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Lisara is seventeen and still wants to join the warriors, bold defenders who keep away the demons and raiders from outside of Forwyd looking to steal cattle or other goods, just as much as she used to.

She still has to do some kind of useful work, of course, so she runs messages, hauls carts around, weeds the fields as fast as possible, practices archery by hunting rabbits and sparrows in the woods. She lurks in the practice field for most of her spare time, running with warriors, practicing forms with a wooden practice spear, sparring.

Her home is on the small side by Firkin standards - Sixteen people, from Grandma Barls to a new toddler, barely old enough to walk. Klima. She might be Lisara's half-sister, born of a different mother but perhaps having the same father. It's impossible to tell for sure, as nobody in Firkin families really cares to keep track of who fathers who. But Lisara thinks of Klima as a little sister regardless, of course.

And then, one day, there are shouts of 'demons!' outside. Sounds of violence. Stupidly, recklessly, Lisara takes a careful, cautious peek outside.

The warriors bodies are scattered around. As she watches, one of them stabs himself in the throat, twitching. Folk are standing, terrified, in line in front of half a dozen red-skinned, scaly demons. One of the neighbors contorts and dances as the demons point and jeer. They kneel as one and are forced to chant a ragged, dead-sounding chorus - "Hail. Hail our new lord. Hail the demon general, Firaxal."

Demons can control any one person they can see. Not perfectly, not forever... But plenty long enough to make you stab yourself or march to a cage. They are a terrifying enemy, an evil that any ordinary person is helpless to, who make you walk into your own tortuous prison. Warriors train to use smoke, to ambush or overwhelm them... But, apparently, they failed.

As the demons go house-by-house, herding their thralls into wooden cages on wagons as they pass, Lisara grabs her bow. But her brothers talk her out of it... By the time she stands, draws the string, and fires, they'll have seen her, they'll have her. Instead she hides, sits, paralyzed, and... Prays. Feeling like a coward, she prays that the demons will pass her by, that she'll get away, that someone will come and kill them before they can haul her off to whatever demons do to the people they take.

Just when the demons will soon enter her door, drawn by little Klima's cries even as her family tries to keep the babe quiet and hide in nooks in the house, she feels - something. Like bursting into flame. Like being touched by one of the gods.

A glittering hole opens in the large hearth-room.

"What the devil is that, Lisara?!?"

"I don't know! Let's go!"

"It's - what the - is it safe-"

"Safer than letting the demons find us! Go, go!"

 

As it turned out, that hole in the air went straight to the training yard outside the biggest city in all of Firkin lands. There was yelling and confusion and disbelief, but it was clear that somehow, for some reason, a nobody from the small town of Forwyd could open holes in the air that let people cross vast distances in an instant.

They had her open one above the demons, strolling through the defeated village complacently and enjoying their effortless victory, and dropped enormous jars of burning oil through it.

It was her first taste of real violence. Seeing what agony the demons went through should have been - satisfying, vengeful. Instead, she threw up and couldn't be made to open another portal for an hour.

Some weeks later, having grown thoroughly sick of the sudden fame and the way everyone suddenly wanted to be her friend, even adored her, and constantly pestered for her to make more and more portals...

She felt sick. Yes, she was being useful, she had a really awesome magic power, she had the most famous warriors in the land teaching her to fight which was amazing... But somehow, everything was wrong. It didn't help that she doesn't really have much practice using the strange portals, or that nobody could come up with an explanation for them except 'a gift from the gods'.

One afternoon she just couldn't take it anymore. With three merchants' sons flirting with her and half a dozen other famous people waiting for their turn to talk to her or ask for another portal across the room to goggle at, she clambered onto a table, opened a portal to somewhere, and said, "I'll be back... Later, maybe."

In a forest somewhere, she sat, head in hands. Why is she being so ungrateful? So... Skittish? She should be jubilant, in the lap of luxury. There are half a dozen emotions warring in her head. Shame and disgust and anger and the cold certainty that she would be dead if not for a literal actual miracle.

"Gods? Can any of you hear me? ...Why? What do you want? Why me? Why now?"

She gets no answer.

 

She kills demons in their sleep. Demons are the epitome of evil, controlling humans and using them as slaves, torturing them. She spies on them with tiny portals the size of her iris in corners of the room, using one portal to find a spot for the next. It's terrifying, the thought that they'll notice her and then the demons will have someone who can make portals- But she can't really stop herself. She watches them joke with each other and eat in the same breath as they casually backhand a boy who can't be older than eight for being too slow to fetch them more cider. She steals poison from some apothecary and drips it into their mouths while they sleep. They gurgle and die.

It's only satisfying the first dozen or two times. Their 'slaves' don't celebrate. With few exceptions, they panic and mourn. They start keeping watches and she has to quickly close portals more than ones to keep from being detected. She is murdering scores of people. Demons who steal people and torture them, yes, but still... She finds she has little taste for killing people. Perhaps 'warrior' would have been a bad job... At any rate, she can't make herself keep doing it. Maybe if a demon were actively torturing someone. But she doesn't want to spy on them and watch for that either.

She wanders some more, feeling worse than before she got the damn power for squandering it so much.

 

Much later, wandering through a city whose name she can't pronounce on a different continent, still unable to stand the idea of going home for longer than a minute or two at a time, she opens a door and walks into somewhere... Stranger than usual. She doesn't hesitate to go into Milliways - she doesn't hesitate to go places generally anymore, since she can always just leave.

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Someone else has gotten yet another Milliways door.

"Hey, excuse me, would you happen to be named something like Link or Liane?"

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"...Huh, you speak Firi. Lisara. Who're you?"

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"I'm Valanda. I don't speak Firi, I speak Ilan and Hari and South Essi and Ereli and I'm getting conversational in English. There's magical translation here, everything sounds like your native language, don't try to take books home and expect to be able to read them."

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"Woah, wait. Magic? You mean - I'm not the only one?"

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"Are you the only one who can do magic in your world? Where I'm from all the natives can. We just have some immigrants who can't."

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"Maybe not the only one, but... One day I just. Could. Never heard of anything like it before." She winces.

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"I stop things. What do you do?"

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"-Uh. I kind of just met you. I mean... Yeah."

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"Of course. So if you haven't been here before you probably want to know what this place is, right?"

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"Yeah, it's weird. How does that even work," she gestures at the window with exploding stars. "Is this a place for gods or something?"

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"I haven't seen any gods here but I expect the Christians think theirs is lurking around. This place steals doors that usually don't go here. Once you leave and close the door, it'll go back to normal. Time is usually paused in your home world while you're here. Also, sometimes different universes have different versions of the same person. It's weird."

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"I've never seen a god. They didn't answer when I prayed. But everyone thinks they're what gave me magic... Also, steals doors. Okay, sure. I was just wandering around, anyway, I didn't need that door. But where is here? What's a 'universe'?"

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"All of the places that you can reach by going a direction are in a universe together. If a place is up or down or north or south or anything like that relative to another place. But if there's a place you just can't get to that way from another place, not even if you can fly, not even if you can breathe in vacuum, then those places aren't in the same universe."

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"...Woah. There are places like that? I thought I could - I mean, oh, I want to try this now. Uh. Is this place its own universe? Because of the door?"

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"I'm pretty sure it is, yeah."

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And now there's a hole in the air, doorway-sized, edges glittering in silver and gold and blue and red. It opens up to a forest clear of underbrush. She steps through, looks around, and back again.

"Coooool I can cross universessssss!"

And then a man in some kind of shiny uniform decorated with eye symbols comes out of a side room. "Hey, I'm Security. Please don't open those things in the main bar area, okay? It's not actually against the rules but it's giving me a headache."

"Huh? Oh, sure." The portal vanishes. "Security?"

"Thanks. Yes. I keep things friendly. The rules of Milliways are no violence and no nudity in the main bar area. We have a little bit of discretion in how we handle things, but seriously, just don't cause trouble. You don't need to come get me either, I can monitor from my office."

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"Hi, security person, thanks for everything! Lisara, were you thinking of immigrating somewhere?"

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"Not really? But, I mean, I can always go home really easily if I want to. It's just... Home is a bit complicated right now."

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"Do you want to talk about it?"

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(Security guy has gone back into his office.)

"...Maybe later? I mean, I just found this place and it's interesting and - all that - is why I'm wandering in the first place, ugh."

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"Yeah, that's fine. You just... seem like you're running away from something, I don't know."

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"Yeah, sounds about right..." She wanders towards the bar to take a seat.

Napkin. "Huh! This place is a pretty good distraction though! Sure, I'll have a drink." It's pink and sweet. She grins. "It's sweet! Yum!"

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"Yeah, it's a good place."

She seems really uninterested in talking about what they can do for each other, so instead he asks Bar if anything's been published in Hyrule since he left.

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There's a smattering of advertisements, a new edition of Rumor Mill ('They say there used to be Great Fairy living somewhere in the vast Gerudo Desert! It's waaaay too hot to go exploring, though. Not to mention there's monsters out there! Eek! Traysi's rumor rating: One star.'), and a Tarrey Town Town Charter. Apparently someone founded a new town.

Lisara sips at her drink. Books? Maybe later. Reading is kind of tricky, she never got the hang of it. The paper is interesting stuff though.

After a couple of minutes, she asks, "...So you have magic too, but it's not special where you're from?"

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"Yeah. There are a few kinds, most people I know have one. Not portals, though. I make things indestructible or keep them from burning or that kind of thing. Some people can move things with their minds."

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"Well... Nobody can do magic except devils and dragons where I'm from. They're not human. And they all have the same kind, not the kind I have. So everyone thinks I'm, blessed by the gods, or special somehow. And everyone wanted portals to places. It... Got really overwhelming. So, uh, sorry for being prickly about it."

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"Oh, yeah, when there are tens of thousands of people with the same magic you have you can do jobs that have nothing to do with it and nobody hounds you about it. I guess you'd still have that problem where I'm from, though."

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"Maybe. That's not even really it. It was... Nobody cared about me before, right? I was just some woman. Maybe I would have made an okay warrior, but I was nobody. And now suddenly everyone knows my name and the high council wants to talk to me. Now everyone's my friend." Shrug.

"Not because I'm a good person to know, or interesting, or kind, but because I can do something for them. You can see it in everyone's faces. I'm sort of wondering how much you're doing it now, I can tell you're doing it at least a little even if you don't mean to." Sigh.

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"Yeah, I am, if someone's going around with universe-spanning portals I want them working for me. I would've wanted to talk to you anyway, though, but the reasons for that might be even more uncomfortable."

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"Well. I won't be anybody's tool, you know. But, eh, try me."

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"There are a lot of worlds. Mine is one of the better ones but it's not perfect and you might not like the sound of it. The worst worlds I've heard of are just full of torture. One I've been to is constantly patrolled by monsters and has an evil god trying to destroy it. Opening portals to just any world would be really dangerous - not just for you, it'd be dangerous for anyone around you, if anything came through. But there are all these opportunities. There are worlds where there are people who could fix the technology for traveling from star to star if they had any metal but they don't, and there are worlds like mine where boring common people have bedframes made of gold alloys because gold is just that cheap. And within the same world, on the same planet, there can be places in opposite seasons, and trading produce between them should be easier.

"And if you move to my world you'll be moving to a world where you can have fruit all year - sometimes it'll have to come frozen, but we can do that easily, we can enchant boxes to stay freezing inside no matter the temperature outside. And you can live in a house that's always warm and hear the news from everywhere in the world every day. But you probably don't want to if you're not desperate. We have slavery, only some of our people have heard of the concept of morality - let alone caring about it - and the imperial government will be very afraid of you."

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"...Hmm. Yeah. I - I get it. This thing could be so useful, and I just - run away instead because I can't take it." She shakes her head. "They had me open a hole between the tin mines and the copper ones and the forges. More metal more easily. I found out about the seasons earlier. You can just pick up apples off the ground, some places, nobody's there to claim them. And take them to the middle of the desert, they've never seen an apple before, get salt, turn the salt in for clothes... I did that kind of thing for a little bit. Slavery, you say? Yeah, people do that to each other. Especially the devils. Your government can't be any scarier than devils, I think."

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"What do devils do?"

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"If they can see you, they can make you do whatever they want."

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"Strictly speaking, my government doesn't need to see you to do that..."

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"You've got the same thing? Why is it even a thing?"

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"I don't know. It's probably not even the same thing, just something similar."

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"Well. Devils can't keep it up forever. But plenty long enough to make you stab yourself, or stop breathing for a while, or march to a cage..."

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"Our kind can make you not do things, but it can't make you do things. But it can last as long as you live, there's no time limit."

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"...Still not sure that's worse. I can hurt people real bad with portals if I want to. Burning forests, magic is scary, huh? And people are cruel and violent and petty..." Sigh, again.

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"...Yeah, but some people are other things, too."

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"Yeah. My family's nice. They love me, even if Mazo yells if the chores don't get done and Dene never shuts up about his own troubles. And little Klima's just a toddler, she can barely talk, toddlers aren't evil. But some people are, and it gets old. You know?"

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"I don't think I do."

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"Well, I don't know how to explain what I mean then."

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"I'm not really used to assuming people wouldn't just as soon eat me alive, I think sometimes people who are surprised by it get mad about that, but it's not something that makes much sense to me."

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"Ouch, that's nasty. I mean - it's not usual at all, that's a horrible fate, but it's not unheard of for me? There's stories where the hero gets eaten by wolves, or chomped in half by a dragon... I suppose you could say... What I thought were good morals probably weren't good, actually, and most people I met don't really follow them like I thought they did."

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"It's not common at home, but when it happens it's not usually wild animals. But it's - not just that they'll literally eat you, although some of them want to, it's that people who don't care about you will take advantage of you in lots of different ways if they can."

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"That sounds... Depressing."

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"I don't know, I don't mind. But it's a reason you probably wouldn't be any happier where I live than where you came from. I wish I could offer you a door to - can you open portals to worlds you've never been to?"

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"You know about as much as I do! Well, not really. I think I have to sort of know where I'm going? At least a little bit. Somewhere far away doesn't work, that forest I heard is somewhere past the mountains does."

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"Maybe Bar will let you make portals out in the yard and you can test it."

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"Oh, yeah, I should probably do that. Soon as I think of things to test. I'm not as curious as I should be, honestly. They used to make fun of me for it."

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"Maybe practice will help with that."

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"Maybe, maybe. But I don't feel like it quite yet. Hey, some things that can't burn or break could be handy. Almost as handy as a portal, eh? Do you take spices and salt as payment? 'Cause gold doesn't work, you said you had lots."

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"I can take payment any of those ways. Bar does currency conversion, too. And sometimes I've been known to take payment in art."

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"Bar, can I give you these gold coins and get some of his kind of money?"

She squints at the reply napkin, mouthing each word and reading slowly.

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"You can also pay me in your coins, I just need to know how much they're worth." Does she seem to mind if he looks over at her napkin to see the exchange rate?

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She doesn't mind. One golden coin is about 600 rings.

"...Reading is hard. Only priests and doctors learn to do it. I just know, like, ten words. So it's really weird how I can... Sort of understand all this."

The translation effect tends to help with vocabulary, but it can only do so much if you are not used to reading yourself, I'm afraid. Bar says.

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"...I'm tempted to offer to try to teach you to read, but I can only read Ilan and Hari."

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"I could get someone from home to teach me if I really wanted, no worries. Might be a good idea, so I can talk to Bar better."

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"Good, I'm glad you've got people. Why priests and doctors in particular, by the way?"

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"Yeah, family is good. Having people is nice. Even when they're kind of overwhelming... Priests decide what we should do. Where to build new villages and mines, how much grain needs to be stored for later, how to punish crimes, and stuff. They need to read old things for all that. And doctors have to learn a lot to do their work without accidentally killing people, and can't remember everything all the time, so they need to read things. I guess some craftsmen and most merchants learn it too."

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"We didn't have priests where I'm from until we got some immigrants. And judges only have so much discretion in sentencing criminals but I guess the way they know what they're supposed to do is by reading about it. Your society sounds pretty different."

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"I think you guys have way more stuff. Way, way more stuff. About the only thing I actually recognize in here is wood!"

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"If you want a break from everyone wanting you for your portals I can teach you some things that'll make them want you for your fancy futuristic technology instead."

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"That sounds fun, if you don't mind. Don't know if you're busy with stuff or anything. I could find 'books' and read about it, but, uh, yeah..."

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"I have time - time is paused where I came from, or at least it usually is when you're in Milliways with the door shut. I'm not sure how to figure out where to start or what information you can use without magic you don't have, though."

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"We have bronze, you can make it by mixing up copper and tin, it's much better than using just copper for tools. We make houses out of wood, dirt, and clay. We get water from wells and make pots and things out of fired clay. They figured out that if you leave fields empty sometimes, food grows a little bit better there the next year. There's this clever thing called a 'pulley' they use to make moving big rocks easier..."

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"Do you know about germs and how to make soap?"

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"Well, soap exists, so maybe the priests do?"

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"We can check if they do. Bar, are there books from her world that mention anything about germs?"

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Nothing that indicates an understanding of the idea of germs, though some medical texts suggest boiling water and bandages and similar measures.

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"Thanks! She says your priests probably don't know what germs are but know some of the right things to do about them anyway. They're very tiny living creatures that can make you sick if they get inside you. You can kill some of them with fire or wash them away with soap."

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"...So germs are even tinier bugs? That make you sick? Yikes. Yeah, better tell them that. We know washing things sometimes keeps people from getting sick, and boiling water does, and using purified blades to make food too. But nobody agrees on why. Tiny bugs makes sense, sort of. I wonder what kind of experiment could prove it. If there's an experiment they can do themselves, they'll like the idea more."

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"Got any records of nonmagical worlds discovering germs?" he asks Bar.

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She has suggestions.

It seems like a popular experiment is to make two plates of something that molds, seal them up, and boil or otherwise sterilize one. One of them molds - the other does not. To disprove the 'miasma' theory, one can put two plates near a source of disease and have one of them actually be touched by the source, and then also prepare two plates away from it, one touched by the source. There are usually other possible explanations than germs, but microscopes can let you actually see germs, that might do the trick too.

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Valanda reads some of that out loud.

"I don't know if you can make microscopes, but Bar might have a schematic drawing you could give to one of your smiths. I don't know if that'd be enough information to figure it out from, though."

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"Or I could buy one?"

Napkin. She makes a slightly strangled sound. "That's a lot of gold. I can just tell them that stuff. Could go tell them now, then come back. It'd just be annoying to do that over and over."

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"When you try to get to Milliways from a door you usually need someone from your world to hold it open or it'll stop leading here but I guess portals might work differently..."

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"Hmm... Be right back!"

She heads toward the backyard.

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"Have fun, I hope it works."

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She waves jauntily and is gone for at least half an hour.

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Oh, right, of course. After a while he goes to check the yard.

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Just as a shimmering portal opens up and she steps back through!

"Hi again! I kicked a hornet's nest by claiming I had inter-dimensional knowledge. They're setting up a bunch of germ experiments now and wanted me to go learn more stuff!"

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"Sounds like good news. I just realized I forgot to let you know sometimes time passes faster or slower in different parts of Milliways, so if you leave the portal open in the backyard and come back to the bar there's no telling how long it'll be from their point of view."

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The portal zips closed. "It stops if I do that, right? Seems nicer to 'em, not making them wait."

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"It usually stops, yeah."

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"Great! Back inside?"

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"Yeah, let's. Did they want to know about anything in particular?"

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"Well I mostly ignored everyone except the doctors, so, more things about bodies and health? Oh, I showed them the cup Bar gave me, they want to know how to make glass."

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He starts to ask Bar for a guide, but stops himself when he has a better idea. "Do you have a way to show us movies?"

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You may borrow devices to view movies on, and they will not be added to your tab unless they are damaged or removed from the bar area.

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"And have you got documentaries on glassmaking without magic?"

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Of course.

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It's interesting stuff! She might end up buying one of these full of videos for home, hideously expensive as it is, she has gold.

 

After a while (presuming he's still around), she asks Valanda, "Hey, what's your world like? You said you don't have devils or dragons, and do have other kinds of people?"

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"Yeah, we have some people who are cats and some who are snakes and some who are like humans but they're all born male and turn into women when they get older. We have things you could watch if Bar can get them but they're mostly magical so I don't know if she can."

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"Any everyone has magic! You must all be very rich."

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"I don't know what your standards are, but maybe. When I was poor by our standards I lived in a place small enough I couldn't lie down without bending my legs, but it was fireproof and never cold and I had food every day."

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"That's... Cramped, but it sounds fairly rich to me. Stone houses are rare, and enough firewood to never be cold is very expensive."

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"Then we're rich by your standards. I could hold my door open and call for a mage to come enchant you a heater and a chiller and a couple insulated boxes to keep them in. It might cost you as much as a few days of food, depending on how expensive the food you like is."

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"Unless I'm trying to buy a palace I can probably afford it. And you'd know more than me what stuff from there would be good to have. And, ooh! I could buy like ten and trade them as magic items back home. That'd be great. No, a hundred!"

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"Might be worth doing, yeah. And probably safer than moving in."

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"Yeah, if other worlds have other things like devils I'd better be pretty careful about just leaving portals open. Might be fun to visit, though. And it's more places to do my whole trade thing."

She lied to her own government and said she could only hold open a dozen or so at once, just so they'd stop asking, and being careful about what portals go where is probably a good idea.

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"Once I open my door and start calling people there are some other people who'll want to come. Anything you want to do before a bunch of new people show up?"

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"I kind of want to get to know you? I like you, you're helping me with stuff, but we've talked for like two minutes. Like, I don't know, what's your family like? You said you lived in a really small room - crowded house? We had sixteen under one roof, but a bunch were little still and it's a big roof, a ways out from the main village, so it was alright."

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"That was after I moved away, we didn't get along and they made me work for them without pay when I was younger. Yours sounds... nicer."

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"Maybe, I wouldn't know. I mean, I worked without pay? I tended the crops, I weeded, I cleaned things and hauled water for everyone from the well. Stuff like that. If you can't work, even simple chores, that's one thing, but if you just don't... I'm not sure what would happen? Maybe I'd have gotten kicked out and starved. Eh, it's probably different."

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"It's... I work, I've worked my whole life since I left. But I hadn't liked them for a while by then, so I didn't like doing things for them. They hadn't treated me morally when I was really little, nothing really awful - a couple times when my father had me helpless on the floor he reminded me he could hurt me if he wanted, it was just that kind of thing, it didn't hurt me much but it made me not like them. So I resented that they were the ones getting paid and not me."

He shrugs and sighs.

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"...D'you want a hug?"

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"I love hugs!"

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Hug!

"...So, I know others don't do it the same way, but in Firsyd lands you can sort of just find a new family most of the time, if you need to."

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"That sounds nice. Can you do that even if you're a kid?"

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"Hmm, sort of depends? You want to find another family who wants you first, and then you can just go. Kids without anyone to look after them can find someone to, usually, even if the priests have to say they'll give up extra grain rations for doing it. There was this one kid who never spent more than a season with one family after he turned ten."

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"...That makes sense. I should've thought of that, we might be able to do something like that in Ira Sani if I can figure out how to implement it... can you tell me more about how it works?"

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"I'm not really good at explaining stuff. It's... You take care of people, you find a place for them, that's just kind of how it works?"

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"I don't think it's how the other moral people I know do things but I don't really understand how they do things. They definitely care about people, though."

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"Well, sorry I don't really know how to explain it. Wait. Do you have tiny families like those desert people? Just a man, a woman, and their kids?"

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"The one I came from was like that and I think our immigrants might be like that too. I've known people whose families were a woman and a handful of men and their kids, but none of those people were human."

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"Oh, yeah, to me, that's not a family. Two or three at least of each and everyone's kids and sometimes random other families' kids that you get along with and moved in, that's a proper family."

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"Then we just don't have families. What are they like?"

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"Kind of hard to answer that, but... There's always someone cooking. There's always someone to talk to. There's always someone to hug. There's always a cute baby or kid around you can play with or teach something, and that's fun. You do group songs and tell stories over the fire and celebrate and lament, all together. If you're sick and just need to do nothing for the day, they'll help you, since you help them when they need it. Unless you're lazy too often, maybe not then."

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"Some of that sounds like caralendri and some of it sounds like other people I know. I didn't grow up with any of it, though."

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She just shrugs. "...Caralendri?"

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"The people who are sort of like humans but always start as boys. They're the ones with families with one woman and multiple men."

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"Oh, right. Lots of different kinds of people. That's pretty interesting really. Even devils work like humans, just with weird-looking skin and horns and magic. Dunno about dragons."

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"I can tell you about the kinds of people I know about - there are eight on my world but one is humans and there's one I don't know much about, and I've met a few more kinds through Milliways." Shrug. "If you want, I mean."

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"Hah, sure! See, that's the thing, there's so much out there now. I barely even know where to start. I don't really get the tech stuff, I wanna see what people are like. Even humans do things all sorts of different in different places."

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"Yeah, people are really different in different places. A lot of what I learned about morals and government I learned from someone who was a kind of amphibian called a zora - they're really nice people, they're brave and they care about their people and their world. I think the humans who moved to my world a while ago would agree with a lot of what he told me, but it's pretty different than what I heard growing up. It was stuff like making sure if you have a baby you take care of it and give it a sense of belonging, and making sure orphans are taken care of. And whether you should only have sex with one person in your life, that part was weird."

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"Someone should talk to everyone and, like, make a list of differences. Maybe even me! ...That'd get kind of lonely, wouldn't it? It's not like you'll only ever want to lie down with one other person ever, that's not really how it works."

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"I think the concern is making sure your children have both a mother and a father and that you're careful of your partner's feelings, but yeah, it's not something I decided to do."

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"I had two moms and four dads, four older sisters and three brothers, three grandmas... Nobody knows for sure who their actual father even is most of the time. I mean, sometimes you can tell if you look the same, and you're not really supposed to have maybe-baby-having-sex with someone who might be your parent or sibling because - I'm not sure why, but that's a thing. Still, only one person? That's really weird and, like, self-denying? It's a fun way to kill time and you can even earn money doing it if you're good looking, 'specially women."

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"Yeah, where I'm from you can earn more that way than doing magic at first. Not after you have a few years of practice, though, then magic is better."

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"Depends on the magic too, I bet? If everyone can do something it gets cheaper to hire for, but I have shiny foreign magic."

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"Yeah, definitely."

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"I wonder if I can get a priest to, like, tell me where to go and what portals to make and just have tons of money lying around whenever I want any? And they'll do a good job because they get a cut. It sounds kind of stressful to try and figure all that out myself. And there might not be any priests who aren't super annoying or untrustworthy."

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"I might know a priest who could help with that but I don't know if you want to trust the first priest I thought of who's been to Milliways."

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"I was just thinking out loud, anyway. I'll probably pick someone I know from home if I do that."

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"That makes sense."

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"Yep. So, you were gonna tell me about the kinds of people? Humans, gender changing not-humans..."

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"Yeah. The gender-changing not-humans are caralendri. They live in groups of a woman and some men and their children, and all together a group of those kinds of families where all the women are related and they're all on good terms is a clan. Everyone in a clan is usually pretty loyal to everyone else. The clans are pretty important in our politics since they tend to vote together, so you just have to win over a couple of people and get lots of votes - do you have voting?"

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"...Choosing people or something? I don't get it. Priests choose the new priests."

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"When you have a lot of people who can't agree on who should be in charge, you can have the people who want to do it explain to everyone why it'd be a good idea to choose them. Then you - if everyone can read, you can make a list of all the choices and have everyone mark all the ones they think would be good, but I'm sure you could do it another way. Then you count up all the votes for each person, and then the one with the most votes is in charge for a while."

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"Yeah but what if everyone's too busy with the crops to properly care about who's in charge? I know, like, four priests. I don't know who's the best priest."

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"That's what groups like the clans do. If you're a Vesairel who's really busy at work, you can trust the one or two people in your clan who tell you who to vote for. And other people have other groups - there's a sort of group of ereli who look out for each other and one of them can tell the others who'd be best for ereli, sometimes professional associations do something similar, it's not hard to find recommendations - and you don't have to vote very often anyway, and you know when elections will be if you want to do your research beforehand."

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"I guess that makes sense... If only one person has to figure out who's best and people who trust them can vote the same way... And if you're richer you probably have more free time?"

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"We might, I don't know. It's not unusual to work eight-hour days but most people prefer to do less than that - eight hours is a third of a day."

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"...Most people are doing something almost all day? You mostly get up at dawn and work until dusk or a bit after with short breaks for food and water. Unless it's a festival day. I think winter days are shorter. We'd work more if we had good ways of lighting up places at night."

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"Yeah, then you work more than we do. Maybe we can fix that with robots or something."

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"More food would do it. More firewood, better houses that don't need as much fixing..."

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"How do you get your food?"

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"You put seeds in the ground, dig little bitty rivers all the way through your fields to bring water to the seeds and also hope it rains, pull up weeds and keep birds away, and wait for harvest time. Hunters get us meat and some people get fruit and nuts from the forests, but not enough to feed everyone that way."

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"That sounds pretty similar. But we have magic for the part where you put the seeds in the ground and for keeping pests away and we have magic that makes plants grow better."

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"Maybe I should get some of that. Bar seems to have stuff that helps too. Lots of possibilities."

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"Yeah, there are. I can find a green mage to enchant some things for you, but you're probably better off with things you can make more of yourself."

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"Well, that's what trade is for, right? If we run out or break or lose them someone just has to pop over with a few bushels of grain and a calf ready for slaughter and we can get the growing magic again?"

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"Yeah, as long as you're on good terms with the Hari Empire and as long as you're around to make portals..."

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"Ah, yeah. No clue if they'll stick around when I'm gone. I... Try not to think about that."

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"Machines that anyone can do maintenance on might not work as well but they're less fragile. I mean, they're more likely to break, but..."

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"Oh, they'll love learning all about any machines I bring back."

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"That's good. I can get you mages too, it's not like having some enchanted artifacts will make things worse."

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"I think maybe I should bring someone here... But anyone I bring would totally freak out. Maybe not Bral? I know I'm not the one who's best at this stuff, is the thing."

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"And you don't have to worry about how far he is from your door."

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"I barely have to worry about where anything is anymore! ...Except devils, I have to worry about those."

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"I might be able to ward you against their magic."

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"Ooh. Ah... But the only way to test that would be, you know, to try it, though..."

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"Yeah. If you had a friend who was a devil and wanted to help us that'd be nice but I'm guessing you don't."

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She winces and looks suddenly kind of miserable, remembering killing a lot of devils in their sleep.

That was... What warriors do. And she doesn't want to. Or can't. But they're defenseless- And so are the slaves they take. Yaaaay, feelings...

"Ah... No."

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"Yeah. This is what worldwide empires are for."

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"...For what exactly? I'm not..." She clenches a fist. "Because everybody's awful? Me and you included?"

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"Some people feel sad when other people are sad and happy when they're happy, but it's not everyone. I think with humans it might be more than half. I care a lot about people, but if I met a devil, I might be so scared of what might happen to me or anyone else that I'd just kill them. If I knew there was a government that would avenge me if anything happened, then I could try to make friends."

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"...It's. Not as satisfying as you might think it is. Killing evildoers."

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"It's... sad. But it's important. Especially if you don't have anything better."

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"Well, it's probably easier if you-" Her voice cracks. "You know. They'd just pile on the glory and honor even more back home if I told them I killed a lot of slaver devils. I think that'd make me throw up."

...She is maybe about to cry.

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"Of course they would. They want to be safe. You guys are basically at war with the devils, right?"

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"Yes. They come and kill some people and cage some people. We try to poison them or shoot them full of arrows..."

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"I want to figure out how to get everyone in your world to at least agree to a truce."

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"If defense magic protects against devils I can throw money at defense mages and cover lots of people. They'll be terrified of anyone they can't control."

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"Yeah. We just need to figure out how to test it."

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"I - ugh. Am I the one you should be talking to about this if you want to do good? I. Think I might be evil."

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"Why do you think so?"

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"Said so earlier. Killed a lot of devils. They couldn't fight back at all... Poison."

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"I don't know if that makes you a bad person. It probably doesn't matter, though, you don't have to be a good person to bring peace."

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"It definitely makes me feel like I've hardly got any business planning to kill more people, this time with made up laws behind me!"

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"What are you worried about, enforcing the peace or something else?"

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"I'm not the right person for this, because when I got this magic power maybe the fourth thing I did with it was kill people and that is not something that someone you want making the rules - or enforcing them - does with their magic powers! It's just not."

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"Okay. Do you want to introduce me to someone else from your world, maybe one of your priests?"

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"Well, they're all... Well. Maybe. I don't know. I don't know what's best. It's not fun."

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"There are books and things you can learn from, I don't know if there are videos about this but I bet there are, but honestly it's just really hard to make good choices about big populations."

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Sigh. "Time is paused here anyway. Things aren't... Aren't getting worse if I sulk and think for a while."

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"Yeah. I might open my door before you're done unless you really want some time before my people start coming through."

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"...I'm gonna go take a nap. I'll come back later and maybe you'll still be here. Or not. Bar? Cheap room? Anything with a bed... Thanks." Sigh.

She's gotten used to sleeping alone, at least. Even if it always feels weird and vulnerable.

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When she's gone, he asks Bar what publications are available from her world. If any.

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With cultures as young as the ones in this world it can be somewhat tricky to draw the line. Most written things are meant for specific people, or for record-keeping among a private caste. I have a few declarations from governments, if you would like to read those.

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"That's better than nothing. Yes, please."

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By order of the Good King Phyklas the Strong, each village is required to provide thirty strong men for service in the army being assembled to defend the Saltlands from the King of Bones. If not enough men are available, the village may send goods and supplies worth not less than twenty silver coins in place of each man. To defend the realm is the duty of the people.

 

The High Council of Freshwater Bay proclaims glorious victory over the uncivilized tribes of Redrock and the lands beyond! Hail the great general Syarfis! Hail the brave sailors of Swordfish Group! All glory and honor is theirs as the stolen riches retreived from the defeated foe are returned to their rightful owners!

 

The vast lands of Hoskplain are populated by many and diverse peoples, but we all share a common heritage and common interests. Chief Senerital of the Boar Tusk Tribe invites all other tribes of the Hoskplain to join her at a great feast to be held at the summer solstice two years from now below the sacred place called Thunder Rock. She will distribute gifts and discuss the future of the Hoskplain. All are welcome!

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"How recent is that last one? I might want to meet Chief Senerital."

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Regrettably, it was published eighteen years ago and I have no way to tell how the feast went or if Chief Senerital is still alive.

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"Thanks anyway. Is this everything published there in the last few decades, then?"

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Yes. The first written work widely distributed enough that I may show it to you was written ninety-three years ago. It announced a queen's death in a place called Numiakra.

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"Can you get me published art?"

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Yes. Any particular requests?

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"Anything meant to depict factual events - I guess they wouldn't have anything that moves or talks, but still pictures of battles that happened, or of rulers - does Senerital have a recent portrait?"

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It would seem the people of the Hoskplain do not often use depictions of people in their art. I have a few things you might like to view, but several of them are wood-carvings, engraved jewelry, and the like. Would you like to see full-size replicas, or would pictures of them on paper suffice?

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"Replicas if they'll fit conveniently on the bar, pictures otherwise."

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Replica bracelet showing humans bowing to something non-human and giving it things. Picture of a large wood-carving of lots of people dancing around a fire with a body curled up inside the flames (That is a funeral, not an execution, comments Bar). Replica pot showing some kind of battle with spears and arrows. Picture of a wall where three large and dramatic figures are holding hands and facing a fourth one covered in spikes and dark colors. Miniature statue of a shirtless man fighting some kind of large reptile. Picture of wall art showing a woman planting trees, with a lush forest behind her.

The styles are all fairly crude, though artful and attractive in their own ways. The statue is the most realistic. The funeral is the most elaborate and detailed.

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"Do any of these come with, I don't know, titles or context or anything? The trees seem sort of promising, where is this?"

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All of these were made before writing was widespread. I can provide context if you have particular questions. That piece depicts the creation of a sacred forest by the Yalhu-wen people. They believe that having large and healthy forests is spiritually important, and celebrated the discovery of ways to reliably grow new ones. The figure is an image of the goddess Helawanuwesa.

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"Any sign that any of their gods would be good people to talk to about unifying their world?"

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I cannot vouch for people I have never met. I also cannot reliably tell whether deities exist. There are many worlds where they do, but there are also worlds where they seem to exist but are not real.

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"Yeah, that's... weird, I wonder if the worlds where they only think there are gods got their stories from worlds where there are gods... Anyway, I don't think I'm getting anywhere with this. Can you get me some recent news from my world?" He can catch up on that while time's paused and see if Lisara shows up again at some point.

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My apologies. I have access to so many worlds that it is difficult to make any reliable predictions about particular ones, though I am happy to speculate on a world's likely properties and contents.

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And then someone wanders in. Deeply tanned skin, looking about fifteen, wearing some kind of fancy dark grey and black uniform that she looks vaguely uncomfortable in.

"Eski. Hello? Is this delivery place? Nobody outside, looks abandoned."

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"Hi! This is Milliways, it eats doors to places in other universes. Temporarily. After you leave that door will go where it usually does."

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"...By Dolos, wild magic. And you're speaking Greek! It won't hurt me, you think?"

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"Bar tries not to hurt people, violence isn't allowed and so far Bar's been good about only offering me food that's good for me. I'm not speaking Greek, there's translation magic, but I think I might've heard the name 'Greek' for a language somewhere before..."

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"Food? Water, too, maybe? I was sent into a fu- A gods-damned jungle to make an 'urgent delivery' and they don't meet me at the halfway point like they said, I land and wait for an hour and then get a magic message 'unavoidable contingency, continue to destination'. I ask what, why, where? No answer. Could serve them right if I get lost and eaten by a tiger when I try to sleep, eh? No 'urgent delivery' for you."

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"...First drink's free, just ask Bar. I'm not the person you're delivering things to but it's possible I could ward you so you'd be safer on your trip."

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"Good to hear. Hm? You're a man. How can you ward things?"

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"By magic. Do only women do magic where you're from?"

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"Witches, yes. Women are witches every one in a thousand or so. Maybe more. I am one. Witches and wild magic. And maybe the Neuroi? They say they're not magic, though, just terrifying and deadly."

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"Worlds are different that way! In mine everyone can do one of the twelve kinds of magic. I bet your kind isn't one of those, though."

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"Worlds? ...Hmph. I wonder if I am having a strange dream from heat exhaustion. I read something like that in a novel. Not sure if it is a real thing. Perhaps the fantasy will provide me with a cool beverage made with pineapple."

She approaches Bar, and a cool beverage appears. It's tan. She sips. "Well, then. It's a pleasant fever dream if that is what is happening. Hello. I am Helas."

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"I'm Valanda, governor of Ira Sani."

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"A governor. Of a place I have never heard of. Because it's in another world. With different magic? Hokay, yes, everything is fine and makes perfect sense. Perhaps my extra ration tickets can buy me enchanted items that I can use to win the war single-handedly. Since my life is a novel now."

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"...Maybe. Tell me about your war?"

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"There is an enormous storm over a country that was large and rich before and is now ash and misery. From within it spill an endless tide of angular demon-things, shiny red and black. They emit invisible poison merely by existing, can fly fast enough to make thundercracks in the air if they wish, and split the skies themselves with beams of light that burns like fire! We fight them with bow and arrow, broomsticks, and improvised bombs. I need alcohol."

Regrettably, I am obliged to comply with the law of your place of origin in regards to serving alcoholic beverages.

"Seriously? Malaka."

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"I don't know if it'll work but I could try to ward you against their invisible poison."

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"Kind of you to offer. But I do not think it would do much good. Things are not quite so dire as I make them sound, hm? The bow and arrows were a decade ago. We have guns now. And better bombs. And faster brooms that are not even truly brooms anymore. And railroads and telegraphs and so many other things that make my head swim to think about. I just fly around and deliver things. They won't let me fight yet, even though I must kill those evil things with all my might as soon as I am able. It is infuriating."

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"Okay. If you're sure."

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"I am not sure. I don't know what you can do. But the miasma? That will not be what kills me if something does."

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"I can do wards against extreme temperatures and against magic. I can sort of do wards against injuries but they still don't work as well as the other ones and they're not really set-and-forget like the others. Also, I can make objects indestructible or impossible to enchant or really amazingly bad at conducting heat."

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She blinks slowly. "...Hokay. My superiors would be very excited to meet you."

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"Bar can lend you vehicles but someone from your world would have to hold the door open while you got them, if I hold it it'll lead to my world instead of yours and if no one holds it it'll just close and next time you come here the door will go somewhere else."

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"I am in the middle of untamed jungle and the ones I was meant to deliver several crates of supplies to are nowhere to be seen. I don't think that will be fast. I ought to at least try it. Or maybe just order some indestructible things and bring them back?" She looks uncertain. "Oh. I should make sure you are not lying. Should have thought of that immediately, but I'm very tired."

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"What kind of test do you want to do?"

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"How about you make something I have indestructible and I try to set it on fire and then shoot it with my bow. I don't mean to insult you, but... Boys can not do magic. They just can't. And enchanted items are myths and legends - they do not exist. But you can make a shield of Leonidas on a whim? My mind is reeling. So I need proof."

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"Sure, just show me what it is you want me to ward."

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"Uhh... I suppose my hat works well enough and is immediately available? Though I wonder how I am supposed to pay you... It's not like I carry my salary around with me, hm?"

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"I can ward your hat. Maybe you can do some of your kind of magic for me or something?"

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"Witch magic is mostly not the kind of thing you can take away or use for later. I can cast shields, fly on things designed for it, use manalight," with a flick of her fingers a few blue sparks flit through the air, "-Destroy things with very much manalight. And my special, unique individual magic, which is to mold stone as if it were clay."

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"I might have some uses for that last one. Also, I think if you have an account with a bank, you can access it through Bar."

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"I can?"

You can. Helas startles, but then reads the napkin. How would you normally identify yourself at your bank?

"My most recent set of orders and my rank papers."

If you show me those I can draw on your account from here. It will not appear abnormal to the bank.

"That is. Helpful."

I do try to be.

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"So if you want wards you can probably pay for at least a few. Lend me your hat?"

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"Yes, yes. I will empty my bank account for this. It would be criminal to leave here without any enchanted things. I think actually criminal. 'Failure to seize unique military opportunity'?" A hat is handed over. Her hair is scruffy, her hand trembles a bit.

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"So I can ward soft things like this a couple different ways, depending on whether it's important for them to stay soft. So I assume you don't want your hat to be diamond-hard but just to show you what I mean..." He hands it back. It doesn't behave like cloth.

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She grabs it awkwardly and tap-taps it on the furniture. She shivers. "I could not even feel you doing any magic, and now this thing which should be impossible... Ah, but clothes like this would be difficult, yes."

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"Yeah, I can also do clothes so they're more wearable. Let me show you?" He holds out his hand for the hat again.

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"Of course." She hands it back carefully. "Let me see how much money I even have, one moment..." And she starts digging through coat pockets. "Bah. I always seem to lose my papers. It is a flaw."

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"If you stay a while I'll eventually open the door to my world and there are some people who might appreciate being able to hire you for some stoneshaping. And like I said, I sometimes buy art, if you do statues."

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"I do not make statues. If I did they would be awful. When I got my magic I wanted to go fight the Neuroi, who are killing everyone and destroying my beautiful country. They would not let me, but I helped in other ways and did not waste much effort on art. I'll find my papers and see what is in my bank account eventually. If someone wants stone-shaping - I am allowed to freelance if it does not interfere with my duties, so that will work. Aha!"

She lays out some repeatedly-folded papers on Bar's surface.

You have access to a small fortune through this account. 

Bar gives the numbers in pounds sterling and rings. It's quite a lot for an individual, but less than the spending spree Lady Katherine went on to supply the New Dover project and the rest of her world.

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"You can get a lot of wards with that. Actually, you might want to spend some of it on new technology from Bar, too, but wards are cheap - Bar, you remember my usual prices, right? Can you tell us how much I charge in her currency?"

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Bar is happy to help with this.

Helas shakes her head and laughs quietly. "My shield of Leonidas, my Chracian breastplate, shall cost me as much as a basket full of fresh fruit. Truly the world is vaster and more wonderful than I ever realized."

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"Yeah, that sounds about right, depending on how big the basket is. I do hesitate to do armor because if you get hit hard enough to break it you... really want it to be the armor that breaks, I think, but you'd know better than I would."

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"I don't know enough about armor to contradict you on that. I know being knocked from atop a horse can kill you even in full plate. But 'unbreakable armor' is something very boast-worthy, no? Even better if it has a glorious story attached to it. Uniforms that will not burn, a shield sized to hold in one hand that will block attacks... These are more practical."

She shrugs.

"What else breaks that we would like not to, hm? The steam engines... There was a massive explosion of scalding horror when a Neuroi beam sliced a ship in two. That was... Not pleasant to witness. But I do not think unbreakable steel plates for machines would be useful, there would be no way to shape or mill or weld them..."

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"Maybe some kind of insulation that doesn't change temperature, I don't know. So you want your shield unbreakable and your uniform unburnable?"

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"I will have to buy a replica shield. Or perhaps a nicer-looking one that's close enough. I don't exactly carry it around with me. And I think I would like to buy crates and crates of uniforms from Bar and have you make all those unburnable too. I don't know how well it'll hold up to Neuroi weapons, but they seem to do more of their damage through heat than anything else."

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"I can do that. About how many uniforms would that be?"

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"Many hundreds. I will be staying for a month and learning what else this place can offer, too. I owe it to the procurement officers to make the most of this chance, no?"

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"Yeah, that's a smart plan. There's a lot here."

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She haggles out a fee and orders military uniforms from bar. Best to get this stuff out of the way.

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Some time later, Lisara comes back downstairs.

"Hi, Valanda! You're still here, huh? They've got nice beds here. I feel much better after a good nap."

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"Yeah, it's pretty nice here. And people keep coming in with lots of work for me."

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"That's 'cause you've got a useful magic power, like me, duh."

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"I think you could do other work here. I haven't tried because I didn't like the non-magic job I used to do but I don't think there's any reason it wouldn't work."

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"Probably. But I don't really need to work? I just want to make good use of the portals thing and I'm, you know, tense and a little worried and don't really have someone I feel like I can definitely trust who is also good at thinking big."

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"Yeah. I don't know how to fix that."

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"Yep. But doing nothing with them is wasting them! So, I figure can do things for people that seem like they're probably not a terrible idea and check up on what the results are! And if they do bad stuff with my portals or turn out to be idiots, well, now I know who not to trust."

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"That makes sense. Have you thought about what you want to try first?"

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"Put one between two big towns that are far apart and charge one copper piece to go through. Hire someone to keep watch over things and take the money. Nobody's gonna take the long way, and it'll be easier to get exotic goods. Then do the same thing in more places."

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"That sounds like a good plan. You might get diseases spreading more with more travel but you can probably deal with that with things you can get in Milliways."

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"That's part of the plan. I'm gonna ask Bar what books and other things are best to bring home to people who discovered bronze a while ago. And then I'm going to invite the two or three priests I actually like to hang out here learning things and writing things."

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"Sounds workable. Do you want my help for any of it?"

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"You're a governor, right? Learning how other worlds do governing could be useful!"

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"It really is, I studied from other worlds when I was starting out. I still study foreign books when I come here."

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"I don't know if anyone will think democracy is a good idea, but you probably have better ways of figuring out what's fair to pay in taxes, or whether criminals actually did anything, stuff like that. Books, huh? I still think reading is strange."

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"You probably don't want to borrow from us for figuring out whether people are guilty, we have magic that lets us watch things that happened in the past - not other worlds, if you don't let any of the wrong kind of mage into yours they can't retroactively spy on you - but Hyrule seems really well-run so you might want to learn from them."

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"Hyrule? That's not your world, is it? Sounds kind of similar, though."

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"Hyrule's the world I visited with the amphibious people and the very moral people. My world's Har. They're not much alike, except that humans can survive in both."

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"Okay. Maybe get advice from someone from Hyrule. And, spying on people? You've said a lot of things your world's magic can do, I think. How many kinds of magic do you have anyway?"

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"Twelve!" He enumerates them. "Anyway, we can get you books from Hyrule if you want, I want to ask you to make me a portal but it's dangerous enough there that maybe you shouldn't."

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"Kind of sounds like it, yeah. I'm not as afraid as I used to be, though." Shrug. "If a green mage wanted to come to my world they could live like a high priest, it'd be pretty great for food and medicinal herbs and stuff. And you can't get up to too much trouble with green magic, sounds like."

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"I think at worst you can selectively encourage poisonous plants. Or just get paid a lot and then use your wealth for evil. But yeah, they're not as dangerous as most mages."

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"Priests are pretty good at keeping wealth from doing too much evil. 'Course, they might not even want to come. Being rich in a place without any fancy things is almost like being poor again."

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"Yeah, that makes sense. I think some people might still want to, though."

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"And! We'll have more stuff soon if I have anything to say about it. I might go ahead and find Eksoi now. He's the priest I mentioned, who I trust pretty well. Get started on making things better and not dwelling on the past."

And she traipses off towards the backyard unless interrupted or stopped.

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"Can I come meet him?"

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"No offense or anything but you're from the world with crazy strong magic and you seem nice but Milliways has security. I'll be right back."

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"Sure, see you."

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A few minutes later, she's back with a middle-aged balding man who looks in over his head.

"...And this is it!"

"I see. So it's... A meeting place for magical people?"

"Something like that? I'm not sure. Maybe not always magic people, but interesting people?"

"Interesting to whom? And I'm the one you think is best suited to deal with it, dear? You know I'm getting on in years..."

"The leadership in the capital are loud and always sure they're right and have these annoying subtle fights with each other about who's the most important and care about those more than actually leading people well. You're actually nice, you fix things without making fun of anyone or getting angry, you always did your best for us in Forwyd."

Eksoi grimaces. "That's called 'politics', young lady. I am not the best at it, even with advantages like your favor and the books you say this place has."

"...Yeah. But I trust you. The guys just looking to prove themselves right, or get rich, o-or kill all devils..."

Eksoi's expression softens a bit. "I'll try my best, of course. Though I'm not quite clear on what exactly you want me to accomplish here."

Lisara shrugs and approaches Bar, and says, "What do you think you should accomplish here? Ah, this is Valanda!"

 

...Introductions: Those he can do without feeling uncertain. "Hello, Governor Valanda. I am Eksoi, priest of Forwyd. I understand you're becoming fast friends with my old neighbor Lisara. Well met."

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"Well met. I assume you've heard about my magic and my world from Lisara?"

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"She mentioned it, though she, er, explained a lot of things very fast and I'm sure I missed some nuance. It seems we might be able to hire someone to make crops grow faster?"

(Lisara asks Bar for a new treat, feeling pleased with herself, and is presently enthralled with a bowl of ice cream.)

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"Yeah, I can help you find someone when I open my door. I've been waiting to do that because time is paused in my world while I leave the door closed and I like taking advantage of that."

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"Fyrni's beard. Stopping time, as if we were gods. So in terms of potential resources - Lisara's portals, books and tools from Bar which I need to transliterate before bringing back, people from Har with one of the twelve kinds of power who may or may not be badly behaved or have different expectations of society, possible lessons on running things from a world called Hyrule, the possibility of yet further worlds not yet discovered, am I missing anything major?"

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"I think that's everything unless you want to count movies separately from books. I can try to help you figure out how a green mage will have different expectations than you do."

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"And I will get Lisara to compensate you for your valuable consulting services. She's not likely to think of it, to be honest." He glances over. "Does she seem... Alright, to you?"

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"No, she seems sad and afraid and bitter and overwhelmed."

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"Yes. I'm not sure how to help her. She saw gruesome and terrible violence done to her neighbors, helped commit gruesome and terrible violence in retaliation, was pushed into overwhelming sudden fame, and then vanished for months - anything could have happened in that time - and doesn't like to talk about it. And she's - young."

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"I don't know either. I wonder if her alts could, but I don't know if meeting them would just be more worrying - sometimes different worlds have some of the same people, I've met two others of her before."

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He blinks. "I think that would probably be helpful, actually."

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"I can let the one in my world know one of her alts could use someone to talk to when I open my door. The other one's in Hyrule, the world with the evil god and creatures that go around trying to kill people - it's very nice for having all that, beautiful nature, nice people except the evil ones."

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Evil god and creatures that go around trying to kill people: Doesn't even sound that strange, just unpleasant.

"I find that most societies have nice people except for all the evil ones. I don't know their stories, but Lisara strikes me as the kind of person who would get along well with more of her."

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"Yeah, I'm just worried about... dangling the version of her who lives in my state in front of her, I don't know, it seems like it could end up feeling like some kind of power thing to her."

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"I don't know the story here, I met you five minutes ago, what exactly are you picturing going wrong?"

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"Nothing really, I just... I think I spooked her a little, my world has a lot of magic that can be used to coerce people and I think she's touchy about that. And I don't know if she'll expect it to be some kind of trick to get her to let her guard down or... I don't know."

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"Yes, command mages. They are terrifying. We have devils to worry about back home, she's afraid of them too. Saying 'I thought I would introduce you to the other you' and explaining how you know her and then letting the other Lisara speak for herself should be fine? I can introduce the idea if you'd prefer... Incidentally, I would like a command ward for her and I, and do you think you could attempt a devil ward? Would a failure there do nothing, or potentially do something dangerous?"

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"I can do those wards for both of you. I expect I can do a devil ward, and it's not likely to have any risks over and above warding you against command magic. It should probably fail gracefully. I don't know how sure you want to be before you try it, though."

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"I think that is an experiment to be tried on me and not her. I am older and less valuable. I don't see any scenarios where I am exposed to a hostile devil - or a cooperative one - soon, but it seems worth having done in case it comes up, and if it doesn't make me fall over dead I can get you to do it on some of our warriors, they'll be able to tell soon enough."

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"Sounds like a good plan. I'm curious enough about whether my wards work against devils to do the first few for free if you'll tell me what happens when they get tested."

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He smiles sardonically. "I don't expect money to be the most significant problem for her or my goals for the next... While. I'm already thinking about how to set up her toll-portal idea. But thank you. And - I'm not sure keeping people from Har out of our world for fear of what they could do with power is an ideal course in the long term. That seems like it would end up with everyone's movement restricted more than necessary, but I can't think of any good ways to keep us from ending up with a force mage pirate king or a structure mage poisoner."

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"We avoid that by all being so powerful that people considering it know they'll get killed really horribly if they try, and so rich they can just work a job to buy whatever they'd want to steal with their force magic. I can make certain places or things immune to force magic and of course if you hire a knowledge mage to check whether your food is safe a poisoner might bribe them but might not and you can hire a couple different ones if you want. You can choose which mages to bring in first - a mage can't undo another mage's spell, usually, so you can get everything hidden and warded before you invite lots of people in. You might also want to have some really powerful weapons and keep them hidden but let people know they exist."

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"A trustworthy information mage plus portals plus a reasonably strong weapon of some kind should suffice as a credible threat to powerful people breaking the rules. Unless they're a god. But we're used to being afraid of gods. I don't know where to get a trustworthy information mage, though."

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"I guess you probably don't want to trust my recommendations and I don't know any who are the kind of trustworthy you probably want. I'd consider hiring two and keeping them from talking to each other to get their stories straight."

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"Well, there is time for that later. We can improve things without importing mages too. I think I should introduce Lisara to the other her and then get reading, for now."

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"Okay. Will you be okay with all my friends from my world coming in?"

If he doesn't object to that then Valanda will open the door.

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...The priest from another world goes and meets the security officer for a minute, but doesn't object.

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Valanda opens the door, sits down in the doorway, and sends someone to discreetly invite Liane, Katherine and Nikolas.

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Katherine Cromwell is there the quickest.

"Hello, Governor. As I expected, Milliways is back again. I should probably think about what to do if the imperial government gains access to it after all..."

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"Good idea. There's an alternate universe version of Liane here, from a world with some problems."

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"Liane? ...Ah, the scout. And now test pilot. Perhaps I should get to know both versions more since apparently the world thinks they're interesting. What sort of problems?"

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"People with something similar to command magic who their governments can't keep in check and who don't seem to have much interest in morality."

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"I assume someone has already suggested attempting a defense magic ward for it. Depending on how it works we could try to give them something to lose if they keep slaves - offer technology or other magic services contingent on good behavior, or similar. Or try to submit them all command magic not to use it on an unwilling person. Dangerous if you miss a loophole in that and I'm not sure I fully understand the nuances of command magic, though."

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"A binding against using magic is pretty simple, those have been tested over and over and over, but you'd have to get to everyone. Same problem with defense magic, we have to get to enough of the possible victims, and we don't know for sure that it'll work against their magic until it's been tested."

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"We can choose the best available solution instead of holding out for a perfect one. Justice is not all-seeing and all-powerful, in my experience. You merely do the best you can. Should I refrain from talking to her and her... Companion?"

Unspoken question: Mentor, father, other relative? They know each other and are from the same place. She can't tell more without more observation.

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Shrug. "Might want to talk to him first, if you're going to talk to them. She seems overwhelmed."

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"Having spent a few months certain we were all going to freeze to death soon, I recognize that body language. Yes. I also have a wish list for my engineer friends, so I'll just pop over and have a chat with Bar and him for now, unless there's anything else I need to know? And some tea. Keeps things civilized."

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"Good idea."

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She goes over and talks to Eksoi quietly.

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Suddenly, Nik is here!

"If I approach it right I think she'd help me return some things that really ought to not be in Har, but I brought along anyway just in case. Dangerous stuff. Cursed mirror, a hellstone, that kind of thing. I've barely used most of the magic stuff from home, really. It's too unreliable."

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"...Where would you put them?"

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"Hellstone goes back to the line of guardians destined to guard it. Cursed mirror goes to the stinking Arsenal. They may hunt vampires, but they're pretty good at locking dangerous stuff up. Rest of it goes to a mediocre druid who I owe a few."

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"That sounds reasonable. She's had bad experiences with people wanting to use her magic but I think mostly because they wanted to use it to kill people."

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"Well, the hellstone is nasty. It was so I could credibly threaten to cause a lot of damage in case the government wanted to kill me. Glad I didn't need it. Putting it back somewhere safe should be alright. Plus, I can be pretty charming and pay well if I try."

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"You don't need that threat anymore?"

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"The calculus has changed. I'm a productive member of the economy now, there are other losses included in executing me. And the hellstone has a nonzero chance of dragging everyone in a city-sized area into a nightmare dimension. Can't destroy it, can lock it up and forget about it but I'm not totally sure it couldn't... Break itself out. Witchcraft is nasty."

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"Uh. Yeah. Yeah, good call sending it somewhere else, I hope the other world isn't in too much danger from it."

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"That's me, your friendly everyday vampire who'd happily take an extremely tiny risk of torturing some people forever to be a bit safer." He grins. Shows off fangs.

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"Forever?"

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"Well I don't know how hells work, but that's the usual mythology. Repent, foul sinner! Get thine ass to heaven through thoughts and prayers!"

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"Yeah, that sounds disproportionate. I guess it's good that you had something, though."

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"Yep. Now if only anyone had ever heard of a resurrection ritual that didn't have some arbitrary limitation."

Sigh.

"Rest in peace, Roger Davies. If anything remains of you at all."

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"Would that work to empty all the hells, if we had that?"

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"...It's not like I can stop her. Some possible hells it would definitely be a terrible idea to try. But some hells that might work, and the thing is, we don't know enough about hells and I don't know a safe way to find out more."

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"...Maybe some of them have published books? Have you tried that?"

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He freezes in place.

"...I have not tried that. We should go try that."

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"Did you catch that, Bar?"

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You will need to be a bit more specific than 'written works from hells'.

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"Worlds that torture lots of people, especially people who came from other worlds that were less bad, especially if they got there by dying."

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He ends up with the most recently published nonfiction from a few worlds meeting that description.

There's a math textbook written by people who seem to think understanding algebra consists of memorizing the sets of values that constitute solutions to polynomial equations.

There's a newspaper with articles about the construction of a new ice rink, the resignation of a mayor, and a call for volunteers to be flogged in public to appease their overlords who are cracking down on the endemic failure to actually torture people.

There's a book about the most private and embarrassing thoughts and memories of this one guy who was apparently forced to write and publish it.

There's a newspaper with articles about plans to invade a nicer universe, about a recent game of kitten football, and about the unpopularity of an increase in the severity of the chronic pain being inflicted on everyone there.

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"Second one seems promising. Third and fourth sound... Troubling, but civilized. Hmm. And that math textbook is diabolical. Math textbooks get a bad rap in my world, but something like this is either designed for beings with a vastly different mental architecture than humans, or actively malicious."

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"I guess that explains why I can't understand it. I don't think I want to visit the world where they don't let people have privacy, I don't even want them to know about us if we can help it. We should figure out who's enforcing the torture in the nice hell and who's getting in their way - it might be someone moral and powerful, that'd be good. And we should find out how this one's invading places and whether they stand a chance if they find us. Might go faster if we each pick one, do you want to read about the nice one or the bad one?"

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"Trust me, this thing is worse than useless. Examples of sets can help when learning, maybe, but- Endless awful High School as Hell would make a surprising amount of sense. Anyway, I might be better equipped to understand stuff about the good world than you, but I don't actually care. Though, we have to consider that there are probably so many hells it might do more good in an absolute, chain-reaction down-the-line sense to find some stone age primitives and teach them the germ theory of disease. I dunno."

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"Anyone who has the ability to keep dead people alive or invade other worlds is of interest to us even if helping them isn't the way to help as many people as possible. I want their magic."

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"Aha, misread the situation. Well, with only a few data points, seems like magic keeps working in other worlds but can't be taught or spread, mostly."

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"That's why we might need to make some friends or get some people to owe us some favors. Wait, did you end up testing whether you can spread yours?"

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"Well, I know I can turn humans but that really seems like a bad idea on several levels unless someone really old really wants to not die. I don't have any spare daywalking rings for example, so they'd die in sunlight. Haven't done experiments."

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"Yeah, it wouldn't be a good idea, just good to know about."

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"Argue with Dover's doctor-priests about informed consent and human trails and get back to me after they shut up in two decades maybe."

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"I heard they'd gotten in the way of a lot of science but mostly not... obviously useful science done to volunteers."

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"Yeah, mostly not. There was this guy who wanted people to have babies with random genes turned on or off. Lovely image, isn't it?"

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"...Maybe if you kill the ones that don't turn out well."

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"But babies are people too, don't you know. Then again, it's a woman's choice what she does with her body I s'pose. God, that reminds me of home. That debate was unpleasant...."

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"...I guess it doesn't matter that they can't use magic immediately... no, it does, they have it and they can't use it, it's not like in your world."

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"They'd disagree that magic makes a person. The Dovites would too. My squishy moral feelings resemble a dried fig now but I recall the same reaction."

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"Why not, if you could do it and just can't intend things the right way?"

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"A person is a pattern, a mind, not a set of abilities. Magic oughn't enter into it at all. This is an old argument, though, I recall you felt uncomfortable at the very same thing the first time we met so perhaps I ought to drop it."

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Shrug. "I'll get a book about it or something."

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Lady Katherine breaks off her quiet conversation with the priest, where he is accumulating a shopping list and project plan.

"I've read some interesting fiction one of our young men came up with - probably inspired by something that actually exists out there - about an automaton so complex and intelligent that it can invent things, that it has preferences and enjoys art. Its owners found every excuse to deny that the machine was a person, despite other characters trying to convince them. They had paid for it, you see. They compared the whole thing to the process of eliminating slavery in Britain. It's very well-written."

Nik almost smiles. "Good abolitionist fiction is rare, but if you're recommending it... What's the title?"

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As they talk, Liane careens into view on the other side of the door. "Yo, Valanda! Milliways once again!"

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"Hi, Liane, I'm glad you made it. There's another you who might want to talk to you."

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"Neat! Link was fun. You need anything or can I hop on over?"

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"She could use an alt to talk to sooner than later."

He gets out of the doorway and shuts it.

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"Hey. I'm you. So weird, isn't it?"

"...Yeah."

"I used to have this really awesome metal arm. And leg. I got my real ones back with magic from Har, though."

"If the metal ones were 'awesome', then why go back?"

"Well, they looked cool and were better than stumps, but weren't actually... Good at doing stuff. I lost them to nearly freezing to death two separate times. Arm up to the elbow and leg almost to my hip."

Lisara winces.

"It was awful. But it was also worth it. The world was ending, more or less, and I had to help. I saved people, as a scout. I didn't really know what I was doing for sure... But I did the best I could."

"Well. I'm glad that worked out for you."

Pause.

"You're me, so I know you don't wanna admit you're having a bad time. But it's alright, you know? You're trying your best. People have bad times. I wanna help you, whatever you need."

Liane hugs Lisara. Lisara cries quietly, and they have a whispered conversation that ends with "Let's go sit by the lake and talk about it. Sound good?"

"...Yeah."

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Lady Katherine finds a stopping point in her conversation with the bronze-age priest somewhere between explaining germ theory and the relative benefits of centralized and decentralized political power, at least as far as she sees them. (Extremely broadly: Centralized power is very good at solving big problems, and very bad at solving small problems.)

She goes back over to Valanda. "I'm going to run for Governor. Running all of Ira Sani with the same vision makes more sense than attempting to build separate rules for New Dover, and I think I am up to the challenge and can do good things with it. I've read the official duties and powers but can you tell me a bit more about any unofficial arrangements and relations I might be walking into, possibly give me a sense of what to expect if I am successful?"

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"I... really feel like I don't know this well enough myself, but I guess I've done okay so far. The most important thing, which isn't likely to come up during your term, is that it's just not done to hold state and imperial elections in the same year. That shouldn't come up unless something happens to someone holding imperial office but that sometimes happens. The imperial government right now is really risk-averse and things were... not perfect, but fine, especially for the kinds of people who end up in charge, so all the change worries them, but I think they're tentatively optimistic about the idea of morality. They'll prevent war but that doesn't mean they'll prevent other states from doing things that might hurt you indirectly. Anavel Sani is mostly ruled by the clans and I'm trying to keep them from establishing enough power here to take over but it's hard since I keep building caralendar-sized buildings and speaking Ilan. I don't know what else you need to know, maybe if you have specific questions..."

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She nods sharply. "Conservatism in government is familiar to me. The clans are a possible concern but it seems like they have a history of working with governments, so, a long-term one. We have tens of thousands of people who lived in the United Kingdom less than two years ago who are mostly planning on having a lot of children. We have a great concentration of technical expertise both medical and engineering. I hear the Mercy people are making rapid progress on methods to resist human aging through the expedient of borrowed books, and even testing some of them on volunteers. That's a lot of power, if... Sort of undirected. I am not the Queen, and even she did not dictate her citizens' lives very much. Indirect harm like - setting laws that will make it harder to trade there? Making it inconvenient for people to visit? Trying to undercut our businesses? Things like that?"

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"Yeah, all of that, I think. Or their people wasting your time and then backing out of deals and leaving you to find someone else. Or a lot of things."

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"I'll try not to plan any major inter-state infrastructural projects, then." She smirks slightly. "There's a lot that feels uncertain right now. I've been trying very hard to handle our internal issues, well, internally. To keep the imperial government calm about us. Paying off mages who people stiffed and castigating them in private, things like that."

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"...Can we afford to put more on your plate right now or should I stay on a few more years?"

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"I will relinquish infeasible goals when I have too many things to do. People will break the law, they always do. I have to prioritize. It'd be... Awful if anyone I brought here got themselves made into slaves. I tried to get many people who aren't really the type and few who are, but still." Sigh. "There are some people I trust not to be idiots. Now that the initial contact is over we can afford some incidents, but it is going to be painful when someone I helped immigrate is too stupid for their own good and keeps racking up debts and becomes a slave or is just executed. There are five budding charities collecting funds to buy slaves and try to give them better lives in New Dover, you know. I'm - happy they feel so strongly about it - but one of them will be too lenient and get themselves in trouble when their rescues misbehave, or too harsh because it's the done thing here and it's easy to fall into that pattern of thought - prisons made the inmates do work, free labor - and I'll have to be watching for that too. But as I said, priorities. And delegation. There are some people I trust not to be massive idiots. A few of them even think they're really in charge."

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"Oh? Who?"

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She rattles off half a dozen names, including the priest who came through with the first batch of immigrants, the head of the Order of Mercy's Ethics Committee, and Captain Edwards (who organized New Dover's docks, wrote a book on airspace procedures and liases with the imperial government about all the newfangled airships flying around, and deals with the imperial fisheries tax for all New Dover's fishermen, among other things).

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He recognizes some of those names.

"I like what I've heard about those people but I wouldn't expect half of them to be able to fill your shoes in terms of keeping relations with New Dover frictionless."

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"Not really, no. I might-" She glances around despite being in Milliways and thus immune to information magic. "I might ask Miss Lisara for a secret way out. Cooperation with the imperial government will do long-term good and spiriting people they want to punish away would be extremely aggravating. But... Just in case."

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"...If there's any chance of those people coming back it'll be a problem."

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"With Milliways in play, we can't categorically rule it out. But unlikely to come up, I think. What I would really want is some sort of - learnable magic."

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"That sounds like it would change things a lot and maybe scare the imperial government."

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"How exactly depends on too many details that are not knowable in advance. Instead I shall focus on campaigning for governor and prodding my people into being productive and peaceful members of Har's economy."

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"Good, thank you."

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"Do you know any green mages who might enjoy being very rich in a lower-magic setting?"

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"Maybe, yeah, but I don't know how much I trust any of them with Milliways. I guess that might matter less with Lisara."

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"A direct portal between worlds without a stop in Milliways is what I was imagining, yes. It seems they plan to start simple and import a green mage or two, plus technology, and move on from there in a year."

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"I wonder if they'd want some of your people to help them maintain the technology they want."

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"Perhaps I can find some men who would be happy about their significantly more relaxed attitudes towards sex and families," she says dryly. "That's a peculiarity of ours I am well aware of."

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"You're not the only people who feel that way, in Hyrule they think marriage and families are important too. Maybe less than you."

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"It's a little hard to tell what the multiversal attitudes are like. I suspect Milliways is filtering who it shows to us in some fashion or another... As to engineering consultants, I think Mr. Grasnik might do well. He would think rather highly of himself for - educating the primitives - which is slightly problematic, but he is intelligent enough and would jump at the fantasy of finding himself lots of young, tanned lovers... Which would be a dire insult among my people and not something I would enjoy but," Shrug. "Not inherently problematic."

"I really do want to secure some kind of permanent route out of Har. Probably back to our version of Earth. Perhaps in one of the utility spaces below the city, the more hidden ones. A 'just in case' sort of thing. I'll have to discuss it with Lisara, she doesn't know us yet and might prefer not to allow New Dover in general such free movement, but even before that I'm not really sure what the best idea for it is."

Pause.

"...Actually, now I'm worried Liane would get Lisara to open such a route without any kind of precautions. I should go find them."

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"Yeah, that'd be bad, please do. I assume I'd just be in the way if I went with you."

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"Not necessarily. You know Har, and Liane likes you, come or stay as you please. Last I saw them they were outside by the lake." She stands up.

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He follows her.

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You can tell which one is which because Liane is fully adult and has a slightly larger frame. And is wearing a snazzy leather jacket and pants instead of an embroidered dress-like thing. She's oohing and aahing at a bunch of portals that look like they open high above strange landscapes while Lisara sits quietly, slightly amused.

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He waves and smiles at them both but lets Katherine take the lead.

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"Hello, you two. I wanted to talk about portals into Har if now is a good time."

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Liane spins around, grin fading to a more neutral smile. "Might as well close 'em, little me. Clean up after yourself, yeah?"

Lisara rolls her eyes. "Yeah, yeah." The portals close.

"You don't want wild portals into Har because the imperial government would freak the hell out."

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"They really would. They're already not happy about Milliways, I think."

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"Not freaking a government out is kind of a stupid reason to avoid doing something if it's harmless."

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"Think of it like - opening a brand new window into someone's house. They don't know how your portals work. They don't know who or what might come through, and they want to be able to control it, to feel secure."

Lisara seems confused.

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"Uh, they don't so much do privacy in the Firsyd. Putting a ladder up next to the palisade wall might make more sense as an analogy? It'll make them feel unsafe and vulnerable. They might try to burn the ladder, they might try to hunt down whoever put it there and imprison 'em..."

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"...Well, you're the me who knows that place. And you're older. But still, then we oughta explain how portals work and maybe work out a place to put one under wards or something!"

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"That might work. What kind of wards were you thinking?"

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"Whatever wards they want so they feel safe having a portal and not like it's a ladder over a palisade?"

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"So that's going to be awkward because the kinds of things it's easy to specify to a spell aren't the same as the kinds of things they'd care about. They'd care about people obeying Hari law and not starting a war and it might, maybe be possible for a knowledge mage to check current intent, but I don't think anyone knows how to do that now so it'd take some research, and it wouldn't work on anyone who was under an illusion, and I'm pretty sure it's actually impossible to check whether someone is going to forget a law or do something impulsive. It might be more doable to restrict what kinds of people and things can come through the portals, or how many at a time, or something, but I'm not sure how to guarantee safety that way."

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She frowns. "So... They're paranoid and just want to be left alone? Then leave 'em alone."

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"I don't think that's a permanent solution. Milliways exists and likes at least three people who live there. You have portal powers, and it seems likely that other things can cross between worlds and they'll run into one of those sooner or later. And both they and other worlds could benefit from trade - and travel to and from hasn't been disastrous in the few times Milliways showed itself so far."

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Lisara throws up her hands. "So, what? You're all terrified of what they'll think, what they'll do. Why don't you just go talk to 'em? They're not devils and you can have wards against the, uh-"

"Command magic," Liane supplies.

"Yeah, that."

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"I bet if I'm not mistaken I can have a representative here in a couple minutes if someone holds the door for me. If we decide talking to them is the way to go."

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"If the imperial government gets a Milliways door, that opens up all sorts of worrisome possibilities since anyone or anything can come through Milliways. We have a little city in that world, I don't know how much Liane told you but we're trying to - be a good example of a moral society since the current government's laws encourage slavery and so on - but anyway, I wouldn't worry so much if they had control of one of your portals to some unoccupied place and could interact with whoever else through that. They wouldn't like that you could technically close it and open it somewhere else whenever you wanted, but then not doing that will make them trust you a bit more."

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Lisara groans and puts her head in her palms. "Politics. What do you think, other me?"

"...Something could go wrong, but something could always go wrong. Probably worth it if Kat and Valanda come up with a good plan."

"Fine. Come up with a good plan and I'll talk to them and put a portal, if you want. Ward me up a whole bunch first, though."

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"Sure, I can do whatever wards seem sensible once we have a plan. Do you two want to be part of talking about it or just leave me and Katherine to it?"

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"Let's stay and listen, Lis. We'll already know it when it's go time."

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"So, Valanda, what is the objective, exactly? What does it look like if we come up with a magically brilliant plan and get everything we want out of this?"

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"I think... I want precedent for peaceful diplomatic relations between the empire and some other independent polity. It's never happened and I think a peace that depends on being able to crush or absorb all opposition is weaker than a peace that depends on being able to crush or absorb or make peace with it. But making that happen at all would be really fraught. The other things I want are... for any people who feel like it was a mistake to move to New Dover, or like it was the best choice they had but they'd rather have better choices, to leave for somewhere better, at a time of their own choosing, before anything bad happens because of their presence. And for Lisara's people to be okay, maybe by bringing peace to her world, maybe by sending a couple mages to enchant things for them, maybe by teaching them new technology. And I definitely don't want to have to worry that someday Lisara will make portals into Har without warning me, without asking for any advice about where to put them, and we'll go to war over it and the imperial government will think I should have prevented it or warned them and then I might be in trouble and... it would be bad. But even if I talk Lisara out of making portals, someone might make some someday, and then I'm back to wanting precedent."

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"Some of these goals might be separable If we convince Liane and Lisara that random portals into Har are a bad idea, that makes the rest of it easier - Lisara's people are going to be far better off than before because of Milliways and technology no matter what we do. But a lot ties into - an example of peaceful diplomatic relations. So I suppose the question now is, how do we make diplomatic relations peaceful? Make it very hard for either side to attack each other? I might not have an easy answer for that one."

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"I like the idea of warding the portals but I don't think there are spells that do what we want. According to the history I learned, when the empire has let people live it's been because they were too powerful to exterminate, so Lisara's world might not be a good choice, if we get to choose, but on the other hand they probably won't scare the imperial government as much since they're not much of a threat yet..."

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"My own country doesn't have much of a history of long-term peace, or I might have better suggestions..."

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Sigh. "Yeah. Other worlds have a lot more wars. Or maybe just worlds we've seen, maybe Bar has books from somewhere..."

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"Books about how a warlike society eventually achieved peace? Quite possibly. Probably, even. But the circumstances won't be exactly the same even if we can take some insights."

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"They might have... examples of peaceful arrangements without a single central government. If we're lucky. Then we'd have ideas for what to suggest. But we still have to make that seem like a better idea than conquest, and... Lisara's world has people with something worse than command magic that we don't know if defense magic can protect against. I bet it does, but maybe we just want to make the portal so only Hari species can cross it and ideally so magic can't be done to things on the other side without going there in person. That'd let their humans visit us, but not the other ones, and their humans aren't mages. Mostly. I think. People might feel mostly safe if only non-mages can come visit us, and knowing there are the other kinds of mages on the other side might make people think twice about going there... but I'm not sure, it's just a thought."

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"Encouraging some kind of positive-sum interaction, even a very limited one, seems like the kind of thing to try. We can't just go being terrified of what the imperial government will do forever. Two historical ideas I recall are hostages and what I call standoff negotiation. If someone important to each government is invited cordially - or forced not so cordially - to live in the care of the other government, there's a reason to resolve conflicts peacefully lest they kill your hostage. Standoff negotiation was done in the historical past a lot. It's a way of negotiating trade that happened sometimes in ancient times. Each side would leave things on the ground and back off beyond rock-throwing range to let the other side inspect the goods, then the other side would leave their proposed payment and back off so the first side can see if they like it, and so on like that. I'm not sure if we can take anything from that except perhaps creating a neutral zone on some unoccupied planet and conducting negotiation and business there? A place where neither side can lose anything they don't put there."

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"Well, I don't think the imperial government would mind taking hostages, but... a neutral place could be better but in practice I expect anywhere like that would be Lisara's and she's not really neutral. Unless we could go through Milliways, but I'm not sure that's any better than a portal straight into Lisara's world. Maybe worse."

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"How about - We know Lisara's portal power is a potential threat, and a vector of exposure to all sorts of other potential threats. However, Lisara does not want to start a war, or harm the Hari empire, or have her own state join the empire. To show that we can operate in good faith, Lisara offers to open a portal between a point on Har of your choosing to an unoccupied planet where you can set up whatever wards you want without any other portals being present until you are ready. Then, she will open a portal in a pre-designated spot in the unoccupied planet. The result will be a neutral meeting ground where Har and representatives of the other world can discuss things. Lisara could close the portal between Har and the neutral ground, cutting the empire off, and the empire's wards could prevent any wrongdoing from reaching into Har itself. In this place, discussions can take place and agreements can be made without either side being directly threatened."

"The other thing they might suggest would be command magic on Lisara to not open any portals into Har's universe except under specific conditions. But command magic is-"

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"No."

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"I don't think using command magic on her is a good idea. But how is it not threatening people if they go to negotiate or trade and Lisara could leave them stranded there?"

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"Because their web of wards and spells could threaten whoever came to negotiate or trade with them, too."

She glances at the Milliways building.

"Perhaps our friendly vampire's technology can work through portals? That might help. One thing at a time, though."

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"That might help, yeah. And it's possible we can make something work with illusions and scrying, I'm just not sure what yet. I still think this would give Lisara a lot of power but it might work out okay."

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"Anything that limits Lisara enough that she doesn't have more power over the situation in some ways would have unacceptable other consequences or be unacceptable to her, I think."

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"Yeah. Okay. I think I can sort of see how we'd do this, but we probably want to talk to a knowledge mage about whether they can see the kinds of magic people in Lisara's world have before we get the imperial government in on it. And Lisara wanted wards."

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"...What kinds of magic people in her world would have? Sorry, I don't quite understand what you mean there."

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"So, it'll matter to the imperial government whether they can ask one of their knowledge mages what kind of magic someone they're talking to has. And it'll matter whether we could, say, set up something that would only let people through if they didn't have a specific kind of magic, or something, and the only way I can think of that we could do that is if knowledge magic can tell."

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"Aha. Yes, that's something we would like to know. I think miss Dareni is the most convenient knowledge mage? 'No magic' could be a valid parameter even if they can't identify strange foreign kinds of magic, maybe. Though it needs testing."

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"Yeah, I expect Dareni can do it if anyone can. Are we ready to get her and an imperial representative?"

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"Yes. Part of me wants to continue to be cautious and make plans... But I think I have a blind spot of sorts, where I have gone out of my way not to interact too much with imperial representatives directly. I think just talking to the imperial government like reasonable people will be useful. With some kind of precaution so they don't end up with a Milliways door yet."

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"What sort of precaution were you thinking?"

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"I and whoever else travels to meet them while Liane holds the door. Though - if they want to control the door as an exercise in threat-reduction, knowing Lisara exists might make it less urgent for them? Ack. I'm doing it again. We should just talk."

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"They might demand the door."

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"Then perhaps we should ask why, and ask what they will accede to in exchange, after mentioning that Lisara can create portals as well and emphasizing that Milliways does, apparently, turn out high-power people and have categorically sufficient security. They won't start trouble, I think. They're not stupid."

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"Okay. We can try that."

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"When two groups treat each other with fear, bad things happen. Let's get Dareni in here to check whether she can see other kinds of magic on people and then go. Sound good?"

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"Sounds good, yeah."

He opens the door and sends someone to go look for Dareni.

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The vampire is suddenly here. It's uncanny. "I'll fetch her. I don't want you two to start a war and ruin all my investments."

Out he goes.

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"...Much as it is convenient, appearing like that is rude. And I don't care if he hears it."

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That sounds like an excellent idea. She'll just grab her most recent lost books wishlist and they can get going.

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Nick seems anxious and impatiently offers a ride to speed things up.

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She'd love one.

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Zoom, zoom, zoom... And now they are in Milliways again. "They want your consulting services on a matter of potentially grave import. Not to ruin the mood or anything."

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"Grave import, huh. Okay, then. Who should I be talking to about it?"

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"Valanda and Miss Katherine Cromwell are taking the lead on this."

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"We want to know if knowledge mages can see what sort of magic people who are native to other worlds have, or whether they have any," says Valanda.

"You mean worlds besides Old Dover? I can tell they don't have any."

"Yeah, worlds besides that. We have some people here you could take a look at."

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"One of them has - a fairly alarming magic. I shouldn't explain any more so we can properly see if you can tell. We're trying to figure out how to talk to the imperial government without anything unfortunate happening. They're in the back yard. Shall we?"

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She goes. She looks.

"Yeah, that's alarming. I wonder if we can ward places against portals. Have we tried that yet?"

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"We have not unless Valanda did when I wasn't paying attention? No? Then let's do it. By the way, she's an alt of someone I know. Lisara of Forwyd, alt of Liane the scout. More of an adventurer than anything else but she's good-hearted."

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"Alts are a weird concept. Do you need me to help with testing?"

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"We might want your insight, but we'll come get you if so. We have to come up with appropriate tests first."

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"I think the tests to start with would be the common wards against unwelcome magic, see if they work by default, and if not then we try something specifically for the portals."