"Blai Artigas?" a woman in uniform asks him after the morning's prayer on the 9th.
"I'm Lieutenant Sauer. I'm a lay priest of Iomedae and I'm assigned to return with you this morning to Westcrown and advise you during the convention, along with anyone else who seems to need advice, though my understanding is that the intent is to fill the rest of the Church's seats with Reclamation men who'll know what they're doing. Have you had a chance to look at the incident report for the events of 3 Sarenith?"
"I recommend taking a look when you have a chance. It contains a lot of - our philosophy, and how we operate - as well as a great deal of information more directly applicable to your situation than catechism classes generally are. The recommendations for you, though, are very short. Take three hundred Absalom pounds, hire a staff, if they're being wildly useful to you write requesting more money to hire more of them. - it is not that money is not very badly needed for many things. It's that this convention is important to our allies and mistakes are much costlier than secretaries."
"The situation in Westcrown sounds very volatile. If you find no good uses of the money, so be it; but if there is something, you should have the resources to get it done. The only other recommendation from the Church was that, Worldwound mail being unreliable, important letters should be sent twice by different routes."
"Yes, that occurred to me during my interview, that I should have dropped off another copy at Taggun Hold. Though it's not actually obvious to me if anyone would have met me there had the letter arrived - it seems like the volatility was not obvious in advance, I didn't want personnel for avoiding riots because I didn't know they were in the offing, I just wanted to represent Iomedae's interests competently."
"It says, this recommendation likely would not have prevented the incident because a response with more reading material, advice, and additional people to correspond with was more likely than a response with additional personnel. And the reading material and advice would probably have been helpful to you but not to Person G, who can't read and seems not to have particularly sought advice."
"If you think the report's wrong in any particular, and it presumably is, you can write a supplemental that goes out with it, that says 'according to Blai Artigas if he'd been well-catechized he had decent odds of preventing this', or whatever else. I think the plan is for us to Teleport in the next half-hour, is there anything I should bring?"
"You're coming along? - I think there are still individual rooms open in the rectory but they have next to nothing in them, so if you prefer to avoid the women's barrack-style setup you will need your own sheets and suchlike and might rather bring them than shop in Westcrown. In addition to personal effects you'd bring on any trip. Other than sheets I haven't needed to make any unexpected purchases there, though."
"Yes, I am assigned to assist you and any other delegates who want advice from a lay priest. Hopefully with the new Reclamation delegates there will be many such sources of advice but they will have their own responsibilities as delegates. My understanding is that if I am on the staff of some delegate I can enter the hall, sit in on committees, and so on."
"That appears to be how it works for noble delegates; I don't think I've seen any religious delegates try it but it would be strikingly unRepublican of the archmage to have different rules de jure. ...I am planning to, as soon as I can find the fellow, buttonhole a particular pamphleteer and publish some personal disclosures that may attract volatility, though you're welcome to try to talk me out of it if you have reasons other than general concern that the pamphlet scene of Westcrown is cursed."
"It has many drawbacks. I find it - encouraging, in some ways, though. Someone told them they had freedom of the pen and they believed it was so. The trust could have been spent on something better, probably, but to learn that the trust was there to find even by accident is in some ways better than if everyone were being cautious with it."
"In Lastwall it is not illegal to write something probably heretical and definitely very stupid, presuming you aren't claiming to speak for the Church and it isn't - lies, or advocacy for some Evil power, or the sharing of military secrets. But you cannot make hundreds of copies of it and plaster it all over the city, you are expected to just...send it as a letter to someone. Who will politely set you straight, probably. Or to the Church, which definitely will."
"If you want to advertise that you are willing to receive and respond to drafts of writings like that I'm sure you'll have takers but Select Iustin hasn't remotely had the time to offer, let alone follow through. He can't show his face without ten people converging on him demanding his attention on their conversion or their confession or their incipient life plans. If it is possible to reach any meaningful number of people with accurate guidance that fits into a couple of pages and is as entertaining as epic poems of battles with manticores presumably were some centuries ago, it seems worth figuring out how."
"That's a good question. I have noticed many people have been able to identify objectives for themselves at it but they have the advantage of me in operating politically. For the time being my convention ambitions are restrained in scope to something like 'be oriented enough to the various proceedings that if there is a clear victory to be had I notice in time to develop an operational plan around it'. But I can't be on every committee so I don't know if, say, Judiciary is trying to reinstate Malediction or something obvious like that, and similarly don't know if there's anything with more moving parts to take steps about. For all the kerfuffle the convention itself has only spent two days in session."
In the morning she prays and then is handed a very long report she can't read and is told Blai and Ser Cansellarion will be leaving for Westcrown soon. She...doesn't exactly want to talk to Blai, but she said she would once she wasn't so tired, and she is less tired, so she ought to. She asks where to go and is directed down a hallway. It's quiet and orderly here. She feels rather on edge.
"Blai?"
"So I think the thing that is confusing me is - I imagined that people became priests of Asmodeus because they wanted to be powerful and hurt people, or because they wanted something they could get by being powerful and hurting people. And - I think you were saying that ....isn't why people become priests of Asmodeus?"
"I think in Infernal Cheliax people mostly became wizards because an existing wizard turned up at their school, read their mind, and determined they were intelligent enough to do so. There may technically have been points in the process after that where they could decide not to be a wizard but - not points marked and protected clearly enough that they often actually did that."
"I didn't know that. I don't know how many people knew that. Anyway, they didn't use a spell to find potential clerics, they went by teacher recommendations. They looked for people who were - already very religious - but those were a small minority and often not Wise enough - so they'd settle for students who were... serious, as a proxy for Wisdom, and well-behaved, as a proxy for Law. They didn't have to sort for Evil. It's usually possible to just make people worse."
"...people who aren't Evil don't go to Hell as far as I know unless they're Maledicted. With the caution that readings in life are not perfectly determinate of results at Judgment. But I didn't know myself not to be Evil. I may not have been non-Evil. There's not a way to find out from there. And if I wasn't Evil the suicide might have made me Evil. It usually is, or Infernal Cheliax would have gone to... any... lengths to prevent it."
That doesn't sound right but Valia doesn't know enough about anything to dispute it. "So your guess is that mostly people become priests of Asmodeus because - they got told to, and they were pretty sure if they killed themselves they'd go to Hell, and then you make them hurt a lot of people and that's just...enough to make Asmodeus choose them?"
"No, that's not enough to make Asmodeus choose them - well, occasionally it is, but no one in my class. But it's enough that - kept awake for days on end, fasting, praying ceaselessly, forming little factions based on who we thought would be the first to earn orisons and pay us back for our loyalty with a mouthful of water - enough that that closes the gap. After a few tries, usually."
"I imagine the exact motives - vary. In my case I don't remember ever thinking I was stuck exactly because that would have required - fantasizing about escape? I wasn't enjoying myself but I wasn't daydreaming about my circumstances being different. It seemed to me that - Asmodeus had some amount of ability and willingness to project power onto Golarion, and that was approximately fixed, and that it didn't matter whether or not some of it was me."
"...I mean, it obviously is not true that it's fixed, He withdrew a great deal of His projected power on Golarion including that of it which was me. I'm... not really sure, how to interpret anything that's happened since then in terms of - whether I was as interchangeable with the next best candidate as I thought."
"It... makes sense under this model for devoted servants of Iomedae to try to make sure that Iomedae has access to as many suitable candidates as She can make use of. Sometimes that will take the form of presenting oneself, if one happens to find that oneself is Wise and suited to clerical work compared to most people."
"I think.I don't think about Iomedae that way but maybe I'm the one who is doing it wrong.
Did you - like being a cleric of Asmodeus? I think I wouldn't even if I knew for sure I wasn't really sending anyone to Hell because Asmodeus would just use someone else for that."
"- it did not impinge on my ability to follow my instructions and perform my role, that I did not enjoy it. Asmodeus does not command that His clerics have fun once a month. But I was at one point told that punishing people was supposed to be fun so for a period of time I was running my Worldwound fort by making people play chess with me when they were drunk on duty and such."
"- we can ask Crina when she comes back but I think so just like how we're also not supposed to lie." Otherwise you will Fall Over. He can't say that out loud with his face. "- anyway, no, He dropped me. I wasn't - looking for openings, I wasn't thinking about things being a different way than they were, I wasn't checking whenever something happened whether that would be a good time to renounce Asmodeus any more than I was checking if it would be a good time to kill myself or a good time to - turn into a dragon, it wasn't a thing I thought about doing, ever."
"I got a lot of people killed, and so I've been thinking about - what I should have been thinking about, to not get lots of people killed, like how if I could read it wouldn't be as hard to get what was happening, and how if something really confusing happens like an archduke saying that actually it's important not to kick unrepentent Norgorber cultists off your committee then probably a lot of other things are very different than you thought they were and you should - stop doing things entirely and just flee into the hills and watch until you understand - the metaphorical hills -"
"That continues to make a lot less sense to me than the things you said about - not seeing why it mattered who worked for Asmodeus or whether there was a way not to. It seems like - when you do things, they have the consequences they have, and of course you will inevitably notice whether you want those consequences or don't want those consequences. And I am having trouble imagining what it would mean to - you weren't noticing that, but you think you could have noticed it if someone said that - some things were wrong even if you were commanded to do them?"
"I don't inevitably notice whether I want or don't want consequences at all. I have to check for that on purpose and usually only do it if I have some specific reason to do so. - sometimes I notice partial reactions without looking deliberately but I don't, automatically, add them up into a clear wanting or not wanting."
"Do you...think to yourself 'I am hungry', and then go to the kitchens to get food because then you'll have food and that will solve being hungry? - I'm not trying to be dismissive, I just - you're describing not having something that is how I thought all actions got taken."
"I think I'm probably unusual. The person who read my mind to check to see if I could be a wizard made an impolite remark about it and didn't say a word about anyone else in the room besides the ones she picked to be wizards. But I don't know what it's like to be anyone besides me."
"I think most people...want lots of things. And will risk lots of things the instant they realize that they weren't wrong, all along, to want things, that they were right and those things were worth fighting for. And then they are mostly opposed to Asmodeus. In my experience."
"Hmmm. I keep thinking that I was - wrong, obviously, in a really important way, but - not about the fact that people would rebel against Evil even in Westcrown, if they believed it was worth it, if they believed Iomedae was with them. The thing I was most importantly wrong about was - whether they'd spent a lot of time thinking about how you'd have to do it if you ever got the chance and so whether they'd do incredibly stupid things, and of course whether the targets were worth killing. But - not about people being willing to fight.
Most people even in Pezzack aren't me but they - wanted things. They wanted Asmodeus gone and everyone who had killed their families dead and they wanted to be free. That wasn't just me. It wouldn't have worked, if most people didn't want those things very badly themselves."
Valia would certainly have been considering how to kill the fort's priest of Asmodeus but she sure wouldn't have put those plans into action specifically in response to the news he had stopped being a priest of Asmodeus! She probably shouldn't say that. "I kind of resent the whole constitutional convention immensely but - I hope that you are able to do some useful things at it and it was worth leaving your fort."
" - Iomedae choosing you doesn't itself impose any obligations, though representing yourself as Hers does, but the obligations associated with representing yourself as Hers are all - not lying, not betraying a parley or offering a surrender falsely or breaking your word. The having fun at least once a month is just advice because everything else you do will go much much worse if you don't listen. It's more like Iomedae saying you shouldn't avoid thinking about what you're really hoping to accomplish or Iomedae saying that you should try to adopt policies that predictably get results you like. They're things Iomedae said because people who listen to them will be better at doing things."
"Are you imagining that when She's fixed the Evil afterlives She'll hang around to obsessively manage our lives? It is generally understood that She'll - reallocate, or maybe dissolve, pretty substantially, once we win, because She won't be a particularly useful shape for the work that remains. The habits of a people in a state of emergency aren't the habits of people when everything important will be all right forever.
She is managing our lives now because She would like us to do more with them, rather than less with them. The only penalty for not following the advice is that you will probably be worse at things."
"Oh, you don't have to - go to fancy parties or anything like that. Just - something that makes you feel - connected with the world. Like there are things worth fighting for. Like you can imagine Heaven. Or if you'd rather, like you can imagine the world where we've won and are all right."
"Oh. The thing where Good isn't only different from Evil because Heaven is different from Hell, where a free people in everything they do are better than a tyrannized people, the thing where if you don't have a wanting-things impediment it isn't hard to tell, which part of the battlefield you're on, because Good is good for people -"