandes for more context: she admits, finally, :but...this area is tied really deeply into her...motivations, I guess you could say. Particularly the, hmm - the moral or ethical kind of motivation? I don't know if your world has better terms for that. The bond with Vanyel is very deep as well, obviously, but it's much more rooted in emotional attachment - love, you could say, though not the romantic kind: 

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Yfandes holds herself still and calm under their regard, though she's clearly still tense. 

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:...she's mind-controlled to have a particular set of ethics and support Vanyel?  We so did not need to deal with this right now.  Melody, what's the version of the story that you know for where Companions come from?  I heard one version, I don't know if there are others in circulation.:

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:- That's - it's not what I would've said first but it's not wrong: A mental sigh, though none of it leaks through in her expression or body language. :The story I heard is that King Valdemar was worried about the future of the Kingdom and particularly about corruption - he'd fled a corrupt Empire to the east - and so he prayed to every god he'd heard of for a miracle to help protect Valdemar forever. And also that he was a very powerful mage and cast some kind of spell, and then the first Companions showed up fully-formed in the Grove in Haven and Chose his son the heir and a few others. There's a song about it but it's not very specific on the details:  

Melody feels VERY UNHAPPY about the Yfandes-related discovery. It's not entirely clear why. 

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Thellim is not liable to notice this mystery.  It is too obvious for her why somebody would be unhappy.

:It seems very unlikely that Vanyel is the perpetrator here.  That being the case, I think we deal with Vanyel's ongoing immediate medical issues, and only later figure out what to do about the giant mind control plot by mages or gods or both.  It's at least conceivable that what we're looking at is consensual, although the way that Yfandes was freezing up during questioning does not look like the sort of mental help I'd ask for myself.  And, though I hate to say it, depending on how the mind control works, it could very easily be integral to who Yfandes is now and ripping it out could be the equivalent of killing her and creating a different person.  For all we know.  Too many complications drop all this.  We should go look at the place where Yfandes is joined to Vanyel, where she's supporting the broken lifebond, before we look at Vanyel again.:

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:Does seem like the best approach: Another frustrated mental sigh. :All right - let's have a look at the other area: 

Another dizzying shift–

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The silver-wired area that links Yfandes to Vanyel is not under any particular internal strain. Yfandes' resolve to help and support Vanyel seems practically infinite, and unlike with the other scaffolding, there's no sign of this conversation putting tension on it. 

Some of the nearby tapestry looks - knotted, or repaired with darning, or some other metaphor like that. 

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:- She's worried and scared for him, but she's not conflicted: Melody notes. :She's not - in the other place it looked like she might be fighting herself on something, and here it doesn't at all. And...hmm, I do think there's some old trauma here, experiences that were painful for her, but scars, not wounds, at this point, she's dealt with it and it's in the past. I - she's very, very committed to standing by him. I think it could withstand - almost anything: 

The 'almost' seems to hang in the air between them. 

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:It sounds like the - uncontrolled part of Yfandes - is fully on board with supporting Vanyel.  At least that avoids some ethical dilemmas.  Even if there was some previous Yfandes who wouldn't have liked what she became, the current person takes ethical priority over the past person.  I'll have to do some thinking about any bad systemic properties that stance might imply when facing mind-controllers, but I'll do that later.  For now, if we see a way to help Vanyel from Yfandes's side of the bond, I won't feel bad about taking it.:

:So let's look next - if we can - at what Yfandes's mind is doing to support Vanyel from this side of their bond.  The part right at the interface to Vanyel; see if we can figure out what the tapestry is doing, maybe zoom in on one of the threads making it up and ask what just that one thread is doing.  The clever-idea that comes to mind is to synchronize Mindspeech activity-reading with Mindhealing state-reading, but if you can't already do that, it's probably more of a research project.  And asking for a full mind-activity-read of Yfandes, or Vanyel, probably comes with all kinds of security implications... it's not clear that we're desperate enough to ask for that right now.  Normal techniques first.  What can we see, from this vantage point, about what Yfandes's mind is doing to support Vanyel's mind through their bond, that partially but not fully replaced the lifebond?:

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:Synchronizing Mindspeech and Mindhealing... Hmm, that does sound like something I've done before, actually, though it wouldn't be practical here – it's very invasive and pretty gruelling for the patient, even aside from the security aspect. But, sure, I can go in closer on the interface...: 

Melody concentrates, and her viewpoint backs 'out' again, then swoops 'inward' on a different area – the region where Yfandes' and Vanyel's minds are linked. 

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The area where the silver-wire framework of Yfandes' bond link to Vanyel, is placed as closely as possible to the edge of the missing, damaged area. It's evident even at a high-level glance that it isn't and can't be the right shape to patch that gap entirely.

...Up close, the edges of the shattered lifebond are ragged, and it's almost as though the void holds some sort of sucking vacuum, constantly pulling and straining all the adjacent connections. Some of the torn tapestry looks like it's been rewoven, tucked back into itself – part of this looks intrinsic, as though Vanyel is retraining his own mental habits, some is silver-wire-reinforced, and yet other parts are...not Vanyel, but not Yfandes either, but as though his tapestry has been darned with a different kind of yarn. 

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:That's another Mindhealer's work: Melody explains, before shifting her 'focus' to pick out the Yfandes-specific modifications in particular.

:The denser area here is...hmm, something to do with interpersonal attachment, and feeling safety or belonging, I think? And other than that, there's a lot of - just steering his thought-patterns away from repeatedly noticing the damaged area, I think, or being reminded constantly of memories associated with it. But incompletely - it's causing him pain all the time, I reckon. Yfandes is - sort of stabilizing the edges so it doesn't collapse the rest of his motivation and ability to want things or enjoy things? Maybe? I don't exactly have a lot of experience interpreting this sort of thing in particular: 

She dives in even closer. :...She's - sort of interwoven with his mind on a really fine-detail level - especially right here at the 'edge' of where his mind would've used to link up with his lifebonded, but not just there. I don't really know what this means or if it's normal for Heralds, honestly, usually I don't go in so close with my Sight: 

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This can't be the real story.

Thellim indicates, with a wordless tug, that she wants to step back from the Vanyel-Yfandes boundary and go out of the concert-work link.  It doesn't seem especially smart to try what Thellim is about to try while Melody is in the middle of someone's mind.

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Melody seems a little confused, but pulls away from Vanyel-and-Yfandes' minds. :- Yes, what?: 

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:Melody, what we're seeing can't be the real story, only the tiniest fraction of it.  What we're seeing is not like how brains work inside.  It's too large an edifice of knowledge, I can't start to explain it in order, but maybe I can send over the experience of what it would be like to know, you may not get the knowledge but maybe you'll know what it would feel like to have it:

and Thellim tries to put more power behind her Mindspeech, send more of the contents of her frontal cortex and all its associations, as she thinks in swift review

:light enters retina, preprocessed, edge cells, bar detectors, down the vast neural cable to the lateral geniculate nucleus (the centers of the brain are older evolutionarily than outer parts and form something like a complete system on their own because they're relics of a time when other parts of the system didn't exist), onward to the visual cortex; the visual cortex has different areas for textures and colors even though we experience seeing them both together and at once; this is the hyperbolic mapping between the actual visual field and its representation in the visual cortex that assigns processing power in proportion to how close an object is to the center of vision; an example seen in a neuroscience textbook of what lights up in a monkey's visual cortex when it looks at a grid, the distortion of that grid, the internal coding of brains does not look like what we experience ourselves seeing; spatial locations and forms in the parietal lobe, recognition of objects in the temporal lobe; the brain divides up internal labor along dimensions that are nothing like we experience ourselves when we're dividing up a problem to think about it, based around the dimensions of low-level properties of things rather than their higher-level uses and categories; here is the cerebellum, vast and central to all cognition, the control of realtime motor patterns including the motor patterns of thinking themselves; here is a cerebellar chip, a tiny thing that attends to incoming sequences of neural pulses encoding the vastly reduced-dimensional sense inputs that are relevant to its job alone, sending out one part of motor impulses to be combined with many others; here are the parallel fibers, showing that chip a hundred thousand input lines that might be relevant to it, the synaptic density here is higher than any other known part of the brain; here is the climbing fiber's error signal, to tell the cerebellar chip when the larger system knows a mistake has happened, it is theorized that the cerebellar chip takes the error signal and tries to correlate it with the parallel fibers' inputs to produce a corrected signal using those inputs; if that happens often, the balance of the signaling algorithm will be at the point where the derivative is zero, balancing the net magnitude of pushes in both directions to remain roughly stationary (this is calculus, by the way, but it's not important right now); here's some of my experience writing computer programs as a kid, and what that metaphorically implies about how often the brain must be translating thoughts between one format and another; it's theorized that cortex began as a convergence space for sensory information, frontal cortex is executive in the simplified stories they tell to children, but thinking is a realtime control skill so probably a lot of the real work is done in the cerebellum; the frontal cortex is much larger in humans than in chimpanzees; records of what happens with blindness show that different parts of the cerebral cortex can take on other parts' work; it's theorized that there's a common algorithm that the whole vast cerebral cortex begins from, here's the six-layer structure that appears everywhere, here's the rather informal theory about hierarchical temporal patterns; brain damage is endlessly fascinating but it's like trying to understand a radio by ripping particular circuits out of it; when the hippocampus is destroyed people can't form new memories but they can still retrieve old ones; damage to the brain here can cause people to believe everybody around them has been replaced by impostors, because they see the face but get no sense of recognition; brain damage here can cause people to lose the ability to control their left arm, and also vigorously deny that their arm is paralyzed, but if you squirt cold water in their left ear they may become able to know:

:Brains are complicated, brains were never made by humans, and brains' inner stories don't look like what humans experience or the stories they tell themselves.  What you saw can't be what's really happening.:

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Melody goes still, absorbing the tangled flow of information. 

:I...I mean, I think that's right - that I'm only seeing a tiny part of the story here, I mean, what I'm capable of understanding, what I have words to describe. I -: 

She shakes her head a little, wonderingly. 

:If all that's true, then I don't have the faintest idea how Thoughtsensing can possibly work. Let alone Mindhealing Sight. It's definitely kind of inscrutable at first, for a beginner - but if it were that opaque then no one could possibly learn to control the Gift even in an entire lifetime: 

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:Among the very first things I thought after I got here and found out about Mindspeech,: when it comes to concealing how far away Thellim is from, the cat is now out of the bag, out of the house, and well on its way out of the atmosphere, :was that it had to be much more complicated than it looked.  Vanyel can think 'sapling' and somehow that concept makes it from his mind into my mind even though we'll have our memories and concepts of trees stored in different networks of our brain, possibly even in different formats that our brains invented for themselves.  There would be shared points that pinned down the meaning and let somebody looking at both brains in enough detail figure out the codes, if you can load enough of the shape of a tree from his visual cortex into my visual cortex you could probably get started on following the associations into my temporal lobe.  But Mindspeech can't be like - pressing a sheet of paper onto another sheet of paper with wet ink, and the ink just naturally and easily soaks into the other sheet of paper.  It's dangerous to make up theories too fast, I'm in danger of far overrunning my data, but the obvious guess is that there's a Mindspeech organ, or maybe even a Mindspeech tool that connects to a Mindspeech server somewhere maintained by gods.  Whatever Mindspeech is, it extremely likely uses - aspects of this universe that my own universe doesn't have, like 'magic' - which is why my universe doesn't have it - and I have no idea at all what's easy to do with that.  Whatever Mindspeech is, it's doing an enormous amount of work in the background to enable different people to think at each other and convey sense impressions at each other despite all of the formatting-complexity and different associations to different memories that must differ between their brains.:

:Extending my wild guessing even further, my wild guess is that either your Mindhealing is only showing you things that you - expect to see, that you understand - or that your sense of meaning is picking up on one out of a thousand threads in the tapestry, or one tiny aspect of the meaning of the cloth, and it feels to you like that's what the whole section of fabric is doing.:

:And how this matters to Vanyel is that I suspect his broken lifebond has damaged things that aren't in the easy-to-understand class.  I'm far overreaching my evidence but still, guessing so as to organize investigation, when I hear about lifebonds I imagine two sufficiently similar minds, with some of the Thing that powers Gifts, can meld and start sharing cognitive work.  Then half the lifebond gets ripped away, and there are thoughts that - start, and can't complete themselves, like those threads reaching in towards the void and disintegrating.  A form of brain damage that the brain doesn't know how to correct from the inside; the brain can route around some forms of damage but others it can't.  Even people who've been through horrendously painful experiences, I'm guessing, wouldn't end up looking like Vanyel does inside - I don't know if you've seen people like that, Melody, and you should correct me if I'm wrong and they do look like Vanyel.  But my wild guess is that Vanyel has a form of brain damage that my world has never seen before and it's mixed in with the trauma.  When he thinks about Tylendel, he doesn't just remember losing something very precious to him or the pain of the bond breaking, his thoughts literally malfunction.:

:When you're ready, Melody, I want to look at Vanyel again, and look very narrowly at a single one of those threads that was in the process of reaching towards the void and disintegrating.  I'm going to try to - lean in closer - to see if I can recognize anything, or load my thoughts and expectations into your own mindspace through Mindspeech - if I can close the gap between my own knowledge and your Gift's power to interpret what it sees.  And I'd like you to stop me from changing anything - to not let your Gift do any manipulations, even if you cede control of perceptions to me - because I am not an experienced Mindhealer and we do not have a backup Vanyel.:

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Melody listens attentively through her explanation. 

:I - sorry - I think all the pieces of what you said made sense by themselves? But this is - kind of a lot of information really fast and I think I'm running out of space to put it in my head and... I'm fine, I do think I followed most of that and I'm used to things happening way too fast all the time constantly, wars are like that, but I just want to apologize if I seem to have forgotten or not even heard things you said: 

A pause. 

:You're right that I don't understand all the things wrong with his mind. And - I've never seen anything like this before, not even with horrific trauma, there's clearly something different going on. And I have no idea how to help him, right now, aside from - really surface-level patches that won't fix any of his real problems, or - telling King Randale to never ever send him to a war zone again, which I CAN'T DO because he's about half of Valdemar's military firepower–:

A pause, while Melody contains and damps down the sudden surge of intense frustration at not being able to get Vanyel the hell away from an environment which is, very predictably, making all of his existing problems worse. 

:All right, let's try your idea and have a very close-up look. I've never done this before - I think I can give you access to directing my Sight around, without letting you actually manipulate his mind...? And I'm very sure I can stop you and kick you out of rapport if I'm wrong and you're about to do that, but I hope that doesn't happen because it would be very jarring for you:

She takes a deep breath. :...And did that tea ever arrive? I think I need more tea before I try this and, er, I've been a little absorbed: 

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(It looks like, at some point, a tray with a teapot and some cups and a little pitcher of milk and bowl of sugar were brought and left on the table while both of them were fully absorbed in Mindhealing senses.) 

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Thellim beams an aside to Lissa and Yfandes while Melody gets acquainted with tea.  :General situational update, Vanyel does not look... worse than I think either of you already knew about, but looks pretty bad, and we are still in a figure-out-exactly-what's-happening phase rather than a treatment-planning phase.  Do not plan on this all being resolved in the next three minutes if either of you needs to, say, eat something, or otherwise continue to live your own life as reality goes on happening around you.:

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:Thank you: 

Yfandes still seems tense, but mostly in a way related to normal anxiety, not the edge-of-freezing-up that she was riding before. 

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Lissa just nods, and goes on hugging her brother and petting his hair, which he seems oblivious to. 

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Melody pours tea, dilutes it with a little milk, and gulps it at what looks like a somewhat painful speed, then fills a second cup and holds it loosely. 

:All right. Let's do this: 

She pulls Thellim back into rapport - and then even more deeply and tightly than before, except that she's cautiously shielding out part of her Gift this time - and then they refocus on Vanyel's mind. 

Onto specifically the torn-out emptiness in the center of it. 

Onto the edge of that, ragged, barely held together against the threat of unraveling. 

Onto a single trailing thread, one not held by Yfandes' silver scaffold or knotted back into the pattern or otherwise dealt with. 

And deeper, deeper, onward and inward, falling, focusing solely on the dangling, fraying tip of that thread - 

 

 

 

At some point, it stops being a thread of cloth at all... 

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That can't be just one neuron, can it?  Its relative size is too large for it to be a neuron.  It feels spike-trainy but no, they shouldn't be getting activity from one neuron, this isn't Mindspeech.  It ought to be some aspect of Vanyel's static brain-state that has something to do with this spike-train pattern, which is going to be one of the very few concepts in neural coding that Thellim's Civilization is advanced enough to know about at all, which is why Thellim is seeing it.

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Okay, what are you, tiny thing near the broken place?  You're big enough to see at the end of a thread, so you're not a neuron.  You're small enough that a particular spike-train is a key part of your state.  You look to Melody like a disintegrating thread leading into the big void, and to the extent Mindhealing shows state in terms of how it affects activity, you are what happens to a thought just before it goes perbluckit.  You have structure besides that spike train; but it is not something so blatantly obvious to a Civilization-trained amateur who's taken a few neuroscience courses, as the concept of a particular temporal pattern of neural spikes...

Thellim echoes some of this questioning to Melody, in case Melody's Gift is telling her more.

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.....Melody is incredibly confused. This is completely different than what her Sight usually shows her! It's - almost purely abstract - there's barely anything to it she can use to interpret the context... 

:There's...the pattern you see...: she muses, vaguely, half to herself. :And it repeats - there's more of it - but - then it stops, then there isn't any more... it should go somewhere but somewhere doesn't exist...: 

All of that is emotionally tagged with uncertainty; Melody had no idea this layer of a mind even existed, not until now. 

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:There's a theory about how information spreads through cerebral cortex, in which one cortical column: mental image of a tightly woven collection of a hundred tiny objects, each a blob at the center of branching threads :starts firing in a pattern, and if another cortical column a certain distance from it also starts broadcasting the same pattern: mental image of two circles each centered on a column :where the two circles intersect, a third column hears two identical spike trains arriving in synchrony: mental image of the two circles intersecting on a third column, forming an equilateral triangle :and that third column picks up the pattern and starts broadcasting it itself, recruiting more columns at the same key distance and forming a synchronized computing network spanning an area of cortex.:  The image that goes along with this is a triangular grid of columns, spanning a plane, all broadcasting in synchrony.  :Did that - help make sense of it at all?:

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:- Maybe? I'm not sure... A little. I don't think I follow at all why it does that, what the triangles are good for - how any of this eventually turns into habits-of-thought at the level I normally see them...: 

A long pause. 

:You're saying...something should be synchronized, should spread itself further - but for that to happen, all the links need to be there, and they're not, in this case - like a bridge being blasted, or something, blocking a transport route...?: 

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:It's premature theorizing, but yeah, I had a very crude and absurdly oversimplified hypothesis slash metaphor about how a lifebond is like their cerebral cortex being set up to share propagation, and then the lifebond breaks and the thoughts try to propagate but they don't go anywhere.  It doesn't have to be - the answer - but it's the sort of thing that brains actually do and trying to use organizing theories like that might help us understand the lifebond damage on a deeper level.:

:The equilateral triangle pattern is for synchrony - we do have a good idea that the patterns of neural activity flashing matter, the timing of the spike trains - you could See that part, right? I could - and a column that's the same distance from two other patterns would get the messages from them in synchrony because they'd have traveled the same distance.  Imagine three cities in an equilateral triangle, all equally distant from each other, connected by roads and by messengers that all travel at the same speeds.  Any two cities can send messages to the third city, and if the messengers start on the same day, they'll arrive on the same day at the third city.  When information is encoded not by any messages the messengers carry, but by the pattern of messengers and how long it takes for the next messenger to arrive after the previous one, synchronizing the initial arrival time of messenger retinues from different cities could be important to combining and - computing, doing thinking with - the messages encoded in the timed retinues.  So the cities that combine their powers end up arranged in a tiling of equilateral triangles.:

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:Oh! That's - yes, I think I understood that - that's really clever. Fascinating! Scholars in your world discovered this, and without even having Mindhealing Sight?:

Also her head is kind of starting to hurt, from information overload as much as from overusing her Gift.

:...I think that probably hits some of it? I - this feels incomplete - I think there might be other angles we're not looking from, maybe we focused in on this one because of what you know... But I think it's not wrong: 

 

 

 

Another very long pause. 

:....Well. If your theory's true, then - what do we do about it?: 

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:Well, if this was a comic book, we'd figure out exactly the change we needed to make to all the broken threads leading into the void, which would reconnect them into a living part of Vanyel's computing fabric.:

 

:I suspect that in practice you do some of the same kind of work the last Mindhealer did and see if that renders Vanyel immediately functional, and not do more pending taking a Look at somebody with a functioning lifebond, doing some experiments on nonsapient animals, and - and I'm not even going to try to make up this part as we go along, we can think of a research agenda at somewhat more leisure than this.  It's possible you can do better than the last Mindhealer because you've realized that you are not just trying to steer Vanyel's thoughts away from an emotional trauma, you are trying to steer away tiny cognitions embodied in neural patterns from a responding factor that tries to rebroadcast the signal but ends up breaking it up instead.  But if I were you, I do not think I would be trying to mess around with, like, reversing the spike train encoded in this microthread in hopes that it stops binding to thoughts and steering them into the damaged area.  I mean, even taking into account that 'reverse' is a lossless transformation and that might mean you could put it back afterward if needed, which is why I said 'reverse' rather than 'erase', I still do not think you should try it just yet.  I think you should stick to things that feel intuitive to you and your Gift, and maybe slightly try to use some of the new knowledge if the cost-benefit ratio seems very good.  Unless Vanyel still hasn't recovered after a time, and then we speed up our experimentation plans.:

 

:And before you do THAT you are going to stand up, walk around, have some more tea, and possibly even eat something tasty that I will tell Lissa to get you.:  Thellim has started to catch on to Valdemar Syndrome at this point.

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Melody is quiet for a long moment, clearly deep in thought. 

 

:...Thank you. This - was informative, even though I don't think I've got anywhere near the level of control I'd need to manipulate structures that small - er, imagine if you were using a glass lens to look at individual...hairs, or threads of spider-silk...but still all you had to sew or weave them was your fat fingers: 

Her lips twitch into a brief, fierce smile. :Well. I don't have that kind of control yet. Though I reckon I'm better than whoever I saw last... Before, I'd been wondering if the best I could do would be a wide-range block - flipping back enough of the main pathways to just sort of bounce all the associations back before they hit the gap - but that would distort his overall thinking and emotions a lot and now I have better ideas. My thought for now is, I back up, get a big-picture view of where he's most - wobbly, unstable - and then I can use the really close-in peeks to make sure the fixes I'm putting in go with the grain of his mind as much as possible: 

She pulls back from Vanyel's mind and out of the close Sight-sharing rapport, and scoots her stool back. :And for now, yes, I could use some walking around and something to eat. How about Vanyel - when did he last eat or drink?: 

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:I'd like to say something scathing like NEVER but in fact Vanyel ate some dried cheese and dried meat this morning, and then had some bread and butter in this tent just before his system crashed.  I, too, wish that we'd been able to get more of a meal into him first.  If it didn't violate the obvious standard-professional-ethical-code, I'd tell you to install Eating Software as long as you were in there.:

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:- I can't tell if that's supposed to be a joke or you mean it seriously: Melody stands up and stretches. :Anyway I don't think that's the sort of thing I know how to do, though I do hope to have some future opportunities to help him get some better habits:

She tugs at her bun, eyes darting restlessly around the room. :- Er, I'm...not really in the headspace for talking to people right now - not sure if you ever get the thing where if you do a repetitive task like cleaning floor tiles for candlemarks then your mind sort of replays it when you're trying to fall asleep? My mind is doing that except with those damned abstract line-dot-triangle patterns. Anyway do you think you can explain the plan to him, or at least to Yfandes if he won't engage, and then try to at least coax him to drink something? We've been at this for a long time: 

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:Rogerroger: Thellim thinks back at her.  Then, in a flash of self-awareness, stands up and stretches herself.

They might have been at this for longer than Thellim realized.  But she's already in great shape, right?  She doesn't need to take a break herself, not when people need her.

Thellim strikes her hip briefly in a gesture that's the dath ilani equivalent of a headshake and humorous snort.  She gives the tea a dubious look, then tries pouring herself some milk and sugar.  Other people may be waiting on her, and even be worried, but Thellim has just come out of some rather intense concert-work and thinking.  The others can afford another worried minute while Thellim shakes out her thoughts and figures out what to say next.  She might not have thought that yesterday, but something about being put into contact with this much Valdemar Syndrome has helped her generalize the mistake.

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The others don't seem especially impatient. Vanyel is resting his head on his sister's shoulder, now; they seem to be talking quietly to each other, though not in Mindspeech so of course Thellim can't understand them. 

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Lissa's the one doing most of the talking. She at least notices that Thellim is up and moving, and glances sideways at her, but doesn't interrupt. 

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The sugar seems very slightly gritty, and the cream is visibly starting to separate a little in the milk, but the combination tastes acceptable. 

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It can taste like whatever so long as it contains calories.  Thellim broadens her mindspeech to include Lissa and Yfandes.  :Sorry for the delay.  Roughly - we made a scientific discovery I'll try to explain later, and Melody has an interim treatment plan that she hopes will be more effective than what the last Mindhealer did but we can't make promises.  Melody is walking around to clear her mind, and would like Vanyel to drink something first.  I'm not quite sure what 'tea' does but water, milk, and/or sugar all sound like good ideas to me.  I could repeat this to Vanyel directly, but thought I'd give you a chance in case there's - some more known thing that you say to Vanyel when you want him to drink some water and sugary milk.:

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:Good! I'm so glad you have a plan: Lissa rolls her eyes. :And I wish I had a better strategy there than relentless nagging - I'll ask him, though: 

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Yfandes reaches out to just Thellim, almost diffidently. 

:Could you - I don't want to delay things - but is there any way you could move somewhere I can be closer to him? It's just...really hard, waiting out here when he's this miserable. And I think he'll find it easier having his mind poked at if I'm there. ...Er, just to warn you, he really hates having Mindhealing done to him: 

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(Lissa only)  :Lissa, we need to all move somewhere warm and comfortable that Vanyel can be in physical contact with Yfandes, which is, of course, quite important under circumstances such as these.  Let us all remember this fact the next time we are dealing with Companion-havers in great distress, because neither THEY nor their COMPANIONS will simply TELL US RIGHT AWAY.:

(Yfandes only, much more gently)  :Do you know anything about why Vanyel hates Mindhealing?  Is it - physically painful for him, or - do you know why?:

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:Oh, gods, yes, of course - not the stables, we should have somewhere private - I think I can kick people out of a storeroom or something...: 

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A pause, somehow giving the impression of a frown. 

:- I think a lot of it is that he finds it embarrassing, honestly - he gets very self-conscious about feeling like there's something horribly wrong with him and he needs all this extra help: 

Yfandes is VERY DISAPPROVING of this and thinks Vanyel should have all the help all the time.

:Other than that... I mean, he doesn't like thinking about it or being reminded of it, right, it's - well, it hurts all the time but it's more in his awareness if he has to actually interact with it. And...hmm. There could be some negative associations from early on, at least with his previous Mindhealer? He - didn't really want to get better, at first, and I think he felt pretty coerced into getting Mindhealing help at all, however badly he needed it. He did it anyway - because he knew how badly Valdemar needed him - but I think it rankled: 

A mental snort. :- And here I am, arm-twisting him into it again. He'll go along with it, at this point, but I'm pretty sure if it'd been up to him he would be moping by himself in a corner somewhere. He...spends a lot of time just wishing the world could leave him alone, you know: 

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:Do you know what the previous Mindhealer did?:

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:To some extent, sure. He did some blocks at first - basically putting a wall or fence up around a particular traumatic memory or association - but later on he decided that wasn't going to help in the long run and he stopped. He did huge numbers of what he called redirects - smaller patterns, basically trying to disrupt a particular unhelpful thought-pattern by nudging it to finish with something else - particular for negative thoughts Vanyel tends to have about himself which are obviously not true. Other than that, they...just talked a lot? I suppose Lancir did a lot of nagging him too, on things like eating and sleeping enough, or not being INCREDIBLY RECKLESS and trying to personally fight twenty bandits at once -: 

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:That's - honestly around my worst-case scenario for what I was afraid Mindhealers would try to do if they didn't understand what they were looking at.  We really can't make promises but I definitely hope that Melody can do substantially better than that.:  If she's not just overestimating a new friend, Thellim somewhat suspects Melody might have done better than that even without Thellim showing up.  :Did Vanyel get - the best Mindhealer anybody could find regardless of price, or did he walk into a teenager's pop-up Mindhealer stand and get the fifteen-minute special?:

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:Lancir was the Queen's Own Herald - er, basically the Queen's second-in-command, responsible for all the Heralds. He was the only Mindhealer in Haven, though. What with only having - hmm, four, five of them in the whole country - the ones with the Healers' Collegium mostly travel around on circuits to cover more area and population. Van needed someone he could see regularly, every week, and it helped that Lance had context on all of his work, and full authority to give him less of it when he judged necessary, but...well, I'm sure the man would have been more skilled at the purely technical Mindhealing-Gift aspect if it were his day job and not just one of a hundred responsibilities: 

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Oof.  :I'm sorry for thinking ill of him.:  How does an entire economic region manage to be so overstretched?  Even if the whole place is the size of a medium town, shouldn't fewer people generate fewer problems for the fewer people to handle?  Lower GDP per capita, she supposes; probably half the population have to be farmers if the whole is going to eat.

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:He would understand. He - would be glad you're here to criticize him, I think - all he ever wanted was to find a way to help Van with this...: 

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And then Melody gets back, and Lissa grabs a wool blanket and then steers all of them off, through thirty seconds of miserable grey drizzle, to the back room behind a barn. The floor is piled with crates and sacks but it has a hayloft. 

She guides Vanyel into sitting down on a crate, then looks around and gestures questioningly at Thellim, then starts dragging crates aside to clear some floorspace for Yfandes. 

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Melody, recruited to help as well, suggests with reasonable cheer that Thellim could maybe clamber up the pile of crates and toss down some hay so Yfandes will be cozier on the floor? 

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Thellim is happy to have a straightforward problem that can be solved with just her BRUTE STRENGTH.

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While she's working to toss down hay, Thellim tightbeams Melody a summary of Yfandes's report; Melody should check with Yfandes if she wants a fuller or more original report.

Previous Mindhealer Lancir tried to use 'blocks' to steer Vanyel away from the traumatic thoughts and memories, gave up after deciding it wouldn't help in the long run.  Lancir later added 'redirects' against some negative statements-about-self (which somewhat resembles cognitive-behavioral-therapy but they can go into that later).  Lancir tried to argue Vanyel into taking better care of himself, but wasn't a professional therapist and was trying to take care of Vanyel in between trying to run half the Valdemarian faction.  Thellim's secondhand take is that Lancir tried to use a treatment plan on Vanyel as if he'd been through a horrific fire with painful burns and had lost his family in a way that he blamed on himself; which doesn't completely fail to map onto Vanyel's problems, but doesn't get to grips with the enormous black hole anomaly in Vanyel's brain.  Thellim is not claiming she could have done any better given Lancir's knowledge base and workload, and Yfandes thought Lancir cared and did what he could.

Vanyel didn't like that style of Mindhealing.  Yfandes reports Vanyel feeling coerced into Mindhealing, ashamed of needing Mindhealing, and wishing like the world would just leave him alone for a while.  Thellim doesn't blame him, but thinks her people's ethicists would not say they have to listen to Vanyel's inner wish to be left alone, if Vanyel's outer self gives verbal permission and they have a new and hopefully better treatment to try.  Thellim feels mildly queasy about Yfandes having told her some of this, but will just pretend that she is a doctor herself and following a doctor's code with respect to it - just be the confidentiality-bound medical personnel that Yfandes is treating her as; though it's supposed to be a bigger deal than something you just decide to do one day.

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Melody listens calmly, seeming a lot less frazzled than before her break.

:- Understandable. It...must have ben hard for him, having his Mindhealer be the same as the person responsible for - well, assessing his performance as a Herald, sending him on dangerous missions, all of that: A small internal sigh. :I do hope I can manage it better: 

And she turns to Vanyel. 

:Herald Vanyel. I'm sorry for taking so long to get my bearings; I'm ready to try some things now. I'd like to talk through my plan with you first, though, if you're ready?: 

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Vanyel shuffles closer against Yfandes' flank. :I'm ready: 

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:To start - I can see you've had a lot of detailed Mindhealing work done. By Queen's Own Lancir, I'm guessing. My sense is that he did a lot to help you, hmm, route around the broken lifebond, and function better - but he couldn't actually address the damage?: 

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:No. It's...not fixable: 

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:- He may have been right about that. But...maybe not. Thellim's insights from her world's scholarship on brains have been very helpful for seeing more of the underlying problem, here. It's... Hmm. It's not just emotional damage, if that makes sense? You could sort of imagine it as something like a head injury - it's not exactly that, either, but there's something broken in the very basic substrate of how your mind thinks, and that's not something people get from traumatic experiences or painful memories alone. I think it's affecting you especially hard right now because you're under so much stress - ideally you'd get a break from that too, to rest and find your balance again, but I don't control the war schedule: 

She tugs her sleeves straight, adjusts her position on the crate, and blinks owlishly at Vanyel. :I don't think I can safely repair the damage at the level where it happened, just yet - I need to do more research on it - but it's possible I can later. And I'm quite confident I can mitigate it some, here and now, a lot more effectively than blocks or redirects did, and without much downside risk. It won't feel like previous Mindhealing work you've had; I'm not sure what it will feel like. And of course I haven't done this before. Are you willing to let me have a go anyway?: 

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Vanyel seems to be only half following this; his body language is exhausted, closed in on himself. 

:If you think it'll help me - keep going - then yes, of course: His mindvoice is flat, more resigned than hopeful. 

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:Yes. I think so. And I think it'll help set some groundwork for doing more later: Melody glances at Thellim. :I probably won't need to ask you as many questions as I usually would for more standard Mindhealing - what I'm doing will be at a smaller scale than what you're introspectively aware of, I think. I do intend to check in often, and I want you to tell me right away if something feels wrong or bad, all right?: 

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:All right: Vanyel closes his eyes. :Go ahead: 

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:- Well, I don't think we can expect more enthusiasm than that: Melody sends privately to Thellim, and then reaches out to her, offering the tighter rapport of concert-Sight. 

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Thellim leans in, as if preparing to match another's movements.

Going along with Melody's Sight with Melody herself steering is a dizzying experience.  Vanyel's tapestry unfolds, seeming both familiar and unfamiliar to Thellim, like a picture she's seen before but with inverted chroma.  Melody's attention moves over it, understanding things that Thellim cannot understand, moving on without stopping for a tiring job of explanation.  It is like - well, it is like being inside somebody else's head as they look over a vast gameboard in a game you don't understand, parsing up the global position into chunks and planning their next moves.

:What's the plan?: Thellim thinks at Melody.

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:- I had been planning to sort of - re-weave in the loose threads one by one, so the pathways at least have somewhere to go, it'd be a lot less distorting than an ordinary block... But there's a lot of fine structure I'd have to take into account and...it's not feasible in two candlemarks. Maybe not in twenty candlemarks: 

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Thellim is not quite sure what Melody was intending to do - it is spoken in the language of the Mindhealing Gift and maybe of Melody's own personal Gift - but she can understand that the operation would need to be iterated too many times.  Thellim can at least pick up the sense of time from its context and connotations, not precisely measured, but a candlemark seems like it would be around 4 0.25-hour-periods.

:I had more clever-thoughts while you were gone,: Thellim thinks back; the word clever-thought contains the connotations of the many reasons why clever-thoughts are to be distrusted.  :It occurred to me that Mindhealers may usually deal with people who've undergone trauma exceeding their strengths, and they would think in terms of trying to - diminish the amount of pain, help people handle that pain.  Not like... fixing a complicated system that is exhibiting strange behaviors.:  Thellim is trying to avoid throwing unfamiliar concepts like 'debugging' across the link right now.  :There's a saying among the healers of my world that complicated problems come in three varieties, one of which is system attractors.:  It's clear at this level of bandwidth that Melody does not know what a system attractor is either.  Oops.  :Cases where there's 6 things going wrong, no one of which would be fatal alone, all of them subtly feeding into each other.  'Depression' does not name a single thing, the way that a 'cat' is a distinguished kind of animal that only breeds with other cats.  There is not a single species of depression, there is not a central essence to it.  Something goes wrong with somebody's metabolism, they feel tired, they exercise less, they stop seeing their friends, their friend networks don't support them as much, they sleep more poorly that night, they're tired so their tasks feel more painful the next day, they fail at their tasks, they learn that the effort of trying is met only with the pain of failure.  If there's something about the broken lifebond that - causes Vanyel's thoughts to go into a loop of errors - Vanyel strikes me as a very strong person, what with him still being alive, the only known person with a broken lifebond who's still alive.  Maybe Vanyel could handle or learn to handle everything that we think of as ordinary trauma, the pain of Tylendel's loss, the pain of the broken lifebond, and even his thoughts causing errors when he thinks about the lifebond, as long as his thoughts didn't go into a loop of errors and remembered pain.:

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:...I - think I followed what you mean. About the - patterns that feed into themselves - like one rock that starts an avalanche, except it also circles back on itself so I guess that metaphor doesn't quite work...: 

She shakes her head a little. :He's incredibly strong, that's for sure. He's spent six months dealing with circumstances that I don't think could've coped with, and - he's not handling it perfectly but he's handled it at all, this far. And all the years before that. I - there's something driving him and I don't think I understand it, yet, I think it's more than just 'being a Herald' or 'duty to the Kingdom' - more than just Yfandes...:

A mental shrug. :Though that's not the main point here, and not my business anyway if he doesn't want to tell me. Anyway, I think you're right, and just breaking the loop would do a lot, but - I don't know how to do that in a single step either, there are all sorts of pathways that turn his attention toward the broken lifebond: 

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Thellim sends back a feeling of playing a dath ilani computer game as a child, complicated systems of wheels and gears and fluids of changing colors where the objective was to fill the goal-cup with blue water, and there would be obvious ways to do it in 20 moves and hidden clever ways to do it in 1 move; although sometimes the minimum was 3, and sometimes there was no easy solution at all, so as not to teach children a wrong lesson about problems always having hidden simple solutions.  :If there are many pathways continuing the loop through where Vanyel focuses his attention, maybe we don't try to interrupt the loop on that step.  We look for the place where we can break the loop with the fewest changes, or the least expensive changes.  That would be the clever-thought, anyways.:

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:That would certainly be convenient if it worked! I...don’t know how to look for it with my Sight, though:

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:Your Gift is powerful enough to translate strangers' brains for you.  And you can find places you're looking for, somehow, without checking every part of the tapestry that you can see.  I'd imagine it - ought to contain something like a search function - but what we're searching for is - there's an obvious metaphor in my thoughts, but I don't know how to explain -:

Thellim wordlessly requests steering for the perceptual side of Melody's gift, and asks it to - metaphorically speaking, it's okay for the Gift to interpret this as a metaphor rather than literally - distinguish for their attention those portions of tapestry constituting (minimal-sets-of functions that (mutually recurse AND (have execution pathways going through the giant void at the center of Vanyel's mind))).

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Wow that feels VERY ODD, though not at all in a bad way; Melody is captivated, in fact. The metaphorical tapestry of Vanyel’s mind blurs, the view of it twists in some way reminiscent of being flipped inside out - dizzying, as her Gift searches for the right angle...

And then clarity, again.

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It’s still a tapestry, but they’re seeing a completely different aspect of it; there are loops, like carpet-pile weave, the way that they tangle, and - a structure that wouldn’t actually be physically possible in cloth, a single narrow thread running through or behind or somehow inside all of them...

...And then finding only void and disintegration, and echoing back its failure.

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:....This is such a confusing view!: It’s harder to hold focus on, maybe just from unfamiliarity, and threatening to give her a headache.

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Thellim leans into the bond more, trying to hold up the part where she maintains the unfamiliar-to-Melody search structure, while still letting Melody look around at things.  It's a more complicated task and a strain for Thellim, but she can handle it, she thinks, Melody is the one who's been doing most of the heavy lifting here.

These search results are also too much to look at, and need to be narrowed.  Thellim puts mental parentheses around the previous metaphorical search term she used, and asks that their foreground attention be focused on those functions that appear in more than one such minimal set of recursive functions; the original search term's results can be relegated to a lesser background emphasis.

The single narrow thread running through everything is much more prominent, now, and some particular stretches of fabric it's embedded in.

This search term is a little harder to hold in mind, but the search results should be a lot easier for Melody to go through.  :Melody, does that thread - make sense to you?  It doesn't make immediate sense to me.:  It's not just a particular spike train, and a significant part of Thellim's focus is now distracted.

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:No, I think it’s not just what you were calling a ‘spike train’. It’s larger - no, I’m not sure that’s quite right - it’s a more general kind of pattern than that? It’s...the relationship that makes these loops about the broken lifebond, maybe...?:

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Thellim tries transmitting the concept of a lifebond-error-handling function which tries to transmit its result through the lifebond, causing an error which reenters the lifebond-error-handling function.  :Is it - anything like that, maybe?  Did that spark any ideas?:

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:Could be? If I understand what you mean by ‘function’ which I’m not sure I do. And from this angle, without actually manipulating it, all I can interpret for sure is that it’s related to both the broken lifebond and the stuck loops:

A pause.

:Meaning I’m not sure what, exactly, it would do if I tried to block it. But I’m quite confident I could undo it if it makes things worse. What do you think?:

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Thellim thinks about this for a moment.

They can either spend twenty candlemarks doing much more burdensome and complicated things to Vanyel that they understand; or they can do one allegedly-reversible operation on his brain that, basically, they do not understand at all.

Thellim considers asking the patient for his opinion on this subject.  Even explaining how they found this one thread would - and Vanyel is really not in good shape right now - and she and Melody are essentially the only people who'd understand at all the very small amount of information they have that would go into making this decision - they could ask the Companion but it's not clear that she stands as a guardian to Vanyel in a meaningful sense and there is that whole thing with the mind control plot going on -

:If your Gift is telling you it's reversible, and you've previously always been right about what's reversible, and you've never done a reversible thing that turned out to have an immediate enormous cascade of side effects you couldn't reverse, my sense is that we try blocking this thread and then ask Vanyel what happened.:  Thellim wants to produce a nonsapient-animal-model of broken lifebonds and experiment on it, but she has the sense that the situation between Karse and Valdemar does not allow for that kind of time.  :What was your opinion-that-you-arrived-at-before-you-heard-mine?:

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:My worst case scenario is that it causes short term very unpleasant side effects, in which case I instantly put him to sleep and then undo it. I...am very very sure there would be no consequences lasting until tomorrow morning, aside from a distressing memory. My decision would have been to ask him if I can try something with unknown odds of helping but very unlikely to be lastingly-harmful, and go ahead if he agrees. Which I’m pretty sure he will:

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:I was also worried we'd lose the thread if we went out of concert-sight, but if you think you can talk to him from inside here, or if you're confident you can find this thread again if we go out and back in - agreed.  Let's do it.:  Knowing what the patient's answer will very likely be, and Vanyel's circumstances, means that the real burden of responsibility for this decision still rests on them; but she can see the ethics in checking anyways.

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:I can handle it briefly -with your help focusing on the thread, all I really have to do is maintain my side of the rapport:

And to Vanyel and the others: 

:I want to try something. It may or may not help but either way it’ll help me understand the problem better. I don’t know the exact effects or how it’ll feel; if it makes things worse I’ll undo it immediately, if it’s bad enough I’ll knock you out and then do that. Do I have your permission to try?:

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Vanyel starts to answer, then stops and considers it for a much longer thirty seconds or so.

:Yes, you can try:

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:Ready?: Melody checks with Thellim. :The change will be straightforward, but I do want your help watching for any other changes that propagate from it, since you seem to understand the structures here better:

 

She gathers herself.

 

 

...And then reaches in with a force that isn’t her hands, pushes something through that seems to soften the thread - and then loops it through itself and knots it off.

 

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Thellim realizes what's going to happen only an instant before it does; all the structures they were looking at drop out of the search results.  Thellim reacts barely fast enough to deliberately refocus her attention on that thread and the structures surrounding it -

:sorry I didn't think fast enough I should have expected that it no longer matches the search we used it's no longer part of a loop:

If any other changes propagated out from that change, Thellim didn't See it while that was going on, unfortunately.  But she does sense that the remaining stretches of fabric that participate in void-entering loops are much fewer, now.

Thellim takes the search term back to any minimal-set of functions going in a loop leading into the void (OR that one thread and its surroundings).  There's some of the tapestry still highlighted, but much less.

:Melody, sorry, I - I don't understand what I'm looking at here, at all, there's far far far too much that my society doesn't know about brains.  Maybe a real neuroscientist in my place would have understood more.  But it does look like we interrupted a whole lot of loops.  I think we just ask Vanyel to try thinking and see how he feels, at this point?:

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:Mmm: 

Melody holds rapport with Thellim, but shifts most of her own attention from her Sight - the level of detail interpretable to Thellim immediately drops, though interestingly she can still hold her own attention on it a little. 

:Vanyel? I did it - let me know what you're noticing?: 

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:Hmm?: Vanyel shifts, lifts his head. :I - what–: 

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Melody reaches for him. :Are you all right?: 

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:I - I'm not sure - need a moment...: 

Vanyel closes his eyes, rubs his temples, rolls his neck from side to side a little. 

:- I think I'm all right, but - gods, that's weird. It's like - when I expect it to hurt, it doesn't really, but it's...a bit like I'm reaching to do something without thinking about it, and instead of it working, I...bounce off?: He scrunches up his face. :It reminds me of the thing in dreams sometimes, where you're falling asleep and sort of half-dreaming walking, but then you trip and wake up? Except if the ground were springy or bouncy, so it doesn't hurt: 

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Melody makes a sympathetic expression at him. :That does sound very odd! Is it unpleasant?: 

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:It's a lot less unpleasant than how it felt before?: 

Vanyel shrugs, half turning away with his eyes on the ground. :I should do something else that isn't poking at it on purpose: 

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:Mmm. It's reversible, and it's not setting off any other cascading changes, so I think we can let it sit for a while. Maybe you could have a conversation with Lissa about something innocuous for a while: 

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Lissa stands up. "Van, I'm going to get you something to eat, and then I can - tell you gossip about Horn, I guess?" 

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Yfandes lifts her head. :It's not hurting him: she says to Thellim and Melody, gratitude washing through her mindvoice. :Or, well, vastly less. Thank you - thank you so much...: 

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:You're welcome: Melody resettles herself, adjusting the sacks she's using as a backrest. :Thellim, why don't we have a look at the bigger-scale now, see what's changed: She offers her mental hands again, pulling Thellim back into close rapport, and then directs her Sight up-and-out, refocusing on her own default high-level tapestry picture of Vanyel's mind. 

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The hole is still there. It's not smaller, or really any less disruptive to the torn-out sections of the tapestry pattern, but...something is pervasively different. Less in the purely structural elements visible at this highest level, and more in the - forces acting on them? 

The sense of a sucking vacuum pulling Vanyel's entire mind toward the broken lifebond, of a bottomless gravitational pit in the inky dark center, is mostly gone. It's still a hole. But it's only a hole, now. 

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That's a big change they made by editing a low-level neural object they didn't understand.  It looks much more dramatic from Melody's cognitive-functional perspective than from Thellim's attempt to view the low-level code.  Thellim's paradigm says that the behavior of the whole program is allowed to change when you edit one line and that edit just looks like a one-line edit; Melody's paradigm, apparently, shows the actual degree of change.

On the one hand, it definitely looks better.  The giant sucking void is now just a giant nonsucking void, which, on the face of it, would seem like a good thing.  But Thellim is also feeling increasingly aware that she and Melody did that in sort of a hurry, and they should have maybe paused for five minutes while Thellim tried to list out things that might possibly go wrong.  Now she's staring at the drastically changed mindscape and trying to think of things that might go wrong with it, which she really should have tried to think of earlier; and this is a predictable update that she could have foreseen herself making if she'd visualized out the concrete future in advance.

It's all the more embarrassing because this is exactly the kind of thing that protagonists do in cliched young-adult novels.  Like, oh, say, for example, the legendary popcorn series Science Maniac Verrez.  Right about now would be when Verrez realized yet again that he just did something incredibly stupid and that the facts didn't match the conclusions he'd jumped to.  (Though it wouldn't always end in catastrophe for Verrez, even in fiction, lest the story teach the false moral that reality runs sufficiently on narrative logic to be that reliable about punishing errors...)

:It... looks good to me?  But I have no absolute-noncomparative-advantage in interpreting minds at this scale, Melody, if there isn't some neuroscience trick or computerlogic trick I can throw at things.  The macro tapestry is your own domain-of-accumulated-expertise.:  Thellim is trying to figure out what she might have missed, but all that's coming to mind are very abstract and general forms of doom.  :I suppose - Vanyel's mind would have been in rough equilibrium with itself before, changing only slowly, and then we made this huge change and now it's out of equilibrium and there could be rapid changes incoming.  Do you see anything like that looks like it might... go boing... now that we released the forces previously pulling on it?  Especially if it's a bad boing rather than a good boing?:

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:...It does look better. I think. It's not like I've ever tried to deal with this problem before. I - wouldn't be surprised if there are more ripples that haven't happened yet? I can make a guess from this angle, even - there's that area which has been sort of indirectly half blocked off because most paths to it run near the lifebond and were getting sort of pulled in, but it's not pulling anymore... I don't know Vanyel well enough to even guess at what that would feel like to him, though: 

Her expression is calm and pleasant, but her mindvoice is a little worried. 

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:I suppose the key question here is whether Vanyel seems likely to self-harm.  I don't think that's what somebody ought to do, after being relieved of constant pain, but - I'm not actually a Mindhealer and have no actual patient experience.:

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:It's not my first guess of what he'd do! But, again, I barely know him. Yfandes would have a better sense...: A sense of mental frowning, which Melody somehow keeps from showing on her face at all. :Though I don't love the part where we keep talking to her behind his back. Heralds and Companions sometimes tend to think of themselves as a unit, but they're still separate people and it's his mind I'm mucking around in, not hers: 

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Vanyel is eating a piece of bread with cheese that Lissa brought him, and listening - or at least giving the outer appearance of listening - to her chattering out loud to him about her favourite cook from the Horn inn. He looks less like someone forcing himself to eat against great reluctance, but he does seem...distracted, or distant, like he's not actually paying attention to either the food or the conversation. 

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:It's not nice, no.  But I haven't thought of a better option yet?  Where I come from, it'd be understood that the Mindhealer-equivalent person might talk to your relatives or friends about you, and because that was understood, it wouldn't come as a surprise betrayal.  We did tell Vanyel we might talk to Yfandes or Lissa?  I guess that doesn't mean Vanyel has to like it.  But I still don't see better options.:

Thellim takes another look at the macro tapestry, which she can't make heads or tails of, except when Melody is paying attention to something, and then Thellim mostly doesn't understand it anyways.  :Can we try to look at the thread we changed, and its immediate surroundings, again?  I should have thought of this earlier, but we should try to see if that thread or anything connected to it was doing anything else we can understand, besides looping lifebond errors.:

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:Yes, of course. I think I might need your help to find it again, though, I still don't quite have my head around what you were 'looking for': 

Melody opens her shields a little wider, offering Thellim control of her Sight. 

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Well the problem there is that the thread which got cut no longer matches the loops Thellim was searching for.

...Can she just scan for stuff in Vanyel's mind that got Mindhealed within the last few minutes?  Places that had previously been Mindhealed looked distinct to Melody; and if objects in the brain can be marked as modified, it would be only natural for them to have tiny timestamps showing how recently they were modified.

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It seems like she can, but it's not immediately helpful about the scale, and is showing her - not the high-level overall impression, but not anything recognizable as the thread from before either, it's some sort of intermediate-scale view, that still has tapestry-metaphor threads.

The trailing ends aren't exactly woven back into the pattern, but the ends that used to be frayed and disintegrating, constantly under strain, are now...no, not exactly tied off or snipped clean, the metaphor is almost more that they're wet, in the particular way that wetting a cut thread can smooth and weight down the end to make it easier to thread through a needle. (That observation is very filtered through Melody.) 

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:Melody, I'll try something more like my perspective after this, but I think we're - near where the thread was, as seen from your perspective on things.  Can you look around here for anything that you can understand?  Or for that matter, anything that led back into the healthy parts of Vanyel's mind, or would have led there before we changed things?:

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:I need to stare at it awhile longer to really make sense of it, I think. I...don't see anything that obviously would've led back to the healthy parts of his mind before but doesn't now. There are some links back - mostly on the emotion-layer, underneath: and she steers her Sight somehow down-and-through the tapestry, to an underside fuzzy with thread-linkages, like the backside of an embroidered cloth (again, this particular observation-metaphor is entirely coming from Melody, along with her sense that these represent the sorts of implicit emotional associations that people often aren't consciously aware of.) 

:There are links back and forth between most things, though, that's common. I don't think we cut anything. Or...even moved it, much, from this perspective. But whatever we changed, it...looks a lot less likely to unravel more under stress. I don't know if it'll do something else instead, though. Probably if so it'll still be less bad?: 

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All right, deep breath, try to shift this to a more codewise/neural-substrate perspective.  Thellim is looking for a recently modified bit of neural substrate that had execution pathways leading to it from the dark void, and which would, if reverted, have execution pathways going through the dark void.  She'd like to look at that bit of substrate, any other things connected to it, and any other things it would connect to if reverted, with special emphasis on any such things that have execution pathways not going through the dark void... did that work?

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It's there! 

Seen in context - from a perspective more like the unconscious-emotions-underside than the obviously visible surface pattern, but not exactly that, some other differently-angled view - it's woven into the surrounding tapestry, a lot of it, often in bizarre ways that make very little topological sense. 

It's a lot to look at, somewhat chaotic to interpret, but Melody's Mindhealing Sight isn't flagging anything with the emphasis of her last query.

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:- Huh. I don't think I understand what you're checking right now - can you explain more?: 

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:I'm trying to determine whether the thread we found was doing anything else important inside Vanyel's mind, more or less?  I tried to ask the Sight to show me if there were paths going to it, or leading away from it if reactivated, that weren't about the dark void.  It's not showing anything, but I don't know if that means a well-formed query executed successfully and correctly returned a null set, or if my query was malformed or that kind of query doesn't work in general.:

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:I don't know either, sorry. But, well, on a large scale, as far as I can tell the only changes are the lifebond, and what you're looking at right now isn't the same angle but it feels lifebond-related to me as well: 

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Vanyel finishes his bread, and abruptly nudges Lissa's arm off his shoulders and rises onto his heels. :I think it's good. It's much less distracting than before and I don't think it's causing bad side effects. I should go check in with - who's the Herald in charge here, Lissa? They probably need mage-work–: 

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"Vanyel!" Lissa says indignantly, and then seems lost for words. 

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Yfandes turns to look at Thellim and Melody; her expression - again, much more detailed and legible than a horse's face should really be able to convey - is somewhere between apologetic and imploring.

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Vanyel what the ASS are you trying to do.

:Unless mage-work specifically has healing effects on brains, there's probably a better move,: Thellim sends much more calmly than she feels.  'There's probably a better move' doesn't begin to cover it.  His currently proposed strategy is so far suboptimal that sending fully randomized signals down his spinal cord and twitching around on the floor would be 'probably a better move'.  :If mage-work is anything like Mindhealing, it uses concentration while you should be resting.  Also mage-work diminishes appetite and you're still working off a severe caloric deficit.  If what you actually need is something to distract you, to turn off your brain for a while, we can get you -:  They probably don't have many elaborate-puzzle-games in Horn, this place is incredibly poor.  :- books from the nearest library -: oops wait :- or, well, find someone who has a book, there's got to be someone.  But Vanyel, you need to rest your thoughts and emotions, we literally just performed surgery on them.  You don't run on a broken leg the doctor just splinted.  If you feel a strong need to be working you can - move bales of hay around, with your arms, maybe?  But not mage-work.:

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:Vanyel, I'm going to have to second that. The smart thing, if you want to be at your best again as soon as possible, is to rest now: Melody tilts her head a little to the side, tugging at her collar again. :Also, I'd like to throw in an argument that resting is more pleasant than flinging yourself right back at the bottomless pit of mage-work, and you've earned it. Actually I think you'd earned it two months ago and should've been pulled off the Border for leave then:  

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:Randi couldn't afford to give me leave. I'm not sure he can now: 

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:From what I hear, we're really not in imminent danger of losing the war. And it'd be a smart move on Randi's part to give you leave before you collapse, so he can send you back out when things heat up again: 

Melody sighs. 

:But I feel like we keep missing the point, which is that you're a goddamned human being and you deserve one afternoon to be kind to yourself: 

She gives Thellim a pleading look, as if hoping for backup on this point. 

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Vanyel mostly seems distracted, again, and vaguely irritated with them. 

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:Vanyel, I offer-demand-indicate-willingness to bet you at 10-to-1 odds that if we describe this situation to Randi later, without telling him our past opinions, and ask Randi what he thinks would be an appropriate course of action, Randi's answer will include you resting for at least one night after surgery.  There may be some other goal your mind is trying to accomplish, by diving directly into mage-work now; but whatever that thing is, you need to acknowledge it explicitly to yourself, and then find an alternative way to accomplish it.  A way which also involves eating a lot of food.  Does this world have the concept of 'Healer's orders'?:

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Vanyel turns and glares at her, genuine anger flashing in his eyes for a moment. :You're NOT telling Randi about this: 

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:Formal apologies,: Thellim sends immediately, bowing her head and turning it in a gesture of abnegation (that's hopefully a built-in universal rather than cultural? she doesn't actually know).  :I will convey nothing of your medical record or your mind-state to Randi without your explicit consent, Vanyel, in accordance with my people's standard-professional-ethical-code of medicine.  I was not attempting to suggest anything along those lines, but rather saying that - if you think Randi's opinion would be an actually good one - I was offering to bet on what that would be?  It was meant to be very narrowly about other people's opinions held in common respect, and betting among ourselves on how those observables will turn out.  I'm sorry if it sounded like my threatening to release your information, whose ownership-by-you I acknowledge.:

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:Oh: Vanyel settles back, looking sheepish and somewhat flustered. :Er, sorry: 

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:Van: Yfandes addresses him, but includes all of them. :I know you don't like - feeling like you're taking up other people's time and attention, or like they're seeing the worst parts of you. But when you get embarrassed and defensive about it, especially no one else is even slightly feeling like you're wasting their time or you're unusually broken and that's shameful, I think it's pretty disorienting when you suddenly get prickly about things. Sorry, Thellim: 

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Vanyel seems unsure whether to glare at Yfandes too or take it gracefully and thank her. He stares at the ground instead. 

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:Vanyel, it's fine, I've done stupider things as a medical patient.  We all want to stop bugging you and leave you be.  But you need to rest and eat; your judgment on this subject may be impaired by factors including recent Mindhealing; and we're worried that you'll run out and start doing mage-work.  Does Valdemar have the educational methodology of administering transient mind-altering drugs to young adults, in order to let them practice falling back on very simple and reliable rules of reasoning under cognitive stress?  Fallback rules like not harming yourself, not harming others, not doing things that all of your friends are unanimously telling you not to do?  I'm trying to invoke the third rule there with respect to mage-work.:

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:Huh? No: Vanyel scowls. :I’ve had about three meals just since I got here, aren’t you happy yet?:

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:Vanyel, I think that isn't the main point. You're - hmm, how do I put this - you're thinking about this in a way where you're predictably going to burn yourself out, whether or not there's a good reason for it. I really do get that there may have been a good reason, before, for the last six months of this war, and people form habits. And I think now is a good time to try to switch to different habits. This war isn't going to be over anytime soon - whatever happens, you need a pace that's more sustainable than...: Vague gesture. 

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:I guess: 

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:I - want to claim that I meant you needed to eat very well over the next few days - but that's false, what actually happened is that even though I saw you eat one meal my subdeliberate-perceptual-cognition is still sending up alarm tones about how you look medically-dangerously thin, so it still wants to -: tie Vanyel to a chair and force-feed him lavender cookies until he's okay :- go on making you eat more meals until the alarm shuts off.  Which my full-conscious-deliberation-cognition does realize is not how biology works.  Sorry...:

:I think everyone except Melody and Vanyel - even Yfandes, if that's okay - are supposed to clear out of the room at this point.  He does need to have a postoperative conversation with his doctor.  But we're collectively-summatively badgering Vanyel too much, and we're all bad at that except for Melody the professional specialist, and if anything does need to be said to Vanyel it shouldn't be said while he's socially-forced-to-think-about-other-people-watching.  Melody, correct me if I was wrong; and if not, the rest of us should go.:

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:No, that sounds right to me. Vanyel, is that what you want?: 

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Vanyel blinks at her. :I - yes, that's fine. Er, that sounds good, I mean -: 

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Lissa squeezes his shoulder a moment longer, and then backs off and stands. "Tell me right away if you need anything, all right?" she says out loud, in Valdemaran. "Honestly, abusing my rank to make things happen for my brother is really satisfying, and it's not like I get many chances to do that." 

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Thellim starts to head outdoors before remembering that it was raining out there.  :Lissa or Yfandes, directions to nearest nonwet warm place?  Doesn't need to be isolated for private conversation if we're Mindspeeching anyways.:

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:We can go back to my tent: Lissa offers, heading for the door. 

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Yfandes stays exactly where she is. 

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Melody gives her a meaningful look, which Yfandes doesn't appear to notice. 

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:Yfandes?  Correct me if I'm mistaken, but - I don't think your lifebond-replacement to Vanyel is strong enough that he no longer sees you as an external social agent whose opinions he has to consider and whose status-perception of him he'd instinctively try to manage while also having conversations with his doctor.:

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Yfandes’ tail flicks, unhappily. :You - think I should leave?:

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:Based only on info that has already been publicly revealed - I don't actually have the ability to interpret Vanyel's mind-state, even as seen with Melody in concert-sight - it would look like Vanyel has a systematic difficulty about asking for things that he needs.  It may be that one of the things he needs, and doesn't ask for enough, is privacy.:

:I think you should tell Vanyel that it's okay if he wants you to stay, or okay if he wants you to stay but not be in the Mindspeech link, but otherwise you'll go with the others.  You can optionally add 'because Thellim said that was doctor's orders' if your better model of Vanyel leads you to worry that he'll think you're - abandoning him, that you don't want to be with him?  We did see in your own mind that this was not the case.:

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:...I guess that makes sense: Yfandes is clearly reluctant, but she isn’t disagreeing. 

She turns to nose at Vanyel’s shoulder, and includes him in her Mindspeech. :Melody thought it should be up to you if you want me to stay for this, or go, or be nearby but not listening in. I’m fine with whatever you need. If you’re not sure, I’ll go with Thellim for now and you can call if you decide you want me here?:

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Vanyel gives her a blank, indecisive look, then shrugs. :I...guess it might be helpful to just talk to Melody for a bit:

He swallows a yawn, then rubs his eyes.

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:Of course: Yfandes blows softly into his hair, then gracefully unfolds herself from the floor. Her ears twitch in concern at Vanyel’s visible fatigue, but she doesn’t say anything, just watches him a moment longer and then slips out after Lissa.

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:Thank you: Melody sends privately to Thellim, though her eyes are still on Vanyel.

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Thellim shall tromp out with Yfandes and Lissa and head for Lissa's tent.

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As soon as they reach it, Lissa retrieves the jug of wine and cups again, pours three, then drops onto one of the stools with a groan, propping her shoulders against the bookshelf and her feet up on the table.

:Well, I guess that - went a lot better than it could have:

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(Yfandes, too big to fit in the tent, hovers and paces outside.)

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(to Yfandes, Lissa)  :What's in the cup?  And, at least on the surface of things, assuming that there are no invisible side effects and that the great shift in his mental equilibrium ends up good for Vanyel, I would easily rate it 10 out of 12 on the Manic Science scale.:

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Lissa giggles, nervous and quickly choked off. :It’s wine. What’s the Manic Science scale?:

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:It's not a formal-standardized-scale, but broadly it measures how much you can combine neuroscience and Mindhealing from two different dimensions, on the spot, without doing any advance investigation or small-scale tests, and have that actually work out great.:  Thellim still has an uneasy feeling about this, but Vanyel does seem better, literary tropes aside.  :What's 'wine'?  It sounds like a transient mind-altering drug, but what does it do and why would we want to consume something like that now?:

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:Wine makes everything better: Lissa shakes her head a little. :It’s watered, not that strong. You really don’t want to drink the water here plain - even when we boil it, it tastes like feet. Which have been in the same set of damp boots all summer:

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Thellim gives the wine a wide-eyed look of innocent credulity.  It makes everything better?  That sounds super valuable.

:How much does wine cost?:

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:Well, a bottle of good wine costs - hmm, I guess you don’t know our money, it’d be about a day’s wages for a laborer: She gestures dismissively at the jug. :This is not good wine, so who knows, but it’s drinkable and it does the job:

She takes a long gulp from her own cup. 

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Thellim leans over to give the wine a closer look.  :And there's literally no downsides?  It improves all aspects of mentation simultaneously?:

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:Oh, I mean, it’s not like it makes you sharper, for alertness you want something else. And I guess not everyone likes it. It’s...relaxing, I guess - it makes overwhelming things feel easier... I dunno:

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:Ale and wine usually make people - less disciplined, I guess? More in the mood for rest or celebrating, not working. Some people get impulsive or angry or want to do dangerous stunts, but usually that’s sixteen-year-old boys when they’re egging each other on. If you drink enough you’ll start slurring your words and stumbling, I wouldn’t recommend that: 

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Lissa rolls her eyes. :Speak for yourself: 

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:Except Lissa, who starts fights with tough men in taverns when she’s had a few. And generally wins. Van finds it mortifying:

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Giggle.

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Thellim carefully sidles away from the wine.  On second thought, she will not be exploring the space of mind-altering drugs developed by a tiny region with no standard-professional-ethical-codes that does not know what neurons are.  She's afraid to even ask what the experimental protocols were like before this product was rolled out.  Two patient groups of size N=12 with the results recorded in crayon, she's guessing.

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Lissa shrugs and lets this slide.

:Anyway. I can’t believe Van tried to jump right back into working. He’s impossible sometimes:

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Thellim realizes she has a new private theory about Vanyel.  It is not one she can talk about to not-Melody people without Vanyel's permission.  It explains why somebody in constant untreatable pain might have his System 1 steer him to refuse to eat, go in a hostile place with constant exposure to violence, and then, after being given medical treatment that might otherwise increase his expected lifespan, try to run off and do exhausting magework immediately after that.

But it didn't seem like Vanyel was consciously suicidal, so they should give him some time to get used to being in less pain, maybe, before Melody tries to talk to him about that.  If Thellim is even right about this theory at all.

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:A Gate would definitely be the fastest way to get to Haven. It's a pretty intensive mage-working, though, and Van is... He has extra difficulty with it. Yfandes, can you explain better...?: 

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Outside, Yfandes stops, kicks at a clod of mud.

:His Gifts were violently ripped open with Gate-energy specifically. He's - very sensitive to it - it causes him agonizing pain while he's casting, and if he's unlucky he'll be unconscious or delirious for days afterward. Crossing someone else's Gate hurts him some, but not nearly as bad: 

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:Can you try to narrow-and-quantify 'hurts him some, but not nearly as bad'.:

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:...Er, it's quite distressing while he's actually crossing, and he usually has a headache afterward, but not so bad he can't sleep, and standard painkillers help. I don't like it when he has to, I think it should be reserved for emergencies, but in this case it's arguably worth it if Savil's up for the Gate - it's not like riding twelve candlemarks a day for most of a week will be a piece of cake for him either, in this weather, and if we take a slower pace we lose even more time: She tosses her mane. :Personally I think it's almost never justified for Vanyel to Gate himself anywhere, but of course he'll offer anyway: 

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:It's not obvious that what I need to do in Haven, technological-uplift-wise, needs Vanyel to be there right away?  Riding twelve candlemarks a day for most of a week could potentially give him some time alone that he might need?  Or is one or both of those thoughts dumb, somehow?  And I forgot to ask if Melody would be coming with us, or coming with him, or neither...:

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:- Oh, are you thinking you might Gate to Haven on your own, and we could come separately? I...would prefer that, I guess, given that we can sleep indoors at least on the journey. Van will feel guilty about it but I could probably convince him: 

A pause. 

:I have no idea what Melody's planning. I think none of us've had time to think about it. And Healers would need to approve her relocating, I assume, probably deploy another Mindhealer to replace her here... Though it'd be a weight off my mind if she were around for Vanyel to keep seeing her. But she'd slow us down by a lot if she traveled overland with us, and she might be miserable - she'd have to ride an ordinary horse and I don't know how experienced a rider she is: 

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:Under less complicated circumstances I'd think the path of common sense would be Vanyel taking a relaxed, gentle course home.  But - well, I'm worried about a number of things, like whether nobody can stop Vanyel from running off to do mage-work.  Or help Vanyel if something weird does develop as a result of the work I did with Melody.  But on the converse side - did the Gate thing happen to him at the same time as the lifebond broke?  Because that sounds like if Vanyel is approaching the Gate, it should be with Thellimelody monitoring him, and potentially getting ready to call off Vanyel's transit.  In case the brain damage wasn't just a broken lifebond.:

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:- It was the same time, yes: Yfandes is suddenly tense. :Or within seconds, anyway. It wasn't the broken lifebond itself that caused it, it was - the Gate was tied to his life-force, and a trainee tried to take it down...: 

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Lissa shivers. 

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:...It does occur to me that if anyone could figure out why Van reacts this way and fix it, it'd be you with Melody: 

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:...if, it turns out, we can fix it right away, does somebody immediately start Gating Vanyel all over the entire region in order to do lots of mage-work?  Maybe I shouldn't even ask but - I worry about consequences, there.:

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:I guess it'd be a little unrealistic to fix it and then not tell anyone and pretend he still can't: A mental sigh. :I don't think we start doing that, though. Gates are tiring even if they don't hurt him, and they also play hell with the weather, it gets problematic to use them a lot: 

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Thellim knows that she ought to have this conversation with Vanyel, when Vanyel is in better shape.  The trouble is, she is not confident of Vanyel's ability to say no to things that hurt him but that might help other people.  That part where Vanyel stumbled off the metaphorical operating table and tried to start work immediately after has shaken her, to be honest.

(tightbeam, Yfandes only)  :Yfandes, in your best judgment, will Vanyel hurt himself through overwork if given the ability to Gate more freely.  Not should he, will he.:

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After a very long pause:

:...He might:

Another few seconds of thought.

:Not - not if things were going well, I think? He was doing much better than this before the war - but when everything around us feels like it's falling apart, it's...hard: 

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:And, I hate to ask it, but compared to that probability, how likely does it seem that in the next week or two there could be some huge emergency where Vanyel has to be able to Gate somewhere or else many many people die.:

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Yfandes starts to answer, then hesitates again, thinking. 

:Not...as unlikely as I wish. But he can do distance-work too, if there's a battle and he isn't in the right place. I don't think it's urgent to mess with this in the next week. Seems safer to space it out: 

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Lissa, after a few beats of waiting with a puzzled expression, pours herself more wine and then sort of awkwardly half-waves at Thellim. She's used to people having private Mindspeech side conversations in front of her - she does work with Heralds, after all - but in this particular case she really wants to know what's going on. 

:So what's the plan?: she asks. :I would order Vanyel not to Gate, except he outranks me and he would point that out: 

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:Current baseline plan to meliorize against is Gating myself to Haven so I can start talking to engineers; but asking Vanyel to avoid non-extreme-emergency Gates for the next couple of weeks, due to their prior involvement in the incident we just did mind-surgery on.  And him taking a non-emergency ride back to Haven which will give him time to adjust to mental changes, recover from warzone stuff, and eat tasty things in warm inns.  I'm admittedly not sure how we do that if Vanyel outranks everybody and your organization doesn't have fallback options like 'outvoted by Lissa plus two Healers on medical grounds'.:

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:The Healers do sometimes place Heralds off-duty on medical grounds. If Melody thinks it's a bad idea he'll hopefully listen to her?: 

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:He was decent about listening to Lancir, before: Yfandes offers. :Well. Most of the time: 

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:I don't have a better plan, unless you've got an established process for Visitors from Faraway assuming command over leading mages.  Though maybe Melody should wait to talk to him about that tomorrow, give him a chance to rest overnight before arguing with him about something else.:

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:Mmm, probably: 

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There's a longish silence. 

Eventually Lissa takes another gulp of wine, and re-props her feet. :So. What was that about you having done something even stupider once when you were a patient? Sounds like a story: 

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:I'm... not sure it translates very well... but in my defense, they should put stronger access restrictions on medical devices than 'press Start three times to enter doctor mode' if patients are actually genuinely not supposed to modify those settings.:

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Lissa furrows her brow, trying to follow the string of mostly-unfamiliar concepts. :You had - some sort of tool that did Healing, and it - let you write in different instructions somehow, except only the Healer was supposed to do that?: She grins briefly. 

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:Yes!  It was very funny.  Many people who were not the Healer laughed with my parents about it afterwards.  Now I'm in a new dimension where nobody knows exactly what happened back then and IN THE NAME OF MY ASS it's going to STAY THAT WAY.:

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:All right, all right! I won't say a word: Lissa holds a finger to her lips. 

Her expression turns serious again after a moment, and she stares vaguely at the tent-flap. :I wish I could be there with him. I know it's not what he needs right now. Still: 

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:This whole Very Serious Conversation is because Vanyel is no longer stuck in an endless loop of pain and loss, and has instead transitioned to local transient pain and loss that he can get back out of again.  Let's not lose sight of the tentative possible local partial victory!:

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Elsewhere, Melody resettles herself on the crate, smoothes down her robes and tugs her sleeves straight, and then blinks owlishly at Vanyel. 

"I'm sorry, I didn't really have a chance to give you the usual talk. You've seen a Mindhealer before, so you've got some context, but I'll just run through how I do things. First, everything you tell me now is something I'll keep entirely private, unless you give permission for me to discuss it with others - I would appreciate being able to talk some of this over with Thellim, given how involved she's been, but it's your decision. I do plan to take some notes, since I see a lot of people out here and it gets hard to keep them straight. They would be in a cipher I invented; no one else can read it. Is that all right?" 

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Vanyel blinks, slightly overwhelmed by the rapid-fire pace of Melody's words. "Er, yes, both of those are fine." 

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"Also, I'd like to apologize for not handling this perfectly before, and in particular for going through Yfandes and Lissa without having discussed that with you first and gotten your go-ahead. You weren't in a great state to answer a lot of questions, so I am glad we had the option, but now that you're more with it, I intend to talk to you directly as much as possible. I do want to check if you're all right with making exceptions to that in any future emergencies, though. What do you think?" 

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"....Do what makes sense, I guess." 

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Melody sighs, tugging at her collar. "I'm getting the impression you're not totally comfortable with that. How about, for now, I'll err on the side of only asking Yfandes, and only if you're literally unable to answer. We can discuss it more later, once you've had a chance to get settled." 

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"- Hey, Vanyel, listen to me. I'm sorry today went the way it did; I can't imagine it's how you wanted your day to go. I can imagine you don't like - this particular facet of your past being discussed by multiple people. And I get that you're still incredibly worn down, six months on the border'll do that to anyone and they've used you harder than most Heralds. Trust me, I've heard the songs." 

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Vanyel winces. 

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"Sorry. The real thing's never as glorious as the Bards make it out to be, is it? Or glorious at all." Melody lets out her breath. "Vanyel, I know we're asking a lot of you in one day, and I intend to let you get some rest as soon as possible - but if you can manage it, I do want to ask for one more thing. Can you take a couple of minutes, and think about what you need from me, to feel, well, able to talk about it?" 

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Vanyel scowls, then takes a deep breath, and nods. "Sorry. I'm - not making this easy for you, am I. I'll try." 

He closes his eyes. Tries to relax. It's not easy, when he's still on edge, his nerves raw - and the exhaustion lurks, having Mindhealing work done always takes a lot out of him. It feel like the adrenaline is all that's keeping him moving. One step at a time, one endless day after another until the days turn to years, dragging himself through a war he doesn't want to be fighting - a life he doesn't want to be living, a duty he never asked for... 

Stop. The quiet voice in the back of his mind is waving an imaginary metaphorical flag.

It's different now. In some sense everything is different, and he's - what - he's avoiding it, he keeps trying to put it off until later, always later, in a war zone there's never time to stop or rest or think except that's clearly stupid and he can picture all too clearly the face that Thellim would make about it. 

He lifts a hand. "Sorry, I just - I need a minute to...think, I guess." 

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"Of course. It's a lot harder to think when things keep happening and we keep hassling you. I'll wait." 

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Vanyel nods, gratefully, and then closes his eyes again and rubs his face with both hands. 

Tylendel. 

(A bounce, disorienting but not painful -) 

He's trying not to think about Tylendel on sheer habit, because there's an emergency - there's been a nonstop emergency for six months - and there isn't TIME, and distractions have always helped, if he's busy enough, desperate enough, sometimes he can almost block out the part of him that never stops screaming and never stops hurting and just wants it to end - 

It doesn't hurt now. 

Vanyel pinches the bridge of his nose, and tries to notice, not how he expects to feel, not the long-worn groove of thoughts he's looped over a thousand times, but how he actually feels, right here, right now. 

The answer is 'not great'. His eyes are sore and gritty with fatigue, his head aches dully, and he's suddenly all too aware of his sore throat and the various aches and pains left by months sleeping in a tent. He wants - a flinch, he's not used to letting himself notice what he wants, it's not like it's ever mattered is the cached refrain but...is that true...he's pretty sure Thellim would have an objection, she would make that FACE again and it would be mortifying. 

What would Tylendel say? 

(- a bounce -)

Tylendel would...hug him, and say he needed a bath - accompanied by that little eyebrow-waggle, Vanyel can picture it so clearly even now - and he would call Randi half a dozen creative names, and fuss over all his new scars...

A pang of - not agony, not the howling void, what - it takes a surprisingly long time to name it as grief. Ordinary grief, like he could imagine feeling if - if Lissa died, say, or Savil. (Both of these are awful, agonizing thoughts, but there's still something fundamentally different...) 

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"Vanyel?" 

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He blinks back to awareness.

"...He's dead." 

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"I'm sorry. I know I can't begin to imagine what it's like." 

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Vanyel waves a hand, vaguely. "I - no - that isn't -" He shakes his head, helplessly. "He's dead. Gone. I - how does it make any sense that I - it felt like I knew that, it felt like I've spent a decade never ever forgetting it, but I didn't - not really - I couldn't, he was still everything, my entire life is about him and losing him and missing him and - and he's, just, gone..."

He rakes a hand through his hair, which come to think of it is disgusting, somehow he's apparently spent months oblivious to that. "Sorry. I'm not making any sense, am I?" 

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"No, it makes sense to me." Melody watches him expectantly, listening, her eyes still and her fidgeting confined to one hand rolling and unrolling the hem of her sleeve. 

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"I - how do I say this - it's almost like I...haven't been remembering or grieving or missing him at all? I was - missing my lifebond - it was, it took up so much space, there wasn't any left to, to actually remember him. He, I - we were only together for three months." 

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"I'm so sorry." 

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Vanyel ducks his head, hugging himself slightly. "I - no - I feel like I keep not saying what I mean to. It's... I mean, everyone loses people, right? If it's just that, it's - it's not this uniquely horrible thing -" 

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Melody purses her lips, crossing her arms. "Vanyel. It's not a competition. You're not wronging all the other grieving people in the world by hurting." 

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"That isn't what I meant!" It's really frustrating, actually, he's trying to SAY something here but he doesn't quite have his head around it. "It's just, I - I hate it, being - broken in a way that no one else is..." 

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"Oh." Melody blinks, but her voice stays mild. "I see. That's understandable." A pause. "You're incredibly strong and resilient, you know. It's rather impressive." 

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This earns her the most dubious look imaginable. 

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"No, I'm serious. Thellim even said so. She said, hmm, what was her wording - that she respects you a lot, and she thought you could maybe, probably, handle the trauma and pain of everything you've been through, if we could get your thoughts to stop looping around the literal damage to your brain from the broken lifebond." 

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Vanyel's expression is not entirely non-dubious, but he nods. "Mmm." 

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Melody waits for a while in silence. 

"- You don't have to, of course, but...it might help to talk about him. What he was like, as a person - a real person, not your idealized memories of a lifebonded partner. What your time together was like. I imagine there's a lot you weren't even able to process before, because you couldn't ever finish a thought about it." 

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Vanyel winces and starts to answer in the negative without actually thinking about it, and then catches himself, and stops. Tries to actually think. 

"...Maybe." It's exactly the sort of thing Lancir would say, did say - and Lancir was right, even back when every thought of Tylendel (- bounce -) was inexorably tangled up in the confusing agony of the broken lifebond, talking about him helped

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"Hmm. To start out, I guess, what would he think of your friend Thellim?" 

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"I don't know if she's my friend," Vanyel protests. "I just met her. ...I, hmm, he - would like her, though. He would find it cute how, hmm, how - innocent she is in some ways. He'd tease her about it, but - not in a mean way..." 

It hurts. Knowing, really and truly recognizing and acknowledging, that this is only a hypothetical and will never be anything more - that all that's left in the world of Tylendel is the echo of a ghost, the memories in Vanyel's own head. 

And in other people's heads. It's kind of unbelievable, actually, Savil knew 'Lendel for years before Vanyel ever met him, and he's - never even asked her... 

It hurts, but in an ordinary way. He never imagined that being something he was grateful for. 

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"- Vanyel?" 

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"...That he'd be furious with me for, er, for..." He gives up on words, and just gestures vaguely at himself. 

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"For treating yourself like horseshit? Of course. He loved you. No one ever wants to see the people they love in a bad way." 

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Vanyel snorts, half a bitter laugh, a quarter of the way toward a choked-back sob, but his lips can't help smiling faintly. "He'd be so offended about my hair. And my clothes. He, he always liked when I dressed nicely..." 

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Melody nods, returning his sad smile. "He sounds - good. I wish you hadn't lost him. ...And, for now, I'd suggest you pull rank to get the nice bathhouse, and take a lovely long hot bath. In memory of him, also doctor's orders, and because you can and you've damned well earned it. And then have some good food and get some sleep."

She tilts her head to the side, looks thoughtfully at him. "If you, well, start having a lot of distressing thoughts or feelings, or - anything weird - please do call for me. Even if it's the middle of the night. But I reckon right now you need a hot bath more than you need a Mindhealer. What do you think?" 

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...Vanyel is somewhat distracted, thinking of how Tylendel (- a bounce, but he's starting to get used to it, it's not quite so disorienting) would leer at the idea of getting him alone and naked in a bath. - And then probably be so offended at how thin he is right now. 

"I'd like that," he says, slowly. 

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"I hope so! You know, I bet your Tylendel wouldn't want you taking a grimly determined bath. This may be too much pressure for one night, but - figure you can take a bath and enjoy it?" 

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Vanyel snorts. His eyes are burning slightly but his lips are still trying to smile. "Maybe. We'll see." 

He stands up, which takes more effort than he was expecting. :'Fandes? I'm done here, I think: 

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:Oh good!: 

A pause. 

:I can come meet you, but...well, Thellim mentioned to me earlier that she thought you might want some privacy, after all this. And that you wouldn't ask. Which, of course you wouldn't: A wash of affection. :So I'll leave it up to you. Come find me in the stables if you want snuggles, or ask me to meet you, but I won't crowd you:  

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....Huh. 

Vanyel nods to Melody, slips out of the store-room, and stands in the mud and drizzle, considering it. It feels like he should want to see his Companion, but what would Thellim– no, what would 'Lendel (- bounce -) have to say about "should"... 

:I'd appreciate a ride to the bathhouse: he says eventually. :And - then I do want some time to myself, I think. Though at this rate I'll be lucky if I make it to a bed rather than falling asleep in the tub: 

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:Don't you dare: A mental chuckle. :I love you, Chosen. I'm - very proud of you. I'll be there soon: 

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After another candlemark or so of waiting, and two more cups of wine, Lissa thinks to offer Thellim somewhere to sleep in the camp tonight, on the assumption that neither she nor Vanyel will be very in the mood to pitch their tent again. Rank is useful sometimes, and she's able to summon a page and have Thellim granted a nicer tent all to herself and a bedroll from the stores. 

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Just as Lissa is escorting her over to it, Yfandes Mindtouches both of them to announce that Vanyel is done seeing Melody and is currently taking a bath by himself. 

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That... sounds like a good thing?  If Vanyel was somehow trying to hurt himself right now, he'd be unlikely to stumble on taking a bath as the best solution, even subconsciously.

(to Yfandes)  :Good to hear.  If Vanyel's basically functioning then I won't ask you for his info, it's his info now, but it sounds like he IS functioning to the point where he could take possession of his own info and that sounds like a good thing.:

(to Lissa)  :Speaking of baths, at some point I'm going to need to do something about washing myself and my clothes.  Could tough it out another day until Haven, if Haven has absolute-advantage at bathing and laundry, but I'd also not want to tough it out if there's no reason to?  Getting caught in the rain probably helped, but it doesn't seem like quite a sufficient solution.:

 

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:Thank you. We haven't discussed it yet, the relaying information part, but - just, thank you: 

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:There's a laundry here!: Lissa seems delighted at the existence of a SECOND item she can personally help with. :I guess you'll need to borrow something to wear in the meantime - we're not really the same size, but I can have something sent over... There's a waiting list for the baths but I could get you bumped ahead too, or order a washbasin to your room if you can wait to do your hair: 

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(to Yfandes)  :Glad to be of service.  I've never in my life helped any one person that much before,: assuming it did in fact work permanently and without significant negative side effects, :and it's a very good feeling.:  That will feel much more solid once she's sure that it was in fact a good deed.

(to Lissa)  :If the wait is a candlemark I'll wait, if not - then I guess realistically I should take the bump, given that I'm trying to juggle some important work and I may need to talk to Very Serious People tomorrow.  But goodness does it feel awful to admit that I need the bump, and I understand Vanyel a little better now.:   Valdemar Syndrome, she's guessing, happens in part when people don't put enough prices on aspects of their social organization; they feel socially awkward asking for special treatment, instead of just paying more for it.  :Also if you have paper and pencil, that isn't too horrifically expensive, that would be helpful for organizing my thoughts.:

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:I think right now the waiting list is at least three days. don't feel bad about bumping you. And, sure, I can get you paper, and a pen. What's a 'pencil'?: 

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:A pencil is a pen that writes using solid ink that stays on the surface of the paper, so an eraser can wipe it off if you make a mistake!  We use graphite but I've got no idea how to manufacture particular molecular structures of carbon in a low-tech economy.  I'd expect the idiom to extend to other substances, though, we've just got to find something cheaper that can be rubbed off from paper without damaging it.  Meanwhile I'll take a pen and think more before writing.:

:...and I'll take the bath, I guess, and the borrowed clothes.  It'd be good if my otherworldly clothes can be laundered before the Gate?  It'd diminish the burden of credibility I have to shoulder without Vanfandes present.:

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Lissa will cheerfully arrange this! The main effect of her copious wine consumption seems to be that she's having more fun. 

The clothes she's lent are plain homespun linen, dyed brown, and somewhat too big. The bathtub is copper and not that spacious, but it has a pump and a tank heated over a boiler, rather than requiring buckets of water to be carried in, and the water is plenty hot. 

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Thellim lowers herself into the... passable attempt at a bath... and finally takes a moment to stop and think to herself, as she tries to scrub dirt off her skin in the presumably-limited bath time she has available.  She's more used to thinking in the shower, but, well, low GDP per capita and heating water costs energy.

If Thellim hasn't forgotten anything, her current list of issues looks like:

- Figure out what Valdemar can sell fast enough to become rich rapidly enough that the children don't starve in winter.
-- Maybe nobody has developed pencils and maybe other countries would pay a lot for those?
-- Maybe this line of thought really should mostly wait on her getting to Haven, a city large enough that it will no doubt have market research specialists.
- Figure out everything she did wrong procedurally while she was doing Manic Science to Vanyel.
-- This item seems relatively more urgent, in case there's anything she can do to remedy that afterwards before Vanyel and her and Melody all split up.
- See if it's possible to help Vanyel more by just talking to him from another world's standpoint?
-- More generally, check Vanyel for additional quests in a quest chain now that the last one has been semi-completed.
- Figure out what form of mind control is on Yfandes, possibly other Companions.
-- After what, the next question is who and why, followed by whether the mind control can and should be partially or wholly broken.
-- Even if Yfandes isn't unique in being controlled, this project might go better with a Mindhealer and not just verbal probes from Thellim; so maybe Thellimelody has to do it tomorrow?
--- Unless Melody follows Thellim through the Gate.  Which might be a sellable idea given the effectiveness of the Thellimelody merge and that Haven may have other previously untreatable cases to do Manic Science to.
--- Or unless Thellim can unlock her Mindhealing potential, which brings up:
- What's the usual way of unlocking Mindhealing potential, and any other latent Gifts Thellim proves to have?  Thellim forgot to ask how to do that, and Melody seemed to think Thellim had the Gift but it wasn't open.
- Review recent events to see if they hint at an Improbable Hand organizing Thellim's arrival towards some decipherable later purpose...

Actually, even on preliminary review, events rather seem to hint that way?  Thellim arrived near the most powerful mage, in a country where children would otherwise starve to death in winter.  Thellim had an active Mindspeaking gift, powerful enough to reach non-Mindspeakers like Lissa across the language barrier, and/or powerful enough to hold up Thellim's end of concert-work.  Shortly after, Thellim and Vanyel ended up near enough to a Mindhealer that she and Melody together could significantly help Vanyel.  Thellim had her own Mindhealing potential, which may have contributed to that success, but not open potential.

This could all be coincidence, but it sure looks like a teleological strategy by an agent with superhuman forecasting ability, but a limited resource budget for things like giving Thellim Gifts that are already open.  Maybe Thellimelody should take a stronger poke at seeing if Vanyel has meliorable Gate issues, just in case that's part of the Plan?  Thellimelody wouldn't necessarily have to tell Vanyel right away what they'd done, before his rest was over; but Vanyel would still have that resource in emergencies.  Thellim will have to think about the ethics of that.

Wait, now she's starting to go depth-first instead of breadth-first on her list of issues.  Also she's slowed down too much on scrubbing herself, there are people waiting.

Thellim starts in on her hair.  If Haven doesn't have more advanced bathing technology she'll probably end up cutting her hair.  The thought feels sad, sadder than Thellim would have expected, but Thellim's previous decision to grow long hair was premised on access to more technologically advanced haircare and also generally lower opportunity costs on her time.

Adaptation is a virtue.  Not always a happy virtue, but a virtue nonetheless.

- Make Vanyel eat more food.  No, more food than that.  Make him keep eating until he stops looking like he's going to die.

Thellim's just going to keep thinking that until she gives in and explicitly adds it to her mental list of open tasks, isn't she?  Fine, consider it added, silly brain.

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Vanyel takes a long bath, reheating the water with magic when it starts to get cold.

Alone in the privacy of the bathhouse - well, bath-tent - he spends a while poking at the broken lifebond.

It does, in fact, still hurt when he thinks of Tylendel. But only for a moment; it's no longer the constant, sucking vortex of pain always tugging at the back of his mind.

And...in a way, it hurts less now than quite a lot of other thoughts. 

Killing a thousand Karsite soldiers in a single moment of incandescent rage. The shame he felt after. Normal people, people who aren't him, can't do that much damage. 

Riding through burned fields - or, somehow almost worse, not burned at all, just abandoned, empty, the crops rotting in the autumn rains with no one there to harvest them. 

The time he stumbled up to an abandoned cottage, too tired to pitch his tent, and looked inside in hopes of finding a place to sleep, and instead found the shriveled bodies of two children, maybe eight and ten, curled up alone on a straw mattress. 

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Eventually, when dusk is falling outside, Yfandes reaches out with a gentle Mindtouch. She keeps her mental distance, leaving him the privacy of his thoughts, but probably she can sense his mood.

She doesn't comment on it, though. :Chosen, you should get some sleep: 

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:I guess: 

Of course, the problem with this plan is that he needs a place to sleep, and he's way too tired to even think about the prospect of putting up his tent. 

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An affectionate mental pat. :Lissa thought of that. You can go here: She flashes him an image and sense of direction. 

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:Oh. Can you - thank her for me...: 

Swaying with sheer exhaustion, Vanyel hauls himself out of the bath and puts on the robe that someone appears to have thoughtfully dropped off for him - Lissa, maybe, he'll try to remember to ask her... 

He makes his way to the tent, half asleep on his feet, and vaguely thinks that he has no idea where his saddlebags are and should probably do something about that, but the narrow folding cot is singing a siren song of temptation to him. Also there's a pocket pie laid out for him, the kind with a pastry layer tough enough to hold together so it can be eaten on the run. It's still warm. 

He manages to eat half of it before his eyelids start sticking shut, and he gives up and flops down on the cot and is asleep within thirty seconds. 

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And then, some time later, there's a frozen wasteland, snow blowing in a bitter wind, and a man dressed in black with an army at his back, facing Vanyel across fifty yards of empty white. 

"Herald Vanyel." 

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Wow he is incredibly not in the mood for this. 

Vanyel does his best to keep his face perfectly level and uninformative. "Leareth." 

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Leareth takes a step forward, his eyes widening very slightly. He looks Vanyel over head-to-toe. 

"- It appears I am missing some context." 

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It is UNFAIR how Leareth is somehow the most perceptive person in the entire history of the world and can always tell when Vanyel is hiding something. 

"Maybe," he says, as neutrally as he can manage. "I'm not sure why I would tell you, though." 

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Leareth inclines his head a little in acknowledgment. Keeps looking at Vanyel in that uncomfortable way that makes it feel like he's seeing right through Vanyel's skin. 

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What in all hells is THAT supposed to mean. 

"Er, thank you, I guess?" 

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Leareth nods fractionally, and then goes on LOOKING at him, his eyes calculating and otherwise unreadable. 

"I imagine you have found a new Mindhealer," he says finally. "An exceptionally skilled one." 

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Goddamnit this is incredibly awkward. 

"It's not really any of your business," Vanyel says tightly. 

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Leareth's eyes narrow slightly. 

"Indeed. However, I am curious." Another long pause. "And...surprised. Was there - a string of odd low-probability coincidences involved?"

There's an odd sort of emphasis in his voice on the 'coincidences' part. 

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"Huh?" 

Vanyel is so confused, and kind of scared; he can't figure out how Leareth is guessing all of that just from his face - or does he have way better spy-coverage of the Valdemaran camp than Vanyel had thought - it doesn't seem likely that he can actually read Vanyel with Thoughtsensing in the dream and has concealed this for a decade -

He's even more baffled as to why Leareth cares so much about whatever change he's apparently noticing, and in particular why it matters to him if there were 'coincidents' involved. 

Distraction, distraction, he needs a change of topic... Unfortunately, just about everything on his mind is Thellim-related and Leareth absolutely should not know about that. 

Is there anything he can think of that at least won't be an obviously bizarre non-sequitur from their previous conversations - 

 

 

"Leareth, I do have a question for you." 

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Another long, piercing look that makes Vanyel feel like his skin is transparent and Leareth is deducing way more than he has any right to - and not saying any of it which is even more unfair - but he nods. 

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"Er, if you had, hypothetically, thought of a method that might make it way faster and easier to copy books, if it worked, and...were considering whether to build it and try to sell them... Where would you start? If you wanted to, say, sell a thousand copies of a book, is there a government that'd pay for that, and - what book or books would you start with -?" 

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Apparently, this isn't quite as innocuous a question as Vanyel had been hoping, because Leareth blinks, his eyes widening slightly. 

"My advice," he says, slowly, as though picking out each word, "is that this project will likely be harder than you expect, and I am not sure I can in good faith recommend it. However. The Eastern Empire is among the wealthiest governments on the continent, and with the best-educated population. Trade with them is - complicated in some ways, but they would perhaps pay to have copies made of existing books." 

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"Oh. Er, thank you for your advice." 

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A flicker of a raised eyebrow. "I am rather curious what has you thinking of this. I thought you would be rather busy, in the middle of a war." 

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"Well, you know, we'd talked about education systems a bit before... So that's been on my mind. Less depressing than only thinking about killing people." 

Vanyel is pretty sure that this is an incredibly unconvincing answer, but it'll have to do. 

"We could talk about that more," he adds. "If you want." 

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"If you wish, Herald Vanyel." Leareth takes another step forward. Looks Vanyel over again, his expression unreadable, and then - at least, this is Vanyel's best interpretation of it - makes a decision to stop pressing for answers and let it slide. "I am not sure if I have told you of my treatise, A Lesson on Lessons..." 

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It's a really unusually stressful instance of the dream. Vanyel is incredibly distracted and now also very very self-conscious about whatever Leareth is noticing about him, he's trying to correct for it and act 'normal' but that's hard to judge when he doesn't know what aspect of it is noticeable in the first place...

But they have a neutral, even sort of friendly, conversation about Leareth's past thoughts on schooling - which of course he's researched and thought about and written up in depth - and then eventually the sky starts to come apart. 

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"Until we meet again, Herald Vanyel." 

 


A long way north, Leareth opens his eyes. He sits up, casts a mage-light, instinctively checks all the shields on the room - it's a well-practiced routine scan that takes him about five seconds - and then rubs his face for a moment before reaching for the notebook that lives next to his bed. 

It didn't seem wise to push the matter any harder, in the dream. He is, nonetheless, intensely curious about the change in Vanyel. 

It wasn't really his expression or body language - well, it was some of that, but Leareth wouldn't have found that nearly so obvious on its own.

It's the fact that, in every previous Foresight dream, Vanyel has appeared almost painfully thin, his Whites ragged, his hair unkempt. (By all accounts, this matches the real-world present.) Until now. The most recent dream showed him - healthy-looking, clean, warmly dressed... 

Leareth has no idea who is responsible for this change, big enough to echo through in Foresight an unknown number of years ahead. Or what it means. 

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Vanyel wakes up with a start, and manages to stomp on the desire to scream into his pillow - he didn't put a sound-barrier on his newly-assigned tent and someone might hear him. 

There are about ten different things he doesn't want to think about right now. Starting with the fact that he feels incredibly stupid for not having thought about the fact that he might get the dream tonight and maybe ought to prepare for it. It's always had a tendency to show up when he's just gotten new information, and this is the biggest revelation of his entire life - bigger than the Foresight dream itself, which he hadn't really imagined was possible... 

It's the middle of the night, and he definitely hasn't slept enough, but if he tries to sleep then he's just going to end up ruminating for candlemarks. He could wake Yfandes - but he doesn't really want her company right now, the thought feels suffocating, and besides she might want to talk about some of the things he's desperately avoiding. 

He rolls out of bed. His clothes and saddlebags still aren't here, and the Whites crumpled up on the stool are dirty, but he throws his cloak on over the robe and shoves his feet into boots. Maybe he can distract himself by walking around for a bit, and then be able to sleep. 

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The night is chilly and cloudy and dark, no stars or moon visible; the only light comes from torches held by sentries around the perimeter of the camp. Nobody stops Vanyel, though the nearest sentry nods to him. 

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Vanyel paces. 

 

 

...Strange, really, how for so many years Tylendel has been the unthinkable nightmare lurking in the back of his mind, the agony that he constantly tried to distract himself from, and now thinking about 'Lendel is - well, painful, but still one of the least stressful topics to ruminate on. He would much rather picture Tylendel's face, than fret about how bad it might be if Leareth learns about Thellim's presence and her origins, and worry that he's already given too much away. 

Maybe it's because what's done is done. Over. It's been over for a long time. There's something almost restful about staring into that grief, cupping it, remembering those golden summer days in a room with a glazed door... 

- remembering a blaze of blue white-fire on the other side of a faltering Gate - 

Vanyel flinches, expecting the usual unbearable void. And the pain is there for a moment, but bouncing him away rather than drawing him it. The emotion that fills in its place is - not quite anger, not quite disappointment, not quite regret, but a muddy tangle of all three and half a dozen other feelings he can't even name. 

They came so close to surviving together. Damn it, ashke, all you had to do was walk through the Gate. 

...Is that true, though? He remembers the Shadow-Lover speaking to him in a white place outside time. The dream. The whispers about his unnaturally strong Gifts, and what it means, when it's known that Heralds tend to be Chosen with Gifts that the Kingdom will need, in five years or ten or thirty. 

He's always been a pawn. Meaning that Tylendel was one as well - however brief and tragic his role on the gameboard - 

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Why. 

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- it's actually hard to stay caught up in that misery and loss for long, though, when the void isn't pulling at him, and is in fact gently knocking his thoughts back to their source, and at some point he can't help turning that cry of pain into an actual question. 

Why? 

He - could have had Gifts, even in the world where Tylendel lived; it would only have needed Mardic, or someone else, to take down the Gate wrong. And they could have been Heralds together– well, maybe, Vanyel actually isn't clear on the implications of a Herald losing their Companion. It's never come up before. Only the reverse, and Taver always Chooses again.

Presumably, some Power didn't want things to go that way. 

What would have been different, in that world...

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The starless sky has no answer for him. 

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He wonders, vaguely, if Leareth's sky, wherever he is, is equally clouded-over. And whether he, too, gets up and paces and thinks after their dreams.

And, still musing on the hypothetical where Tylendel survived, he finds himself imagining them sharing the dream together. 

What would Leareth think of Tylendel? 

...what would Tylendel think of Leareth

 

 

 

 

- he doesn't especially want to be finishing that line of thought, but his mind can't help it. He's pretty sure the dream would be way worse. Tylendel was perfect, golden, everything Vanyel had ever needed or wanted or dreamed of Tylendel was his lifebonded. Who did his best to be good to Vanyel, and made some understandable mistakes. Because he was seventeen years old, gods, they had both been so young... 

Tylendel always wanted so fervently to help people. To serve Valdemar - and to stand by his family, be loyal to his own people, Vanyel hasn't been able to really look at this in so long but now he can remember how conflicted his 'Lendel was. How black-and-white his thoughts and feelings were, on the matter of the Leshara family. 

Tylendel would hate Leareth for being a monster. Fair enough, on one level, but - he wouldn't be curious, and so he wouldn't even understand so much of what Vanyel thinks about now.

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A cloud drifts aside, showing a single bright patch of stars. 

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Everything hurts.

It's not even the pain of the broken lifebond, which he can now see wasn't ever really about Tylendel-the-person. This feels...realer, somehow, than that. 

 

 

 

 

It's incredibly stupid to feel betrayed by Tylendel for being, what, a normal seventeen-year-old? For his youthful idealism, for his loyalty to the people he loved, traits that were good until he landed in the worst possible situation...

Maybe he would have grown out of all that, if they'd had the chance to grow together. 

Vanyel won't ever know, now. 

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Given that the emotions he's having are clearly stupid, and Vanyel is fully aware of this fact and kind of embarrassed about it, it's impossible to feel betrayed and hurt and angry for long.

Vanyel's pacing footsteps bring him to his tent. He stands outside, looking up at the widening patch of stars. 

:I miss you, ashke: he Mindspeaks, to nothing and nowhere, to the emptiness where a bond - and so much more than that - used to be. 

:I forgive you: 

:I...felt like it would be betraying you, to move on. But you would want me to live:

:You would want me to be happy. If I can: 

:You're gone. I'm still here. I'll - do my best - I promise...: 

 

 

 

Somehow it doesn't feel final enough. He wants - is this what Lancir meant by 'closure'? It always seemed so meaningless to Vanyel as a concept. 

He's a decade too late to attend Tylendel's funeral. And his empty grave in Haven doesn't feel especially meaningful or real.

- he could go back. To the place where it happened. Which would have felt utterly impossible until now, and somehow that makes it feel especially appropriate. The right amount of significance, for finally, properly, saying goodbye. 

He wonders if the trees are growing back yet. He hopes they are. It - would have felt disrespectful to the magnitude of the horror, before, that the world kept moving, but it doesn't feel that way now. 

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Vanyel stands looking at the stars for a little while longer. To his own surprise, he isn't crying. 

He is, however, starting to yawn and sway on his feet. 

After a few minutes, he slips back into his tent, pulls off his boots, raises a hasty sound-barrier in case he has nightmares tonight, and then lies down again to sleep. 

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Thellim wakes up as the sky is just barely beginning to lighten.  Her body is accustomed to a world in which rooms stay dark when you're supposed to be asleep and only start to light when it's time to wake up; she doesn't particularly have any tolerance yet for staying asleep through small amounts of light.

She's rarely, but not never, had the experience before of working on a difficult problem and seeing the answer even as she's waking up in a muzzy state.

In this case, Thellim finally realizes which utterly-straight textbook-xeroxed standard-human-fallacy reasoning-error she committed while doing Manic Science to Vanyel.

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That query she tried directing through Melody's Mindhealing - the one about multiple representation inside all minimal sets of mutually recursive functions with execution pathways through the void at the center of Vanyel's mindscape.  It wasn't just badly formatted, it wasn't just a syntax error, it was badly thought up in the first place.

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But Vanyel is not in a coma so it seems like she... got away with it?  Somehow?

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...No.  Melody's Mindhealing Gift in the merge just interpreted what Thellim meant, what Thellim was trying to say, not what Thellim actually said.  It's not actually an IDE with an expression-based search module.  It was just following Thellim's intent the whole time.

 

Because if you ask "what neural pathways participate in lots of these loops here", what you would actually, literally get is, say, the main thread of cerebellar control of prefrontal cortical attention, or the brain's equivalent of the primary pathway for memory retrieval like a computer's main channel to RAM, or other things that Thellim doesn't have computer-science metaphors for and that maybe dath ilan doesn't know about at all.

She was so busy thinking about whether the result she wanted, would match the query she used, that she didn't think about what other results would match that query.

 

But, since Melody seemed to identify the search result as being primarily about the broken lifebond rather than lots and lots of other things in Vanyel's mind, even though nothing in Thellim's actual search term required that in any way, clearly Melody's Gift took its cues from the part where Thellim wanted to find a pathway highly specific to the broken lifebond, and not the part where she literally searched mostly for Vanyel's equivalent of his main RAM channel.

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Which also means that the Sight behaving like a neat literal IDE, the part where it started to drop all the search results out of vision, at the moment Melody's block meant those results no longer matched the search query - the part that happened right after Thellim realized it was coming - probably happened only because Thellim picked that exact moment to decide to expect the Gift to work like that.

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She's silly.

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It is particularly embarrassing that this happened to her after explicitly thinking about Science Maniac Verrez because this is exactly the sort of thing that happens to Verrez in every. single. book.

 

No.  Wait.  This literally actually does happen to Verrez.  That time Verrez has managed to get into an alien spacecraft, and Verrez tries to use a poorly phrased search query in the elaborate command language he thinks he's discovering, which should have teleported him into the largest black hole in the universe, but the spacecraft was actually just reading his intent the whole time so it takes him to the alien homeworld instead.  As Verrez only realizes afterwards, of course.

 

...Does the pseudonymous author of Science Maniac Verrez have a surprising amount of actual experience in trying to do Manic Science and shooting theirself in the foot during their early days, or is Thellim just that bad at this?

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She really hopes nobody else from dath ilan follows her here or she's just... never going to live this down.  Ever.

 

Well, time to get up and start her day, she guesses.

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The camp is quiet and peaceful; there's smoke rising from the cooking-tent, and tired-looking night sentries in huddles, maybe doing handoff to the day shift or something. 

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Down at the end of the aisle between the tents, in the slightly wider open space, Lissa is doing some sort of sparring-practice with a blunted sword. She is very fast and ferocious and looks like she's having fun. 

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Thellim watches this dance / morning-exercise in cheerful delight.  It's elegant and clearly purposeful, even if she has no idea what foreign sport the motions are meant to practice.  She'll wait for a pause rather than interrupt Lissa; it's nice to just watch something innocent and fun for a bit.

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After a while Lissa fails to dodge a blow and is knocked down flat in the mud by the man she’s sparring with, who crows in delight.

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He offers her a hand and she takes it and bounces to her feet, grinning and laughing as they shake hands. “Guess I’m very dead again!” There’s mud all down her side but she’s wearing very plain workout clothes and doesn’t seem bothered by this.

After a few seconds she spots Thellim and waves, jogging over. “Morning!”

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:Morning!  That looked like an interesting sport you were practicing, there's nothing like it where I come from and we have a lot of sports!  Is the sport two-player, or is it more complicated and you were just practicing one particular role?:

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:Huh? Er, I - guess the second? In a real battle you can’t count on just fighting the other side on one on: She snorts. :Of course, in a real battle I’d be hanging back with a Herald with Mindspeech personally guarding me and passing orders on. At my rank you don’t get to have ANY fun: 

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That was a grimmer 'sport' than she was expecting.  Somehow she was thinking that battles would be fought with magecraft, or some local equivalent of chemical explosives, not by literally hitting people with blunt objects until they fall over.  Lower GDP per capita strikes again.  Maybe it makes battles less deadly than they'd be with explosives.

...Moving on, then.

:What's the plan / schedule on getting me to Haven?  And unless there's a new Mindhealer in Haven, and maybe if there is, I should maybe talk Melody into coming with me - could dangle the prospect of trying our hand at other untreatable patients, though I'm a little nervous about that - but I haven't unlocked my own Gift yet and the things I can do with Melody seem important.  And is Vanyel - nevermind, previous questions first.:  Thellim has always been called 'talkative', and is still having trouble with the part where Mindspeech removes her important pause-reminder of 'needing to breathe'.

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:I sent word on the Mindspeech relay this morning asking for a Gate at noon, I should hear back soon if Savil's up for it. As far as I know there's not a Mindhealer in Haven right now but I'm not the one who does their deployments. Sounds like you should talk to Melody directly about it?: Lissa bounces a little on her heels. :Want to go grab some breakfast first, though? Oh, and Van's not up yet, as far as I know: 

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:Breakfast it is!:

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Lissa leads the way to the mess tent; her cheerful expression is already fading back into grim seriousness. She stops several times as various people call out to her, and barks what are presumably orders to them, in the local language.

The mess tent is serving pease porridge and tea. 

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:What is 'tea', actually?  I didn't ask last time because there were other things going on, but I was curious.  'Pease porridge' also, come to think, it looks like a random carb-fat-protein caloric soup but I don't actually know.:

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:Tea is, er, tea? It helps you wake up a little - some people notice it more, honestly it's never done much for me. Also it tastes good. And covers up when the water you're drinking tastes bad even once you've boiled it: She frowns. :Pease porridge is mostly split peas. If we're lucky they'll've cooked it with a ham-bone in the pot: 

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:Meaning no offense, but I'd rather deal with bad-tasting water than sample your world's version of mind-affecting drugs, at least until I get to Haven and have some spare time to check whatever assurance process 'tea' went through before being approved.:

Pease porridge sounds fine, at least.  She'll have some of that.

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It's actually unclear whether the mess tent currently offers any water which is both safe to drink and free of mind-altering substances! Beside the tea stop, soldiers are serving themselves from jugs of what seems to be mildly fermented, slightly fizzy apple juice. 

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(Lissa does not think to warn Thellim that the cider is also alcohol-containing; she doesn't think of it as very meaningfully different from water.) 

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Thellim takes a sip of the fizzy apple juice.  :Huh... slightly bitter taste like figs left past their expiration-date?  Is that deliberate?  What's in this, actually?:

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Lissa is mostly distracted answering a question from another of the kids in the paler-blue uniform. :Apples: she thinks back. 

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Expired apples, then?  Thellim supposes it's a better bet than 'tea'.  She has a cup of the stuff.

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The cider is not very alcoholic, maybe 2% or 3% - Lissa's been drinking it since she was old enough to leave the nursery - but, since Thellim, unlike Lissa and almost everyone else in Valdemar, has no previous exposure to alcohol, she's going to notice some mild effects. 

Mostly the world seems slightly brighter and warmer, and she's a little something-like-lightheaded though not in an inherently unpleasant way, and she's going to feel a bit more scattered and uninhibited than usual. 

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Thellim has a lot going on and is in a very strange new environment and teenagers are not introduced to drugs in this particular class in dath ilan, since it's not especially similar to any common syndromes.  She is also unlikely to suspect Surprise Drugs! as a source of any psychological oddness, since she is no longer a teenager and getting the Surprise Drugs! class of educational-pranks.

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Lissa doesn't notice anything out of the ordinary! She shovels pease porridge into herself (it turns out to be...very bland, not quite salted enough, but fairly edible), and then she gives Thellim an apologetic look and allows herself to be dragged out by another officer in a blue uniform. 

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Conveniently, though, Melody hurries in about thirty seconds later, making a beeline straight for the tea table. 

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Thellim feels a weird impulse to run over and hug Melody, but openness to that varies even in dath ilan so Thellim suppresses the impulse.  :Melody!: Thellim thinks, maybe 10% louder than she should have, and heads in that direction.  :I was just thinking last night - can I talk you into heading to Haven with me?  I suspect I'll be more effective with Vanyel and possibly other problems if I'm in the company of a Mindhealer I know I can work with.  Also, who knows how many other intractable cases in Haven we might be able to manage?  Though we've got to be more cautious about that, I worked out last night that I'd phrased my formal inquiry to your Gift in a very silly way, but your Gift seems to have followed what I meant instead of what I said so that all worked out fine.:

Thellim probably still has her cup of bitter expired apple juice, if Melody happens to notice that?

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Melody acknowledges her in wordless Mindspech, waits out the speech in a half-preoccupied way while she pours herself tea and heads over, and then does a sort of double-take just before she sits down. 

:Hmm. That's - certainly very rushed, assuming you mean heading to Haven with you whenever you leave, which as far as I know is today? Normally it'd be a flat no, but I confess I'd already been musing about it last night, and it's not actually the worst time for it - I reckon we can re-deploy Terrill out here within the week, and no one on my waiting list desperately needs a Mindhealer today. And I can sell it to Aber at Healers' on the grounds that working with you will actually add to our total capacity, in the long run...: 

A pause. She blinks owlishly at Thellim. :...How much of that cider have you had: 

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It takes Thellim a second to catch on to what Melody is implying.

Does this planet have anything to drink that is not a mind-affecting drug?  Because if not, that seems like it could explain some of their problems.

:About a cup-full and a half.  What was in it?:

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:Well, it's not very alcoholic, but it does tend to ferment while it's stored - thus the bubbles - and this batch tastes like it's from an old barrel, so could be equivalent to almost a whole cup of wine. Anyone from around here is used to it but I reckon you might not be: She tugs at her collar. :The well-water's not safe to drink unless it's boiled or sterilized with magic, but those options are available:

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:I'm... definitely going to need a supply of boiled or sterilized water, yes, even if it's moderately more expensive.  And I should hesitate to make important decisions in the meanwhile.  How long until this wears off?:

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:Depends on the person, but - a candlemark, maybe? And I think it's one of the things a Healer can check for, whether it's still in your blood: 

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A candlemark.  Okay.  She can avoid making any important decisions for a candlemark, unless this drug specifically makes it harder to hesitate before important decisions.

:I'm also guessing that - well, more deciding that - we should avoid merging to monitor Vanyel during his Gate while this drug is still active in me.  Oh, background on that thought.  I am feeling suspicious about the timing, of my arriving here next to Vanyel.  It still makes sense for Vanyel to avoid Gates and take the long way to Haven.  But we should also potentially monitor his reaction to this Gate, and see whether we can notice anything very quickly that looks like it might give Vanyel greater mobility.  It would be a case where we either don't tell him yet, or tell him not to try it without us except in extreme emergencies that are even more emergent than usual.  We maybe shouldn't even do it at all?  It's just - I have a nervous feeling about wondering why I landed here now instead of later or earlier.  Those were my thoughts this morning before the 'cider'.  Right now it seems 10% more like a wonderful good idea than previously.:

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Melody listens, nods along. 

:Hmm, so you're suspicious about the timing because - you suspect something or someone brought you here, or something Foresight-related?: A little shiver. :Guess I hate being forced to think about that sort of thing. Gods and Foresight always gave me the heebie-jeebies. But...sure, seems it'd make sense to watch Vanyel while the Gate's going up. Do you know anything about the logistics of that - when, where, who...?: 

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:Not I.:

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:Guess I'll ask Lissa, and hopefully it's in more than a candlemark: Sigh. :Though I should talk to– oh, there he is!: 

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Vanyel slips into the dining hall, wearing clean (though not-perfectly-fitting) Whites. His hair is also clean and combed, and the difference it makes is kind of shocking. 

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Something deep inside her relaxes somewhat, though not all the way.

:Hi, Vanyel!  I drank a cup and a half of mind-affecting 'cider' without realizing it, so my judgment is less trustworthy for the next 'candlemark' or so.  As a result, I'm not going to tell you how much better you look, in case that's just the 'cider' talking, get an opinion from somebody who isn't on drugs.:

She is obliged to tell Vanyel at some point about how badly she screwed up yesterday, but this is maybe not the right time.  Before the Gate, obviously, but not right this second.

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Vanyel smiles at her, a bit tiredly but otherwise genuine, and lifts a hand in a half-wave. :Gods, did Lissa not tell you? ...Guess she wouldn’t think to, she can drink most soldiers under the table so it’s hardly count for her: 

He heads over to join their table, apparently forgetting about the step of ‘breakfast’ that involves collecting food. 

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:You know, I don't actually get the part where my version of this altered state would be advantageous to a strategic commander, but maybe people's reactions are different.:

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:Oh - she doesn't actually drink when she's making strategic decisions or preparing for a battle. I...guess maybe she does it so she can take a break from all that? I bet fewer of her subordinates bother her in the evenings if she's clearly had a few and isn't in the mood for work: A shrug. :Also she says it helps her sleep. Which given how many nightmares have about what I've done out here, I can believe: 

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(tightbeam to Melody)  :I want to ask several questions that it wouldn't have been safe to ask last night, but Vanyel seems a lot better now.  Still - can you be the one to ask him if it's safe for fumbling amateurs like me to ask him questions?  Like, say, 'So what did we actually do to you.':

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:Of course:

And Melody turns back to Vanyel, smiling. :So. Check-in time. You've had some time to rest and get your mind settled - how are you? What differences have you been noticing from before?: 

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Vanyel instantly tenses up and stops smiling, instead looking very self-conscious and on-the-spot. 

- After a moment his eyes go slightly out of focus, the way a lot of Mindspeakers look when suddenly interrupted by a new Mindtouch, and then he seems to catch himself, twitching a shoulder and then relaxing. Slightly. 

:It's definitely better: he says finally. :It - still hurts, some, but it's...not as salient that it does, I guess? It's something I can be distracted from and forget about? Like how I could forget about a stubbed toe if I were focused on a fight: 

For a moment he looks like he's considering saying something else, but he doesn't, just stares into the distance. 

(He's remembering his middle-of-the-night pacing and thoughts. How for the first time, a decade later, he could finally grieve for Tylendel, for the person he was, not the golden-haloed outline of a lifebonded partner. But it feels too raw in his head, still, and thus very private; he doesn't especially want to try to explain it now.) 

Vanyel shrugs a little. :I did realize that my life is kind of full of other problems, and I've got plenty to ruminate about that isn't Tylendel: 

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Melody's eyes narrow when she notices Vanyel holding back, but she doesn't press. 

:Right. Thank you: Glance at Thellim. :How, er, emotionally steady are you feeling? Thellim would like to ask you a few things, but she's worried that she doesn't have my experience with patients and might poke you in sore spots. But that can wait, if you don't think you're feeling up for poking just yet: 

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Vanyel starts to answer, then stops himself, and pauses for a long time to mull it over. 

:...I think it's all right. 'Fandes agrees; she says she'll, er, intervene if it seems like I'm wrong: 

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:A lot of my questioning was going to be about - what exactly our intervention felt like from inside, if that makes sense, and if it shook anything else loose.  But I want to be clear that I'll understand if this information is not available or if it seems like something that can't be explained... or actually, could you try to transmit the sensations directly in Mindspeech?  I don't know if that's a thing.:

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:- I guess if concert Sight is possible that must be too:

But Vanyel stiffens again, curling into himself, vaguely reminiscent of a pill-bug starting to roll itself up into a protective ball.

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:Nevermind!  Immediately back off this thread of thought and think about something else.  Like -: not schedule because Gates what is on her list of Vanyel Issues that wouldn't reference the void :- what did you have for breakfast today and was it the amount of food that an outside person looking in on your life would have told you to eat?:

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:...Breakfast?: Vanyel looks blank for a moment, then smiles wryly. :I guess that’s probably what I came to the mess tent for, isn’t it. I, er, might be a bit  preoccupied:

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Vanyel sighs and gets up and collects himself tea and a plate of food. He doesn’t seem to be paying much attention to what food, exactly, but the quantity is reasonable.

He rejoins them at the table. :Er, right, you were asking what it, um, feels like?: He’s clearly self-conscious, but not nearly as tense as before.

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:You do not in fact need to answer that, Vanyel, not now.  There is probably not much that I could do with the knowledge, for all the pretenses here of Science.  I can see that you are able to not be dragged into cycles, to try to stop and think about something else; that is all that we were trying to do.:

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Vanyel nods, looking relieved. Then takes a deep breath, straightening his back. 

:I, er, did want to say something to both of you. I...did a bad job, yesterday, of - of being grateful. But you really deserve a lot more thanks than I gave you: 

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:I'd tell you to pay it forwards, but I get the impression that you have already paid rather a lot forwards and Backwards still owes you a thing or two.:

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Embarrassed chuckle. :I - guess you could say that. Anyway, I - oh, before I forget, I did want to tell you some things before you leave, do you know when that is? I, er, ‘Fandes informed me I’m not needed for the Gate:

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It's good, and a good sign, that there isn't going to be an argument about that.  :Not sure when.  Maybe Lissa knows?  And - if it's all right, and it won't be a strain on yourself or expose you to things you should stay away from - I was thinking that Thellimelody should take a look at what happens to you when a Gate is nearby.  Maximum distance that still produces the ouch, not minimum distance you can handle, modulo that Thellim and Melody will have to be in range to go through the Gate itself afterwards... how long can they stay open?:

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Vanyel if anything seems relieved by this question. :Right, of course, that’s a good idea to check. Savil can hold it five minutes if you need it, although, er, she won’t be happy about it. I...can feel a Gate from miles away, but if I’m a quarter-mile away and shielded then it shouldn’t mess me up too badly:

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:Can Thellimelody look inside you from that range, if we're standing near the Gate ready to go through?:  It's hopefully clear from the tone of this Mindspeech and the way Thellim looks around that either Vanyel or Melody is allowed to answer this.

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(Vanyel has no idea, and waits.)

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:I doubt it? Rather, I can probably hold a concert held with you from that range, my Mindspeech is up to that, but my Mindhealing Sight gets blurry if I’m any further than across the room: Her lips twitch. :I’ve hardly had much reason to Look at patients from blocks away, so I never practiced:

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:So it sounds like we could all be inside a shield, but that we'd still have to be near the Gate if we wanted to actually go through it.  How much risk or pain or damage does that expose you to, Vanyel?  My instinct is that you should not be doing things that poke your mind too much, right now; I imagine it as possibly still recovering.:

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Vanyel frowns for a moment, then brightens. :There should be a Work Room somewhere in town, for mages deployed here to practice and keep in form. It won’t be up to the standards of what we have in Haven, but if the Gate’s near there, I think I still wouldn’t feel it too much? It’d be like being two miles off: 

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:Sounds like a solution!  Except you should not take my word on that for the next candlemark because I am currently Surprise Drugged.  Ah, you said you had something to tell me before you forgot?:  If she was less Surprised Drugged, Thellim might have thought of that earlier, before she changed the subject instead of giving Vanyel a chance to talk.

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:It seems good to me too: Melody adds. :Though I ought to make sure it gets passed down the relay where we want the Gate— no, Vanyel, don’t worry about it, I’ll just track down the nearest Herald to Mindspeak:

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Vanyel nods, distantly. :Er, right, I’m trying to remember... Books, that was it. I - um, last night I - remembered, that the Eastern Empire is supposedly a lot richer than us and could afford to buy thousands of books, though they’re far away and, um, might be complicated to trade with:

(He really hopes Thellim didn’t notice his awkward pauses when the topic felt uncomfortably close to ‘everything about Leareth.’ There’s no possible way she can guess what he’s hiding, though, right - it’s too bizarre, an immortal destined enemy and a shared dream in a frozen pass with an army marching on his country...)

:Oh, right, and I was wondering - Randi was talking about wanting to set up more schools in Valdemar, it was hard for the Guard to recruit officers when so many commonfolk aren’t literate. And, er, your world has schools - I’m curious what sorts of books you had, and - if you remember them well enough to write your own version for Valdemar to use...?:

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:Oh, right!  I should totally write a book of all the absolute ridiculously fundamental basics of how to think and do science and engineering and build a real economy!  I know so much more on the margins that I should hardly have to work at all to make it better than anything that already exists!  I'm starting to get the impression that there may not necessarily exist a huge existing market for the material, but we don't have to stake the whole plan on that, we find a book they do already want to buy, print a thousand copies of that, and then print a thousand copies of my book and hand them out all over the world!  Maybe people here do just need to know what a multiagent-optimal outcome is and then they can just go do that.  And they'll pay more attention if I also describe printing, steelmaking, sanitation, electricity, refrigeration, agriculture, and combustion engines in the same book!:

Thellim is currently operating on 10% more enthusiasm and 20% less impulse control, or she might have considered for longer whether this was, in fact, a good idea; and whether it would maybe have a large number of consequences.  She would, perhaps, have arrived at the same conclusion in the end; but she would not have made the decision that quickly.

Especially if she'd remembered that she was on drugs at the time.

Of such moments is history made.

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Elsewhere, a long way off: 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A woman in brown robes, riding in the rearguard behind a merchant caravan on a dusty road in Ruvan, suddenly lets go of her reins as she slumps in the saddle, eyes rolling back. Her horse, a Shin'a'in-bred mare with the expected intelligence, immediately stops moving. The caravan pulls ahead, oblivious.

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A sword hangs at the woman's belt. 

Somewhere, a dusty mental voice groans. :By the Twain, what is it this time: 

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And a thousand miles north: 

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The priest is already on his knees in prayer, which is convenient and means he doesn't have nearly as far to fall.

 

 

 

 

Less than a candlemark later, the gryphon leadership of Iftel is summoned to an emergency meeting. 

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At about the same latitude, but far, far to the west, a man who seconds ago was deep in trance, focused on mage-work, is startled to full awareness, suddenly slumps to the floor. 

- then scrambles up, seconds later, his eyes wide and unfocused and terrified. 

"I - I - I have to, I saw - Vanyel..." 

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Thellim maintains a tight focus on the subject, in the quiet of the Work Room.  Going by the semistandardized candle that passes for timekeeping here, it's almost noon, almost time for the Gate to open.

Once it does, they will have a very short amount of time in which to work.

That being the case, the key to doing this as slightly less Manic Science, despite the ridiculous time bound, has been preparation.

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Vanyel is busy trying very hard not to be distracted by how ridiculous and self-conscious about it he feels. 

Earlier, well before the Gate-time, he practiced tapping a node, drawing anything from a trickle to a rush of energy into his reserves. Which are now full to bursting, and he's feeding a delicate stream into the mage-light hovering just above their heads. 

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Melody is focused just as intently as Thellim, her curiosity and anticipation - and faint worry that they're trying something completely unreasonable - set aside for the moment. 

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Continue monitoring.  Continue accumulating data.  Establish the bounds of ordinary variation during the monitoring period.

Thellim has already verified, earlier, that the kind of instruction she is trying to give to Melody's Mindhealing Gift, appears to actually work on simpler and more understandable problems.

Thellim is going to need a rest when this is over.  The price of having a somewhat more clever plan, with more preparation work, is that the plan required her to work earlier.  She's going to run through the Gate and then sit down and possibly have her first-ever reaction-headache, which she cannot afford to have right now because coming up very soon is the important part.

They are doing slightly less Manic Science this time.  It is still very Maniacal.

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Several hundred miles away, Herald-Mage Savil Ashkevron sighs, and rolls her shoulders a little to loosen them, and then raises her hands, and starts laying down the threshold for a Gate on the big bronze doors of the Heralds' temple to Kernos. 

She's not delighted about having to do this - or about being given such specific instructions for where - but she does adequately remember the doors of the repurposed-stable now turned into the quartermaster's supply-rooms and also containing a hastily-built Work Room. 

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Even through all the shields, plus his own personal shielding, Vanyel feels it the instant the Gate comes up on the Horn side. The pain isn't agonizing but it's notably there, and he jumps a little, grimacing despite himself

:Now!: he alerts Thellimelody, like they discussed, though his visible reaction is probably enough warning already. 

He's tempted to tell them to hurry, he can imagine all too clearly Savil's distress and exhaustion if they make her wait, but it's not like he hasn't said that already, and if he says it again Melody will just tell him off– well, no, she'll gently remind him that Savil would probably agree it was worth it, which is true and yet doesn't make it any less guilt-inducing - 

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Neurons are very slow by comparison to electronics.  They are still much faster than people.

But Thellim has been maintaining the Gift's advance instructions.

The first parts of Vanyel's tapestry to change, to go significantly out of bounds compared to past variation, are highlighted in Thellim's attention.  Thellim's focus goes into trying to maintain them in view, maintaining the current result of the instruction she tried to give Melody's Gift.  (The Gift will not simply obey an instruction to freeze its results without ongoing concentration; they tried that earlier and it didn't work.)

Thellim doesn't call out to Melody to follow the next step of the plan.  Melody should already be acting.  This has been rehearsed.

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Melody is already rapidly scanning through everything that's bright-and-salient to her Sight, according to Thellim's specifications. Not that one - it's startle-response-related but not actually leading to the mage-control area of his tapestry - not that one either - oh, maybe this - 

She tries to highlight it back to Thellim, zooming in on it in their shared awareness - that looks like surprise or alarm, there, though it's not the emotion Vanyel would describe internally as that, it's too fast - it could be the precursor to Vanyel subjectively feeling startled, but the earliest step of it, to Melody, looks a lot more like the low-level, near-instant pattern that flashes through a person's tapestry if they, say, catch their foot under the edge of a rug that they didn't notice was curling up. 

(It is possible that the rug in Melody's patient room has a tendency to misbehave in damp weather, and that she has observed this exact thing happen a couple of times.) 

It doesn't just feed forward to Vanyel's emotions, though - something flashes across to the part of Vanyel's mind that controls his mage-channels. Melody can't see exactly what's going on there, of course, since she doesn't have mage-sight, but...it actually also looks a lot like the involuntary, instinctive clenching-and-stabilizing signal that people's minds send to their literal muscles if they're recovering from almost tripping on her stupid rug. Except metaphorically, with mage-channels. 

- and then a pain-response echoes back, within a fraction of a second, and it propagates to all sorts of places, but the one Melody pulls to the forefront of their awareness is where it loops back and triggers the exact same surprise-tripping error pattern - and then strengthens the signal going to Vanyel's mage-channels...

It's not entirely cascading out of control, since Vanyel's deliberate effort-of-will as he keeps the mage-light active is also linking to the mage-area, but the light is in fact oscillating a bit as he struggles to maintain the smooth control that was previously effortless. 

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A wordless nod across the link.  This is taking all of Thellim's focus, plus 10%.

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Melody would never in a thousand years have thought to Look in this precise way, but now that her focus is on it, she's practiced enough with Mindhealing to hold onto that without too much struggle.

:Huh. It's a loop again. ...Figure it's worth blocking it to see what happens?: 

With her Sight already on precisely the right area, she can do a temporary block in about ten seconds. She has no idea what the secondary consequences will be, given that the bit they're focused on doesn't exist in isolation and in fact links to all sorts of things, but if necessary she can reverse the change almost as quickly. 

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Wordless more complicated dath ilani gesture of assent that will also come across as a nod.

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:Testing something: Melody warns Vanyel, and then slaps down a very carefully targeted block. She feels a brief burst of satisfaction - she's never tried a block this precise before, but she thinks she got it spot-on. 

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Vanyel yelps, nearly falling off his stool, and the mage-light vanishes, leaving the room dimly-lit by a couple of backup candles in wall sconces. 

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:- What's wrong?: 

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Vanyel takes a shuddering breath and rights himself on the stool, then lifts a hand and - looks blankly at it. 

:...I can't - I can't do magic?: he says helplessly. :Or - um, I maybe could but it's...like half my hand is numb? Except it's my mage-gift? Er, it doesn't hurt now but it did hurt a lot when you did it: Also he's pretty sure he lost a bunch of his reserves somehow, though it's hard to tell because, again, checking that involves his Gift and his mage-gift is not, currently, working very well. 

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:Sorry! Fixing it: 

Melody rapidly undoes the block, at which point the snipped loop quickly snaps back into place, and Vanyel winces again but starts shakily re-casting his little mage-light. 

:- Thellim, do you have any idea what just...?: 

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:hypothesis: feedback-channel causally-implicated in general magical dexterity:

:suggest: continue-iteration through previous-results for other-solution-candidates; do-not-try complicated-time-consuming repair-of-failed-solution:

:time-constrained:

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Vanyel has his mage-light up and steady again, but he's also even more tensed-up and uncomfortable-looking than before. 

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Right. Refocus. She broadens her Sight again, a little, starts scanning through the initial 'highlights' that Thellim's query turned up. 

:...Huh, no, I don't think this one is 'pain' per se: Zoom toward it for Thellim's benefit. :It goes into the same flinch pattern, I think? But it's not itself part of a loop. It's not fear or alarm either, not in the normal sense - it reminds me more of the basic startle response, but with a different flavour somehow - I think it might be 'expecting-pain', before there's actual pain? What do you think?:

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:Gate:

:time-constrained:

:just-try-it:

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:Trying something else: she warns Vanyel, and blocks it. 

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In the first second or two, Vanyel doesn't really notice anything, to the point that he's not sure if Melody actually did it. 

...But, no, something is different. It's vaguely reminiscent of - hmm - of the way it felt at one of the awful crowded Court parties, when he finally managed to worm his way to a wall and find a nook where he could plant himself and watch, able to see anyone coming before they reached him, and it was never enough that he could entirely relax but it helped, and often gave him just enough breathing room that he could calm himself down over a few minutes. Finishing his camp-wards on the Border used to have the same feeling; it didn't mean he could entirely let down his guard, but it meant not having to be quite so vigilant, and then he could start winding down to sleep... 

:It did something: he thinks to tell Melody. :I think it helps: 

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Melody can tell! She's stepped back her Sight-view a little, to get a broader sense, and - it didn't break the loop, didn't even immediately tamp it down, but it's starting to look like the pain-anticipation was one of the factors that was continually amplifying Vanyel's Gate response, and now that it isn't, some of the intensity of the clamping-down signal is fading, and the corresponding pain-signal returning from his invisible mage-channels is weakening. 

:...Seems like an improvement: she agrees. :Thellim?: 

Melody is very aware that it's been a minute, maybe longer, and Herald-Mage Savil is waiting on them with her Gate and will be more irritated each minute that they delay. She isn't rushing. As she learned a long time ago - and heard over and over and over from the other Healers, who were her mentors as much as anyone was despite not sharing her Gift - rushing is tempting, when you want to be as fast as possible, and it doesn't work. It predictably causes mistakes and sloppiness and having to redo your work. And, she reminds herself, Savil can and will hold the Gate for five minutes, and Melody can cope with a Herald-Mage being snappish at her if this is what Vanyel needs. 

So. Melody is definitely not in a desperate hurry. She's just trying to be efficient. 

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:quickly scan remaining-candidates for better-alternatives:

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She backs up and tries that. 

:- maybe this? Fear-anxiety pattern feeding back into the loop, I think, but...pretty sure it's a smaller factor and not sure we have time to conditional block both. Don't see anything else promising: 

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Thellim lets go of her other results, starts staring at the primary candidate more closely, trying some queries she already came up with.  In parallel to that -

:Proceed with modification.:

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:Vanyel, sorry, I need to undo the first block: 

It's in her way right now. She unravels it back to normal, then starts on something significantly more complicated. 

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Ow. 

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It takes Melody closer to an entire minute, this time, and her full concentration.

:Now: she tells Vanyel. 

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Vanyel pinches his elbow. 

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Melody had, apparently, never tried anything like this before today, when Thellim suggested it.

But she's practiced it five times in the last candlemark.

Melody even built the elbow-pinch connection in advance, and left the end ready to be connected, to save time; which Thellim herself hadn't thought of.

It is slightly less Manic Science.

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Melody sits back for a moment, plays her Sight over their work. 

:- Well, it's behaving like we expected. How does it feel?: 

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Vanyel frowns thoughtfully. Lets go of his elbow, pinches it again, repeats this. 

:It's - better? I think? When I'm pinching my elbow, otherwise it goes back to how it was before: 

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:Good! That's what we wanted: Melody plays her Sight over their work one final time, making sure it's solid enough to stay put for a while without maintenance. :Sorry, that's all we've got time for - brace yourself -: 

She levers herself up from the stool, flings open the Work Room door, and bolts out, grabbing her travel-pack from just outside. 

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Vanyel does brace himself, and expects it to hurt a lot. It...does hurt? But not nearly as much as he expected. It's like being a half-mile from a Gate, behind shields, and not right next to one. 

He still doesn't risk un-pinching his elbow until the Work Room door falls shut behind them. 

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Thellim stride-runs after Melody.  She doesn't yell anything back at Vanyel about how much this is an utterly untested method that he should only try in major emergencies, especially if Thellimelody is not there; that predictably necessary conversation has been predicted and held earlier.

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There's a Gate!

That is, the big doorway that used to be the main barn doors - before various side doors were added including for the Work Room separate entrance - is now limned by a glowing blue-white archway, which seems to give off, not just light, but also a sense of raw humming energy, mostly in a form that Thellim can't feel or detect in any way, but...there's a very slight sense of it, like a buzzing in her teeth but not quite that either... 

The other side of the doorway no longer shows the beaten-mud path outside; instead, there's a paved path, running through a (slightly) greener and less trampled field, half-brown with autumn frosts and soaked from the rain currently falling. 

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And a silver-haired woman dressed in white, who might be a well-preserved sixty or sixty-five years old, standing in the rain with her arms crossed and glowering at the Gate. 

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Thellim runs through and - she imagined sitting down and collapsing at this point.  It was very satisfying to imagine sitting down and collapsing at this point.

It's raining.  And the ground is wet.

She guesses she's remaining standing and getting rained on, then?  Thellim supposes she can work with that.

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Savil glances between the two of them, eyes narrowed. "Took your time, didn't you," she says (incomprehensibly to Thellim), and then moves her hands in a complicated gesture. 

The glowing Gate starts unweaving itself, strands of energy peeling off and disappearing into...somewhere...and by the time it's done, the silver-haired woman is looking a little bit perkier. 

"Well, what are you standing around for? Follow me!" Fortunately, she accompanies this with a more-universally-understandable beckoning gesture. 

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Melody glances back wearily to make sure Thellim understood the instruction, then swipes a lock of hair out of her eyes and strides after Savil. 

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Walk walk walk, Thellim walks walkingly.

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There are some long stone buildings! They look somewhat less dilapidated and low-tech than the houses in Horn! But not by all that much! 

There are also gardens, but it's headed into winter and the gardens are currently very sad. There's a stone bench by a fountain currently clogged with dead leaves from the oak tree nearby. The few people outside are hurrying around with the hoods of their cloaks up, and ignore Thellim and Melody aside from a few sideways glances. 

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Not a lot of metal in sight.  Thellim hopes she can remember enough Tech Uplift stories to improve on that.  Anything she remembers from a story should work in real life; it has been agreed among the very smart and Very Serious people that if authors are going to be publishing Tech Uplift novels anyways, they might as well take that opportunity to render Civilization slightly more able to rebuild itself in the event of unforeseen total collapses.

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Savil swings open a heavy wooden door, ushers them inside, shuts it behind them. The stone hallway is poorly lit, by small high windows and a few candles, which are clearly being used somewhat sparingly. 

Savil doesn't cast a mage-light. She does slump slightly against the wall, which has a rather old and faded tapestry hanging on it. 

"So. Vanyel?" 

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Melody has a HEADACHE and is rubbing her forehead and wincing. 

:Thellim doesn't speak the language: she informs Savil. (Ouch. Mindspeech is ouchy.) :You'll have to Mindspeak her: 

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Savil rolls her eyes slightly. 

:Well?: she sends at Thellim. :How's my nephew: 

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:Somewhat more optimized?  Sorry, headache.  He's better.  Not totally healed.  Just improved.  Details later.  It was NOT EASY and Melody and I need to rest.  And not Mindspeak much.:

:...and we should eat too, shouldn't we.  Ugh.:  She hasn't even been doing mage-work, but she understands a little better how Vanyel feels.  Tired people with headaches should not be forced to eat too, it's unfair.

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:- Then I suppose the full debrief can wait: Savil seems relieved about this too; going by her pinched expression, she may be suffering a post-Gate headache of her own. :I'll get you settled in some guest rooms and send food over, sound good?: 

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Thellim attempts to smile, rather than remember Velgarth's equivalent of the affirmative gesture.  Hopefully that communicates the same idea without Mindspeech.

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Savil smiles back in a very rote way. She seems content not to bother with any conversation as she leads them down the hall, calling out loud to grab the attention of a young woman wearing blue but clearly non-military servants' livery. 

Two available rooms are found down a side hall, and unlocked for them. Savil gestures Thellim toward hers rather than Mindspeak her. 

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The room is narrow and not that warm inside, though there's an unlit-but-ready fireplace in the corner. Also a bed, small and narrow by dath ilan standards, and a writing desk with a few sheets of paper and an inkwell and pen on it, and a wardrobe in the corner, and some unlit candles in wall sconces and on a little side-table by the bed. There's a somewhat bigger window, offering dull grey light. 

Everything is clean and looks well-made - at least, within the reference class of clearly handmade furniture and other items - and also very old. 

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Thellim is damp enough to care about the cold.  :Fireplace ignition methodology for amateurs?: she Mindspeaks, pointing at the fireplace.

(It's a shorter sentence in Baseline.)

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:Er, flint-and-steel is...probably in the drawer, but it's fiddly to use - here, this is simpler:

Savil lifts her hand, concentrates, and the kindling - helpfully propped in a little triangular pile underneath the bigger logs, for better air access - bursts into flame. 

:Candles too?: 

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Thellim is puzzled.  She would not have thought that required magic?  Still, she should maybe verify that the obvious procedure is safe and successful, while Savil is still here to stop her if she's about to make a mistake.

Thellim attempts to carry out the following operation: pick up one of the candles from a wall sconce, light the wick in the fireplace, blow out the wick, and replace the candle in the sconce.  Does this prove impossible, or does Savil stop her at any point?

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Savil does not try to stop her! She looks a bit relieved, even pleased, though she does lean in a little bit to make sure Thellim doesn't burn herself when reaching close to the fire. 

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Melody is leaning against the doorframe; her lips twitch in amusement. :Bet she's relieved you're not an obnoxious foreign dignitary who wants everything done for you: 

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That would probably be funnier if Thellim had less of a headache, or if her cultural priors could parse Melody's concept on the first try.  Thellim has a concept of comedic people like that, but they would never be dignitaries, and foreign dignitary doesn't really parse relative to dath ilan's setup.

She'd like to sit down on the bed, but she is somewhat damp, and removing her clothes first would be nicer.  This is not typically done with others present.  Thellim tries for a gesture goodbye and another smile?

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:I'll call for a meal for you: Savil says, and ducks out with Melody, shutting the door behind her. 

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Thellim takes off the damp outer layers (she wasn't in the rain that long) and attempts to operate this primitive, low-tech bed.  After a few tries she thinks she has it about as right as it's going to get, and closes her eyes.  Probably can't sleep with this headache, food on the way, not really physically sleepy in the relevant sense; but closing her eyes is nice anyways.

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The rain drums on the roof and window in a vaguely soothing way, as the room slowly heats up. 

About thirty minutes later by dath ilan reckoning, there's a knock on the door, and a voice saying something in the local language. 

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Wow she was not expecting to be that startled, maybe she did doze off slightly.

Thellim staggers up to obtain food.  She is not overwhelmingly dressed.  But obviously all people in professions that come to doors are already married to unusually attractive individuals or aroace in the relevant sense or whatever, and not concerned about habituating exposure to underclothed people.  No sensible person or preference-aggregating mechanism would order a society such that people had to get dressed just to answer their door.

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The young palace maid bringing food carefully avoids doing a double-take; lots of the guests who stay in this wing are strange or do things her mother would say were rude, because of being foreign, and it's impolite to let on when you notice it. 

She curtsies in a carefully-practiced way optimized for not being irritating when one's hands are full, and offers Thellim a covered tray of food. "I hope you enjoy, ma'am." 

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Thellim takes the tray to the desk, signs her thanks with expansive gestures that hopefully cross the cultural gap, and says "Thank you!" in Baseline in a cheerful tone that hopefully does the same.

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The young woman smiles back at her, bobs her head, then ducks back to retrieve a covered jug which she had to set down in order to open the door. Rather than barge in, which feels unwelcome with this guest, she moves it just inside and then shuts the door again. 

 

The tray, when opened, proves to hold a plate with cooked fish and greens and a sort of cream-with-herbs-in sauce poured overtop, and smaller plate with still-warm soft bread and a pat of butter. There are utensils - a spoon, a not-very-sharp knife, and a mildly weird two-tined fork. 

The covered jug contains the usual wine-mixed-with-water. There's a clean cup to use on the desk, but no sign of plain water. 

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Thellim jams her hips in frustration after she tastes the liquid.  She'll take a small swallow to wet her throat, eat this food which continues to beat hard cheese and dried meat, and then another small swallow to clear her throat after.  She can locate properly boiled water later.

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Nobody else bothers her. The room is pleasantly toasty by now, and the rain is even slowing outside, the grey-fogged sky brightening and eventually letting through a few weak sunbeams. 

Within a few hours, Thellim's headache is significantly better; not gone, but enough in-the-background that it doesn't interfere as much with thinking or moving. 

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And about four Valdemaran candlemarks after their arrival - by which point it's not dark yet but the sky looks like it's starting to think about it - Melody Mindspeaks her. 

:How're you feeling? Savil wants to know if we're up for meeting with King Randale and the other senior Heralds now:

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Thellim has been trying to remember printing-press-invention tropes.  It's appeared in multiple Tech Uplift stories, with helpful illustrations, but you need inks and metals with particular properties to do it right.  Some stories did cover making those too, but she's worried about finding acceptable plants and minerals and identifying acceptable metals.  And is she supposed to be inventing better paper first?  Thellim thinks she knows more about metallurgy than this, because Steel is such a classic Tech Uplift trope, but the higher tech tiers for steel aren't easy if a society already has the lower ones.

:Better!  And probably up for it!: Thellim sends back after Melody's touch.  :Mindspeech still hurts a little but nothing I can't push through, so long as pushing through isn't making things much worse.:

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:Hmm - I've got the standard useless advice that some kinds of 'pushing through' are fine and some are bad, I don't know how to describe the difference except it's like exercising when you're sore. Personally I'm feeling still not-my-best but definitely up for a Mindspeech back and forth as long as I avoid anything long-range and any intense Mindhealing: 

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:I feel more 'sore from exercising yesterday' than 'sore from exhausting myself fifteen minutes ago', if that makes sense.:  Thellim tries to push across the feeling of the way her Mindspeech currently aches.

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:- Good, good, I think a close-range Mindspeech conversation won't strain you, but do pay attention to whether you're getting exhausted again. How long do you need to get ready?: 

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Thellim puts her dried clothes back on.  :Ready -:

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:No, reverse that.  How do I find the local equivalent of a washroom?:  Thellim had a brief experience with 'privies' in Horn, and hopes the Haven facilities are... a little higher-tech.

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:- Oh, right, good thought. Should be a chamber pot under the bed, and the shared privies are - hmm, I stayed here five years ago, seems possible they've renovated, but last I remembered they were down at the end of the hall and left. Bathhouse is right: Melody shares a brief mental sense-of-direction along with the words. :And should I tell Savil ten minutes, or longer?: 

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She will avoid the chamber pot under the bed because what who would do that.  Down at the end of the hall, and left, it shall be.

:Ten minutes sounds fine.:

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A man in Heralds' Whites shows up in Savil's place to collect them; he's a Mindspeaker as well, and introduces himself as Seneschal's Herald Jaysen, and then leads them back outside into the blue-grey twilight, down some paths past more sad rain-drowned garden beds, and to another, somehow even older-looking stone building. 

They reach a meeting-room, with a long rectangular table and an assortment of people sitting around it. Herald Jaysen pulls out chairs for both Thellim and Melody, and offers to pour them drinks from a jug of - guess what - yep, more wine. 

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very young-looking man, also in Whites, with light brown hair in a ponytail, rises from his seat and smiles at both of them. "I'm King Randale. Pleasure to meet you." 

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(Melody quickly offers Thellim a Mindspeech translation.) 

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(All right, she has to actually remember to ask for boiled water at some point before she falls over, maybe at the end of the meeting, but this is not the time.)

Thellim smiles back at this - Mayor? Tribune but of a much tinier population? - either way it's impressive he's exalted that far up the career path at this young of an age.  She broadcasts to everyone present in the room, and only they.  :Thellim of dath ilan.  I hope that I may be of help.:

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The man nods, and smiles, and sits. He glances at Herald Jaysen. 

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:Oh, right. Introductions. This is Tantras, the King's Own Herald -: 

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Tantras is also young, but less shockingly so, maybe in his early thirties; he's quite handsome, with his dark hair pulled back with a clip, and he's clearly very fit. He nods to her, smiling; his eyes are curious. 

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Herald Jaysen, apparently, does not smile approximately ever. :And Keiran, the Lord Marshal's Herald: 

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Herald Keiran nods as well, hands folded in front of her; she's staring intently at Thellim as though she's some sort of important and fascinating newly-discovered species of beetle. 

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:And this is Healer Shavri. King Randale's lifebonded: 

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Shavri is just as startlingly young, maybe twenty-one or twenty-two. She's wearing green robes, and nods to Thellim without quite looking at her; going off her body language, she doesn't especially want to be here but is resigned to it. 

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King Randale takes a deep breath, and Mindtouches her. :I'm afraid this is everyone - most of our Heralds are down south right now. And I'm not much of a Mindspeaker, so Savil or Jaysen will be doing a lot of this. But - welcome to Haven, we're honoured to have you as our guest. And I'm very, very curious to hear more about, er, where you came from. Vanyel didn't exactly send us a detailed report: 

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:I am from a place that is not like this place.  It may be faster to show than to tell, if I can...:

Thellim closes her eyes.  The Mindspeech merge with Melody was intricate work, and also practice.  She can probably do this lesser-seeming thing, send over some fragments of memory?  They won't exactly be color photographs, but they'll have some feelings mixed in with them, and that should count for something too...

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::the central City's downtown district, seen from the window of a skyscraper::

::the same skyscraper, seen from ground level as it rises to far far above::

::one hundred thousand music fans attending a single professional-music concert, all listening in careful silence::

::the ordinary peaceful town where her mother lives, houses set amid greenery::

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:I am not from anywhere near here,: Thellim sends to everyone present.

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::people crowding around television sets, watching the screens::

::on the screen, something metallic rises on a pillar of fire::

::it soars through the sky::

::the ground diminishes beneath it, becomes a curve with blackness above it::

::those on board turn and look, and see::

::a sphere of blue and white::

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:This is the planet I am from.  The Civilization that lives there calls it dath ilan.:

:It is not the same as this planet.:

:I doubt that the two planets share the same spatial-metric at all.  There is no distance and no direction to get there from here.:

:I do not know how I came here, only...:

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::Thellim's last airplane, seen from outside, before she boarded it::

::the airplane rising from the ground, the ground diminishing below::

::a flash of the worried passengers sitting in horrified silence::

::spinning and tearing metal, pain and death::

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:I died, and found myself here.:

:I do not know how or why.:

:But it is suspicious that I found myself in the immediate vicinity of Vanyel.:

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::a medical patient sitting in an fMRI scanner::

::diagrams of the brain, within their head::

::the brain scans light and flicker::

::equations in a textbook, seen by a younger Thellim::

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:Our people have knowledge that is not known here.:

:Knowledge of minds, and brains, and much else as well.:

:Though I only possess the smallest fragments of that knowledge, I was able to join with Melody and partially heal Vanyel using my knowledge and her Gift.:

:This is, in all likelihood, only the beginning of some much greater story.:

:What that story may be, I do not know, nor who or what may have had a hand in writing it.:

:But I have been told that children will starve this winter in Valdemar, if something is not done.  So whatever may come later, that story will begin here.:

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The assembled Heralds listen in quietly amazed silence. 

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Herald-Mage Savil looks over at Jaysen; they share an inscrutable look that hints at decades of shared history and context and a rapid yet contentful Mindspeech exchange. 

Then she looks over at King Randale, who offers her a slight nod. 

:Well. That's...something: A brief flicker of a smile. :Van must have asked you so many questions. ...Or he would have, if he weren't exhausted after all this time on the Border: Her eyes narrow. :You - really think you can do something?: 

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:There are many things I can try.  Books.  More advanced metallurgy.  Mechanical looms.  I will try them one after another and in parallel, until something works, or until it is too late for the children.  I am only an ordinary person of my world and I do not possess the experience, the will, the discipline and technique to swear that I will force a single outcome within reality.  I can offer only the effort.:

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It's the Healer's turn to stare at her; she's wearing an odd, intense expression that holds weariness and hope and...something like recognition? 

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No one speaks for a long time. 

Eventually, Keiran takes a deep breath. She frowns, and then - says something out loud, to Melody. 

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:Keiran's not strong enough at Mindspeech to talk to anyone but her Companion, but she says either I can relay or you're welcome to just try to read her surface thoughts and she'll try to think loudly at you, she's done that with Mindspeakers before: 

A pause. 

:Also, just now she said 'have you noticed we're at war and maybe your project would be easier if you help us win that first'.:

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:I would need to be much more certain of the situation here and of myself before I began upgrading this faction's weaponry in order to enable it to win a negative-sum conflict.  Creating more books and selling them for the food your children need; this seems a clear and unmixed good.  Nor have I balked from healing your most powerful weapon when he was in pain.  But to shift to crafting weapons of greater lethality - is a step too far, for me, for now, unless I understand this situation better than I have.  Innovations are known to spread, as well.  If I died of a heart attack at some unforeseeable future moment, I would not wish to have left this planet in worse condition for dath ilan having touched upon it.:

:(I'll try listening to surface thoughts when somebody speaks, and let you know if that doesn't work.):

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Keiran looks frustrated about this, and shares a glance with Tantras, who's frowning as well.

She isn't currently loudly-thinking a particular reply; her surface mind is mostly a tangle of half-verbal thoughts. The clearest and most words-y snippet is that she feels like Thellim is very naive and idealistic and Randi is going to lap this right up damn it. 

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Savil, though, seems relieved and pleased, though she winces at 'your most powerful weapon'. 

:Don't let Vanyel catch you calling him that: she says darkly, once Thellim finishes. :It'd ruin his whole day. He hates that the thing we need him for most, right now, is setting lots of people on fire: 

 

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Randi flinches slightly at that; there's a hint of shame in the way he holds his shoulders. 

He takes a deep breath. :I understand. And - it says good things about you, honestly. I think we ought to trust your motives less if you were willing to jump straight to making us weapons: He frowns. :Though it does make our trade situation more complicated. I'm not sure either Rethwellan or Hardorn have the spare gold to buy books from us, right now: 

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Thellim isn't trying to read people's minds when they're not speaking, so she's not picking up any extras of their surface thoughts.  Who'd just do that without explicit permission?

She's also slightly confused by the implication that Vanyel would take offense to true statements that are common knowledge - Vanyel hardly seemed that undignified - but she's probably missing some connotation or implication of what she said that is much less true-and-known.  Maybe there was a translation failure, and it sounded like she was calling Vanyel a metal stick for beating people until they fall over.

:Vanyel tentatively suggested that the 'Eastern Empire' might do it, though he didn't know yet which books they'd be looking for.  But surely Haven has some market research specialists specialized in international trade demands?  We need not deduce all truths through only our own knowledge.:

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:- Some what?: Herald Jaysen leans forward a little. :I - don't think we do - I didn't completely follow - but...say more? We do have merchants, some of them have particular contacts...: 

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As soon as the thought finally, actually, explicitly occurs to Thellim that lower productivity per capita might result in less professional specialization, it is immediately obvious to her that this ought, in fact, to be the case.  If your children are starving in winter you probably cannot afford fiction matchmakers.

But there's still got to be some specialization, right?  Right??

:...somebody in the region knows an unusual amount about which foreign countries would pay a lot for books.  I don't know who they are or what they'd be called... somebody you know would have a better subjective probability of knowing who else would know that person, than anybody else you know, though, I would hope?:

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Jaysen frowns. :...Hmm, sure, I could ask around. It's not going to be fast, though. Might already be too late in the year, the trade roads in Hardorn get snowed over: 

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Herald Tantras is scowling, though not at Thellim specifically. :Who mentioned the Eastern Empire to you, anyway? They're really far east, two countries away - and thank the gods for that, because they're evil: 

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The Valdemaran word 'evil' doesn't have a direct correspondent word in Baseline.  It is not that dath ilan has never seen foul acts and harmful deeds, but there are different words for specialized kinds of wrongness.  There is utilitarian wrongness: predictable consequential net harm.  There is deontological wrongness, the transgression of a rule that existed for reasons.  There is virtue-ethical wrongness, things that make you a worse person to do and inflict harm against your own soul.  There is aesthetic wrongness, acts that are ugly.  There is oathbreaking, the tainting of the Algorithm, the cracking of the trust that underlies everything, the archetypal thing never to do even if there is a reason.  There is a word that Valdemaran might translate as 'hatred', the cognitive-emotional state that exists in human nature and which dath ilani are warned against ever falling into, when some conflict has spiraled completely out of control and you start to directly take pleasure each time you imagine inverting the private part of someone else's utility function; people who walk around with that possibility in mind are closer to being walking bombs if they go insane or schizophrenic; you do not want agents walking around with precalculated inverses for other agents' utility functions, it could lead Reality into a very ugly place.  There is a specialized subword of 'hatred' that means taking pleasure in others' pain, what might translate as 'sadism'; it is known that such an awful possibility exists within human nature, and any dath ilani who found themselves veering near it would mentally back off and ask themselves what they were doing wrong.  There is a short snappy single-syllable word that means 'defecting in a game-theoretic dilemma', even though dath ilan tries to avoid that coming up in reality, because so many important counterfactuals center around that possibility.

There is a word in dath ilani that means the harmony and song between the many varieties of goodness: kindness and altruism and honor and beauty.  It is the word for those rare occasions where, instead of tradeoffs, there is a nontrivial question on which utilitarianism and deontology and virtue ethics and aesthetics all agree.  It would describe the act of printing books in order to prevent children from starving in winter.  A high-functioning society should present its individuals with only rare true moments like that, because usually things should not be going wrong in that many ways at once; there is a dath ilani proverb that, like acts of individual heroism, such moments should be found mainly in fiction.  In ordinary reality it applies to two lovers deciding to conceive a child, and doesn't need to apply much more often than that.

There is no dath ilani word that means the opposite of the Light.  It's not a topic that comes up often enough to need its own word.

Thellim does not have time to think anything like all that; she has only heard one mental word in a sentence full of other words while Very Serious matters were being discussed.  The connotation that briefly flashes across is that the Eastern Empire is extra bonus bad in a way that is dangerous, self-corruptive, icky, and deontologically forbidden.

:Vanyel mentioned it to me, this morning, as said; he seemed hesitant about it, as said.  That Vanyel said it at all, implies that he did not consider obvious that the Eastern Empire was extra-bonus-bad enough that the harm they would do with more books would outweigh the good of importing their food.  Unless you know more than Vanyel about the Eastern Empire, and you know they would - just take that food away from an equal quantity of children there, or some such horror?  Separately, I infer from context that Gates can't reach to regions as distant as 'Hardorn', or are too expensive, or that I'm overestimating how much food could pass through one.  But I am very ignorant of that and all your magecraft; somebody may need to spell out numbers for me.:

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Tantras scowls, looks over at Jaysen, ducks his head. :I - no, I don't think they'd do that. Just, I - wouldn't trust them as trade partners. And they're an empire, right...: He trails off, apparently failing to find the words to explain why this is important.

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King Randale rescues him, leaning forward a little in his chair. :I've read the histories - they've conquered two outlying kingdoms in the past couple of centuries. I suppose it's not likely they'd go after Valdemar, not with Hardorn and, er, what's-it-called, on their path first - but I'd rather not bring ourselves to their attention. Especially not from a position of need: 

He sighs. :Savil, can you speak to the Gates question?: 

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She folds her arms, leans back. :Right. Main issue is that Gates need a mage - Adept-strength, if you want to Gate hundreds of miles - and they wear you out. I won't be good for much else today. We have less than two dozen mages, most of them are nowhere near Adept, and Van's our best but he, er, has difficulties. Gates cost us more if they're larger or held for longer, and they'd need to be both for mass goods transport. Oh, and of course you need to have been somewhere, to Gate there, and you need a doorway to build the threshold on. I don't think we've got anyone who's been past the capital of Hardorn: 

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:If we sent an envoy -: 

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:Who? I can't think of anyone who could do it but me, and I'm sorry but I'd rather not trek out to the Eastern Empire when winter's on its way: 

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Shavri starts to lift a hand, diffidently, then ducks her head as though self-conscious. 

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:What is it, Shavri?: 

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She stares down at the table, clearly unused to speaking in meetings. 

:- Just remembering a conversation I had with Van years ago. He'd tracked down some ancient book about the Eastern Empire, from gods know where, he reads a lot. He mentioned they apparently do a lot of their shipping and trade by Gate. I don't know how they pull that off, but...they must have more mages, or stronger ones, or - something else, different magic, I don't know. And if that's true then - maybe we could pay them for the food and the Gates to transport it?:

At Randi and Tantras' simultaneous winces, :- er, maybe just to Hardorn, if we don't want to give their mages Gate-locations here: She looks hopefully at Thellim, as though asking for backup.

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Thellim has read books containing hostile aliens ever and she is trying to adapt to a less peaceful world, on the occasions where somebody prompts her to explicitly think about that.

:I was - not expecting there to exist any factions with more advanced logistics than Valdemar, at all, based on the fact that nobody else was shutting down the conflict with Karse and shipping you relief supplies.  If the most powerful factions in this world are much more powerful than you, and extra-bonus-bad, and have Gate logistics, that makes me want to take a huge step back from this entire situation and ask a lot of stupid basic questions.  Why does the Eastern Empire have better logistics than Valdemar and Karse, do they kill anybody who tries to get better at it?  Do they exterminate you if I teach you to make better steel?  Why haven't they exterminated you already?  I am still in the phase of needing to ask many questions that only children need to ask.:

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This mostly gets her a lot of baffled looks. 

:....Sometimes countries are more or less advanced than other countries?: King Randale offers eventually. :And, honestly, it'd never have occurred to me that the Eastern Empire would care one way or another, if two minor kingdoms halfway across the continent are killing each other: 

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:Maybe if it were Seejay they'd intervene: Jaysen offers. Helpfully, to Thellim, :- Seejay is well known for its spice exports. We trade with them as well. And Ruvan has their gold mines. But Valdemar has less to make us interesting, I reckon: 

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:A war could even be convenient for them. If it weakens us and they want to do some more conquering -: 

Tantras stops. Exchanges a dark, significant look with King Randale. 

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Savil's expression is suddenly very blank. 

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And Shavri is staring woodenly at her lap, in the way of someone who does not at all have a poker face, knows it, and is trying to at least react in a way that isn't very informative. 

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Thellim has no idea what is going on and will wait politely for these Very Serious People to cue her in.

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A couple of said Very Serious People, namely Herald Jaysen and Herald Keiran, also look baffled about this! 

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Shavri clears her throat. :Er, in your world, is it...normal, for countries to - care about what's going on in smaller countries really far away?: 

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:We don't really have 'countries' so much as factions, and also anyone can talk to anyone else on the planet on ten seconds' notice - artificial voice transmission, like being able to shout with infinite range to any single other person.  Metaphorically, from your viewpoint, Civilization behaves like a single huge city in a lot of ways that matter.  I think this is a case where my world is so different from yours that I'd have trouble getting to grips with the question.  Of course we'd care, we'd care about anything we could see and interact with.:

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:...Wow. That's - so different: 

The King seems awed, and confused, and unsure how to respond to any of it. 

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:...And then here, in our world, we hardly ever see what's happening even just in the poorer parts of Haven. No wonder the Eastern Empire doesn't care what's happening a thousand miles away: