They are in the basement.
"Still, mummys are nice."
She really doesn't know much about that!
"So, what do you like?"
Oh, like what she likes on recess!
She likes games! Sometimes she tries playing not allowed games though, which is bad.
"I'm up for whatever you are."
She can give some examples of not bad games! None of them are presented in a way to be at all competitive, though some can involve a kind of 'try to achieve a goal' or 'everyone tries to achieve a goal together'. (You can toss a ball around according to various patterns! You can cross the yard in various kind of movement! You can close your eyes and try to walk to a particular person or place in the yard! If you get a bucket of water you can try to pass it around the yard without spilling any! You can try to keep a ball in the air as long as you can!)
"You like swimming at all?"
Curl in just a little. "Didn't like it when we fell in."
"Well, most things aren't fun when you didn't choose it."
She thinks about this.
"Is there a fun swimming? We never did swimming on recess. Just lesson."
"I think it's one of the most fun things!"
If the occurrence of torture in connection with an activity ever meant she couldn't have fun with it anymore, she'd have about no affordances for fun left.
(She worries. But it's pretty clear what the human wants, so that is what will happen.)
"Wanna try it?"
She thought they were already going to.
If this is like on recess then it's ok to say she wants things.
(She is not as sure about the on recess. Flinch. Worry. But she doesn't think she can interrupt.)
"You swim in clothes? We don't much, but I could find a bathing suit or something if you wanted."
"When we did lessons we were in clothes. If we fell into water and needed swimming, we would have our clothes probably."
"Regular clothes? Doesn't sound fun."
Her face reflects that she has no idea what that has to do with anything. (Why would clothes affect fun??)
"Like, least comfortable thing to swim in. All draggy."
She's still confused!
"Swimming's supposed to be all floaty."